History YMMV / Casablanca

23rd Feb '17 10:37:49 PM JulianLapostat
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--> '''[[https://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/2017/02/review-of-well-always-have-casablanca/ Noah Isenberg]''': "Nearly all of the some seventy-five actors and actresses cast in ''Casablanca'' were immigrants. Among the fourteen who earned a screen credit, only three were born in the United States: Humphrey Bogart, Dooley Wilson, and Joy Page, Jack Warner’s stepdaughter, who plays the Bulgarian refugee Annina Brandel. At the studio, Stage 8, where Rick’s Café was assembled, was known as International House...Hailing from more than thirty different nations, the majority of refugee actors in the film served merely as day players, performing small parts—generally either as Nazis or as refugees fleeing the Nazis—most without significant dialogue. Among them, however, were many distinguished European artists with illustrious pasts on stage and screen."

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--> '''[[https://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/2017/02/review-of-well-always-have-casablanca/ Noah Isenberg]''': Isenberg]]''': "Nearly all of the some seventy-five actors and actresses cast in ''Casablanca'' were immigrants. Among the fourteen who earned a screen credit, only three were born in the United States: Humphrey Bogart, Dooley Wilson, and Joy Page, Jack Warner’s stepdaughter, who plays the Bulgarian refugee Annina Brandel. At the studio, Stage 8, where Rick’s Café was assembled, was known as International House...Hailing from more than thirty different nations, the majority of refugee actors in the film served merely as day players, performing small parts—generally either as Nazis or as refugees fleeing the Nazis—most without significant dialogue. Among them, however, were many distinguished European artists with illustrious pasts on stage and screen."
23rd Feb '17 10:37:26 PM JulianLapostat
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--> '''[[https://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/2017/02/review-of-well-always-have-casablanca/ Noah Isenberg]''': "Nearly all of the some seventy-five actors and actresses cast in ''Casablanca'' were immigrants. Among the fourteen who earned a screen credit, only three were born in the United States: Humphrey Bogart, Dooley Wilson, and Joy Page, Jack Warner’s stepdaughter, who plays the Bulgarian refugee Annina Brandel. At the studio, Stage 8, where Rick’s Café was assembled, was known as International House...Hailing from more than thirty different nations, the majority of refugee actors in the film served merely as day players, performing small parts—generally either as Nazis or as refugees fleeing the Nazis—most without significant dialogue. Among them, however, were many distinguished European artists with illustrious pasts on stage and screen."
17th Feb '17 7:50:14 PM benda
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*** It's also important to remember that while the horrors of Holocaust were still almost unknown, the crude anti-Semitism of Nazis as well as massive Jewish emigration from Germany had been no secret since long before the start of WWII, so the concept of Jews fleeing German-occupied Europe (if from persecution rather than extermination) was perfectly natural for the film-makers and audiences alike.
27th Jan '17 9:48:19 AM CheeseDogX
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** "The lives of two people don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world." Hell, pretty much that entire monologue.
19th Jan '17 5:11:40 AM Doug86
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** The ethnicities of the refugees is left ambiguous. Some reviews complain about the lack of Jewish characters in a movie about Holocaust refugees, while others simply assume that Jan and Annina Brandel are Jews. Some think of Ugarte as Jewish because his actor was. Karl is German and is working against the Nazis so many fans of the movie believe him to be Jewish. Fanfic writers have fun getting creative with OCs and minor canon characters' backstories for being in Casablanca. Of course it's also important to remember [[HistoryMarchesOn at the time of the film's release, the Holocaust was not widely known]] and at any rate, the ''[[FinalSolution Endloesung]]'' proper had only just commenced a few months earlier. What reports were trickling out from Nazi-occupied Europe were not given enough credence due to heavily exaggerated atrocity stories about the Germans circulated during WorldWarOne making media gatekeepers wonder if this was another case of CryingWolf.

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** The ethnicities of the refugees is left ambiguous. Some reviews complain about the lack of Jewish characters in a movie about Holocaust refugees, while others simply assume that Jan and Annina Brandel are Jews. Some think of Ugarte as Jewish because his actor was. Karl is German and is working against the Nazis so many fans of the movie believe him to be Jewish. Fanfic writers have fun getting creative with OCs and minor canon characters' backstories for being in Casablanca. Of course it's also important to remember [[HistoryMarchesOn at the time of the film's release, the Holocaust was not widely known]] and at any rate, the ''[[FinalSolution Endloesung]]'' proper had only just commenced a few months earlier. What reports were trickling out from Nazi-occupied Europe were not given enough credence due to heavily exaggerated atrocity stories about the Germans circulated during WorldWarOne UsefulNotes/WorldWarI making media gatekeepers wonder if this was another case of CryingWolf.
13th Jan '17 9:29:29 AM Josef5678
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* AwardSnub: Considering the movie did win Best Picture and Best Director awards, it's not a major complaint. But CreatorHumphreyBogart - playing the iconic role of Rick - lost out Best Actor to Paul Lukas for ''Film/WatchOnTheRhine'', Creator/ClaudeRaines lost Best Supporting Actor to Charles Coburn for ''Film/TheMoreTheMerrier'', and Creator/IngridBergman wasn't even nominated for Best Actress (instead being cited for her work in ''For Whom the Bell Tolls'').

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* AwardSnub: Considering the movie did win Best Picture and Best Director awards, it's not a major complaint. But CreatorHumphreyBogart Creator/HumphreyBogart - playing the iconic role of Rick - lost out Best Actor to Paul Lukas for ''Film/WatchOnTheRhine'', Creator/ClaudeRaines lost Best Supporting Actor to Charles Coburn for ''Film/TheMoreTheMerrier'', and Creator/IngridBergman wasn't even nominated for Best Actress (instead being cited for her work in ''For Whom the Bell Tolls'').
13th Jan '17 4:53:00 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* AwardSnub: Considering the movie did win Best Picture and Best Director awards, it's not a major complaint. But Bogart - playing the iconic role of Rick - lost out Best Actor to Paul Lukas for ''Film/WatchOnTheRhine'', Claude Raines lost Best Supporting Actor to Charles Coburn for ''Film/TheMoreTheMerrier'', and Ingrid Bergman wasn't even nominated for Best Actress (instead being cited for her work in ''For Whom the Bell Tolls'').

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* AwardSnub: Considering the movie did win Best Picture and Best Director awards, it's not a major complaint. But Bogart CreatorHumphreyBogart - playing the iconic role of Rick - lost out Best Actor to Paul Lukas for ''Film/WatchOnTheRhine'', Claude Raines Creator/ClaudeRaines lost Best Supporting Actor to Charles Coburn for ''Film/TheMoreTheMerrier'', and Ingrid Bergman Creator/IngridBergman wasn't even nominated for Best Actress (instead being cited for her work in ''For Whom the Bell Tolls'').



* DirectorDisplacement: Michael Curtiz won the UsefulNotes/AcademyAward for Best Director, but that's about all the acclaim he's ever gotten for this movie. Film historians and critics usually credit the producer, Hal B. Wallis, and the various writers (Julius and Philip Epstein, Howard Koch, and the uncredited Casey Robinson) for the creative direction of the film. At times Curtiz has been called a "journeyman hack" or a "hired gun". The fiasco of one of his earlier movies, "Noah's Ark" (during which three extras were killed due directly to Curtiz's irresponsibility), no doubt also contributes to critics' reluctance to tie him to "the Greatest Movie Ever Made." His overall career was a success, however: He directed 173 films, starting in 1912, and didn't miss a year until his death in the early 1960s. Many are unremarkable, but there are at least a dozen that are still well-regarded.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: With so many famous actors all over the cast, this is likely inevitable. (For instance, Peter Lorre fans will easily say their favorite character is Ugarte, despite his appearing in only two scenes.)

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* DirectorDisplacement: Michael Curtiz Creator/MichaelCurtiz won the UsefulNotes/AcademyAward for Best Director, but that's about all the acclaim he's ever gotten for this movie. Film historians and critics usually credit the producer, Hal B. Wallis, and the various writers (Julius and Philip Epstein, Howard Koch, and the uncredited Casey Robinson) for the creative direction of the film. At times Curtiz has been called a "journeyman hack" or a "hired gun". The fiasco of one of his earlier movies, "Noah's Ark" (during which three extras were killed due directly to Curtiz's irresponsibility), no doubt also contributes to critics' reluctance to tie him to "the Greatest Movie Ever Made." His overall career was a success, however: He directed 173 films, starting in 1912, and didn't miss a year until his death in the early 1960s. Many are unremarkable, but there are at least a dozen that are still well-regarded.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: With so many famous actors all over the cast, this is likely inevitable. (For instance, Peter Lorre Creator/PeterLorre fans will easily say their favorite character is Ugarte, despite his appearing in only two scenes.)



** Peter Lorre's Ugarte screaming for Rick to "Hide me!" as he is about to be apprehended (and killed) by the Nazis. Lorre was a Jewish actor born in Austria, who worked in Germany until the Nazis came to power. He ended up departing for France and later to America.

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** Peter Lorre's Creator/PeterLorre's Ugarte screaming for Rick to "Hide me!" as he is about to be apprehended (and killed) by the Nazis. Lorre was a Jewish actor born in Austria, who worked in Germany until the Nazis came to power. He ended up departing for France and later to America.



* HoYay: Louis is often interpreted as AmbiguouslyGay, despite his habit of pulling the ScarpiaUltimatum on women. Even Ebert calls him "subtly homosexual" in his review of the film - apparently he [[NoBisexuals has never heard of bisexuals]] and it doesn't occur to him Renault might just be InTouchWithHisFeminineSide.

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Louis is often interpreted as AmbiguouslyGay, despite his habit of pulling the ScarpiaUltimatum on women. Even Ebert calls Creator/RogerEbert called him "subtly homosexual" in his review of the film - apparently he [[NoBisexuals has never heard of bisexuals]] and it doesn't occur to him Renault might just be InTouchWithHisFeminineSide.



* TearJerker:
** The "La Marseillaise" scene, especially Yvonne's close-up, which was almost certainly the actress's real emotions. The movie was shot in 1941, when France was still occupied by Nazi Germany, and the movie was cast with many refugees with memories of their home being invaded fresh in their minds. At the time this film was made, an Allied victory was still far from a foregone conclusion -- in this context, "La Marseillaise" is a triumphant act of defiance in real life as well.
*** Madeleine [=LeBeau=] who played Yvonne died on May 14, 2016 at the age of 92. She had been the last surviving credited cast member.
** One young refugee couple have had to flee from Bulgaria; all the wife has to say is that "Things are very bad there...the Devil has the people by the throat."
** The scene of Rick standing [[TrainStationGoodbye there at the train station]] reading that letter, as it starts to rain...
** That whole scene of Rick getting drunk after Ilsa walks back into his life. In an incredible performance by Bogart, he wordlessly expresses through the pain on his face how he got his insides kicked in when she left, and after the flashback showing why, he lowers his head in tears.
3rd Jan '17 12:55:23 PM wittylibrarian
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: There's a contingent of movie fans and critics - viewing the plot as contrived and the production values rather common - who cannot comprehend the sheer ''love'' people have for this film when it comes to the performances and witty banter. Granted, a lot of romantic thrillers post-''Casablanca'' [[FollowTheLeader tried to repeat the same script]] but could never recapture the spark of this film.
27th Dec '16 3:01:06 PM PatPayne
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** The ethnicities of the refugees is left ambiguous. Some reviews complain about the lack of Jewish characters in a movie about Holocaust refugees, while others simply assume that Jan and Annina Brandel are Jews. Some think of Ugarte as Jewish because his actor was. Karl is German and is working against the Nazis so many fans of the movie believe him to be Jewish. Fanfic writers have fun getting creative with OCs and minor canon characters' backstories for being in Casablanca.

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** The ethnicities of the refugees is left ambiguous. Some reviews complain about the lack of Jewish characters in a movie about Holocaust refugees, while others simply assume that Jan and Annina Brandel are Jews. Some think of Ugarte as Jewish because his actor was. Karl is German and is working against the Nazis so many fans of the movie believe him to be Jewish. Fanfic writers have fun getting creative with OCs and minor canon characters' backstories for being in Casablanca. Of course it's also important to remember [[HistoryMarchesOn at the time of the film's release, the Holocaust was not widely known]] and at any rate, the ''[[FinalSolution Endloesung]]'' proper had only just commenced a few months earlier. What reports were trickling out from Nazi-occupied Europe were not given enough credence due to heavily exaggerated atrocity stories about the Germans circulated during WorldWarOne making media gatekeepers wonder if this was another case of CryingWolf.
17th Dec '16 2:47:04 PM Sadsharks
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** Ebert would later amend his view slightly, stating in his 2007 review of TheAssassinationOfJesseJamesByTheCowardRobertFord that he thinks Renault [[BiTheWay "plays for both teams"]].

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** Ebert would later amend his view slightly, stating in his 2007 review of TheAssassinationOfJesseJamesByTheCowardRobertFord Film/TheAssassinationOfJesseJamesByTheCowardRobertFord that he thinks Renault [[BiTheWay "plays for both teams"]].
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