History YMMV / Bionicle

3rd Jan '17 9:03:13 AM Noah1
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** Vakama's out-of-nowhere recklessness during Web of Shadows. Is it just an OutOfCharacterMoment, or did it stem from the belief that had he been a more resolute and decisive Toa, Lhikan would still be alive and the Great Cataclysm wouldn't have happened, causing him to misguidedly overcompensate?



** As the majority of the hate towards the latter years of the toys was due to the infamous "Inika Build", the reboot series had it's toys intentionally designed as a throwback to the original 2001 Toas, complete with loose-fitting masks and gear functions that swung the arms. However they also managed to keep the unique body builds as well as finding a way to preserve posability (mostly with friction pegs to stop the arms from swinging on their own) of the newer sets.

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** As the majority of the hate towards the latter years of the toys was due to the infamous "Inika Build", the reboot series had it's toys intentionally designed as a throwback to the original 2001 Toas, complete with loose-fitting easily-detached masks and gear functions that swung the arms. However they also managed to keep the unique body builds as well as finding a way to preserve posability (mostly with friction pegs to stop the arms from swinging on their own) of the newer sets.



** Makuta has gotten a lot respect in some circles for being [[spoiler: one of few {{Evil Overlord}}s whose EvilPlan actually worked.]]



** The squid shooters from 2007 were extremely difficult to trigger.
** Shooter weapons in general starting with the Cordak Blasters. Prior to the squid shooters, the weapons were at least comprised of pieces you'd assemble and had a fairly ingenious way of firing (even the Squid Shooters qualified). Fast forward to the Toa Mahri and the shooters became large and clunky, as well as housing special mechanisms within themselves rather than let you build them. Lego later caught onto this and the Nynrah Ghost Blasters returned to being buildable shooter weapons, while the Thornax shooters were even more simplified.

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** ScrappyWeapon: The squid shooters from 2007 were extremely difficult to trigger.
** *** Shooter weapons in general starting with the Cordak Blasters. Prior to the squid shooters, the weapons were at least comprised of pieces you'd assemble and had a fairly ingenious way of firing (even the Squid Shooters qualified). Fast forward to the Toa Mahri and the shooters became large and clunky, as well as housing special mechanisms within themselves rather than let you build them. Lego later caught onto this and the Nynrah Ghost Blasters returned to being buildable shooter weapons, while the Thornax shooters were even more simplified.



** Besides [[EvilIsSexy Roodaka]], nobody has any TertiarySexualCharacteristics, so I dare you to ID one of the girls without resorting to the color-coding - and even that's hardly foolproof (Vezok, Takadox, Gorast, Vamprah, etc.).

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** Besides [[EvilIsSexy Roodaka]], nobody has any TertiarySexualCharacteristics, so I dare you to ID one of the girls without resorting to the color-coding - -- and even that's hardly foolproof (Vezok, Takadox, Gorast, Vamprah, etc.).



* WTHCastingAgency: In ''The Legend Reborn'', Metus is David Leisure- from the sitcom ''Series/EmptyNest'' and the fictional (and dishonest spokesman, "Joe Isuzu", from Isuzu car ads in the early 90s. On one hand, this does suit his introduced role as a Glatorian recruiter very well. [[spoiler:On the other hand, less his role as the BigBad, though his warning Mata Nui that he's not kidding around is [[HeReallyCanAct done ''very'' well]].]]

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* WTHCastingAgency: In ''The Legend Reborn'', Metus is David Leisure- Leisure -- from the sitcom ''Series/EmptyNest'' and the fictional (and dishonest spokesman, "Joe Isuzu", from Isuzu car ads in the early 90s. On one hand, this does suit his introduced role as a Glatorian recruiter very well. [[spoiler:On the other hand, less his role as the BigBad, though his warning Mata Nui that he's not kidding around is [[HeReallyCanAct done ''very'' well]].]]
30th Dec '16 2:37:50 AM LavaringX
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* FandomBerserkButton: [[IAmNotShazam The characters are not "Bionicles"]]

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* FandomBerserkButton: [[IAmNotShazam The characters are not "Bionicles"]]"Bionicles"]].
30th Dec '16 2:37:24 AM LavaringX
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* IAmNotShazam: The characters are not "Bionicles".

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* IAmNotShazam: The Again, '''''The characters are not "Bionicles". "Bionicles".''''' While it is generally acceptable to use "Bionicle" as a catch-all term for any character (especially when talking about the sets), the term "Bionicle" is actually a combination of the words "Biological" and "Chronicle".
30th Dec '16 2:33:11 AM LavaringX
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* FandomBerserkButton: [[IAmNotShazam The characters are not "Bionicles"]].
** Additionally, may Mata Nui help you if you confuse them with {{HeroFactory}}... or worse, {{Transformers}}.

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* FandomBerserkButton: [[IAmNotShazam The characters are not "Bionicles"]].
"Bionicles"]]
** Additionally, may Mata Nui help you if you confuse them this franchise with {{HeroFactory}}...{{Hero Factory}}... or worse, {{Transformers}}.
30th Dec '16 2:31:42 AM LavaringX
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** Additionally, may Mata Nui help you if you confuse them with {{HeroFactory}}... or worse, {{Transformes}}.

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** Additionally, may Mata Nui help you if you confuse them with {{HeroFactory}}... or worse, {{Transformes}}.{{Transformers}}.
30th Dec '16 2:31:04 AM LavaringX
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**Additionally, may Mata Nui help you if you confuse them with {{HeroFactory}}... or worse, {{Transformes}}.
23rd Dec '16 6:39:22 PM Sanokal
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* AwesomeEgo: Fan-favorite Matau.

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* AwesomeEgo: AwesomeEgo:
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Fan-favorite Matau.Toa-hero Matau. He never stops talking him (and the other Toa Metru) up, and also tends to prove that he can deliver.
** Makuta Teridax. [[spoiler:Considering his Plan ''worked'', it's hard to argue this]].



** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnblCk2dkjU The console games are]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqtlHUYxhaE nothing to sneeze at either.]]

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** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnblCk2dkjU The console games are]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqtlHUYxhaE nothing to sneeze at either.]]]] They even reused the ''BIONICLE: The Game'' soundtrack for ''Voya Nui Online''.



* BadassDecay: The Skrall in the battle at the end of ''The Legend Reborn,'' though WordOfGod [[JustifiedTrope justifies]] this by saying, 1.) They were scared out of their minds by this giant made out of bugs that suddenly appeared, 2.) The Glatorian, not being in the arena, have an excuse to employ all of those [[TryingToCatchMeFightingDirty dirty tricks]] that they've learned over the years, and 3.) ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem / HandWave. Also, the Glatorian had the element of surprise, plus a handful of them had ElementalPowers.

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* BadassDecay: BadassDecay:
** The Piraka are a mild case. For the most part the Piraka utterly curbstomped the Toa Nuva[[note]]Makuta later explicitly stated that they won through sheer luck[[/note]], but they're significantly easier to deal with for the Toa Inika, though still challenging foes. Zaktan gets hit with this the worst with his (admittedly unique) defeat at Nuparu's hands and his ButtMonkey status during the Toa Hagah serial.
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The Skrall in the battle at the end of ''The Legend Reborn,'' though where they go from being literally undefeated by a Glatorian to being taken out left and right in a few hits. WordOfGod [[JustifiedTrope justifies]] this by saying, 1.) They were scared out of their minds by this giant made out of bugs that suddenly appeared, 2.) The Glatorian, not being in the arena, have an excuse to employ all of those [[TryingToCatchMeFightingDirty dirty tricks]] that they've learned over the years, and 3.) ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem / HandWave. Also, the Glatorian had the element of surprise, plus a handful of them had ElementalPowers.



* DesignatedVillain: Turaga Dume and the Vahki get struck with this in the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=540_iF8Iz58 Vahki animations]]. The shorts all portray Dume's rule over Metru Nui as some kind of Orwellian oppressive government with the Vahki serving as brutal secret police. The main source material instead shows Dume as a [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold well-intentioned but stubborn ruler]]. Similarly, the Vahki are mindless robotic law enforcers who haven't really independently done anything that villainous in the main storyline.

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* DesignatedVillain: Turaga Dume and the Vahki get struck with this in the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=540_iF8Iz58 Vahki animations]]. The shorts all portray Dume's rule over Metru Nui as some kind of Orwellian oppressive government with the Vahki serving as brutal secret police. The main source material instead shows Dume as a [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold well-intentioned but stubborn ruler]]. Similarly, the Vahki are mindless robotic law enforcers who haven't really independently done anything that villainous in the main storyline. [[spoiler:Makuta WAS impersonating Dume at the time, but regardless he didn't mistreat most of the Matoran using the power granted by impersonating ''Dume'' until actually kidnapping them.]]



** On the subject of Makuta, Mutran and Krika. The internet seems to love the former likely due to his very amusing and world-building serial "The Mutran Chronicles", while the latter is admired for being a TragicVillain [[spoiler:with RedemptionEqualsDeath.]]

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** On the subject of Makuta, Mutran and Krika. The internet seems to love the former likely due to his very amusing and world-building serial "The Mutran Chronicles", while the latter is admired for being a TragicVillain [[spoiler:with RedemptionEqualsDeath.]] RedemptionEqualsDeath]] and being a very large and intimidating set.
** The Vorox for a multitude of reasons; their unique look and use of tan after years of absence of brown, their memetic quote, and to a lesser extent their role in the story. This extends somewhat to the Zesk as well.



* EvilIsCool: The Makuta, the Piraka, the Barraki and the Rahkshi.

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* EvilIsCool: The Makuta, for effectively being [[EldritchAbomination EldritchAbominations]] the Piraka for being a FauxAffablyEvil group of superpowered badasses, the Barraki for being monstrous marine BadassNormal characters in comparison to the Piraka, the Barraki and the Rahkshi.Rahkshi for their utter domination of the Toa Nuva in their early appearances.



* HilariousInHindsight: It's amazing how similar [[UrbanLegendOfZelda the fan-created Voriki]] was to future events.

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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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It's amazing how similar [[UrbanLegendOfZelda the fan-created Voriki]] was to future events.



** The Vahki suffered this for much of the same reasons as the Bohrok Kal due to sharing a similar build structure to the then-well received Rahkshi, which ended up causing some people to call them a rehash. Unlike the Bohrok Kals, the Vahki only had a minimal impact on the story and due to their robotic nature didn't have much of a personality either.

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** The Vahki suffered this for much of the same reasons as the Bohrok Kal due to sharing a similar build structure to the then-well received Rahkshi, which ended up causing some people to call them a rehash. Unlike the Bohrok Kals, Kal, the Vahki only had a minimal impact on the story and due to their robotic nature didn't have much of a personality either.



** Teridax isn't the only Makuta.

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** Teridax isn't the only Makuta. For that matter, that he has a name other than "Makuta".



* MagnificentBastard: Makuta; especially after the end of the Matoran saga. The below quote actually does him justice on this matter.

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* MagnificentBastard: MagnificentBastard:
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Makuta; especially after the end of the Matoran saga. The below quote actually does him justice on this matter.



** Tuma is an impressive example given that his personality in ''The Legend Reborn'' isn't that new and he's as subject to the same short-sightedness as the rest of his race. He generally avoids it by knowing that he has to be better than them to ensure the survival of the Skrall.



** Almost every time a character received a new toy, this was the fandom's reaction. This applied very heavily to the Phantoka and Mistika Toa sets. The fans' complaining was actually one of the main reasons why set designers shied away from joining forums like Website/BZPower.

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** Almost every time a character received a new toy, this was the fandom's reaction. reaction, as with the exception of the Toa Nuva they tended to look very different.[[note]]The reboot thoroughly averted this.[[/note]] This applied very heavily to the Phantoka and Mistika Toa sets. The fans' complaining was actually one of the main reasons why set designers shied away from joining forums like Website/BZPower.



* ViewerGenderConfusion: Besides [[EvilIsSexy Roodaka]], nobody has any TertiarySexualCharacteristics, so I dare you to ID one of the girls without resorting to the color-coding - and even that's hardly foolproof (Vezok, Takadox, Gorast, Vamprah, etc.).

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* ViewerGenderConfusion: ViewerGenderConfusion:
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Besides [[EvilIsSexy Roodaka]], nobody has any TertiarySexualCharacteristics, so I dare you to ID one of the girls without resorting to the color-coding - and even that's hardly foolproof (Vezok, Takadox, Gorast, Vamprah, etc.).



* {{Wangst}}: Vakama in ''Legends of Metru Nui''. Oh god, how much he angsts... He's also like this for much of ''Web of Shadows'', he gets over it by the end of the film.

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* {{Wangst}}: Vakama in ''Legends of Metru Nui''. Oh god, how much he angsts... He's also like this for much of ''Web of Shadows'', but he gets over it by the end of the film.



** Krika, of all characters. Yes, a Makuta has been turned into a Woobie.
** And the two first Toa of Air introduced, Lewa and Matau.
** And Lesovikk, ''another'' Toa of Air.

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** Krika, of all characters. Yes, a Makuta has been turned into a Woobie.
Woobie. He doesn't agree with the Plan and rebels whenever he can, but only goes along with it because he feels that it's all he can do. After going to Karda Nui, the Pit Mutagen in the swamp locks him into a monstrous form and robs him of so many powers that he needs to absorb heat and energy just to prevent himself from fading away. He specifically notes to Tahu that Makuta hate Toa because they're everything that the Makuta wish that they could be, and when he realizes that Teridax plans to kill them all, he tries to warn his fellow Makuta and gets killed in a truly [[DeaderThanDead horrific way]].
** And the two first Toa of Air introduced, Lewa and Matau.
Matau. The former constantly has his village destroyed and gets mind-controlled twice, in addition to the nasty situation of having Tren Krom pull a GrandTheftMe on him, while the latter gets brought down HARD in the second year of Adventures when the first part of Metru Nui they revisit is the now-wrecked Le-Metru, and then he gets mutated into an ugly beast, a curse that he in particular is quite disturbed by considering how obsessed he is with his looks. Then after all the (admittedly not unearned) vitrol Matau throws Vakama's way, Vakama snaps and pulls a FaceHeelTurn, prompting Matau to feel quite guilty about being so hard on him. And as a Turaga, he gets mind-controlled and forced to help mind-control Lewa and suffers the same destruction of his new home.
** And Lesovikk, ''another'' Toa of Air. He lost his entire team to Zyglak ''just because he hesitated'', his Turaga went mad and shipped his Matoran friends off to Karzahni, and he spent thousands and thousands of years trying to get them back, but failing every time.
** As Wangsty as Vakama can come across, there's no denying that he goes through a lot of crap during his time as a Toa, in addition to the universe slapping him across the mask whenever he doubts himself, especially when he gets overconfident and then brought down HARD during the second half of Adventures.
** Savage, a minor Dark Hunter who is a Toa Hordika that was never cured and attacked by his team when they didn't recognize him.
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* AwesomeEgo: Fan-favorite Matau.
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** Alternatively, it could be that Makuta Teridax ''is'' a WellIntentionedExtremist in canon: he did only decide to take over the universe after the Matoran Civil War and seeing that Mata Nui did not respond.
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