History YMMV / ClassicalMythology

25th Feb '17 7:19:30 AM Anddrix
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* HellIsThatNoise: Pan loved to scare the shit out of lonely travelers by hiding nearby and letting out a bloodcurdling scream. Ever wonder where we get the word "panic?" Now you know. This, combined with his [[GagPenis enormous penis]] and [[MemeticMolester insatiable sex drive]], makes Pan a god you ''never'' want to mess with.
13th Feb '17 10:34:23 AM akanesarumara
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** Dionysus' early story reads like a TraumaCongaLine. His mother was burnt to death while still pregnant with him because his mother was tricked by Hera to ask Zeus to show himself in his true godly form, so Zeus had to sew fetus Dionysus into his thigh. After the baby was ready to be born, Zeus gave him to Hermes to take to the relatives of the dead mother, who dressed him up as a girl to hide his presence from Hera. They succeeded... for three years. Then Hera drove them insane, made them kill their own children and themselves, and the only reason why Dionysus survived was because Zeus turned him into a goat. The toddler gets shipped off to Mount Nysa, where he is raised by satyrs and nymphs and lives the good life, having friends, till one of them dies trying to get him a new strange plant, which Dionysus makes bear fruit in penance, creating the first grapes and then wine. He starts to get a following and then the first time he and his entourage offer the king of a city their help, said king kills several of the satyrs, Dionysus' SECOND stepmom, and almost Dionysus himself too, but he gets away into the sea where he stays with Thetys for a while to regroup.
30th Jan '17 11:58:58 AM shatterstar
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* OneTruePairing: To modern audiences anyway, Hades/Persephone is this. It helps that they had probably the most comparatively happy romance out of the Olympians and that Hades was probably the most loving and ''faithful'' husband among the Gods.

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To modern audiences anyway, Hades/Persephone is this. It helps that they had probably the most comparatively happy romance out of the Olympians and that Hades was probably the most loving and ''faithful'' husband among the Gods.
** Cupid/Psyche is also very popular to the point that it inspires a very popular fairytale: Literature/BeautyAndTheBeast.
27th Jan '17 4:26:33 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* ValuesDissonance:

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* ValuesDissonance: Well, what do you expect from stories that are over two millennia old?
27th Jan '17 6:58:19 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Every myth comes in at least two or three variants, and that is just the ones handed down to the present! Of note are:

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Every myth comes in at least two or three variants, variants DependingOnTheWriter, and that is just the ones handed down to the present! Of note are:


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** Website/{{Tumblr}} has a [[http://allieinarden.tumblr.com/post/121267473649/ive-noticed-this-revisionist-greek-myth-is-common theory]] regarding Aphrodite and Hephaestus.
1st Dec '16 1:53:34 PM Waffleface
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** Thanks to Romanticism, Prometheus has become a positive symbol of progress and determination.

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** Thanks to Romanticism, Prometheus has become a positive symbol of progress progress, ingenuity, determination, and determination.human resourcefulness. It helps that he's usually considered responsible for humanity's creation and is one of the kindest deities.
24th Nov '16 6:03:40 AM GlitteringFlowers
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** Either Persephone was tricked into eating pomegranate seeds so that she'd have to split her time, or she chose to eat them so she could stay with Hades and just claimed she was tricked in order to get MyBelovedSmother off her back. Some versions of the story indicate that Persephone was equally attracted to Hades [[PowerIsSexy for his power]] and knew what she was doing when she plucked the flower that brought on her abduction. And others state that the "abduction" was just the final part of a BatmanGambit from ''both'' Hades and Persephone so they would be able to get married.

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** Either Persephone was tricked into eating pomegranate seeds so that she'd have to split her time, or she chose to eat them so she could stay with Hades and just claimed she was tricked in order to get MyBelovedSmother off her back.back, or she ''never'' claimed to have been tricked and instead refused to eat them until Hades gave her the power she needed/wanted in their marriage. Some versions of the story indicate that Persephone was equally attracted to Hades [[PowerIsSexy for his power]] and knew what she was doing when she plucked the flower that brought on her abduction. And others Others state that the "abduction" was just the final part of a BatmanGambit from ''both'' Hades and Persephone so they would be able to get married.married without interference (since Zeus had meddled in their previous meetings).



** Hera in general. She's usually seen as an unbelievably cruel and vengeful goddess, and her role as the protector of women, marriage, and families is almost always forgotten. However, according to a Watsonian perspective, all of the tales of mythology are supposedly inspired by the Muses, who are illegitimate daughters of Zeus -- ''of course'' they're going to paint Hera in a negative light. And as the story of Jason and the Argonauts can attest, when Hera picks a mortal champion to favor, she helps them loyally and with all the power at her disposal.

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** Hera in general. She's usually seen as an unbelievably cruel and vengeful goddess, and her role as the protector of women, marriage, and families is almost always forgotten. However, according to a Watsonian perspective, all of the tales of mythology are supposedly inspired by the Muses, who are illegitimate daughters of Zeus -- ''of course'' they're going to paint Hera in a negative light. And as the story of Jason and the Argonauts can attest, when Hera picks a mortal champion to favor, she helps them loyally and with all the power at her disposal.disposal (as long as they honor her back, of course. When Jason ''didn't'', she was really fucking angry AND the other Gods backed ''her'' up).



** The big three were Hubris (See above), [[FlatEarthAtheist impiety]], and violation of [[SacredHospitality xenias]]. Hubris and xenias were often a part of impiety; people indulging in hubris often didn't limit themselves and [[BlasphemousBoast ridicule the gods]], [[BullyingADragon which tended to get negative attention]]. And xenias was the domain of Zeus himself, making repeated, willful violations of hospitality as good as direct affronts to the authority of the Lord of Olympus. Honoring xenias honored Zeus, trampling the tenants of hospitality was an insult to him.

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** The big three were Hubris (See above), [[FlatEarthAtheist impiety]], and violation of [[SacredHospitality xenias]]. Hubris and xenias were often a part of impiety; people indulging in hubris often didn't limit themselves and [[BlasphemousBoast ridicule the gods]], [[BullyingADragon which tended to get negative attention]]. And xenias was the domain of '''of Zeus himself, himself''', making repeated, willful violations of hospitality as good as direct affronts to the authority of the Lord of Olympus. Honoring xenias honored Zeus, trampling the tenants of hospitality was an insult to him.



** Hades' kidnapping of Persephone, as mentioned earlier, [[http://herskyofdiamonds.tumblr.com/post/77535721358/lillian-raven-hungrylikethewolfie was considered a Greek wedding.]] By today's standards, it would be kidnapping, but an appropriate modern interpretation of the events would be [[http://kata-chthonia.com/post/69903384941/yes-im-officially-creeping-on-you-i-just Hades and Persephone]] falling in love, reaching an agreement, eloping behind Demeter's back to dodge her ParentalMarriageVeto and THEN dealing with the aftermath, and not to mention they're [[HappilyMarried most stable couple in the Pantheon]]. And that's not even getting into whether one prefers Persephone as the sweet little innocent who gets kidnapped and perpetually victimised, or the [[{{MyBelovedSmother}} smothered]] teen who intentionally seduced Hades to get free and snag some agency for herself, [[TakeAThirdOption (Or maybe both)]].

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** Hades' kidnapping of Persephone, as mentioned earlier, [[http://herskyofdiamonds.tumblr.com/post/77535721358/lillian-raven-hungrylikethewolfie was considered a Greek wedding.]] By today's standards, it would be kidnapping, but an appropriate modern interpretation of the events would be [[http://kata-chthonia.com/post/69903384941/yes-im-officially-creeping-on-you-i-just Hades and Persephone]] falling in love, reaching an agreement, eloping behind Demeter's back to dodge her ParentalMarriageVeto ''and'' Zeus' meddling and THEN dealing with the aftermath, and not to mention they're [[HappilyMarried most stable couple in the Pantheon]]. And that's not even getting into whether one prefers Persephone as the sweet little innocent who gets kidnapped and perpetually victimised, or the [[{{MyBelovedSmother}} smothered]] teen who intentionally seduced Hades to get free and snag some agency for herself, [[TakeAThirdOption (Or maybe both)]].



** Cassandra. There's literally nothing that ever seems to go right for this girl, making her perhaps one of the biggest woobies in Classical Mythology on a whole. First, either [[JerkassGods Apollo tries to rape her]], she commits the "sin" of blowing his affections off, ''or'' she leaves her work as one of the priestesses of his temple in Troy without counting on how [[BerserkButton that would piss the Hell outta him]]. Then, he curses her so that none of her visions of the future are ever believed. Then the Trojan War happens and her brother dies. Then she [[SanitySlippage starts to lose it]]. Then she tries to hide in Athena's temple only to be kidnapped and [[RapeAsDrama violently raped]] by Ajax the Lesser, while her entire family is either killed or enslaved. Then, she ends up as King Agamemnon's concubine. And finally, Agamemnon's cheating wife Clytemnestra ''kills'' her. And if the ''Agamemnon'' play is to be believed, she ''clearly'' knew shit was about to go down [[DespairEventHorizon but was resigned already to her and Agamemnon's bloody fate]], not attempting to run away even when the local elders expressed some sympathy for her.

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** Cassandra. There's literally nothing that ever seems to go right for this girl, making her perhaps one of the biggest woobies in Classical Mythology on a whole. First, First: either [[JerkassGods Apollo tries to rape her]], she commits the "sin" of blowing his affections off, she [[YourCheatingHeart cheats on him]], ''or'' she leaves her work as one of the priestesses a priestess of his temple in Troy without counting on how [[BerserkButton that would piss the Hell outta him]]. Then, he curses her so that none of her visions of the future are ever believed. Then the Trojan War happens and her brother Hector dies. Then she [[SanitySlippage starts to lose it]]. Then she tries to hide in Athena's temple only to be kidnapped and [[RapeAsDrama violently raped]] by Ajax the Lesser, while her entire family is either killed or enslaved. Then, she ends up as King Agamemnon's concubine. And finally, Agamemnon's cheating wife Clytemnestra ''kills'' her. And if the ''Agamemnon'' play is to be believed, she ''clearly'' knew shit was about to go down [[DespairEventHorizon but was resigned already to her and Agamemnon's bloody fate]], not attempting to run away even when the local elders expressed some sympathy for her.
15th Nov '16 2:01:10 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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** One of Ares' [[http://www.theoi.com/Olympios/Ares.html#Hymns Hymns]] described him as kind of a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Proud Warrior Guy]] while the other described him as more of the [[BloodKnight Blood Knight]] that people are more familiar with.

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** One of Ares' [[WarGod Ares]]' [[http://www.theoi.com/Olympios/Ares.html#Hymns Hymns]] described him as kind of a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Proud Warrior Guy]] while the other described him as more of the [[BloodKnight Blood Knight]] that people are more familiar with.
4th Nov '16 2:59:21 PM Xythos
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** Thanks to Romanticism, Prometheus has become a positive symbol of progress and determination.
29th Oct '16 8:57:28 PM cdenton
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*** This is an issue that appears frequently, since the ancient Greeks didn't really differentiate between what we'd consider rape or abduction and the seduction of a woman by a man other than her husband. Hence, for example, why it's often unclear if Helen of Troy consented to leaving with Paris or not.
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