History YMMV / CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow2

24th Sep '16 12:55:53 PM Aliya
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* EightPointEight: Castlevania Lords of Shadow 2 got mixed reviews by critics, but one of the most infamous was Edge's review that score of 4.0 / 10. And the worst part is that they score Rambo: The Video Game with a 5.0/10.

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* EightPointEight: Castlevania Lords ''Lords of Shadow 2 2'' got mixed reviews by from critics, but one of the most infamous was Edge's review that that'd given it the score of 4.0 / 10. And the worst part is that they score Rambo: The Video Game with a 5.0/10.[[labelnote:Explanation]] The latter being a three-hour low-budget rail shooter with poor optimization, non-existent storyline and tons of bugs. To put it in [[WebVideo/TheAngryJoeShow layman's terms]], "take a serious look at all the ratings outlets give this game. If it's a fraction higher than three, then they are babbling morons! It's not an average game, it's a piece of shit!"[[/labelnote]]
* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Zobek. Is he still the same self-absorbed BigBadWannabe or did his defeat teach him a lesson or two on humility? Is he genuine in his sympathy for Gabriel, or is it just an act? What was his true motive when he shows up in the end to fight Dracula? Did he understand he was outplayed and chose to go out in a blaze of glory or was it a last-ditch attempt to spite his old friend?


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* EsotericHappyEnding: There are some less-than-superb implications beneath the ending. On one hand, all of the central villains have been destroyed, thus ridding the world of evil and allowing mankind to rebuild. Yet, the EvilPowerVacuum and BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil motifs, motifs that were enforced since the first game, still remain. Bearing all that in mind plus the [[CrapsackWorld overall setting]] and the [[ShootTheShaggyDog storyline]] of the previous ''Lords of Shadow'' games it's not hard to imagine Dracula experiencing a HeelFaceDoorSlam which would negate ''all'' of his CharacterDevelopment just so he could re-fill that villainous niche.


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* RonTheDeathEater: The Brotherhood of Light the Light Grey to Dracula's Dark Grey and Satan's Black gets the short end of the stick. Amidst so many fans, the Brotherhood's nothing more but a throng of [[ManipulativeBastard scheming zealots]] and indoctrinated henchmen, who abuse the BecauseDestinySaysSo trope to justify their morally ambiguous actions.
17th Aug '16 4:19:24 PM Draghinazzo
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* ScrappyMechanic: If you try to avoid encounters with enemies by finding a ledge to parkour to, the enemies (every enemy in the game) has some form of ranged attack that's super fast, incredibly accurate, and always knocks you down. This mechanic stays even well past the point in the game where the only reason you'd be going through there in the first place is backtracking for collectables, when you can easily stomp flat every enemy that tries.

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you try to avoid encounters with enemies by finding a ledge to parkour to, the enemies (every enemy in the game) has some form of ranged attack that's super fast, incredibly accurate, and always knocks you down. This mechanic stays even well past the point in the game where the only reason you'd be going through there in the first place is backtracking for collectables, when you can easily stomp flat every enemy that tries.tries.
** The stealth gameplay is near unanimously panned for being out of place, frustrating and just not fun or what people really want to do in a Castlevania game.
22nd Jun '16 6:53:55 PM eagle108
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** Dracula's use of the memetic "[[MythologyGag What is a man...]] [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaSymphonyOfTheNight but a miserable pile of secrets!]]" during the tutorial may seem like PanderingToTheBase without context at first glance. However, when you look at Roland and the army of Brotherhood knights from his perspective, Dracula could be musing at how the upper echelons of the Brotherhood had most likely created a cover story for [[spoiler:Gabriel's "death"]] after the defeat of the Lords of Shadows. Even if Roland is a high-ranking commander, he might not had been privy to the truth on Dracula [[spoiler: still being {{God}}'s [[TheChosenOne chosen one]], given his [[OhCrap reaction]] when Dracula grabs the cross with no ill-effect, or the prophecy that Gabriel becomes Dracula]]. Given that official chronology places the tutorial stage in the year AD 1547, 500 years after the first game, and the low life-expectancy back then, the Brotherhood would've had ample time to create and hide their new "pile of secrets" - they ''are'' mortal men.

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** Dracula's use of the memetic "[[MythologyGag What is a man...]] [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaSymphonyOfTheNight but a miserable pile of secrets!]]" during the tutorial may seem like PanderingToTheBase without context at first glance. However, when you look at Roland and the army of Brotherhood knights from his perspective, Dracula could be musing at how the upper echelons of the Brotherhood had most likely created a cover story for [[spoiler:Gabriel's "death"]] after the defeat of the Lords of Shadows.Shadow ([[spoiler:Trevor being the exception in ''[=MoF=]'']]). Even if Roland is a high-ranking commander, he might not had been privy to the truth on Dracula [[spoiler: still being {{God}}'s [[TheChosenOne chosen one]], given his [[OhCrap reaction]] when Dracula grabs the cross with no ill-effect, or the prophecy that Gabriel becomes Dracula]]. Given that official chronology places the tutorial stage in the year AD 1547, 500 years after the first game, and the low life-expectancy back then, the Brotherhood would've had ample time to create and hide their new "pile of secrets" - they ''are'' mortal men.
21st Jun '16 9:34:26 PM eagle108
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** Dracula's use of the memetic "[[MythologyGag What is a man...]] [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaSymphonyOfTheNight but a miserable pile of secrets!]]" during the tutorial may seem like PanderingToTheBase without context at first glance. However, when you look at Roland and the army of Brotherhood knights from his perspective, Dracula could be musing at how the upper echelons of the Brotherhood had most likely created a cover story for [[spoiler:Gabriel's "death"]] after the defeat of the Lords of Shadows. Even if Roland is a high-ranking commander, he might not had been privy to the truth on Dracula [[spoiler: still being {{God}}'s [[TheChosenOne chosen one]], given his [[OhCrap reaction]] when Dracula grabs the cross with no ill-effect, or the prophecy that Gabriel becomes Dracula]]. Given that official chronology places the tutorial stage in the year AD 1102, about 55 years after the first game (56, if starting with Gabriel's prologue from ''[=MoF=]'', which happens in 1046), and the low life-expectancy back then, the Brotherhood would've had ample time to create and hide their new "pile of secrets" - they ''are'' mortal men.

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** Dracula's use of the memetic "[[MythologyGag What is a man...]] [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaSymphonyOfTheNight but a miserable pile of secrets!]]" during the tutorial may seem like PanderingToTheBase without context at first glance. However, when you look at Roland and the army of Brotherhood knights from his perspective, Dracula could be musing at how the upper echelons of the Brotherhood had most likely created a cover story for [[spoiler:Gabriel's "death"]] after the defeat of the Lords of Shadows. Even if Roland is a high-ranking commander, he might not had been privy to the truth on Dracula [[spoiler: still being {{God}}'s [[TheChosenOne chosen one]], given his [[OhCrap reaction]] when Dracula grabs the cross with no ill-effect, or the prophecy that Gabriel becomes Dracula]]. Given that official chronology places the tutorial stage in the year AD 1102, about 55 1547, 500 years after the first game (56, if starting with Gabriel's prologue from ''[=MoF=]'', which happens in 1046), game, and the low life-expectancy back then, the Brotherhood would've had ample time to create and hide their new "pile of secrets" - they ''are'' mortal men.
21st Jun '16 9:14:20 PM eagle108
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** Dracula's use of the memetic "[[MythologyGag What is a man... but a miserable pile of secrets!]]" during the tutorial may seem like PanderingToTheBase without context at first glance. However, when you look at Roland and the army of Brotherhood knights from his perspective, Dracula could be musing at how the upper echelons of the Brotherhood had most likely created a cover story for [[spoiler:Gabriel's "death"]] after the defeat of the Lords of Shadows. Even if Roland is a high-ranking commander, he might not had been privy to the truth on Dracula [[spoiler: still being {{God}}'s [[TheChosenOne chosen one]], given his [[OhCrap reaction]] when Dracula grabs the cross with no ill-effect, or the prophecy that Gabriel becomes Dracula]]. Given that official chronology places the tutorial stage in the year 1102 AD, about 55 years after the first game (56, if starting with Gabriel's prologue from ''[=MoF=]'', which happens in 1046), and the low life-expectancy back then, the Brotherhood would've had ample time to create and hide their new "pile of secrets" - they ''are'' mortal men.

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** Dracula's use of the memetic "[[MythologyGag What is a man... ]] [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaSymphonyOfTheNight but a miserable pile of secrets!]]" during the tutorial may seem like PanderingToTheBase without context at first glance. However, when you look at Roland and the army of Brotherhood knights from his perspective, Dracula could be musing at how the upper echelons of the Brotherhood had most likely created a cover story for [[spoiler:Gabriel's "death"]] after the defeat of the Lords of Shadows. Even if Roland is a high-ranking commander, he might not had been privy to the truth on Dracula [[spoiler: still being {{God}}'s [[TheChosenOne chosen one]], given his [[OhCrap reaction]] when Dracula grabs the cross with no ill-effect, or the prophecy that Gabriel becomes Dracula]]. Given that official chronology places the tutorial stage in the year 1102 AD, AD 1102, about 55 years after the first game (56, if starting with Gabriel's prologue from ''[=MoF=]'', which happens in 1046), and the low life-expectancy back then, the Brotherhood would've had ample time to create and hide their new "pile of secrets" - they ''are'' mortal men.
21st Jun '16 12:08:19 AM eagle108
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** Dracula's use of the memetic "[[MythologyGag What is a man... but a miserable pile of secrets!]]" during the tutorial may seem like PanderingToTheBase without context at first glance. However, when you look at Roland and the army of Brotherhood knights from his perspective, Dracula could be musing at how the upper echelons of the Brotherhood had most likely created a cover story for [[spoiler:Gabriel's "death"]] after the defeat of the Lords of Shadows. Even if Roland is a high-ranking commander, he might not had been privy to the truth on Dracula [[spoiler: still being {{God}}'s [[TheChosenOne chosen one]], given his [[OhCrap reaction]] when Dracula grabs the cross no ill-effect, or the prophecy that Gabriel becomes Dracula]]. Given that official chronology places the tutorial stage in the year 1102 AD, about 55 years after the first game, and the low life-expectancy back then, the Brotherhood would've had ample time to create and hide their new "pile of secrets" - they ''are'' mortal men.

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** Dracula's use of the memetic "[[MythologyGag What is a man... but a miserable pile of secrets!]]" during the tutorial may seem like PanderingToTheBase without context at first glance. However, when you look at Roland and the army of Brotherhood knights from his perspective, Dracula could be musing at how the upper echelons of the Brotherhood had most likely created a cover story for [[spoiler:Gabriel's "death"]] after the defeat of the Lords of Shadows. Even if Roland is a high-ranking commander, he might not had been privy to the truth on Dracula [[spoiler: still being {{God}}'s [[TheChosenOne chosen one]], given his [[OhCrap reaction]] when Dracula grabs the cross with no ill-effect, or the prophecy that Gabriel becomes Dracula]]. Given that official chronology places the tutorial stage in the year 1102 AD, about 55 years after the first game, game (56, if starting with Gabriel's prologue from ''[=MoF=]'', which happens in 1046), and the low life-expectancy back then, the Brotherhood would've had ample time to create and hide their new "pile of secrets" - they ''are'' mortal men.
20th Jun '16 11:48:49 PM eagle108
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** Dracula's use of the memetic "[[MythologyGag What is a man... but a miserable pile of secrets!]]" during the tutorial may seem like PanderingToTheBase without context at first glance. However, when you look at Roland and the army of Brotherhood knights from his perspective, Dracula could be musing at how the upper echelons of the Brotherhood had most likely created a cover story for [[spoiler:Gabriel's "death"]] after the defeat of the Lords of Shadows. Even if Roland is a high-ranking commander, he might not had been privy to the truth on Dracula [[spoiler: still being {{God}}'s [[TheChosenOne chosen one]], given his [[OhCrap reaction]] when Dracula grabs the cross no ill-effect, or the prophecy that Gabriel becomes Dracula]]. Given that official chronology places the tutorial stage in the year 1102 AD, about 55 years after the first game, and the low life-expectancy back then, the Brotherhood would've had ample time to create and hide their new "pile of secrets" - they ''are'' mortal men.
20th Jun '16 7:34:55 PM eagle108
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* CultClassic: Didn't do really well in sales, and got mixed reviews by critics, but got very positive user reviews, spawned a small, yet devoted fanbase, and is generally considered an improvement over the first game by Castlevania fans. Gabriel, and his portrayal of Dracula, as a character, is also very endearing to people who played the game.



* CultClassic: Didn't do really well in sales, and got mixed reviews by critics, but got very positive user reviews, spawned a small, yet devoted fanbase, and is generally considered an improvement over the first game by Castlevania fans. Gabriel, and his portrayal of Dracula, as a character, is also very endearing to people who played the game.



** And Dracula himself has a fair share of fangirls.

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** And Dracula himself [[TallDarkAndHandsome himself]] has a fair share of fangirls.



* MagnificentBastard: This incarnation of Alucard. [[spoiler: He manipulated the events of the entire second game, and succeeded in all of his plans.]]



* NarmCharm / SoBadItsGood: Well, they're certainly upholding this series tradition. See above.

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* NarmCharm / SoBadItsGood: NarmCharm[=/=]SoBadItsGood: Well, they're certainly upholding this series tradition. See above.



* SignatureScene: [[spoiler: The reunion between [[MyGreatestSecondChance Alucard]] and [[GoodParents Dracula]] is fondly remembered by being a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming and being a great case of ILoveYouVampireSon]]



* SignatureScene: [[spoiler: The reunion between [[MyGreatestSecondChance Alucard]] and [[GoodParents Dracula]] is fondly remembered by being a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming and being a great case of ILoveYouVampireSon]].



* MagnificentBastard: This incarnation of Alucard. [[spoiler: He manipulated the events of the entire second game, and succeeded in all of his plans.]]
19th Jun '16 6:53:56 PM eagle108
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* EarlyInstallmentCharacterDesignDifference: Marie's looks. Granted, it's most likely due to possibly having new artists and improved techniques, but compare Marie as she appears in ''[[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/los1_marie.png LoS]]'' to her appearance in ''[[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/5995742cdabcc73ff66aad1a37973fbc.jpg LoS 2]]''.
1st Mar '16 7:40:03 PM wrm5
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* AwesomeButImpractical: The Flame Claws skill. Sure, it's the most damaging move in-game (rivaled only by Counterstrike Punch, but, well, the former requires blocking a normal attack before it could be performed), but putting it to good use is impossible due to its unclear aiming, plus one such occurrence drains a ''quarter'' of your maxed-out, non-overcharged Chaos meter. You are better off spending that energy differently.
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