History YMMV / Casablanca

15th May '16 11:07:48 AM Josef5678
Is there an issue? Send a Message


*** Madeleine LeBeau who played Yvonne died on May 14, 2016 at the age of 92. She had been the last surviving credited cast member.

to:

*** Madeleine LeBeau [=LeBeau=] who played Yvonne died on May 14, 2016 at the age of 92. She had been the last surviving credited cast member.
15th May '16 9:43:18 AM Tapol
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

*** Madeleine LeBeau who played Yvonne died on May 14, 2016 at the age of 92. She had been the last surviving credited cast member.
4th May '16 12:43:01 AM SallyShears
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** The classic interpretation is that Ilsa is truly helpless to her feelings for Rick, and his words to Victor are a noble gesture to put his romantic rival's mind at ease and make sure they'll be happy together. However, Ilsa tries everything from reason to begging to threatening Rick with death in order to get those papers for Victor before she kisses him and finally melts his reserve. And remember, this woman has been sticking with Victor through some truly hairy situations, the willing and loyal accomplice to the most wanted spy in Nazi-occupied territories. Whatever feelings she may still have for Rick, it's no stretch to imagine that she's faking that helpless damsel act, and willing stay with Rick if it that's her only means of getting her husband to safety once and for all.

to:

* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The movie has a lot of amiguities, and thus has a ''lot'' of this trope.
** Ilsa. The classic interpretation is that Ilsa is truly helpless to her feelings for Rick, and his words to Victor are a noble gesture to put his romantic rival's mind at ease and make sure they'll be happy together. However, Ilsa tries everything from reason to begging to threatening Rick with death in order to get those papers for Victor before she kisses him and finally melts his reserve. And remember, this woman has been sticking with Victor through some truly hairy situations, the willing and loyal accomplice to the most wanted spy in Nazi-occupied territories. Whatever feelings she may still have for Rick, it's no stretch to imagine that she's faking that helpless damsel act, and willing stay with Rick if it that's her only means of getting her husband to safety once and for all.



** Basically Ilsa's got two totally awesome guys wrapped around her little finger here and would be perfectly happy to stay with either one if only she can be sure the other will be safe.

to:

** *** Basically Ilsa's got two totally awesome guys wrapped around her little finger here and would be perfectly happy to stay with either one if only she can be sure the other will be safe.safe.
** Many viewers and even some critics are unsure about Captain Renault's sexuality. The movie even drops a few hints that he's into men. Is he pretending to obsess over women because he's a closeted homosexual? Is he simply a bisexual who's only open about what he does with women because it's the 1940s? Or is he just [[AnythingThatMoves French]]?
** Ugarte. A sociopath who killed, stole and sold illegal visas for personal gain, who Rick genuinely couldn't care less about? Or a genuine friend of Rick's, just trying to get by, who had some understandable reasons not to feel bad about killing Nazis, who Rick is secretly sorry he lost? Not surprisingly, Peter Lorre fans tend to gravitate towards the latter.
** The ethnicities of the refugees is left ambiguous. Some reviews complain about the lack of Jewish characters in a movie about Holocaust refugees, while others simply assume that Jan and Annina Brandel are Jews. Some think of Ugarte as Jewish (despite UnfortunateImplications) because his actor was. Fanfic writers have fun getting creative with OCs and minor canon characters' backstories for being in Casablanca.
4th May '16 12:31:18 AM SallyShears
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* EnsembleDarkhorse: With so many famous actors all over the cast, this is likely inevitable. (For instance, Peter Lorre fans will easily say their favorite character is Ugarte, despite his appearing in only two scenes.)
30th Mar '16 12:29:17 AM Mdumas43073
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Rick having to remind Sascha to escort the drunk woman home ''and then come right back''. Sascha's disappointed "Yes boss" implies he had been hoping to take advantage of the situation.


Added DiffLines:

** Rick having to remind Sascha to escort the drunk woman home ''and then come right back''. Sascha's disappointed "Yes, boss" implies that he'd been hoping to take advantage of the situation.
30th Mar '16 12:25:51 AM Mdumas43073
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The public's consensus regarding the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgJODwYoKfU&feature=fvwrel 1980s colorized version]].

to:

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The public's consensus regarding the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgJODwYoKfU&feature=fvwrel [[GeorgeLucasAlteredVersion 1980s colorized version]].
30th Mar '16 12:23:58 AM Mdumas43073
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The public's consensus regarding [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgJODwYoKfU&feature=fvwrel a 1980s colorized version]].

to:

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The public's consensus regarding the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgJODwYoKfU&feature=fvwrel a 1980s colorized version]].
10th Mar '16 8:48:48 PM Josef5678
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* TearJerker: The "La Marseillaise" scene, especially Yvonne's close-up, which was almost certainly the actress's real emotions. The movie was shot in 1941, when France was still occupied by Nazi Germany, and the movie was cast with many refugees with memories of their home being invaded fresh in their minds. At the time this film was made, an Allied victory was still far from a foregone conclusion -- in this context, "La Marseillaise" is a triumphant act of defiance in real life as well.

to:

* TearJerker: TearJerker:
**
The "La Marseillaise" scene, especially Yvonne's close-up, which was almost certainly the actress's real emotions. The movie was shot in 1941, when France was still occupied by Nazi Germany, and the movie was cast with many refugees with memories of their home being invaded fresh in their minds. At the time this film was made, an Allied victory was still far from a foregone conclusion -- in this context, "La Marseillaise" is a triumphant act of defiance in real life as well.



* ValuesDissonance: In the first scene inside Rick's, Sam is singing "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shine_%281910_song%29 Shine]]".

to:

* ValuesDissonance: ValuesDissonance:
**
In the first scene inside Rick's, Sam is singing "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shine_%281910_song%29 Shine]]".
10th Mar '16 6:00:45 PM wittylibrarian
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** That whole scene of Rick getting drunk after Ilsa walks back into his life. In an incredible performance by Bogart, he wordlessly expresses through the pain on his face how he got his insides kicked in when she left, and after the flashback showing why, he lowers his head in tears.
10th Mar '16 5:56:16 PM wittylibrarian
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** The scene of Rick standing [[TrainStationGoodbye there at the train station]] reading that letter, as it starts to rain...
This list shows the last 10 events of 97. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.Casablanca