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* {{HSQ}}: The FinalBattle in Chapters 42 and 43, what with [[spoiler:Illya and Sakura taking advantage of Angra Mainyu weakening the barriers between dimensions to summon ''the entire Throne of Heroes'' in order to fight Angra Mainyu]].
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* ShockingMoments: The FinalBattle in Chapters 42 and 43, what with [[spoiler:Illya and Sakura taking advantage of Angra Mainyu weakening the barriers between dimensions to summon ''the entire Throne of Heroes'' in order to fight Angra Mainyu]].
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** Other readers feel this way about [[spoiler:Saber Alter]] after she regains her sanity, feeling that she is essentially a complete OC that is nothing like her previous incarnations and don't feel like becoming a BloodKnight makes much sense as a resolution to her character arc. The implication that she is somehow "stronger" as a result is even less well-received.
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** Other readers feel this way about [[spoiler:Saber Alter]] after she regains her sanity, feeling that she is essentially a complete OC that is nothing like her previous incarnations and don't feel like her becoming a BloodKnight makes much sense as a resolution to her character arc. The implication that she is somehow "stronger" as a result is even less well-received.
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* CrossesTheLineTwice[=/=]DudeNotFunny: Chapter 25, specifically the scene where Shirou, being MistakenForPedophile (with [[TheGadfly Illya]] largely and unashamedly responsible for it), is PlayedForLaughs; this is either hilariously over-the-top and fitting of the BreatherEpisode, or extremely distasteful HumourDissonance which callously pokes fun at a serious problem in reality (and Shirou being trolled by Illya is taken way too far, even for her)… Granted, Shirou's CharacterDevelopment after this point makes him more able to match Ilya's trolling, but still.
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''Fate/Stay Night Fanfic'''
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* ShipperOnDeck: [[spoiler:Irisviel]] really, really wants Shirou to take care of [[spoiler:Illya]]. Make of this what you will.
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* CrossesTheLineTwice[=/=]DudeNotFunny: Chapter 25, specifically the scene where Shirou, being MistakenForPedophile (with [[TheGadfly Illya]] largely and unashamedly responsible for it), is PlayedForLaughs; this is either hilariously over-the-top and fitting of the BreatherEpisode, or extremely distasteful HumourDissonance which callously pokes fun at a serious problem in reality (and Shirou being trolled by Illya is taken way too far, even for her).
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* TookALevelInBadass: Gilgamesh becomes even more badass than usual when he is pushed to the breaking point of his outrage and decides to deal judgment to the rest of the participants[[spoiler:, culminating in him obliterating (what's left of) Avenger with a full powered blast from Ea]].
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* ArcFatigue: Many feel that the story should have ended once Shirou defeated [[spoiler:Dark Sakura]], and that the subsequent [[spoiler:birth of Angra Mainyu]] as well as the following battle culminating in [[spoiler:the summoning of all Servants across the {{Franchise/Nasuverse}}]] stretched the story to the point it lost its coherence, notably by adding unecessary stuff ''that weren't even planned'' from the recent FateGrandOrder (for perspective, FateGrandOrder came out ''five years'' after the fanfic started). Even the [[WordOfGod author]] admitted that the story length got out of hands and it tired them to finish it.
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* ArcFatigue: Many feel that the story should have ended once Shirou defeated [[spoiler:Dark Sakura]], and that the subsequent [[spoiler:birth of Angra Mainyu]] as well as the following battle culminating in [[spoiler:the summoning of all Servants across the {{Franchise/Nasuverse}}]] stretched the story to the point it lost its coherence, notably by adding unecessary stuff ''that weren't even planned'' from the recent FateGrandOrder ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' (for perspective, FateGrandOrder ''Fate/Grand Order'' came out ''five years'' after the fanfic started). Even the [[WordOfGod author]] admitted that the story length got out of hands and it tired them to finish it.
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* ArcFatigue: Many feel that the story should have ended once Shirou defeated [[spoiler:Dark Sakura]], and that the subsequent [[spoiler:birth of Angra Mainyu]] as well as the following battle culminating in [[spoiler:the summoning of all Servants across the {{Franchise/Nasuverse}}]] stretched the story to the point it lost its coherence, notably by adding unecessary stuff ''that weren't even planned'' from the recent FateGrandOrder (for perspective, FateGrandOrder came out ''five years'' after the fanfic started). Even the [[WordOfGod author]] admitted that the story length got out of hands and it tired them to finish it.
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** Other readers feel this way about [[spoiler:Saber Alter]] after she regains her sanity, feeling that she is essentially a complete OC that is nothing like her previous incarnations and don't feel like becoming a BloodKnight makes much sense as a resolution to her character arc. The implication that she is somehow "stronger" as a result is even less well-received.
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* CrossesTheLineTwice[=/=]DudeNotFunny: Chapter 25, specifically the scene where Shirou, being MistakenForPedophile (with [[TheGadfly Ilya]] largely and unashamedly responsible for it), is PlayedForLaughs; this is either hilariously over-the-top and fitting of the BreatherEpisode, or extremely distasteful HumourDissonance which callously pokes fun at a serious problem in reality (and Shirou being trolled by Ilya is taken way too far, even for her).
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* CrossesTheLineTwice[=/=]DudeNotFunny: Chapter 25, specifically the scene where Shirou, being MistakenForPedophile (with [[TheGadfly Ilya]] Illya]] largely and unashamedly responsible for it), is PlayedForLaughs; this is either hilariously over-the-top and fitting of the BreatherEpisode, or extremely distasteful HumourDissonance which callously pokes fun at a serious problem in reality (and Shirou being trolled by Ilya Illya is taken way too far, even for her).
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* {{HSQ}}: The FinalBattle in Chapters 42 and 43, what with [[spoiler:Ilya and Sakura taking advantage of Angra Mainyu weakening the barriers between dimensions to summon ''the entire Throne of Heroes'' in order to fight Angra Mainyu]].
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* {{HSQ}}: The FinalBattle in Chapters 42 and 43, what with [[spoiler:Ilya [[spoiler:Illya and Sakura taking advantage of Angra Mainyu weakening the barriers between dimensions to summon ''the entire Throne of Heroes'' in order to fight Angra Mainyu]].
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* ShipperOnDeck: [[spoiler:Irisviel]] really, really wants Shirou to take care of [[spoiler:Ilya]]. Make of this what you will.
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* ShipperOnDeck: [[spoiler:Irisviel]] really, really wants Shirou to take care of [[spoiler:Ilya]].[[spoiler:Illya]]. Make of this what you will.
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* TheWoobie: Both Ilya Illya and Sakura. The former seems to be becoming an IronWoobie here, as well. [[spoiler: The later seems to be reaching WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds like in canon.]]
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* TookALevelInBadass: Gilgamesh becomes even more badass than usual when he is pushed to the breaking point of his outrage and decides to deal judgment to the rest of the participants.
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* TookALevelInBadass: Gilgamesh becomes even more badass than usual when he is pushed to the breaking point of his outrage and decides to deal judgment to the rest of the participants.participants[[spoiler:, culminating in him obliterating (what's left of) Avenger with a full powered blast from Ea]].
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* {{HSQ}}: The FinalBattle in Chapters 42 and 43.
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* {{HSQ}}: The FinalBattle in Chapters 42 and 43.43, what with [[spoiler:Ilya and Sakura taking advantage of Angra Mainyu weakening the barriers between dimensions to summon ''the entire Throne of Heroes'' in order to fight Angra Mainyu]].
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* TheScrappy:[[spoiler: Caster Alter]], to readers who believe she has overstayed her welcome and survived situations she should not have too many times. Most such readers felt the character should have been an ArcVillain (and assumed as much) instead of lasting until the story's climax - which veers dangerously close to Villain Sue territory, if not necessarily crossing right into it.
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* TheScrappy:[[spoiler: Caster TheScrappy: [[spoiler:Caster Alter]], to readers who believe she has overstayed her welcome and survived situations she should not have too many times. Most such readers felt the character should have been an ArcVillain (and assumed as much) instead of lasting until the story's climax - which veers dangerously close to Villain Sue territory, if not necessarily crossing right into it.
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* CompleteMonster: Zouken Matou, as per canon. Here, though, we witness his [[spoiler:assimilation of another person's essence]] without the slightest trace of remorse. To top that off, Saber and Shirou are both ''highly'' unsettled by him, while Kirei has an internal monologue reflecting how much the ancient parasite disgusts him. Even True Assassin - while not actually put off by him - notes the {{hypocri|te}}sy and [[ItsAllAboutMe selfish]] [[NeverMyFault refusal to admit fault]] in Zouken when the old bastard complains about his [[AgeWithoutYouth situation]].
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* CompleteMonster: Zouken Matou, as per canon. Here, though, we witness his [[spoiler:assimilation of another person's essence]] without the slightest trace of remorse. To top that off, Saber and Shirou are both ''highly'' unsettled by him, while Kirei has an internal monologue reflecting how much the ancient parasite disgusts him. Even True Assassin - while not actually put off by him - notes the [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocrisy]] and [[ItsAllAboutMe selfish]] [[NeverMyFault refusal to admit fault]] in Zouken when the old bastard complains about his [[AgeWithoutYouth situation]].
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* CompleteMonster: Zouken Matou, as per canon. Here, though, we witness his [[spoiler:assimilation of another person's essence]] without the slightest trace of remorse. To top that off, Saber and Shirou are both ''highly'' unsettled by him, while Kirei has an internal monologue reflecting how much the ancient parasite disgusts him. Even True Assassin - while not actually put off by him - notes the [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocrisy]] {{hypocri|te}}sy and [[ItsAllAboutMe selfish]] [[NeverMyFault refusal to admit fault]] in Zouken when the old bastard complains about his [[AgeWithoutYouth situation]].
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* LesYay: [[spoiler:Caster Alter and Sakura]]'s... [[UnusualEuphemism mana]] [[MemeticMutation transfer]] [[RunningGag ritual.]]
* NightmareFuel: Chapter 15 contains a scene where we see Matou Zouken [[spoiler:assimilate an innocent's essence as he performs a GrandTheftMe upon her body.]] Reading it is both horrifically creepy and heartbreaking.
* TheScrappy:[[spoiler: Caster Alter]], to readers who believe she has overstayed her welcome and survived situations she should not have too many times. Most such readers felt the character should have been an ArcVillain (and assumed as much) instead of lasting until the story's climax - which veers dangerously close to VillainSue territory, if not necessarily crossing right into it.
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* TheScrappy:[[spoiler: Caster Alter]], to readers who believe she has overstayed her welcome and survived situations she should not have too many times. Most such readers felt the character should have been an ArcVillain (and assumed as much) instead of lasting until the story's climax - which veers dangerously close to VillainSue territory, if not necessarily crossing right into it.
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* LesYay: [[HoYay Les Yay]]: [[spoiler:Caster Alter and Sakura]]'s... [[UnusualEuphemism mana]] [[MemeticMutation transfer]] [[RunningGag ritual.]]
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* NightmareFuel: Chapter 15 contains a scene where we see Matou Zouken [[spoiler:assimilate an innocent's essence as he performs a GrandTheftMe upon herbody.]] body]]. Reading it is both horrifically creepy and heartbreaking.
* TheScrappy:[[spoiler: Caster Alter]], to readers who believe she has overstayed her welcome and survived situations she should not have too many times. Most such readers felt the character should have been an ArcVillain (and assumed as much) instead of lasting until the story's climax - which veers dangerously close toVillainSue Villain Sue territory, if not necessarily crossing right into it.
* NightmareFuel: Chapter 15 contains a scene where we see Matou Zouken [[spoiler:assimilate an innocent's essence as he performs a GrandTheftMe upon her
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* TheWoobie: Both Ilya and Sakura. The former seems to be becoming an IronWoobie here, as well.
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* TheWoobie: Both Ilya and Sakura. The former seems to be becoming an IronWoobie here, as well. [[spoiler: The later seems to be reaching WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds like in canon.]]
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** [[spoiler: TakeThatScrappy/AlasPoorScrappy: Making her rather horrible death one of these, depending on personal taste.]]
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** [[spoiler: TakeThatScrappy/AlasPoorScrappy: TakeThatScrappy / AlasPoorScrappy: Making her rather horrible death one of these, depending on personal taste.]]
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* TearJerker: In Chapter 14, [[spoiler:Shirou is visited by the disembodied spirit of Irisviel, who softly asks him to do his best to save Ilya.]]
** [[spoiler:Berserker's death]] in Chapter 22, particularly his regret that [[spoiler:he can't protect Ilya any longer, and as he passes she - despite being unconscious - seems to feel it, and starts to cry in her sleep.]]
** Rin going through [[spoiler: the Matou household]] in Chapter 29. [[spoiler: Especially the part where she finds ''evidence'' of what Shinji did to Sakura.]]
** [[spoiler:Berserker's death]] in Chapter 22, particularly his regret that [[spoiler:he can't protect Ilya any longer, and as he passes she - despite being unconscious - seems to feel it, and starts to cry in her sleep.]]
** Rin going through [[spoiler: the Matou household]] in Chapter 29. [[spoiler: Especially the part where she finds ''evidence'' of what Shinji did to Sakura.]]
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* CrossesTheLineTwice[=/=]DudeNotFunny: Chapter 25, specifically the scene where Shirou, being MistakenForPedophile (with [[TheGadfly Ilya]] largely and unashamedly responsible for it), is PlayedForLaughs; this is either hilariously over-the-top and fitting of the BreatherEpisode, or extremely distasteful ComedicDissonance which callously pokes fun at a serious problem in reality (and Shirou being trolled by Ilya is taken way too far, even for her).
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* CrossesTheLineTwice[=/=]DudeNotFunny: Chapter 25, specifically the scene where Shirou, being MistakenForPedophile (with [[TheGadfly Ilya]] largely and unashamedly responsible for it), is PlayedForLaughs; this is either hilariously over-the-top and fitting of the BreatherEpisode, or extremely distasteful ComedicDissonance HumourDissonance which callously pokes fun at a serious problem in reality (and Shirou being trolled by Ilya is taken way too far, even for her).
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* CrossesTheLineTwice[=/=]DudeNotFunny: Chapter 25, specifically the scene where Shirou, being MistakenForPedophile (with [[TheGadfly Ilya]] largely and unashamedly responsible for it), is PlayedForLaughs; this is either hilariously over-the-top and fitting of the BreatherEpisode, or extremely distasteful ComedyDissonance ComedicDissonance which callously pokes fun at a serious problem in the real world.reality (and Shirou being trolled by Ilya is taken way too far, even for her).
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* TheScrappy: TheScrappy:[[spoiler: Caster Alter Alter]], to some, readers who believe she has overstayed her welcome and survived situations she should not have.have too many times. Most such readers felt the character should have been an ArcVillain (and assumed as much) instead of lasting until the story's climax - which veers dangerously close to VillainSue territory, if not necessarily crossing right into it.
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** Rin going through [[spoiler: the Matou household]] in Chapter 29. [[spoiler: Especially the part where she finds ''evidence'' of what Shinji did to Sakura.]]
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* ShipperOnDeck: [[spoiler: Irisviel [[spoiler:Irisviel]] really, really wants Shirou to take care of Ilya.[[spoiler:Ilya]]. Make of this what you will.]]
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* TheScrappy: Caster Alter to some, who believe she has overstayed her welcome and survived situations she should not have.
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* CatharsisFactor: [[WordOfGod Andy Moczo]] ''detests'' Shinji Matou (a sentiment many fans of FSN share), so any time he appears his efforts to do anything product will end in him being a ButtMonkey - but because he ''does'' go too far each and every time, his subsequent clobbering is complete LaserGuidedKarma and he avoids being an IneffectualSympatheticVillain.
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* CatharsisFactor: [[WordOfGod Andy Moczo]] ''detests'' Shinji Matou (a sentiment many fans of FSN share), so any time he appears his efforts to do anything product productive will end in him being a ButtMonkey - but because he ''does'' go too far each and every time, his subsequent clobbering is complete LaserGuidedKarma and he avoids being an IneffectualSympatheticVillain.
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*TheScrappy: Caster Alter to some, who believe she has overstayed her welcome and survived situations she should not have.