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* ValuesDissonance: When ''Bimbos'' was first published in 1988, SF/fantasy, gaming, computers, and fandom in general were still ''extremely'' niche activities. It shows in the general attitudes of the non-fan characters (and perhaps even in the writer's).
** Marion actually gets a mental monologue where she reflects on her own Values Dissonance, how in college she had the "Fans are {{Literature/Slan}}s" mentality that non-geeks weren't "real people", and how she realized how disturbing and selfish that attitude is once she grew out of her outsider phase.

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When ''Bimbos'' was first published in 1988, SF/fantasy, gaming, computers, and fandom in general were still ''extremely'' niche activities. It shows in the general attitudes of the non-fan characters (and perhaps even in the writer's).
** Marion actually gets a mental monologue where she reflects on her own Values Dissonance, how in college she had the "Fans are {{Literature/Slan}}s" Literature/{{Slan}}s" mentality that non-geeks weren't "real people", and how she realized how disturbing and selfish that attitude is once she grew out of her outsider phase.
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* MoralEventHorizon: In their youth, several of the Lanthanides [[spoiler:had drunken sex with an underage female acquaintance at a convention]]; applies InUniverse as well, since the narration notes that Marion's tone of voice is a lot less respectful after TheReveal.

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* MoralEventHorizon: For ''Zombies of the Gene Pool.'' In their youth, several of the Lanthanides [[spoiler:had drunken sex with an underage female acquaintance at a convention]]; applies InUniverse as well, since the narration notes that Marion's tone of voice is a lot less respectful after TheReveal.
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* DeletedScene: In ''Bimbos'', [[spoiler:Dungannon's publisher reveals that at the end of each book, he would write a chapter or two where Tratyn Runewind is killed and/or humiliated, in order to vent his frustrations about being chained to the series; these chapters would always be removed before the book saw print. However, a psycho fan broke into Dungannon's room and found the chapter without realizing the context, which led to the murder.]]
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* MoralEventHorizon: In their youth, several of the Lanthanides [[spoiler:raped a female friend when she was drunk and passed out]]; applies InUniverse as well, since the narration notes that Marion's tone of voice is a lot less respectful after TheReveal.

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* MoralEventHorizon: In their youth, several of the Lanthanides [[spoiler:raped a [[spoiler:had drunken sex with an underage female friend when she was drunk and passed out]]; acquaintance at a convention]]; applies InUniverse as well, since the narration notes that Marion's tone of voice is a lot less respectful after TheReveal.
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: The Franchise/StarTrek {{Cosplay}} wedding in ''Bimbos''. Jay whispers to Marion "Will the groom be going where no man has gone before?", and they have to spend the rest of the wedding pretending they're crying.
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* DeletedScene: In ''Bimbos'', [[spoiler:Dungannon's publisher reveals that at the end of each book, he would write a chapter or two where Tratyn Runewind is killed and/or humiliated, in order to vent his frustrations about being chained to the series; these chapters would always be removed before the book saw print. However, a psycho fan broke into Dungannon's room and found the chapter without realizing the context, which lead to the murder.]]

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* DeletedScene: In ''Bimbos'', [[spoiler:Dungannon's publisher reveals that at the end of each book, he would write a chapter or two where Tratyn Runewind is killed and/or humiliated, in order to vent his frustrations about being chained to the series; these chapters would always be removed before the book saw print. However, a psycho fan broke into Dungannon's room and found the chapter without realizing the context, which lead led to the murder.]]
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* DeletedScene: In ''Bimbos'', [[spoiler:Dungannon's publisher reveals that at the end of each book, he would write a chapter or two where Tratyn Runewind is killed and/or humiliated, in order to vent his frustrations about being chained to the series; these chapters would always be removed before the book saw print. However, a psycho fan broke into Dungannon's room and found the chapter without realizing the context, which lead to the murder.]]

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Moved stuff to main page with an invoked tag. Never live it down belongs there as well when expanded upon.


* BigNameFan: Monk Malone in the first book. Con co-founder Diefenbaker actually describes him thus when Jay asks what he did to earn such adulation.
-->''"He's a fan. And he's very good at it."''



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** Marion actually gets a mental monologue where she reflects on her own Values Dissonance, how in college she figured that non-nerds weren't "real", and how she realized how disturbing and selfish that attitude is once she grew out of her outsider phase.

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** Marion actually gets a mental monologue where she reflects on her own Values Dissonance, how in college she figured had the "Fans are {{Literature/Slan}}s" mentality that non-nerds non-geeks weren't "real", "real people", and how she realized how disturbing and selfish that attitude is once she grew out of her outsider phase.
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** Marion actually gets a mental monologue where she reflects on her own Values Dissonance, how in college she figured that non-nerds weren't "real", and how she realized how disturbing and selfish that attitude is once she grew out of her outsider phase.
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: The StarTrek {{Cosplay}} wedding in ''Bimbos''. Jay whispers to Marion "Will the groom be going where no man has gone before?", and they have to spend the rest of the wedding pretending they're crying.

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: The StarTrek Franchise/StarTrek {{Cosplay}} wedding in ''Bimbos''. Jay whispers to Marion "Will the groom be going where no man has gone before?", and they have to spend the rest of the wedding pretending they're crying.

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: The StarTrek {{Cosplay}} wedding in ''Bimbos''.
* MoralEventHorizon: In their youth, several of the Lanthanides [[spoiler:raped a female friend when she was drunk and passed out]]; this trope applies both to the readers and to the cast (Marion especially).

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: The StarTrek {{Cosplay}} wedding in ''Bimbos''.
''Bimbos''. Jay whispers to Marion "Will the groom be going where no man has gone before?", and they have to spend the rest of the wedding pretending they're crying.
* MoralEventHorizon: In their youth, several of the Lanthanides [[spoiler:raped a female friend when she was drunk and passed out]]; this trope applies both to InUniverse as well, since the readers and to the cast (Marion especially).narration notes that Marion's tone of voice is a lot less respectful after TheReveal.



** In ''Zombies'', Erik wistfully remembers that the gas station had a young bear in a cage that people would visit and give bottles of chocolate soda. Marion thinks the whole thing sounds barbaric.

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* BigNameFan: Monk Malone in the first book.

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* BigNameFan: Monk Malone in the first book. Con co-founder Diefenbaker actually describes him thus when Jay asks what he did to earn such adulation.
-->''"He's a fan. And he's very good at it."''

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