History YMMV / CaptainAmericatheWinterSoldier

25th May '16 8:42:50 AM Anicomicgeek
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** The HYDRA reveal gets worse with the first issue of ''Captain America: Steve Rogers'' revealing [[spoiler: that Steve himself is with HYDRA and Marvel [[http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/25/captain-america-villain-hydra-nick-spencer-tom-brevoort confirming]] that he always has been and it's the real Steve acting on his own free will.]]
22nd May '16 2:06:06 PM SuddenFrost
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** In the UK release, ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' is on Steve's To-Do List. Creator/BenedictCumberbatch would portray the titular character in the ''Film/DoctorStrange2016'' movie. [[Film/IronMan Tony Stark]] actor Creator/RobertDowneyJr played Sherlock Holmes in the Creator/GuyRitchie–[[Film/SherlockHolmes directed]] [[Film/SherlockHolmesAGameOfShadows films]]; and both Tony Stark and Stephen Strange are [[spoiler:among HYDRA's targets for Project Insight]]. So it looks like [[spoiler:HYDRA]] is so unwilling to let Steve watch Sherlock Holmes.

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** In the UK release, ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' is on Steve's To-Do List. Creator/BenedictCumberbatch would portray the titular character in the ''Film/DoctorStrange2016'' movie. [[Film/IronMan Tony Stark]] actor Creator/RobertDowneyJr played Sherlock Holmes in the Creator/GuyRitchie–[[Film/SherlockHolmes directed]] [[Film/SherlockHolmesAGameOfShadows films]]; and both Tony Stark and Stephen Strange are [[spoiler:among HYDRA's targets for Project Insight]]. So it looks like [[spoiler:HYDRA]] is so unwilling to let Steve watch Sherlock Holmes.



* JustHereForGodzilla: For many comic book fans, the primary reason to watch the movie was the conflict between Cap and the Winter Soldier--or more specifically, the revelation of the Winter Soldier's identity and Cap's reaction to it. Marvel was not blind to this, and took advantage of it by having most of the promotion of the movie focused on Cap and the Winter Soldier. [[spoiler:It also did a great job of hiding the mid-plot twist and true conflict of the movie--that HYDRA had infiltrated S.H.I.E.L.D. at its very creation, and therefore the organization is too corrupt to continue on and must be dissolved permanently.]]

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* JustHereForGodzilla: JustHereForGodzilla:
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For many comic book fans, the primary reason to watch the movie was the conflict between Cap and the Winter Soldier--or more specifically, the revelation of the Winter Soldier's identity and Cap's reaction to it. Marvel was not blind to this, and took advantage of it by having most of the promotion of the movie focused on Cap and the Winter Soldier. [[spoiler:It also did a great job of hiding the mid-plot twist and true conflict of the movie--that HYDRA had infiltrated S.H.I.E.L.D. at its very creation, and therefore the organization is too corrupt to continue on and must be dissolved permanently.]]
** Some cinema-goers were surprised to see a sizable number of elderly women in the audience. They were probably fans of Creator/RobertRedford and were mainly there to see him [[spoiler:play a villain.
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21st May '16 2:00:33 AM mariic
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* AscendedMeme: One scene early on featured a list of things Cap wanted to view. [[BrickJoke Later on,]] Natasha makes a Film/WarGames reference, and Cap responds that he [[Film/TheAvengers2012 understood that reference.]]
16th May '16 5:06:21 PM Nyame
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** [[spoiler:Hail HYDRA]].
** [[MeaningfulEcho I'm with you to the end of the line]].

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** [[spoiler:Hail HYDRA]].
"[[spoiler:Hail HYDRA]]."
** [[MeaningfulEcho "[[MeaningfulEcho I'm with you to the end of the line]]."
16th May '16 5:05:14 PM Nyame
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* SignatureLine: Two, in fact.
** [[spoiler:Hail HYDRA]].
** [[MeaningfulEcho I'm with you to the end of the line]].
15th May '16 8:17:35 PM HeraldAlberich
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation
** Was [[spoiler:Alexander Pierce]] a WellIntentionedExtremist who sincerely wanted to give the world a newer, better, truer, purer form of freedom, or was he just an ego-maniacal control freak trying to justify what was really little more than a thinly veiled take over the world plot? (in short, a literal Nazi)
** [[spoiler:How much free will does Zola have inside the computer?]] In the first movie he was unwilling to sacrifice himself for the cause but in the sequel he gladly kept talking to allow a missile to hit his position. [[spoiler: Was he really being used by Pierce in much the same fashion that Pierce utilizes the Winter Soldier]]? Or had he in fact been playing the role of reluctant henchman as far back as ''The First Avenger'' while hiding his true nature? Or given that [[spoiler:he's now a computer program with access to the Internet]], did he simply make a backup copy of himself so that he didn't really sacrifice himself at all?
** More than a few reviewers pointed out that Cap appears to be borderline ''suicidal'' through the film, making reckless moves like leaping out of the Quinjet without a parachute, unmasking in front of Batroc and throwing away his shield, and [[spoiler:not even making an attempt to save himself from the crashing helicarrier and challenging Bucky to kill him]]. Connect with his hidden angst about all his dead friends from the past and being a FishOutOfTemporalWater, and Steve might be a subconscious DeathSeeker.
** Is Batroc a LeaveNoSurvivors pirate-for-hire? Or is he a BloodKnight that [[spoiler: routinely does BadGuysDoTheDirtyWork jobs for Fury]] and is plagued by a few AxCrazy crew members?

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation
AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** Was [[spoiler:Alexander Pierce]] a WellIntentionedExtremist who sincerely wanted to give the world a newer, better, truer, purer form of freedom, or was he just an ego-maniacal control freak trying to justify what was really little more than a thinly veiled take over the world plot? take-over-the-world plot (in short, a literal Nazi)
Nazi)?
** [[spoiler:How much free will does Zola have inside the computer?]] In the first movie he was unwilling to sacrifice himself for the cause but in the sequel he gladly kept keeps talking to allow a missile to hit his position. [[spoiler: Was [[spoiler:Was he really being used by Pierce in much the same fashion that Pierce utilizes the Winter Soldier]]? Soldier?]] Or had he in fact been playing the role of reluctant henchman as far back as ''The ''[[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger The First Avenger'' Avenger]]'' while hiding his true nature? Or given that [[spoiler:he's now a computer program with access to the Internet]], did he simply make a backup copy of himself so that he didn't really sacrifice himself at all?
** More than a few reviewers pointed out that Cap appears to be borderline ''suicidal'' through the film, making reckless moves like leaping out of the Quinjet without a parachute, unmasking in front of Batroc and throwing putting away his shield, and [[spoiler:not even making an attempt to save himself from the crashing helicarrier Helicarrier and challenging Bucky to kill him]]. Connect with his hidden angst about all his dead friends from the past and being a FishOutOfTemporalWater, and Steve might be a subconscious DeathSeeker.
** Is Batroc a LeaveNoSurvivors pirate-for-hire? Or is he a BloodKnight that [[spoiler: routinely [[spoiler:routinely does BadGuysDoTheDirtyWork jobs for Fury]] and is plagued by a few AxCrazy crew members?



** When Cap told Black Widow that their FakeOutMakeOut wasn't his first kiss since 1945, was he telling truth and he has tried dating in the year or since he re-awoke? Or was he lying [[HaveIMentionedIAmSexuallyActiveToday in order to not seem like a closed-off guy]]?

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** When Cap told Black Widow that their FakeOutMakeOut wasn't his first kiss since 1945, was he telling truth and he has tried dating in the year or so since he re-awoke? Or was he lying [[HaveIMentionedIAmSexuallyActiveToday in order to not seem like a closed-off guy]]?



** Nick Fury and his argument about facing the world as it is and not the way we want it to be or would like it to be - Fury as a {{Strawman}} trying to justify his actions with a black and white morality, or Fury as a teller of harsh truths? Or, as a Third option, Fury deliberately trying to push Steve's buttons to keep him on his guard?

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** Nick Fury and his argument about facing the world as it is and not the way we want it to be or would like it to be - Fury be--Fury as a {{Strawman}} trying to justify his actions with a black and white morality, or Fury as a teller of harsh truths? Or, as a Third option, Fury deliberately trying to push Steve's buttons to keep him on his guard?



** ''The First Avenger'' took some criticism for its idealized depiction of the 1940s, a time during which America was still segregated and committed crimes of its own (which could have something to do with the Howling Commandos also being an integrated unit). This is briefly touched upon for ''The Winter Soldier''.
-->'''Nick Fury''': You know, I read those old SSR files. "Greatest Generation"? You guys did some nasty stuff.
-->'''Steve Rogers''': Yeah. We compromised, sometimes in ways that made us not sleep so well. But we did it so that people could be free. This [Project Insight] isn't freedom, this is fear.
** There was also some ire given at Steve being perceived as not all that powerful or useful during ''The Avengers''. This film thus ups his abilities to make it clear he really is a ''super'' soldier, performing feats such as taking down a Quinjet, smashing through door after door at full speed to catch a target, and literally singlehandedly wiping out a dozen hostile thugs inside a cramped elevator. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IHJYMZL88k One commercial]] even made the debate about his power in-universe.

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** ''The First Avenger'' took some criticism for its idealized depiction of the 1940s, a time during which America was still segregated and committed crimes of its own (which could have something to do with the Howling Commandos also being an integrated unit). This is briefly touched upon for in ''The Winter Soldier''.
-->'''Nick Fury''': --->'''Nick Fury:''' You know, I read those old SSR files. "Greatest Generation"? You guys did some nasty stuff.
-->'''Steve Rogers''':
stuff.\\
'''Steve Rogers:'''
Yeah. We compromised, sometimes in ways that made us not sleep so well. But we did it so that people could be free. This [Project Insight] isn't freedom, this is fear.
** There was also some ire given at Steve being perceived as not all that powerful or useful during ''The Avengers''.''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''. This film thus ups his abilities to make it clear he really is a ''super'' soldier, performing feats such as taking down a Quinjet, smashing through door after door at full speed to catch a target, and literally singlehandedly wiping out a dozen hostile thugs inside a cramped elevator. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IHJYMZL88k One commercial]] even made the debate about his power in-universe.



** The twist that [[spoiler:HYDRA has infiltrated SHIELD since its creation]]. It is loved by many fans for the massive amount of RewatchBonus with the very subtle but also well planned {{Foreshadowing}} in previous MCU films as well as taking the entire MCU in a very interesting and unique direction. However, some have argued that the story would have been far more interesting if it had followed through on its initial premise, involving SHIELD taking morally dubious actions in the name of national security, rather than just revealing that [[spoiler: HYDRA was really behind everything]].
** In general, the [[spoiler: HYDRA twist]] can be seen as thrilling turn of events or an AssPull.

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** The twist that [[spoiler:HYDRA has infiltrated SHIELD S.H.I.E.L.D. since its creation]]. It is loved by many fans for the massive amount of RewatchBonus with the very subtle but also well planned {{Foreshadowing}} in previous MCU films films, as well as taking the entire MCU in a very interesting and unique direction. However, some have argued that the story would have been far more interesting if it had followed through on its initial premise, involving SHIELD S.H.I.E.L.D. taking morally dubious actions in the name of national security, rather than just revealing that [[spoiler: HYDRA [[spoiler:HYDRA was really behind everything]].
** In general, the [[spoiler: HYDRA [[spoiler:HYDRA twist]] can be seen as a thrilling turn of events or an AssPull.



** Considering the film's numerous parallels to the Series/MetalGear series, it's not surprising that the Winter Soldier has been compared to [[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance Raiden, Jetstream Sam]], or [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid Gray Fox]] thanks to his mask, SuperReflexes, and cybernetic limbs, among other things. He also sometimes gets comparisons to [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain Quiet]] due to their shared sniping skills, dark brown hair, eye makeup, and general lack of spoken lines until a dramatic moment near the end.

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** Considering the film's numerous parallels to the Series/MetalGear ''Franchise/MetalGear'' series, it's not surprising that the Winter Soldier has been compared to [[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance Raiden, Jetstream Sam]], or [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid Gray Fox]] thanks to his mask, SuperReflexes, and cybernetic limbs, among other things. He also sometimes gets comparisons to [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain Quiet]] due to their shared sniping skills, dark brown hair, eye makeup, and general lack of spoken lines until a dramatic moment near the end.



** [[spoiler: HYDRA is a secret multinational organization that has been influencing history and controlling humans because of the TheEvilsOfFreeWill.]] This has inevitably drawn comparisons to other similar fictional groups like [[Franchise/AssassinsCreed the Templars]]. ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' makes the two even more similar [[spoiler: making them originate from an AncientConspiracy trying to revive an evil superhuman being.]]
** Simply on the basis of their [[ArtificialLimbs cybernetic arm]] or PowerFist, the Winter Soldier has been compared to [[{{Film/IRobot}} Del Spooner]] or [[{{Film/Hellboy}} Hellboy]]

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** [[spoiler: HYDRA [[spoiler:HYDRA is a secret multinational organization that has been influencing history and controlling humans because of the TheEvilsOfFreeWill.]] This has inevitably drawn comparisons to other similar fictional groups groups, like [[Franchise/AssassinsCreed the Templars]]. ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed's'' Templars. ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' makes the two even more similar [[spoiler: making them originate by revealing that [[spoiler:HYDRA originates from an AncientConspiracy trying to revive an evil superhuman being.]]
being]].
** Simply on the basis of their [[ArtificialLimbs cybernetic arm]] or PowerFist, the Winter Soldier has been compared to [[{{Film/IRobot}} Del Spooner]] or [[{{Film/Hellboy}} Hellboy]]{{Film/Hellboy}}.



** Winter Soldier[=/=]Rumlow is popular, despite the fact that the two of them share very little screentime and even fewer words.
** Winter Soldier[=/=]Falcon is even more popular, thanks to interviews that their actors do together. This is despite the fact that the characters interact one-on-one for about 15 seconds, a fight ending with the Soldier punting Falcon off a Helicarrier with broken wings.

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** Winter Soldier[=/=]Rumlow Soldier/Rumlow is popular, despite the fact that the two of them share very little screentime and even fewer words.
** Winter Soldier[=/=]Falcon Soldier/Falcon is even more popular, thanks to interviews that their actors do together. This is despite the fact that the characters interact one-on-one for about 15 seconds, a fight ending with the Soldier punting Falcon off a Helicarrier with broken wings.



* CreepyAwesome: [[spoiler: Arnim Zola's computerized self.]]

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* CreepyAwesome: [[spoiler: Arnim CreepyAwesome:
** [[spoiler:Arnim
Zola's computerized self.]]



** Henry Jackman's score drew negative reviews, but the general public loved it--particularly the track "Taking A Stand", which served as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jpnBs0DkXg the music for the]] [[Franchise/JamesBond appropriately Bond-esque]] end credits.
* DracoInLeatherPants: Despite the fact that he was revealed to be [[spoiler: a HYDRA infiltrator, Sitwell]] still gets plenty of love from fans. It's helped by ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' revealing that [[spoiler:some HYDRA agents were brainwashed, which could well be the case with Sitwell as he's a loyal SHIELD agent in the comics.]]
* EndingFatigue: The climax is split across ''five'' settings and can start to wear thin after a while. The majority of critics and fans alike agree that while this was an awesome movie, it was probably too long.

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** Henry Jackman's score drew negative reviews, but the general public loved it--particularly the track "Taking A a Stand", which served as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jpnBs0DkXg the music for the]] [[Franchise/JamesBond appropriately Bond-esque]] end credits.
* DracoInLeatherPants: Despite the fact that he was revealed to be [[spoiler: a HYDRA infiltrator, Sitwell]] still gets plenty of love from fans. It's helped by ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' revealing that [[spoiler:some HYDRA agents were brainwashed, which could well be the case with Sitwell as he's a loyal SHIELD S.H.I.E.L.D. agent in the comics.]]
comics]].
* EndingFatigue: The climax is split across ''five'' settings and can start to wear thin after a while. The majority of critics and fans alike agree that while this was is an awesome movie, it was it's probably too long.



** Jack Rollins, one of the STRIKE team members, is surprisingly popular for a character with barely any lines, and almost no resemblance to his comic book counterpart. [[spoiler: Some element of EvilIsCool might be involved]].
** Cameron Klein a.k.a. the SHIELD operative who refuses to [[spoiler:launch Project Insight when Steve publicly reveals HYDRA's involvement]] even with [[spoiler:Rumlow]] pointing a gun at his head has won more than a few fans. He even makes a return appearance in ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' on the bridge of [[spoiler:Fury's private helicarrier]] in the climax, presumably because of his actions in this film. His name is actually listed in the credits of that film too.
* EvenBetterSequel: ''Winter Soldier'' has been considered an even stronger film than [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger its predecessor]], already a fan favorite in the MCU. In fact some critics and fans have been treating it as this to the ''entire'' MCU, declaring it the best of the whole series so far (its Tomatometer is the fourth-highest in the MCU behind ''Film/IronMan'', ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'', and ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy''). It's also far more successful at the box office than the original.
* FandomBerserkButton: Referring to the Winter Soldier / [[spoiler: Bucky Barnes]] as a villain is a good way to set off some of the more rabid fans.
* FanficFuel: ''The entire plot of the movie'' ended up being this. The film only gives glimpses into how [[spoiler:Hydra slowly took over S.H.I.E.L.D. right under Peggy's nose]], what mission did the Winter Soldier went on to "shape the century"? What is his relationship with [[spoiler:Alexander Pierce]] and how the latter brainwash him?

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** Jack Rollins, one of the STRIKE team members, is surprisingly popular for a character with barely any lines, and almost no resemblance to his comic book counterpart. [[spoiler: Some [[spoiler:Some element of EvilIsCool EvilIsCool]] might be involved]].
involved.
** Cameron Klein a.k.a. the SHIELD S.H.I.E.L.D. operative who refuses to [[spoiler:launch Project Insight when Steve publicly reveals HYDRA's involvement]] involvement]], even with [[spoiler:Rumlow]] pointing a gun at his head head, has won more than a few fans. He even makes a return appearance in ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' on the bridge of [[spoiler:Fury's private helicarrier]] Helicarrier]] in the climax, presumably because of his actions in this film. His name is actually listed in the credits of that film too.
* EvenBetterSequel: ''Winter Soldier'' has been considered an even stronger film than [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger its predecessor]], already a fan favorite in the MCU. In fact some critics and fans have been treating it as this to the ''entire'' MCU, declaring it the best of the whole series so far (its Tomatometer is the fourth-highest in the MCU behind ''Film/IronMan'', ''Film/IronMan1'', ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'', and ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy''). It's also far more successful at the box office than the original.
* FandomBerserkButton: Referring to the Winter Soldier / [[spoiler: Bucky Soldier/[[spoiler:Bucky Barnes]] as a villain is a good way to set off some of the more rabid fans.
* FanficFuel: ''The entire plot of the movie'' ended up being this. The film only gives glimpses into how [[spoiler:Hydra [[spoiler:HYDRA slowly took over S.H.I.E.L.D. right under Peggy's nose]], what nose]]. What mission did the Winter Soldier went go on to "shape the century"? What is his relationship with [[spoiler:Alexander Pierce]] and how did the latter brainwash him?



** Not as popular as others, but due to the lack of interaction between her and Steve, Sharon is instead paired with [[EnsembleDarkhorse that defiant SHIELD technician]] after she saved his life from Brock Rumlow.

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** Not as popular as others, but due to the lack of interaction between her and Steve, Sharon is instead paired with [[EnsembleDarkhorse that defiant SHIELD S.H.I.E.L.D. technician]] after she saved his life from Brock Rumlow.



* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Nick Fury's sarcastic remark to a pair of [[spoiler: fake]] white cops who pull up beside his heavily armored car, meant to be a humorous allusion to the fact that even ''he'' has to deal with the possibility of a DWB, and the following sequence [[spoiler: where the "cops" converge on Fury and try to break into his heavily armoured car and kill him]] is entertaining for being action-packed and also because it's Nick Goddamn Fury. At the same time, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement certain real-life events]] occured after the movie's release make it a lot less fun in retrospect to watch [[spoiler: an army of white cops converging on and attempting to brutally murder a lone black man who, [[GatlingGood gatling gun aside]], has clearly sustained a broken arm and probably multiple internal injuries and is trying to escape from them.]]

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Nick Fury's sarcastic remark to a pair of [[spoiler: fake]] [[spoiler:fake]] white cops who pull up beside his heavily armored car, meant to be a humorous allusion to the fact that even ''he'' has to deal with the possibility of a DWB, and the following sequence [[spoiler: where [[spoiler:where the "cops" converge on Fury and try to break into his heavily armoured car and kill him]] is entertaining for being action-packed and also because it's Nick Goddamn Fury. At the same time, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement certain real-life events]] occured that occurred after the movie's release make it a lot less fun in retrospect to watch [[spoiler: an [[spoiler:an army of white cops converging on and attempting to brutally murder a lone black man who, [[GatlingGood gatling gun aside]], has clearly sustained a broken arm and probably multiple internal injuries and is trying to escape from them.]]them]].



* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: [[https://www.chinafile.com/reporting-opinion/media/captain-america-conquers-china The Chinese love Captain America]] because its main message is, as one reviewer puts it, "To love one's country isn't the same as loving one's government". The movie appeals to a Chinese audience tiring of government censorship and propagandist heroes.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: [[https://www.chinafile.com/reporting-opinion/media/captain-america-conquers-china The Chinese love Captain America]] because its main message is, as one reviewer puts it, "To love one's country isn't the same as loving one's government". government." The movie appeals to a Chinese audience tiring of government censorship and propagandist heroes.



** In-universe, Nick Fury's memory of how Alexander Pierce turned down a Nobel Peace Prize by saying that "peace isn't a reward, it's a responsibility." The problem is that Pierce's idea of peace is one [[spoiler: enforced by HYDRA]].
** TheReveal of Sitwell and Senator Stern as [[spoiler: HYDRA agents]]. If the first name hasn't been a blow enough, the mere fact that the latter ''wanted'' to confiscate Tony's suit in ''Film/IronMan2'' for the U.S. military is quite a guise for [[spoiler: HYDRA control]]. Making it worse, the U.S. military's immediate action when Colonel Rhodes did acquire Tony's spare suit was to ''weaponize'' it in the name of patriotism.

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** In-universe, Nick Fury's memory of how Alexander Pierce turned down a Nobel Peace Prize by saying that "peace isn't a reward, it's a responsibility." The problem is that Pierce's idea of peace is one [[spoiler: enforced [[spoiler:enforced by HYDRA]].
** TheReveal of Sitwell and Senator Stern as [[spoiler: HYDRA [[spoiler:HYDRA agents]]. If the first name hasn't been a blow enough, the mere fact that the latter ''wanted'' to confiscate Tony's suit in ''Film/IronMan2'' for the U.S. military is quite a guise for [[spoiler: HYDRA [[spoiler:HYDRA control]]. Making it worse, the U.S. military's immediate action when Colonel Rhodes did acquire Tony's spare suit was to ''weaponize'' it in the name of patriotism.



** In ''The Avengers'', Tony comments that "In a few hours, I'll know every dirty secret S.H.I.E.L.D has ever tried to hide". [[spoiler:With the reveal that HYDRA was using SHIELD as a front and had been manipulating it, Tony either FailedASpotCheck - ''or'' HYDRA put failsafes in place in case Tony tried such a move. Or there was simply so much information that he had no way of sifting through all of it to pick out the discrepancies.]]
** In the 1998 Nick Fury movie, when [[spoiler:Alexander Pierce]] makes a mistake during a mission, Fury says that he is [[spoiler:either a traitor or an idiot.]] While [[spoiler:Pierce]] from that movie [[spoiler:wasn't a traitor]], the one in this movie is.
** When Steve [[spoiler:wakes in a hospital bed at the end of the film, this is the second time he's found himself in a similar situation after falling into water from a great height expecting to die. The first time this happened, he found the era-appropriate room was a lie and that he had actually been asleep for 67 years. If he hadn't seen Sam there with Marvin Gaye's "Trouble Man"--a soundtrack from an era he missed--it wouldn't have been pretty.]]
** In ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'', Loki insulted [[ComicBook/BlackWidow Natasha]] because she works for the service of liars and killers. [[spoiler:It's ambiguous whether he referred to the [[UsefulNotes/MoscowCentre KGB]] (Natasha's previous employer) or SHIELD. If he was referring to SHIELD, then [[VillainHasAPoint he turns out to be right]], since HYDRA-infiltrated SHIELD are indeed trained manipulators and assassins.]]
** An out-of-universe example: ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' did not get BackedByThePentagon because of concerns about the fact that SHIELD was subordinate to the World Security Council, an entity that almost nothing was known about and so the Pentagon wanted nothing to do with the movie. Come this film, [[spoiler: those concerns were proven absolutely right as SHIELD is revealed to be basically a reborn HYDRA.]]

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** In ''The Avengers'', Tony comments that "In a few hours, I'll know every dirty secret S.H.I.E.L.D has ever tried to hide". hide." [[spoiler:With the reveal that HYDRA was using SHIELD S.H.I.E.L.D. as a front and had been manipulating it, Tony either FailedASpotCheck - ''or'' FailedASpotCheck--''or'' HYDRA put failsafes in place in case Tony tried such a move. Or there was simply so much information that he had no way of sifting through all of it to pick out the discrepancies.]]
** In the 1998 Nick Fury movie, when [[spoiler:Alexander Pierce]] makes a mistake during a mission, Fury says that he is [[spoiler:either a traitor or an idiot.]] idiot]]. While [[spoiler:Pierce]] from that movie [[spoiler:wasn't a traitor]], the one in this movie is.
** When Steve [[spoiler:wakes in a hospital bed at the end of the film, this is the second time he's found himself in a similar situation after falling into water from a great height expecting to die. The first time this happened, he found the era-appropriate room was a lie and that he had actually been asleep for 67 years. If he hadn't seen Sam there with Marvin Gaye's Music/MarvinGaye's "Trouble Man"--a soundtrack from an era he missed--it wouldn't have been pretty.]]
** In ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'', Loki insulted [[ComicBook/BlackWidow Natasha]] because she works for the service of liars and killers. [[spoiler:It's ambiguous whether he referred to the [[UsefulNotes/MoscowCentre KGB]] (Natasha's previous employer) or SHIELD. S.H.I.E.L.D. If he was referring to SHIELD, S.H.I.E.L.D., then [[VillainHasAPoint he turns out to be right]], since HYDRA-infiltrated SHIELD S.H.I.E.L.D. are indeed trained manipulators and assassins.]]
** An out-of-universe example: ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' did not get BackedByThePentagon because of concerns about the fact that SHIELD S.H.I.E.L.D. was subordinate to the World Security Council, an entity that almost nothing was known about about, and so the Pentagon wanted nothing to do with the movie. Come this film, [[spoiler: those [[spoiler:those concerns were proven absolutely right as SHIELD S.H.I.E.L.D. is revealed to be basically a reborn HYDRA.]]



** A common fan reaction to [[spoiler:computerized Arnim Zola's death, on the grounds that BrainUploading equals DeathIsCheap, which is his standard tactic in the comics.]]
** Some fans are hoping this is the case with [[spoiler: Agent Sitwell]], in part due to some ambiguous tweets from his actor, with messages like [[spoiler: Fury Always Has a Plan]].

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** A common fan reaction to [[spoiler:computerized Arnim Zola's death, on the grounds that BrainUploading equals DeathIsCheap, which is his standard tactic in the comics.]]
comics]].
** Some fans are hoping this is the case with [[spoiler: Agent [[spoiler:Agent Sitwell]], in part due to some ambiguous tweets from his actor, with messages like [[spoiler: Fury [[spoiler:Fury Always Has a Plan]].



** In the movie, Pierce wanted Iron Man to appear at his niece's birthday party. In real life, Robert Downey, Jr. invited a bunch of kids to his birthday party to watch this very movie. Metawise, it doubles as an ActorAllusion, since Downey, Jr. actually did a surprise appearance at Jamie Foxx's daughter's fifth birthday party--which was ''Film/IronMan''-themed, to boot.
** In the early 80s, John Byrne drew Cap as [[ComicBookFantasyCasting resembling Robert Redford]], and Redford in his younger days does have a passing resemblance to Chris Evans. 33 years later, the actor appears here, in a major role. Even funnier is that [[spoiler: Redford plays ''the villain'' here]].

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** In the movie, Pierce wanted Iron Man to appear at his niece's birthday party. In real life, Robert Downey, Jr. Creator/RobertDowneyJr invited a bunch of kids to his birthday party to watch this very movie. Metawise, it doubles as an ActorAllusion, since Downey, Jr. actually did a surprise appearance at Jamie Foxx's Creator/JamieFoxx's daughter's fifth birthday party--which was ''Film/IronMan''-themed, to boot.
** In the early 80s, John Byrne '80s, Creator/JohnByrne drew Cap as [[ComicBookFantasyCasting resembling Robert Redford]], and Redford in his younger days does have a passing resemblance to Chris Evans. 33 years later, the actor appears here, in a major role. Even funnier is that [[spoiler: Redford [[spoiler:Redford plays ''the villain'' here]].



** Scarlett Johansson's breakout role was 1998's ''Film/TheHorseWhisperer'' opposite star/director Robert Redford, where the two had a generational-gap friendship. Now [[spoiler: they face off as enemies]].

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** Scarlett Johansson's Creator/ScarlettJohansson's breakout role was 1998's ''Film/TheHorseWhisperer'' opposite star/director Robert Redford, Creator/RobertRedford, where the two had a generational-gap friendship. Now [[spoiler: they [[spoiler:they face off as enemies]].



** Sam tells Fury: "I do what [Steve] does, just slower." In the comics less than a year later, [[spoiler:Sam was given the mantle of Captain America after Steve loses his powers.]]
** In the UK release, ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' is on Steve's To-Do List. Creator/BenedictCumberbatch would portray the titular character in ''Film/DoctorStrange2016'' movie. [[Film/IronMan Tony Stark]] actor Creator/RobertDowneyJr played Sherlock Holmes in the Creator/GuyRitchie-[[Film/SherlockHolmes directed]] [[Film/SherlockHolmesAGameOfShadows films]]; and both Tony Stark and Stephen Strange are [[spoiler:among HYDRA's targets for Project Insight]]. So it looks like [[spoiler:HYDRA]] is so unwilling to let Steve watch Sherlock Holmes.
** In 2002, a book about possible Nazi influence on the US government was released by Glen Yeadon. This book was titled [[spoiler: "The Nazi Hydra in America"]].

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** Sam tells Fury: Fury, "I do what [Steve] does, just slower." In the comics less than a year later, [[spoiler:Sam was given the mantle of Captain America after Steve loses his powers.]]
powers]].
** In the UK release, ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' is on Steve's To-Do List. Creator/BenedictCumberbatch would portray the titular character in the ''Film/DoctorStrange2016'' movie. [[Film/IronMan Tony Stark]] actor Creator/RobertDowneyJr played Sherlock Holmes in the Creator/GuyRitchie-[[Film/SherlockHolmes Creator/GuyRitchie–[[Film/SherlockHolmes directed]] [[Film/SherlockHolmesAGameOfShadows films]]; and both Tony Stark and Stephen Strange are [[spoiler:among HYDRA's targets for Project Insight]]. So it looks like [[spoiler:HYDRA]] is so unwilling to let Steve watch Sherlock Holmes.
** In 2002, a book about possible Nazi influence on the US government was released by Glen Yeadon. This book was titled [[spoiler: "The [[spoiler:"The Nazi Hydra in America"]].



** The sheer amount of HoYay between Steve and Bucky/[[spoiler:The Winter Soldier]] is so huge that Sharon doesn't even seem to be Steve's love interest (and not just because of how OutOfFocus she is during the movie). The fact that Cap spends the entire movie turning down Natasha's offers to set him up on dates, saying he's looking for someone with "similar life experiences", only increases the factor.
** Sam/Steve enjoys widespread popularity. Their first meeting highly resembles a MeetCute, with the coincidental meeting, playful bantering, and it ending with Sam asking to see Steve again. For his part, Steve's the one who gets Sam's attention and seeks him out, either when he's in danger or just because (after the therapy meeting). For ''his'' part, Sam immediately helps Steve with his darker thoughts and puts himself in harm's way when Steve needs help. More than a few netizens have commented that Sam takes all of the usual superhero love interest duties: he's unwaveringly loyal, he gets Steve to open up emotionally, and is generally a nurturing person. [[spoiler: And when Steve is hospitalized at the end, Sam is the one watching him sleep at his bedside, waiting for him to wake up. He even put on a Marvin Gaye album.]]

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** The sheer amount of HoYay between Steve and Bucky/[[spoiler:The Bucky/[[spoiler:the Winter Soldier]] is so huge that Sharon doesn't even seem to be Steve's love interest (and not just because of how OutOfFocus she is during the movie). The fact that Cap spends the entire movie turning down Natasha's offers to set him up on dates, saying he's looking for someone with "similar life experiences", only increases the factor.
** Sam/Steve enjoys widespread popularity. Their first meeting highly resembles a MeetCute, with the coincidental meeting, playful bantering, and it ending with Sam asking to see Steve again. For his part, Steve's the one who gets Sam's attention and seeks him out, either when he's in danger or just because (after the therapy meeting). For ''his'' part, Sam immediately helps Steve with his darker thoughts and puts himself in harm's way when Steve needs help. More than a few netizens have commented that Sam takes all of the usual superhero love interest duties: he's unwaveringly loyal, he gets Steve to open up emotionally, and is generally a nurturing person. [[spoiler: And [[spoiler:And when Steve is hospitalized at the end, Sam is the one watching him sleep at his bedside, waiting for him to wake up. He even put on a Marvin Gaye album.]]



** TheReveal of the Winter Soldier's identity as Bucky Barnes was an 8-year-old spoiler for comics readers by the time the ''Winter Soldier'' film came out, a 2-year-old spoiler for viewers of ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'', and a 7-year-old spoiler for anyone who happened to play ''VideoGame/MarvelUltimateAlliance''. The anticipation of the film is a result of this, wherein the drama surrounding this is the main reason why fans want to see the film. By the final month before release, even Marvel gave up trying to hide it, even saying that the tension of the Winter Soldier's identity doesn't come from the audience not knowing, [[InternalReveal but from Cap not knowing.]] Previews from both the ''Thor: The Dark World'' Blu-Ray and an MCU TV special go ahead and spill exactly who the Winter Soldier is. The ''Winter Soldier'' Blu-Ray case even has a big picture of him without his mask on the back cover.
** To a lesser extent, SHIELD agent Brock Rumlow working for HYDRA, for anyone familiar with his identity in the comics.

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** TheReveal of the Winter Soldier's identity as Bucky Barnes was an 8-year-old spoiler for comics readers by the time the ''Winter Soldier'' film came out, a 2-year-old spoiler for viewers of ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'', and a 7-year-old spoiler for anyone who happened to play ''VideoGame/MarvelUltimateAlliance''. The anticipation of the film is a result of this, wherein the drama surrounding this is the main reason why fans want to see the film. By the final month before release, even Marvel gave up trying to hide it, even saying that the tension of the Winter Soldier's identity doesn't come from the audience not knowing, [[InternalReveal but from Cap not knowing.]] Previews from both the ''Thor: The Dark World'' ''Film/ThorTheDarkWorld'' Blu-Ray and an MCU TV special go ahead and spill exactly who the Winter Soldier is. The ''Winter Soldier'' Blu-Ray case even has a big picture of him without his mask on the back cover.
** To a lesser extent, SHIELD S.H.I.E.L.D. agent Brock Rumlow working for HYDRA, for anyone familiar with his identity in the comics.



* JustHereForGodzilla: For many comic book fans, the primary reason to watch the movie was the conflict between Cap and the Winter Soldier -- or more specifically, the revelation of the Winter Soldier's identity and Cap's reaction to it. Marvel was not blind to this, and took advantage of it by having most of the promotion of the movie focused on Cap and the Winter Soldier. [[spoiler:It also did a great job of hiding the mid-plot twist and true conflict of the movie -- that HYDRA had infiltrated S.H.I.E.L.D. at its very creation, and therefore the organization is too corrupt to continue on and must be dissolved permanently.]]
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: The movie has us believe many characters are dead/will die throughout the film, but many fans are savvy enough to figure out it wasn't going to happen. [[spoiler:Nick Fury]] is the biggest example, though it was a close run thing. On the other hand, they really ''did'' go through with [[spoiler:the complete dismantling of SHIELD.]]

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* JustHereForGodzilla: For many comic book fans, the primary reason to watch the movie was the conflict between Cap and the Winter Soldier -- or Soldier--or more specifically, the revelation of the Winter Soldier's identity and Cap's reaction to it. Marvel was not blind to this, and took advantage of it by having most of the promotion of the movie focused on Cap and the Winter Soldier. [[spoiler:It also did a great job of hiding the mid-plot twist and true conflict of the movie -- that movie--that HYDRA had infiltrated S.H.I.E.L.D. at its very creation, and therefore the organization is too corrupt to continue on and must be dissolved permanently.]]
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: The movie has us believe many characters are dead/will die throughout the film, but many fans are savvy enough to figure out it wasn't going to happen. [[spoiler:Nick Fury]] is the biggest example, though it was a close run thing. On the other hand, they really ''did'' go through with [[spoiler:the complete dismantling of SHIELD.S.H.I.E.L.D.]]



** As for Fury, [[spoiler:he [[OutGambitted Out Gambits]] Pierce by ''faking'' his death because he knows S.H.I.E.L.D. is compromised and he can trust no one, goes underground with Maria Hill to find out what's going on, finds out what Pierce is planning, and sets up a plan to stop him complete with Fury revealing himself to Pierce to help Natasha expose him to the world. Since he knew that Pierce would delete his security overrides after his "death", Fury secretly created a hidden override using the retinal scan of his ''blind'' eye.]]

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** As for Fury, [[spoiler:he [[OutGambitted Out Gambits]] Out-Gambits]] Pierce by ''faking'' his death because he knows S.H.I.E.L.D. is compromised and he can trust no one, goes underground with Maria Hill to find out what's going on, finds out what Pierce is planning, and sets up a plan to stop him him, complete with Fury revealing himself to Pierce to help Natasha expose him to the world. Since he knew that Pierce would delete his security overrides after his "death", Fury secretly created a hidden override using the retinal scan of his ''blind'' eye.]]



** "The Helicarrier's becoming the [[Franchise/StarTrek Enterprise]]," in a reference to how the thing keeps seeming to die whenever we see it.

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** "The Helicarrier's becoming the [[Franchise/StarTrek Enterprise]]," ''[[Franchise/StarTrek Enterprise]]''," in a reference to how the thing keeps seeming to die whenever we see it.



** Crossing over with ''Film/TeamAmericaWorldPolice'', the first chase scene between Steve and the Winter Soldier is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZsmCBCjJns replaced]] with "America! Fuck Yeah!" as Steve charges through a building - then it abruptly cuts to the "Bummer Remix" when Steve loses track of him.

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** Crossing over with ''Film/TeamAmericaWorldPolice'', the first chase scene between Steve and the Winter Soldier is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZsmCBCjJns replaced]] with "America! Fuck Yeah!" as Steve charges through a building - then building--then it abruptly cuts to the "Bummer Remix" when Steve loses track of him.



** "Winter Sol-nyaa".[[note]]A pun on his Japanese spelling ウィンター・ソルジャー (''Uintaa Sorujyaa'') and ニャー (''nyaa''/"meow").[[/note]] It's popular in East Asian fandoms to interpret the Winter Soldier as a particularly surly [[AnimalMotifs cat]] or CatBoy due to a combination of traits such as the character's vaguely [[CatSmile feline]] appearance and [[GuyLiner resemblance]] to Grumpy Cat, and a host of amusing cat stereotypes such as [[spoiler: Alexander Pierce]] offering him [[ArtisticLicenseAnimalCare milk]] and his ThreePointLanding on the highway resembling a cat clawing the ground.
** The scene of [[spoiler: Bucky]] wailing on Steve who was not fighting back has been compared to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G8V00SkTvY a particular scene]] in the [[{{Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie}} first Pokemon movie]], which eventually resulted in people posting [[http://postimg.org/image/cmmmi7akx/ gifs of the attacking Pikachu clone in Winter Soldier costume and the real one in Cap's costume]]

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** "Winter Sol-nyaa".[[note]]A pun on his Japanese spelling ウィンター・ソルジャー (''Uintaa Sorujyaa'') and ニャー (''nyaa''/"meow").[[/note]] It's popular in East Asian fandoms to interpret the Winter Soldier as a particularly surly [[AnimalMotifs cat]] or CatBoy due to a combination of traits such as the character's vaguely [[CatSmile feline]] appearance and [[GuyLiner resemblance]] to Grumpy Cat, and a host of amusing cat stereotypes such as [[spoiler: Alexander [[spoiler:Alexander Pierce]] offering him [[ArtisticLicenseAnimalCare milk]] and his ThreePointLanding on the highway resembling a cat clawing the ground.
** The scene of [[spoiler: Bucky]] [[spoiler:Bucky]] wailing on Steve who was not fighting back has been compared to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G8V00SkTvY a particular scene]] in the [[{{Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie}} first Pokemon Pokémon movie]], which eventually resulted in people posting [[http://postimg.org/image/cmmmi7akx/ gifs of the attacking Pikachu clone in Winter Soldier costume and the real one in Cap's costume]]costume]].



** [[spoiler:Arnim Zola]] is revealed to have crossed the line years ago by torturing [[spoiler:several members of Bucky's division, including Bucky himself]]. If that particular line crossing isn't bad enough, [[spoiler:he helped rebuild HYDRA as SHIELD and created an algorithm to target any and all potential enemies, which would have killed at least twenty million people, according to his calculations]].

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** [[spoiler:Arnim Zola]] is revealed to have crossed the line years ago by torturing [[spoiler:several members of Bucky's division, including Bucky himself]]. If that particular line crossing isn't bad enough, [[spoiler:he helped rebuild HYDRA as SHIELD S.H.I.E.L.D. and created an algorithm to target any and all potential enemies, which would have killed at least twenty million people, according to his calculations]].



** The cut to [[EndingFatigue Falcon and Rumlow still fighting after the rest of the climax has been resolved.]]

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** The cut to [[EndingFatigue Falcon and Rumlow still fighting after the rest of the climax has been resolved.]]resolved]].



** [[spoiler: During the climatic battle, Captain America tries to get the Winter Silder to remember his life as Bucky. The Winter Soldier yells "[[BigShutUp Shut up!]]" as if he were a whiny teenager.]]

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** [[spoiler: During the climatic battle, Captain America tries to get [[spoiler:get the Winter Silder Soldier to remember his life as Bucky. The Winter Soldier yells "[[BigShutUp Shut up!]]" as if he were a whiny teenager.]]



* NarmCharm: [[Film/IronMan2 Senator Stern]]'s cameo, where he hugs Jasper Sitwell and [[spoiler:whispers "Hail HYDRA" to him.]] It's sorta silly in how [[CardCarryingVillain obviously villainous]] it is, and causes FridgeLogic about if [[spoiler:HYDRA's members]] do this all the time, but at the same time it's unexpected, creepy, and can also raise fear in [[spoiler:realizing just how far HYDRA has spread]]. [[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/hail-hydra Even the parodies of it]] manage to be both funny and creepy.
* NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize: [[spoiler:Creator/RobertRedford as Alexander Pierce is the BigBad]].
* OneSceneWonder
** [[spoiler:Arnim Zola's computerized self]] appears for no more than ten minutes, yet in that time he manages to establish himself as highly creepy and a surprisingly capable [[TheChessmaster Chessmaster]] who's managed to [[spoiler:resurrect [=HYDRA=] from within S.H.I.E.L.D. itself]].

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* NarmCharm: [[Film/IronMan2 Senator Stern]]'s cameo, where he hugs Jasper Sitwell and [[spoiler:whispers "Hail HYDRA" to him.]] him]]. It's sorta silly in how [[CardCarryingVillain obviously villainous]] it is, and causes FridgeLogic about if [[spoiler:HYDRA's members]] do this all the time, but at the same time it's unexpected, creepy, and can also raise fear in [[spoiler:realizing just how far HYDRA has spread]]. [[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/hail-hydra Even the parodies of it]] manage to be both funny and creepy.
* NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize: [[spoiler:Creator/RobertRedford as Alexander Pierce is the BigBad]].
BigBad.]]
* OneSceneWonder
OneSceneWonder:
** [[spoiler:Arnim Zola's computerized self]] appears for no more than ten minutes, yet in that time he manages to establish himself as highly creepy and a surprisingly capable [[TheChessmaster Chessmaster]] who's managed to [[spoiler:resurrect [=HYDRA=] HYDRA from within S.H.I.E.L.D. itself]].



* OneTrueThreesome: One True ''Four''some - Steve/Sam/Natasha/Bucky hit the ground running.

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* OneTrueThreesome: One True ''Four''some - Steve/Sam/Natasha/Bucky ''Four''some--Steve/Sam/Natasha/Bucky hit the ground running.



** [[spoiler: HYDRA's been hiding in SHIELD since its very creation]], influencing world events under the justification of protecting people. They had a hand in the death of Howard Stark and his wife. [[spoiler:The non HYDRA members of SHIELD]] had no idea at all. Not even Coulson realized his close friend was a mole.

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** [[spoiler: HYDRA's been hiding in SHIELD S.H.I.E.L.D. since its very creation]], influencing world events under the justification of protecting people. They had a hand in the death of Howard Stark and his wife. [[spoiler:The non HYDRA non-HYDRA members of SHIELD]] S.H.I.E.L.D.]] had no idea at all. Not even Coulson realized his close friend was a mole.



** Much of this movie's plot was [[RippedFromTheHeadlines taken from real-life government controversies]] such as drone strikes and NSA spying, and plays up people's real-life fears about them to their (il)logical conclusion, [[spoiler: namely that the information being collected will ultimately be used to assassinate millions of people, the vast majority of whom have no links to terrorist organizations whatsoever.]]
** After TheReveal, viewers of ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' started to ask themselves [[spoiler: if any of the SHIELD agents they'd come to know and love over the course of the first season were actually HYDRA agents.]] The paranoia there turned out to be justified, as [[spoiler: Grant Ward was revealed as TheMole in the following episode.]]
** Who can say that there's not such an organization like [[spoiler: HYDRA]] with similar goals and methods in RealLife?
* RewatchBonus: [[spoiler: TheReveal that HYDRA has been infiltrating SHIELD since its inception causes ''loads'' of past scenes and events involving the organization to take on a new meaning throughout the whole of the MCU. For instance, knowing that Senator Stern is a HYDRA member causes his insistence on Tony Stark giving up the Iron Man armor back in ''Film/IronMan2'' to come off less as JerkassHasAPoint and more as him trying to give HYDRA some Iron Man suits to Curb Stomp their enemies with. In another example, the revelation that HYDRA engineered the death of Tony Stark's father makes you wonder if there's a remote chance Obadiah Stane in ''Film/IronMan1'' was working for HYDRA.]]
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Black Widow, who was always somewhat of a BaseBreaker in ''Film/IronMan2'' and ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''. She became much more well-received due to being [[{{Deuteragonist}} much more involved in the plot]], downplaying her MsFanservice aspect (which was criticized in her previous appearances), and ''not'' being surrounded with superhuman characters who cause her to become OvershadowedByAwesome. Although this opinion isn't shared by professional critics (see Critical Dissonance). Really, it's her appearance in this movie that led to the InternetBackdraft with the announcement that there isn't any Black Widow solo movie planned.

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** Much of this movie's plot was [[RippedFromTheHeadlines taken from real-life government controversies]] such as drone strikes and NSA spying, and plays up people's real-life fears about them to their (il)logical conclusion, [[spoiler: namely [[spoiler:namely that the information being collected will ultimately be used to assassinate millions of people, the vast majority of whom have no links to terrorist organizations whatsoever.]]
whatsoever]].
** After TheReveal, viewers of ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' started to ask themselves [[spoiler: if [[spoiler:if any of the SHIELD S.H.I.E.L.D. agents they'd come to know and love over the course of the first season were actually HYDRA agents.]] The paranoia there turned out to be justified, as [[spoiler: Grant [[spoiler:Grant Ward was revealed as TheMole in the following episode.]]
episode]].
** Who can say that there's not such an organization like [[spoiler: HYDRA]] [[spoiler:HYDRA]] with similar goals and methods in RealLife?
* RewatchBonus: [[spoiler: TheReveal [[spoiler:TheReveal that HYDRA has been infiltrating SHIELD S.H.I.E.L.D. since its inception causes ''loads'' of past scenes and events involving the organization to take on a new meaning throughout the whole of the MCU. For instance, knowing that Senator Stern is a HYDRA member causes his insistence on Tony Stark giving up the Iron Man armor back in ''Film/IronMan2'' to come off less as JerkassHasAPoint and more as him trying to give HYDRA some Iron Man suits to Curb Stomp their enemies with. In another example, the revelation that HYDRA engineered the death of Tony Stark's father makes you wonder if there's a remote chance Obadiah Stane in ''Film/IronMan1'' was working for HYDRA.]]
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Black Widow, who was always somewhat of a BaseBreaker in ''Film/IronMan2'' and ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''. She became much more well-received due to being [[{{Deuteragonist}} much more involved in the plot]], downplaying her MsFanservice aspect (which was criticized in her previous appearances), and ''not'' being surrounded with superhuman characters who cause her to become OvershadowedByAwesome. Although this opinion isn't shared by professional critics (see Critical Dissonance).CriticalDissonance). Really, it's her appearance in this movie that led to the InternetBackdraft with the announcement that there isn't any Black Widow solo movie planned.



** Due to the massive amounts of HoYay between Steve and Bucky, the pairing has somewhat begun to unseat the popularity of the widespread post-Avengers Steve/Tony ship, to some Tumblr discontent.
** Another one is brewing between the Steve/Tony shippers and the Sam/Steve shippers: the former were not happy that Steve went to Sam for help despite knowing him for such a short time instead of Tony, and the implication that Sam [[spoiler:could have been HYDRA]] rankled the latter immensely. Of course, given he had a limited time window and Sam was already in Washington DC, there's the matter of practicality that helps with this case.

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** Due to the massive amounts of HoYay between Steve and Bucky, the pairing has somewhat begun to unseat the popularity of the widespread post-Avengers post-''Avengers'' Steve/Tony ship, to some Tumblr discontent.
** Another one is brewing between the Steve/Tony shippers and the Sam/Steve shippers: the former were not happy that Steve went to Sam for help despite knowing him for such a short time instead of Tony, and the implication that Sam [[spoiler:could have been HYDRA]] rankled the latter immensely. Of course, given he had a limited time window and Sam was already in Washington DC, Washington, D.C., there's the matter of practicality that helps with this case.



** Likewise, Falcon's poster gives him a massive chest with disproportionately tiny legs. Comparisons are drawn to the work of Rob Liefield.
** In the scene where Cap meets with Peggy, the effects used to age Hayley Atwell make her mouth slide around and change size unnaturally. They also do nothing to change her voice, meaning that her entire conversation with Steve is jarring as a young woman's voice comes out of an "old" woman's mouth.

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** Likewise, Falcon's poster gives him a massive chest with disproportionately tiny legs. Comparisons are drawn to the work of Rob Liefield.
Creator/RobLiefield.
** In the scene where Cap meets with Peggy, the effects used to age Hayley Atwell Creator/HayleyAtwell make her mouth slide around and change size unnaturally. They also do nothing to change her voice, meaning that her entire conversation with Steve is jarring as a young woman's voice comes out of an "old" woman's mouth.



** Some fans believe that while still a central part of the plot, the titular Winter Soldier is very much OutOfFocus for most of the story. In the source material, the Winter Soldier's identity and background are subject to more scrutiny and tied more heavily into the plot. Almost all of it, including his ties to Black Widow, make no appearance in the film (though due to the MCU's time compression--Widow is ''much'' older in the comics--there might not even be a connection at all). The acting and design are dead on, but not much is done with the character in order to focus on [[spoiler:Alexander Pierce]]. Still, the film does a good job of setting up possible appearances for future installments, along with the possibility of exploring his past and character in more detail in the sequel. This would mirror the comic story, where [[spoiler: Bucky only has his memories restored via Cosmic Cube in the twelfth, final issue of the opening Winter Soldier epic, much like Bucky only realises who he is in the primary stinger of the film. Brubaker then spent the better part of his run with Bucky tentatively on the sidelines before the death of a certain character]]..

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** Some fans believe that while still a central part of the plot, the titular Winter Soldier is very much OutOfFocus for most of the story. In the source material, the Winter Soldier's identity and background are subject to more scrutiny and tied more heavily into the plot. Almost all of it, including his ties to Black Widow, make no appearance in the film (though due to the MCU's time compression--Widow is ''much'' older in the comics--there might not even be a connection at all). The acting and design are dead on, but not much is done with the character in order to focus on [[spoiler:Alexander Pierce]]. Still, the film does a good job of setting up possible appearances for future installments, along with the possibility of exploring his past and character in more detail in the sequel. This would mirror the comic story, where [[spoiler: Bucky [[spoiler:Bucky only has his memories restored via Cosmic Cube in the twelfth, final issue of the opening Winter Soldier epic, much like Bucky only realises who he is in the primary stinger of the film. Brubaker then spent the better part of his run with Bucky tentatively on the sidelines before the death of a certain character]]..character]].



* WhatAnIdiot: Steve [[spoiler:hides the flash drive containing SHIELD secrets of the highest priority in a vending machine, and apparently just counts on two people not wanting to buy gum. Or even just not noticing a silver flash drive among the pink gum packets. Black Widow didn't even have to put in much effort to discover it.]]

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* WhatAnIdiot: Steve [[spoiler:hides the flash drive containing SHIELD S.H.I.E.L.D. secrets of the highest priority in a vending machine, and apparently just counts on two people not wanting to buy gum. Or even just not noticing a silver flash drive among the pink gum packets. Black Widow didn't even have to put in much effort to discover it.]]



** Although the directors admit to drawing some inspiration from real life political controversies from TheNewTens such as drone strikes and UsefulNotes/BarackObama enacting preemptive strikes against potential threats to the US, they maintain that [[spoiler:the link between S.H.I.E.L.D.'s secrets being leaked on the internet and Edward Snowden's NSA leaks is an accidental one, as the film's story had already been solidified before that came onto the scene]]. Ed Brubaker has said the screenplay was inspired by [=WikiLeaks=], and the film winks at this, by showing Julian Assange as [[spoiler:either a member or (more likely) a pawn of HYDRA.]]

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** Although the directors admit to drawing some inspiration from real life political controversies from TheNewTens such as drone strikes and UsefulNotes/BarackObama enacting preemptive strikes against potential threats to the US, they maintain that [[spoiler:the link between S.H.I.E.L.D.'s secrets being leaked on the internet and Edward Snowden's NSA leaks is an accidental one, as the film's story had already been solidified before that came onto the scene]]. Ed Brubaker Creator/EdBrubaker has said the screenplay was inspired by [=WikiLeaks=], and the film winks at this, by showing Julian Assange as [[spoiler:either a member or (more likely) a pawn of HYDRA.]]HYDRA]].



* WinBackTheCrowd: While both ''Iron Man 3'' and ''Thor: The Dark World'' were box office hits, with the former grossing a billions dollars worldwide, they received mixed reviews from both critics and fans alike, leaving some people to wonder if the MCU had lost a step or two. Then ''Winter Soldier'' came along and renewed their faith.
* TheWoobie: Steve Rogers and the Winter Soldier. Two FishOutOfTemporalWater in a world where people everywhere are beginning to reject freedom and hand over control out of fear, both desperately alone, surrounded by people who simply cannot relate to their experiences. [[spoiler: And the Winter Soldier never ''asked'' to be used as a guinea pig, have his personality repeatedly erased with Nazi science, or be used as a hitman for the terrorist organization responsible as part of their plot to take over the world. To say nothing of being forced to try to kill his best friend in the process.]]

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* WinBackTheCrowd: While both ''Iron Man 3'' ''Film/IronMan3'' and ''Thor: The Dark World'' ''Film/ThorTheDarkWorld'' were box office hits, with the former grossing a billions billion dollars worldwide, they received mixed reviews from both critics and fans alike, leaving some people to wonder if the MCU had lost a step or two. Then ''Winter Soldier'' came along and renewed their faith.
* TheWoobie: Steve Rogers and the Winter Soldier. Two FishOutOfTemporalWater in a world where people everywhere are beginning to reject freedom and hand over control out of fear, both desperately alone, surrounded by people who simply cannot relate to their experiences. [[spoiler: And [[spoiler:And the Winter Soldier never ''asked'' to be used as a guinea pig, have his personality repeatedly erased with Nazi science, or be used as a hitman for the terrorist organization responsible as part of their plot to take over the world. To say nothing of being forced to try to kill his best friend in the process.]]
12th May '16 8:11:48 PM MyFinalEdits
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Nick Fury's sarcastic remark to a pair of [[spoiler: fake]] white cops who pull up beside his heavily armored car, meant to be a humorous allusion to the fact that even ''he'' has to deal with the possibility of a DWB, and the following sequence [[spoiler: where the "cops" converge on Fury and try to break into his heavily armoured car and kill him]] is entertaining for being action-packed and also because it's [[FourStarBadass Nick]] [[BaldOfAwesome Goddamn]] [[CrazyPrepared Fury]]. At the same time, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement certain real-life events]] make it a lot less fun in retrospect to watch [[spoiler: an army of white cops converging on and attempting to brutally murder a lone black man who, [[GatlingGood gatling gun aside]], has clearly sustained a broken arm and probably multiple internal injuries and is trying to escape from them.]]

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Nick Fury's sarcastic remark to a pair of [[spoiler: fake]] white cops who pull up beside his heavily armored car, meant to be a humorous allusion to the fact that even ''he'' has to deal with the possibility of a DWB, and the following sequence [[spoiler: where the "cops" converge on Fury and try to break into his heavily armoured car and kill him]] is entertaining for being action-packed and also because it's [[FourStarBadass Nick]] [[BaldOfAwesome Goddamn]] [[CrazyPrepared Fury]]. Nick Goddamn Fury. At the same time, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement certain real-life events]] occured after the movie's release make it a lot less fun in retrospect to watch [[spoiler: an army of white cops converging on and attempting to brutally murder a lone black man who, [[GatlingGood gatling gun aside]], has clearly sustained a broken arm and probably multiple internal injuries and is trying to escape from them.]]
11th May '16 6:43:53 PM Wolfstix
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Nick Fury's sarcastic remark to a pair of [[spoiler: fake]] white cops who pull up beside his heavily armored car, meant to be a humorous allusion to the fact that even ''he'' has to deal with the possibility of a DWB, and the following sequence [[spoiler: where the "cops" converge on Fury and try to break into his heavily armoured car and kill him]] is entertaining for being action-packed and also because it's [[FourStarBadass Nick]] [[BaldOfAwesome Goddamn]] [[CrazyPrepared Fury]]. At the same time, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement certain real-life events]] make it a lot less fun in retrospect to watch [[spoiler: an army of white cops converging on and attempting to brutally murder a lone black man who, [[GatlingGood gatling gun aside]], has clearly sustained a broken arm and probably multiple internal injuries and is trying to escape from them.]]
8th May '16 4:30:20 AM Morgenthaler
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* GeniusBonus: The movie makes a great visual metaphor at the end which could be a rebuttal to Harry Lime's famous "Dot" speech in TheThirdMan. Given said film was one of the earliest cynical spy films, this is entirely possible.

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* GeniusBonus: The movie makes a great visual metaphor at the end which could be a rebuttal to Harry Lime's famous "Dot" speech in TheThirdMan.''Film/TheThirdMan''. Given said film was one of the earliest cynical spy films, this is entirely possible.
30th Apr '16 8:12:28 PM MyFinalEdits
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** In the scene where Cap meets with Peggy, the effects used to age Hayley Atwell make her mouth slide around and change size unnaturally.
*** They also do nothing to change her voice, meaning that her entire conversation with Steve is jarring as a young woman's voice comes out of an "old" woman's mouth.

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** In the scene where Cap meets with Peggy, the effects used to age Hayley Atwell make her mouth slide around and change size unnaturally.
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unnaturally. They also do nothing to change her voice, meaning that her entire conversation with Steve is jarring as a young woman's voice comes out of an "old" woman's mouth.
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