History YMMV / CHIKARA

18th Apr '18 9:06:12 PM RavenBlack
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** Race Jaxon post-N_R_G, reinventing himself twice over (first as the narcissistic "That Young and Handsome", then as the egocentric artiste BLANK) to escape the CreatorsPet label the team had been tarred with. The latter persona quickly became highly regarded, especially after the introduction of his "creations", the Nouveau Aesthetic.

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** Race Jaxon post-N_R_G, reinventing himself twice over (first as the narcissistic "That Young and Handsome", then as the egocentric artiste BLANK) to escape the CreatorsPet label the team had been tarred with. The latter persona in particular quickly became highly regarded, especially after the introduction of his "creations", the Nouveau Aesthetic.
18th Apr '18 9:05:31 PM RavenBlack
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** Race Jaxon post-N_R_G, reinventing himself twice over (first as the narcissistic "That Young and Handsome", then as the egocentric artiste BLANK) to escape the CreatorsPet label the team had been tarred with. The latter persona quickly became highly regarded, especially after the introduction of his "creations", the Nouveau Aesthetic.
1st Feb '18 9:14:09 PM RavenBlack
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** The treatment of the tag division as a whole in recent Seasons, with some citing things like Moustache Mountain's defenseless reign, N_R_G's bad habit of defeating challengers in non-title contests when they were campeones (and later Los Ice Creams pointblocking via interference, the above-mentioned King of Trios incident, the "dispute" mentioned in the N_R_G entry under CreatorsPet below, too many one-and-done inactive teams, and there being months without a single tag match on the shows.

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** The treatment of the tag division as a whole in recent Seasons, with some citing things like Moustache Mountain's defenseless reign, N_R_G's bad habit of defeating challengers in non-title contests when they were campeones (and later Los Ice Creams pointblocking via interference, interference), the above-mentioned King of Trios incident, the "dispute" mentioned in the N_R_G entry under CreatorsPet below, too many one-and-done inactive teams, and there being months without a single tag match on the shows.
1st Feb '18 9:12:09 PM RavenBlack
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** The treatment of the tag division as a whole in recent Seasons, with some citing things like Moustache Mountain's defenseless reign, N_R_G's bad habit of defeating challengers in non-title contests when they were campeones, the above-mentioned King of Trios incident, the "dispute" mentioned in the N_R_G entry under CreatorsPet below, too many one-and-done inactive teams, and there being months without a single tag match on the shows.

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** The treatment of the tag division as a whole in recent Seasons, with some citing things like Moustache Mountain's defenseless reign, N_R_G's bad habit of defeating challengers in non-title contests when they were campeones, campeones (and later Los Ice Creams pointblocking via interference, the above-mentioned King of Trios incident, the "dispute" mentioned in the N_R_G entry under CreatorsPet below, too many one-and-done inactive teams, and there being months without a single tag match on the shows.



** Much like the firing of Joey Styles, the decision to trademark Jervis Cottonbelly and attempt to prevent the performer from using the gimmick outside CHIKARA resulted in a minor case of this, as Jervis had departed CHIKARA some time before the trademark was even filed and had become a very popular performer on the independent scene. [[spoiler: It was also seen as a very petty move on Mike Quackenbush's part, as there exists a well-documented animosity between him and Kevin Condron.]] It quickly died down after a name change and slight mask modifications turned Jervis Cottonbelly into Gentleman Jervis.

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** Much like the firing of Joey Styles, the decision to trademark Jervis Cottonbelly and attempt to prevent the performer from using the gimmick outside CHIKARA resulted in a minor case of this, as Jervis had departed CHIKARA some time before the trademark was even filed and had become a very popular performer on the independent scene. [[spoiler: It was also seen as a very petty move on Mike Quackenbush's part, as there exists a well-documented animosity between him and Kevin Condron.]] Condron. It quickly died down after a name change and slight mask modifications turned Jervis Cottonbelly into Gentleman Jervis.



*** Again in 2016! After disappearing in 2014 and spending the entirety of 2015 elsewhere, he made his return in mid-2016 to wrestle a handful of matches seemingly as a face...only to be suddenly turned heel and shoehorned into the Nazmaldun storyline as the Betrayer for no discernable reason, prompting mass groaning and facepalming. He then disappeared again at the beginning of 2017.

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*** Again in 2016! After disappearing in 2014 and spending the entirety of 2015 elsewhere, he made his return in mid-2016 to wrestle a handful of matches seemingly as a face...only to be suddenly turned heel and shoehorned into the Nazmaldun storyline as the Betrayer for no discernable reason, prompting mass groaning and facepalming. He then disappeared again at the beginning of 2017.2017, only returning for one appearance that year.



** [=UltraMantis=] Black's return from injury and subsequent Grand Championship victory. Many have pointed out that it would have been better for them to have happened in front of a live audience as opposed to being pre-taped then, in the case of the latter, sprung on people out of nowhere.

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** [=UltraMantis=] Black's return from injury and subsequent Grand Championship victory. Many have pointed out that it would have been better for them to have happened in front of a live audience as opposed to being pre-taped then, in the case of the latter, sprung on people out of nowhere. Most of his reign taking place during the pre-taped Season 17 then not having it for long after NPWD '17 only made it worse.
25th Oct '17 10:17:04 PM RavenBlack
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** Much like the firing of Joey Styles, the decision to trademark Jervis Cottonbelly and attempt to prevent the performer from using the gimmick outside CHIKARA resulted in a minor case of this, as Jervis had departed CHIKARA some time before the trademark was even filed and had become a very popular performer on the independent scene. [[spoiler: It was also seen as a very petty move on Mike Quackenbush's part, as there exists a well-documented animosity between him and Kevin Condron.]] It quickly died down after a name change and slight mask modifications turned Jervis Cottonbelly into Gentleman Jervis.
25th Oct '17 10:02:28 PM RavenBlack
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*** King of Trios 2017 drew fire for much of the same reasons as its predecessor. Another disqualification finish during the tournament, House Rot having to forfeit during the semifinals instead of the traditional random draw replacement, no CHIKARA teams in the finals (though some chose to classify winners House Strong Style as technically a CHIKARA team due to their history with the promotion), and the tag gauntlet being won by Campeones Los Ice Creams instead of deciding a challenger for their titles.

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*** King of Trios 2017 drew fire for much of the same reasons as its predecessor. Another disqualification finish during the tournament, House Rot having to forfeit during the semifinals instead of the traditional random draw replacement, no CHIKARA teams in the finals (though some chose to classify winners House Strong Style as technically a CHIKARA team due to their history with the promotion), and the tag gauntlet being won by Campeones Los Ice Creams instead of deciding a challenger for their titles. This was also a case of the fanbase breaking when King of Trios was first announced, as it took place in England as opposed to their usual Easton stop, though it was later explained that the Palmer Center was unavailable due to being remodeled.
25th Oct '17 10:00:19 PM RavenBlack
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*** King of Trios 2017 drew fire for much of the same reasons as its predecessor. Another disqualification finish during the tournament, House Rot having to forfeit during the semifinals instead of the traditional random draw replacement, no CHIKARA teams in the finals (though some chose to classify winners House Strong Style as technically a CHIKARA team due to their history with the promotion), and the tag gauntlet being won by Campeones Los Ice Creams instead of deciding a challenger for their titles.


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** Season Eighteen, especially the latter half, began to draw criticism from fans due to roster members leaving left and right and not much of anything in the way of storyline development happening on the shows themselves.
2nd Sep '17 10:48:33 PM RavenBlack
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** The Chikara fanbase, over the ''Ashes'' angle and the closure of Chikara. The fans hardcore enough to want to participate in the angle - show up to the rallies, buy Chikarmy T-shirts, etc - loved it. Casual fans didn't see the point. "Mediumcore" fans, however, loathed and detested the angle for depriving them of actual wrestling matches, as did some hardcore fans who didn't happen to live in the northeastern USA and were thus unable to physically participate.

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** The Chikara fanbase, over the ''Ashes'' angle and the closure of Chikara. The fans hardcore enough to want to participate in the angle - show up to the rallies, buy Chikarmy T-shirts, etc - loved it. Casual fans didn't see the point. "Mediumcore" fans, however, loathed and detested the angle for depriving them of actual wrestling matches, as did some hardcore fans who didn't happen to live in the northeastern USA and were thus unable to physically participate. While active fans tried to help bridge the gap via livestreams and social media documenting the events, there was not much done on the CHIKARA side of things to try to include everyone.



** The treatment of the tag division as a whole in recent Seasons, with some citing things like Moustache Mountain's defenseless reign, N_R_G's bad habit of defeating challengers in non-title contests when they were campeones, the above-mentioned King of Trios incident, too many one-and-done inactive teams, and there being months without a single tag match on the shows.

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** The treatment of the tag division as a whole in recent Seasons, with some citing things like Moustache Mountain's defenseless reign, N_R_G's bad habit of defeating challengers in non-title contests when they were campeones, the above-mentioned King of Trios incident, the "dispute" mentioned in the N_R_G entry under CreatorsPet below, too many one-and-done inactive teams, and there being months without a single tag match on the shows.



*** Made even worse by Quackenbush "disputing" N_R_G's title loss via Golden Opportunity and stripping perennial favorites Los Ice Creams of the Campeonatos de Parejas. Many fans rallied behind Los Ice Creams, citing that Quackenbush had never specified that the Golden Opportunity could not be used to take the titles in one fall and speculating if he would've "disputed" the change if it had been a team other than N_R_G on the receiving end. Fortunately, their strong booking abated after this, as they were first eliminated from the match that resulted from the "dispute", then began to argue amongst themselves before breaking up at the beginning of 2017.

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*** Made even worse by Quackenbush "disputing" N_R_G's title loss via Golden Opportunity and stripping perennial favorites Los Ice Creams of the Campeonatos de Parejas. Many fans rallied behind Los Ice Creams, citing that Quackenbush had never specified that the Golden Opportunity could not be used to take the titles in one fall and speculating if he would've "disputed" the change if it had been a team other than N_R_G on the receiving end. Fortunately, their strong booking abated after this, as they were first eliminated from the match that resulted from the "dispute", then began to argue amongst themselves before breaking up at the beginning of 2017.2017 and eventually feuding.
29th May '17 4:35:22 AM RavenBlack
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** The treatment of the tag division as a whole in recent Seasons, with some citing things like Moustache Mountain's defenseless reign, N_R_G's bad habit of defeating challengers in non-title contests when they were campeones, the above-mentioned King of Trios incident, too many one-and-done inactive teams, and there being months without a single tag match on the shows.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [=UltraMantis=] Black's return from injury and subsequent Grand Championship victory. Many have pointed out that it would have been better for them to have happened in front of a live audience as opposed to being pre-taped then, in the case of the latter, sprung on people out of nowhere.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
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[=UltraMantis=] Black's return from injury and subsequent Grand Championship victory. Many have pointed out that it would have been better for them to have happened in front of a live audience as opposed to being pre-taped then, in the case of the latter, sprung on people out of nowhere.nowhere.
** Moustache Mountain being built up to win the [=CdP=]. Many were already very annoyed by Los Ice Creams being stripped of the titles (see N_R_G's entry under CreatorsPet above for more details), and it became even worse when the Mountain proceeded to be in-absentia champs, with them not defending their titles for the whole of their reign thanks to a combination of there being no challengers (due to the general poor state of the tag division as a whole) and them being signed by Wrestling/{{WWE}}. They were eventually stripped of the titles as well.
28th May '17 4:42:35 AM RavenBlack
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* BrokenBase: The Chikara fanbase, over the ''Ashes'' angle and the closure of Chikara. The fans hardcore enough to want to participate in the angle - show up to the rallies, buy Chikarmy T-shirts, etc - loved it. Casual fans didn't see the point. "Mediumcore" fans, however, loathed and detested the angle for depriving them of actual wrestling matches, as did some hardcore fans who didn't happen to live in the northeastern USA and were thus unable to physically participate.

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* BrokenBase: BrokenBase:
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The Chikara fanbase, over the ''Ashes'' angle and the closure of Chikara. The fans hardcore enough to want to participate in the angle - show up to the rallies, buy Chikarmy T-shirts, etc - loved it. Casual fans didn't see the point. "Mediumcore" fans, however, loathed and detested the angle for depriving them of actual wrestling matches, as did some hardcore fans who didn't happen to live in the northeastern USA and were thus unable to physically participate.
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