History YMMV / Casablanca

28th Jun '16 12:34:46 AM SallyShears
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* DirectorDisplacement: Michael Curtiz won the UsefulNotes/AcademyAward for Best Director, but that's about all the acclaim he's ever gotten for this movie. Film historians and critics usually credit the producer, Hal B. Wallis, and the various writers (Julius and Philip Epstein, Howard Koch, and the uncredited Casey Robinson) for the creative direction of the film. At worst, Curtiz has been called a "journeyman hack" or a "hired gun". His overall career was a success, however: He directed 173 films, starting in 1912, and didn't miss a year until his death in the early 1960s. Many are unremarkable, but there are at least a dozen that are still well-regarded.

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* DirectorDisplacement: Michael Curtiz won the UsefulNotes/AcademyAward for Best Director, but that's about all the acclaim he's ever gotten for this movie. Film historians and critics usually credit the producer, Hal B. Wallis, and the various writers (Julius and Philip Epstein, Howard Koch, and the uncredited Casey Robinson) for the creative direction of the film. At worst, times Curtiz has been called a "journeyman hack" or a "hired gun". The fiasco of one of his earlier movies, "Noah's Ark" (during which three extras were killed due directly to Curtiz's irresponsibility), no doubt also contributes to critics' reluctance to tie him to "the Greatest Movie Ever Made." His overall career was a success, however: He directed 173 films, starting in 1912, and didn't miss a year until his death in the early 1960s. Many are unremarkable, but there are at least a dozen that are still well-regarded.
16th Jun '16 12:32:25 AM SallyShears
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** Honorable Mention must also go to Ugarte, who really loves to invade Rick's personal space. Of course, this is just part of Creator/PeterLorre's trademark style of acting. Ugarte may not come across as exactly "gay" or "bisexual" so much as simply an eccentric who will half-consciously make love to anything that gets too close. (His cigarette got the most action.)

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** Honorable Mention must also go to Ugarte, who really loves to invade Rick's personal space. Of course, this is just part of Creator/PeterLorre's trademark style of acting. Ugarte may not come across as exactly "gay" or "bisexual" so much as simply an eccentric who will half-consciously make love to anything that gets too close. (His cigarette got the most action.) Although...
--->'''Rick:''': First they grab Ugarte then she walks in. One in, one out...
***...almost seems to imply Rick had the same kind of relationship with Ugarte that he had with Ilsa.
15th Jun '16 10:28:36 PM Josef5678
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** This may have something to do with Curtiz having directed a movie that ''killed three people,'' and maimed several others. This was his silent film "Noah's Ark," from 1928. Curtiz irresponsibly didn't warn or prepare his movie extras for the amounts of raging water in his flooding scene, and as a result, three men drowned, a forth had to have his leg amputated, several others suffered broken bones, and actress Dolores Costello caught severe pneumonia. One of the survivors of his flood scene was a young John Wayne. Basically, it's understandable why everyone would want to distance this guy from the Greatest Movie Ever Made.
14th Jun '16 4:08:04 PM SallyShears
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** This may have something to do with Curtiz having directed a movie that ''killed three people,'' and maimed several others. This was his silent film "Noah's Ark," from 1928. Curtiz irresponsibly didn't warn or prepare his movie extras for the amounts of raging water in his flooding scene, and as a result, three men drowned, a forth had to have his leg amputated, several others suffered broken bones, and actress Dolores Costello caught severe pneumonia. One of the survivors of his flood scene was a young John Wayne. Basically, it's understandable why everyone would want to distance this guy from the Greatest Movie Ever Made.
1st Jun '16 7:35:42 AM MagBas
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** The ethnicities of the refugees is left ambiguous. Some reviews complain about the lack of Jewish characters in a movie about Holocaust refugees, while others simply assume that Jan and Annina Brandel are Jews. Some think of Ugarte as Jewish (despite UnfortunateImplications) because his actor was. Fanfic writers have fun getting creative with OCs and minor canon characters' backstories for being in Casablanca.

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** The ethnicities of the refugees is left ambiguous. Some reviews complain about the lack of Jewish characters in a movie about Holocaust refugees, while others simply assume that Jan and Annina Brandel are Jews. Some think of Ugarte as Jewish (despite UnfortunateImplications) because his actor was. Fanfic writers have fun getting creative with OCs and minor canon characters' backstories for being in Casablanca.
15th May '16 11:07:48 AM Josef5678
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*** Madeleine LeBeau who played Yvonne died on May 14, 2016 at the age of 92. She had been the last surviving credited cast member.

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*** Madeleine LeBeau [=LeBeau=] who played Yvonne died on May 14, 2016 at the age of 92. She had been the last surviving credited cast member.
15th May '16 9:43:18 AM Tapol
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*** Madeleine LeBeau who played Yvonne died on May 14, 2016 at the age of 92. She had been the last surviving credited cast member.
4th May '16 12:43:01 AM SallyShears
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** The classic interpretation is that Ilsa is truly helpless to her feelings for Rick, and his words to Victor are a noble gesture to put his romantic rival's mind at ease and make sure they'll be happy together. However, Ilsa tries everything from reason to begging to threatening Rick with death in order to get those papers for Victor before she kisses him and finally melts his reserve. And remember, this woman has been sticking with Victor through some truly hairy situations, the willing and loyal accomplice to the most wanted spy in Nazi-occupied territories. Whatever feelings she may still have for Rick, it's no stretch to imagine that she's faking that helpless damsel act, and willing stay with Rick if it that's her only means of getting her husband to safety once and for all.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The movie has a lot of amiguities, and thus has a ''lot'' of this trope.
** Ilsa. The classic interpretation is that Ilsa is truly helpless to her feelings for Rick, and his words to Victor are a noble gesture to put his romantic rival's mind at ease and make sure they'll be happy together. However, Ilsa tries everything from reason to begging to threatening Rick with death in order to get those papers for Victor before she kisses him and finally melts his reserve. And remember, this woman has been sticking with Victor through some truly hairy situations, the willing and loyal accomplice to the most wanted spy in Nazi-occupied territories. Whatever feelings she may still have for Rick, it's no stretch to imagine that she's faking that helpless damsel act, and willing stay with Rick if it that's her only means of getting her husband to safety once and for all.



** Basically Ilsa's got two totally awesome guys wrapped around her little finger here and would be perfectly happy to stay with either one if only she can be sure the other will be safe.

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** *** Basically Ilsa's got two totally awesome guys wrapped around her little finger here and would be perfectly happy to stay with either one if only she can be sure the other will be safe.safe.
** Many viewers and even some critics are unsure about Captain Renault's sexuality. The movie even drops a few hints that he's into men. Is he pretending to obsess over women because he's a closeted homosexual? Is he simply a bisexual who's only open about what he does with women because it's the 1940s? Or is he just [[AnythingThatMoves French]]?
** Ugarte. A sociopath who killed, stole and sold illegal visas for personal gain, who Rick genuinely couldn't care less about? Or a genuine friend of Rick's, just trying to get by, who had some understandable reasons not to feel bad about killing Nazis, who Rick is secretly sorry he lost? Not surprisingly, Peter Lorre fans tend to gravitate towards the latter.
** The ethnicities of the refugees is left ambiguous. Some reviews complain about the lack of Jewish characters in a movie about Holocaust refugees, while others simply assume that Jan and Annina Brandel are Jews. Some think of Ugarte as Jewish (despite UnfortunateImplications) because his actor was. Fanfic writers have fun getting creative with OCs and minor canon characters' backstories for being in Casablanca.
4th May '16 12:31:18 AM SallyShears
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: With so many famous actors all over the cast, this is likely inevitable. (For instance, Peter Lorre fans will easily say their favorite character is Ugarte, despite his appearing in only two scenes.)
30th Mar '16 12:29:17 AM Mdumas43073
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** Rick having to remind Sascha to escort the drunk woman home ''and then come right back''. Sascha's disappointed "Yes boss" implies he had been hoping to take advantage of the situation.


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** Rick having to remind Sascha to escort the drunk woman home ''and then come right back''. Sascha's disappointed "Yes, boss" implies that he'd been hoping to take advantage of the situation.
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