History YMMV / CallOfJuarez

24th Aug '15 3:11:48 AM Morgenthaler
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: TurnedUpToEleven, thanks to how most people responded to the announcement of ''The Cartel'' as a [[NewOldWest modern western]], saying that the idea is simply ridiculous, apparently never having watched ''{{Justifed}}'' or ''RedHill''.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: TurnedUpToEleven, thanks to how most people responded to the announcement of ''The Cartel'' as a [[NewOldWest modern western]], saying that the idea is simply ridiculous, apparently never having watched ''{{Justifed}}'' ''Series/{{Justifed}}'' or ''RedHill''.''Film/RedHill''.
2nd Sep '14 5:17:14 AM ACW
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*CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Juan "Juarez" Mendoza]] is a ruthless Mexican bandit turned warlord. When the outlaw brothers, Thomas and Ray [=McCall=], arrive in Mexico, Juarez uses them to wipe out his rivals before betraying them to Confederate remnants they escaped from. When he bargains with an Apache tribe trying to fight the army, Juarez simply sells them defective rifles he has lying around, taking the money while letting the natives be slaughtered. Upon learning his mistress Marisa is in love with Thomas, Juarez tries to have the brothers' pacifist younger brother William killed and intends to throw Marisa into slavery in one of his brothels, sneering that she is a "lying, thieving, gold-loving whore." When Ray defeats him, Juarez resurfaces eighteen years later, hunting for a secret treasure he believes Marisa passed on to her son Billy. He kills Thomas and Marisa, lets his men rape his ex, and attempts to hunt down Billy by threatening the life of Billy's love interest Molly. When he fails to sway Billy ([[spoiler: who turns out to be his [[ArchnemesisDad own son]]]]) to his side, he attempts to [[ManOnFire burn him and Molly alive]]. At the end, when Juarez is beaten, he still manages to mortally wound Ray himself and attempts to murder Billy to the end before a dying Ray finds the strength to kill him once and for all. Brutal, greedy and treacherous, Juarez prides himself on his ability to come out on top no matter who he has to destroy.
2nd Aug '14 11:10:48 AM VeryMelon
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: TurnedUpToEleven, thanks to how most people responded to the announcement of ''The Cartel'' as a [[NewOldWest modern western]], saying that the idea is simply ridiculous, apparently never having watched ''{{Justifed}}'' or ''RedHill''.
* UnfortunateImplications: In ''The Cartel'', there is an achievement/trophy for killing a set number of enemies in a level entitled [[GangBangers "Gang Bang"]]. It has to be mentioned that all of the enemies in this level are black and this is the ''only'' time where you're given a "kill-quota" achievement in the game.
** According to [[http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/call-of-juarez-the-cartel this Extra Credits video]], that's only one of a long list of unfortunate implications, including either TheyJustDidntCare or CriticalResearchFailure in regards to the realities of HumanTrafficking near the border, [[HanlonsRazor depending on which idea you prefer]].[[note]]For the record, the game portrays it as American women being kidnapped then sold south of the border, while the reality is that it's Mexican women being kidnapped and sold in the US.[[/note]]

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: TurnedUpToEleven, thanks to how most people responded to the announcement of ''The Cartel'' as a [[NewOldWest modern western]], saying that the idea is simply ridiculous, apparently never having watched ''{{Justifed}}'' or ''RedHill''.
* UnfortunateImplications: In ''The Cartel'', there is an achievement/trophy for killing a set number of enemies in a level entitled [[GangBangers "Gang Bang"]]. It has to be mentioned that all of the enemies in this level are black and this is the ''only'' time where you're given a "kill-quota" achievement in the game.
** According to [[http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/call-of-juarez-the-cartel this Extra Credits video]], that's only one of a long list of unfortunate implications, including either TheyJustDidntCare or CriticalResearchFailure in regards to the realities of HumanTrafficking near the border, [[HanlonsRazor depending on which idea you prefer]].[[note]]For the record, the game portrays it as American women being kidnapped then sold south of the border, while the reality is that it's Mexican women being kidnapped and sold in the US.[[/note]]
''RedHill''.
24th Sep '13 5:23:14 PM shadowblack
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** According to [[http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/call-of-juarez-the-cartel this Extra Credits video]], that's only one of a long list of unfortunate implications, including either TheyJustDidntCare or CriticalResearchFailure in regards to the realities of HumanTrafficking near the border, [[HanlonsRazor depending on which idea you prefer]].[[hottip:*: For the record, the game portrays it as American women being kidnapped then sold south of the border, while the reality is that it's Mexican women being kidnapped and sold in the US.]]

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** According to [[http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/call-of-juarez-the-cartel this Extra Credits video]], that's only one of a long list of unfortunate implications, including either TheyJustDidntCare or CriticalResearchFailure in regards to the realities of HumanTrafficking near the border, [[HanlonsRazor depending on which idea you prefer]].[[hottip:*: For [[note]]For the record, the game portrays it as American women being kidnapped then sold south of the border, while the reality is that it's Mexican women being kidnapped and sold in the US.]][[/note]]
30th Jun '13 4:28:30 PM TVRulezAgain
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* CompleteMonster:
** [[spoiler:Juarez in the first two games.]]
** ''Cartel'' has Antonio Alvarez.
13th Jun '13 8:12:40 AM Prfnoff
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* TheScrappy[=/=]ScrappyLevel: Billy. Come on, admit it. You bought this game purely to play as ClintEastwood's character from ''PaleRider''.
** You'd be hard pressed to find players who dislike ''Billy''. His levels are understandable, being not quite as cathartic as Ray's, but Billy is one of the few decent characters in the setting willing to stick up for himself, and no less {{badass}} for it.
26th May '13 7:56:05 AM MagBas
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: TurnedUpToEleven, thanks to how most people responded to the announcement of ''The Cartel'' as a [[NewOldWest modern western]], saying that the idea is simply ridiculous, apparently never having watched ''{{Justifed}}'' or ''RedHill''. Of course once the game finally came out, the setting alone turned out to be [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible the least of the problems with it.]]

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: TurnedUpToEleven, thanks to how most people responded to the announcement of ''The Cartel'' as a [[NewOldWest modern western]], saying that the idea is simply ridiculous, apparently never having watched ''{{Justifed}}'' or ''RedHill''. Of course once the game finally came out, the setting alone turned out to be [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible the least of the problems with it.]]
25th May '13 7:55:01 PM randomthefox
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: TurnedUpToEleven, thanks to how most people responded to the announcement of ''The Cartel'' as a [[NewOldWest modern western]], saying that the idea is simply ridiculous, apparently never having watched ''{{Justifed}}'' or ''RedHill''. Most of them shut up when the trailer came out.
** And then opened back up when it took some major liberties with certain contemporary issues. While videogames in general aren't necessarily known for their adherence to historical realities, the fact that the makers developed anything approaching a realistic setting with a serious drama would imply some level of realism concerning the story.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: TurnedUpToEleven, thanks to how most people responded to the announcement of ''The Cartel'' as a [[NewOldWest modern western]], saying that the idea is simply ridiculous, apparently never having watched ''{{Justifed}}'' or ''RedHill''. Most of them shut up when Of course once the trailer game finally came out.
** And then opened back up when it took some major liberties with certain contemporary issues. While videogames in general aren't necessarily known for their adherence to historical realities,
out, the fact that the makers developed anything approaching a realistic setting alone turned out to be [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible the least of the problems with a serious drama would imply some level of realism concerning the story.it.]]
10th May '13 11:27:13 AM ironballs16
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** According to [[http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/call-of-juarez-the-cartel this Extra Credits video]], that's only one of a long list of unfortunate implications, including either TheyJustDidntCare or CriticalResearchFailure in regards to the realities of HumanTrafficking near the border, [[HanlonsRazor depending on which idea you prefer]].[[hottip:*: For the record, the game portrays it as [[WhereDaWhiteWomenAt American women]] being kidnapped then sold south of the border, while the reality is that it's Mexican women being kidnapped and sold in the US.]]

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** According to [[http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/call-of-juarez-the-cartel this Extra Credits video]], that's only one of a long list of unfortunate implications, including either TheyJustDidntCare or CriticalResearchFailure in regards to the realities of HumanTrafficking near the border, [[HanlonsRazor depending on which idea you prefer]].[[hottip:*: For the record, the game portrays it as [[WhereDaWhiteWomenAt American women]] women being kidnapped then sold south of the border, while the reality is that it's Mexican women being kidnapped and sold in the US.]]
10th May '13 11:26:55 AM ironballs16
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** According to [[http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/call-of-juarez-the-cartel this Extra Credits video]], that's only one of a long list of unfortunate implications, including either TheyJustDidntCare or CriticalResearchFailure in regards to the realities of HumanTrafficking near the border, [[HanlonsRazor depending on which idea you prefer]].[[hottip:Note: For the record, the game portrays it as [[WhereDaWhiteWomenAt American women]] being kidnapped then sold south of the border, while the reality is that it's Mexican women being kidnapped and sold in the US.]]

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** According to [[http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/call-of-juarez-the-cartel this Extra Credits video]], that's only one of a long list of unfortunate implications, including either TheyJustDidntCare or CriticalResearchFailure in regards to the realities of HumanTrafficking near the border, [[HanlonsRazor depending on which idea you prefer]].[[hottip:Note: [[hottip:*: For the record, the game portrays it as [[WhereDaWhiteWomenAt American women]] being kidnapped then sold south of the border, while the reality is that it's Mexican women being kidnapped and sold in the US.]]
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