History YMMV / BigBrother

12th May '16 10:24:31 PM Klavice
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*** Nikki again in Big Brother Canada 4 where she plays as a International player. While still regarded as a wangster, she had grown a lot more likeable and flirted with more than just one guy, and had some genuinely touching moments, particularly when the kangaroo and British Bull Dog puppies showed up.


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*** It even carried over to the Big Brother Canada 4.
12th May '16 10:18:40 PM Klavice
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** Big Brother Canada 4 in general. Was it the best Canadian season thus far with the twist of the players from the UK and Australia giving the cast a good needed seasoning, or did Canada pick the two most annoying houseguests in Big Brother history who should have gone home immediately, but only stayed because of their standing with the house. There's also a camp who tolerates Nikki and Tim, but despises the other houseguests saying the season was only the least bit entertaining because of them, and if they weren't there, they would have quit watching weeks ago.

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** Big Brother Canada 4 in general. Was it the best Canadian season thus far with the twist of the players from the UK and Australia giving the cast a good needed seasoning, or did Canada pick the two most annoying houseguests in Big Brother history who should have gone home immediately, but only stayed because of their standing with the house. house? There's also a camp who tolerates Nikki and Tim, but despises the other houseguests saying the season was only the least bit entertaining because of them, and if they weren't there, they would have quit watching weeks ago.


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** From Canada Season 4 we have Joel who was very close to being in the finale, but was (aside from Tim) the most liked houseguest of the final 6. (Or the least divisive one) Even the jury was shocked to see Joel go.


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** Tim Dormer is essentially the Australian version of Dan and Will. He's got their charm, intelligence, and mixes it with ObfusciatingStupidity to easily breeze his way to finale and easily manipulating everyone to keep him each time he's nominated. He won on Australia 10, and was one competition away from the final two. It's safe to say he played the best game, keeping his alliance safe and messing with the houseguests on a regular basis, combining this with {{Troll}}.
12th May '16 10:08:25 PM Klavice
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** The winner of Big Brother Canada 4, Nicholas and Philippe Paquette seem to be very divisive if comments on Facebook are any indication. Tim was the favourite to win for sure, but many fans saw Nick and Phil as annoying and cringe-inducing having no real gameplay to speak of (only winning competitions when they had to, even losing the final HoH which could have cost them the game). Unlike many examples though, while they aren't hated, per se, there is a vocal minority who threatened to stop watching all future seasons of Big Brother if Nick and Phil won, making them this.
** Big Brother Canada 4 in general. Was it the best Canadian season thus far with the twist of the players from the UK and Australia giving the cast a good needed seasoning, or did Canada pick the two most annoying houseguests in Big Brother history who should have gone home immediately, but only stayed because of their standing with the house. There's also a camp who tolerates Nikki and Tim, but despises the other houseguests saying the season was only the least bit entertaining because of them, and if they weren't there, they would have quit watching weeks ago.
10th Jan '16 10:12:41 PM jormis29
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* HilariousInHindsight: Houseguest Amanda referred to Candice (who is adopted) as the "Black {{Annie}}"/"Blannie", intending it as an insult. Fast forward to 2014 where [[http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/primary1.jpg Annie was remade...]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: Houseguest Amanda referred to Candice (who is adopted) as the "Black {{Annie}}"/"Blannie", Theatre/{{Annie}}"/"Blannie", intending it as an insult. Fast forward to [[Film/{{Annie 2014}} 2014 where [[http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/primary1.jpg Annie was remade...]]
6th Jan '16 4:45:03 PM JMW929
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** Dr. Will Kirby from U.S. S2 and S7 (Though mostly from S7) is known to be the King of this trope. Will would manipulate other houseguests in order to get them to do what he wants in both of the seasons he played in. During his run in Big Brother All Stars, Will manipulated James Rhine over to his side from James' Big Brother 6 alliance, convinced Janelle to nominate and evict her best friend, Kaysar; formed a sub alliance with both Janelle and Howie in attempts to garner himself and Boogie safety in the house, and finally, he had a hand in blindsiding one of the bigger alliances in Marcellas, James, Danielle and Howie. In fact, Will manipulated and played Janelle so good during All Stars that it wasn't until at Final 4 both Janelle and Erika realized that they had been played by him

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** Dr. Will Kirby from U.S. S2 and S7 (Though mostly from S7) is known to be the King of this trope. Will would manipulate other houseguests in order to get them to do what he wants in both of the seasons he played in. During his run in Big Brother All Stars, Will manipulated James Rhine over to his side from James' Big Brother 6 alliance, convinced Janelle to nominate and evict her best friend, Kaysar; formed a sub alliance with both Janelle and Howie in attempts to garner himself and Boogie safety in the house, and finally, he had a hand in blindsiding one of the bigger alliances in Marcellas, James, Danielle and Howie. In fact, Will manipulated and played Janelle so good during All Stars that it wasn't until at Final 4 both Janelle and Erika realized that they had been played by himhim.
4th Dec '15 10:49:47 AM Berrenta
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** [=BBCanada=] 3, with the combination of ToughActToFollow, and the overload of sometimes, unfair twists for the more unpopular houseguests (like the Week 1 public vote and Instant Triple Elimination). Also, adding on to that, was gameplay that was panned by viewers and fans as "too safe" and "stupid", favourites leaving early and, at times, clear executive meddling towards certain popular houseguests that resulted in InternetBacklash.

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** [=BBCanada=] 3, with the combination of ToughActToFollow, and the overload of sometimes, unfair twists for the more unpopular houseguests (like the Week 1 public vote and Instant Triple Elimination). Also, adding on to that, was gameplay that was panned by viewers and fans as "too safe" and "stupid", favourites leaving early and, at times, clear executive meddling towards certain popular houseguests that resulted in InternetBacklash.backlash.
10th Nov '15 1:42:58 AM Anddrix
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* DudeNotFunny: When Tom opened the shower door while Alec was in it, exposing his privates to everyone. Alec actually ''broke down crying'' in the Diary Room later.
** A similar event happens on the live feeds of Big Brother 2 Canada where Sarah burns Jon with scalding hot spoons and causes him to break down crying.
** And then we have the montage of contestants crying in Season 15, which came across this when the scene where Candice was crying. Few people may have notice that her clothes that she was wearing was same like she wore on the [=BedGate=]...
** Caleb's (U.S. Season 16) unhealthy obsession over Amber has gone far beyond GinaMarie's obsessions.
*** Similarly, Austin's (U.S. Season Season 17) obsession over Liz.
*** Frankie from the same season. He jokes that Jocasta should kill herself to get off the block. Let's not forget when he said that he wanted to "euthanize" Zach and "stab the baby in the heart". Or how about he suggests that the guys should gang rape a drunken Victoria and "take all of her virginities in one night?' Frankie even openly admitted that he gets a thrill out of watching violent scenes and rape scenes.
5th Oct '15 7:48:03 AM Polisi25
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** Even though the game isn't over yet, Vanessa from [=US=] Season 17 is starting to look this way. She's essentially gotten rid of all but one of her threats (Steve). Anyone who tries to call her out on her aggressive gameplay is immediately evicted, cries and blames others whenever she's called out on it, managed to break up two potential final twos. She's controlled the vote from the very beginning much like Derrick and Maggie Ausburn and has out-gambitted ''every single houseguest''. Though she's not liked, you've got to hand it to her, she's a pretty amazing game player.

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** Even though the game isn't over yet, Vanessa from [=US=] Season 17 is starting to look this way.17, even though she ended up 3rd. She's essentially gotten rid of all but one of her threats (Steve). Anyone who tries to call her out on her aggressive gameplay is immediately evicted, cries and blames others whenever she's called out on it, managed to break up two potential final twos. She's controlled And the vote from the very beginning much like Derrick and Maggie Ausburn and has out-gambitted ''every single houseguest''. Though she's not liked, you've got to hand it to her, she's only reason she lost is by a pretty amazing game player.luck-based Q&A Final [=HOH=] against Steve.



** Mike Boogie (7): "Get to stepping."



* PanderingToTheBase: US Season 13, which featured the return of six fan favorites with ''obvious'' slantings and bailouts when things weren't going their way. The live feeds would be almost perpetually turned towards them, and the edited shows would be about 90% veterans, denying any of the new houseguests any chance at screentime. It worked ratings wise, but the fans however...

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* PanderingToTheBase: PanderingToTheBase:
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US Season 13, which featured the return of six fan favorites with ''obvious'' slantings and bailouts when things weren't going their way. The live feeds would be almost perpetually turned towards them, and the edited shows would be about 90% veterans, denying any of the new houseguests any chance at screentime. It worked ratings wise, but the fans however...



** After that, the show decided to become hands-off in rigging, and in US Season 15, they even took away Ellisa's [=MVP=] powers due to being too overpowered. This reaches it's peak in US Season 16, where their hands-off approach ended up with a boring season in gameplay

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** After that, the rigging accusations, the show decided to become rather hands-off in rigging, their executive manipulation, and in US Season 15, they even took away Ellisa's [=MVP=] powers due to being too overpowered. This reaches it's peak in US Season 16, where their hands-off approach ended up with a boring season in gameplay



** The Final Part of the Final [=HOH=] where contestants are required to answers statements about the houseguest, which sometimes proves to be luck-based quite to the statements are made after the jury has cooled down from the game.



** Season 12; the producers didn't really try to slant the season that much and they didn't show off that many twists that affected the game (sans the Diamond Power of Veto, which was a small-scale coup'de'tat). Because the Saboteur twist ended early and when it was tried again it just annoys the houseguests. (Although it ''did'' screw over Kathy) Additionally, most people were rather... dull game players (except for Rachel Reilly) because they were more booksmart than streetsmart, but were streamrolled by The Brigade (who showed a BoringButPractical strategy) until the end.

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** Season 12; the producers didn't really try to slant the season that much and they didn't show off that many twists that affected the game (sans the Diamond Power of Veto, which was a small-scale coup'de'tat). Because coup'de'tat), the Saboteur main twist (Saboteur) ended early and when it was tried again it just only annoys the houseguests. (Although it ''did'' screw over Kathy) Additionally, most people were rather... dull game players (except for Rachel Reilly) because they that were more booksmart than streetsmart, but & drama avoiders, and were streamrolled by The Brigade (who showed a BoringButPractical strategy) until the end.end. It says a lot when the fans considered the edited show are better than the live feeds.



** U.S. Season 17. With a poor boot order thanks to an alliance being formed early on, which steamrolled the competition, leaving many of the more engaging contestants out and leaving [[BaseBreaker Base Breakers]] and Scrappies in their place, a houseguest who controlled almost every vote as one of the leaders of the aforementioned alliance (like Derrick from 16) and yet came up short losing the final challenge to another houseguest who ended up winning (which pissed off the people who weren't rooting for the last likable houseguest), a final five where only two of the houseguests are remotely popular, the others are polarizing at best, one of which (read: the most popular houseguest out of the final five) being evicted shortly after, and a winner who many question "Do they really deserve it?" as they've been accused of by both the jury and fans of "floating" their way to the end and only making a big move by evicting the dominate houseguest. 17 while it started out good is sadly (for those fans of it) reached this point. It's worth noting that it's probably the best season strategy-wise in a very long time, even if most of the strategy is done by said dominate houseguest and the winner, who worked with said dominate houseguest. It's miles better than 16 was though in terms of gameplay.

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** U.S. Season 17. With a poor boot order thanks to an alliance being formed early on, which steamrolled the competition, leaving many of the more engaging contestants out and leaving [[BaseBreaker Base Breakers]] and Scrappies in their place, a houseguest who controlled almost every vote as one of the leaders of the aforementioned alliance (like Derrick from 16) and yet came up short losing the final challenge to another houseguest who ended up winning (which pissed off the people who weren't rooting for the last likable houseguest), a final five where only two of the houseguests are remotely popular, the others are polarizing at best, one of which (read: the most popular a houseguest out who controlled almost every vote as one of the leaders of the aforementioned alliance and yet came up short losing the final five) being evicted shortly after, challenge, and a winner who many question "Do they really deserve it?" as they've been accused of by both the jury and fans of "floating" their way to the end and only making a big move by evicting the dominate houseguest. 17 while it started out good is sadly (for those fans of it) reached this point.houseguest. It's worth noting that it's probably the best season strategy-wise in a very long time, even if most of the strategy is done by said dominate houseguest and the winner, who worked with said dominate houseguest. It's miles better than 16 was though in terms of gameplay.gameplay & entertainment.



%% * SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: For the US version, BB17 to BB15 and 16. BB15 had a rather dislikable cast but had split votes, downfalls, blindsides, ties, and voting antics that made up for the few weeks the season stagnated. BB16 had (With the exception of Frankie, Devin, and Christine) a much more genuinely likable (Albeit [[TooDumbToLive extremely stupid]]) cast, but with the exception of Paola's blindside, feed-watchers were able to guess who was going long before, essentially deeming Derrick's victory a ForegoneConclusion. BB17 has been shaping up to be a better-received season by the fans due to having a cast of much more "normal" seeming people (eg, less wannabe stars, only one server, lots of people in Retail jobs) who ''instantly'' started talking game with each other. This is later subverted because many of the more likable houseguests were evicted leaving only one or two rootable houseguests and the rest polarizing at best.

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%% * SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: For TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Due to BB13 & BB14 mix up newbies with some of the most well-known contestants starting from BB8, the US version, BB17 to BB15 and 16. BB15 had a rather dislikable cast but had split votes, downfalls, blindsides, ties, and voting antics that made up for the few weeks the season stagnated. BB16 had (With the exception of Frankie, Devin, and Christine) a much more genuinely likable (Albeit [[TooDumbToLive extremely stupid]]) cast, but with the exception of Paola's blindside, feed-watchers were able to guess who was going long before, essentially deeming Derrick's victory a ForegoneConclusion. BB17 has been shaping up to be a better-received season by the fans due to having a cast of much more "normal" seeming people (eg, less wannabe stars, only one server, lots of people in Retail jobs) who ''instantly'' started talking game with each other. This is later subverted because many of the more likable houseguests were evicted leaving only one or two rootable houseguests and the rest polarizing at best.still haven't got another returning players since BB7.
29th Sep '15 4:13:21 PM skategate
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** Liz drew a certain amount of ire from the fanbase, especially for aforementioned relationship with Austin. Not all of it is her fault, though - when Zingbot insulted the houseguests, Liz's wasn't even about her, but rather Austin (and his ex girlfriend), and on something she didn't even ''know about'' at the time.
-->'''Zingbot:''' Liz, you've become such an important part of Austin's life. Are you more excited to meet his mom, his dad or his girlfriend? ZING!
29th Sep '15 11:21:22 AM Klavice
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** Speaking of people accused of floating, there's [=BB17=]'s Steve Moses. He's accused of floating his way to the end and only winning because he wasn't against Vanessa.

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** Speaking of people accused of floating, there's [=BB17=]'s "winner" Steve Moses. He's accused of floating his way to the end and only winning because he wasn't against Vanessa.Vanessa, which some claim he just got lucky the last question in the Final HOH was a random tidbit from John. Like Fabio of Survivor, quite a few have claimed he's undeserving of the million and that Vanessa should have won. This is ignoring the fact that Vanessa wouldn't have taken him because she wanted a girl to win and still didn't vote for him in the end because she was bitter, despite the fact his game was miles better than Liz's who was practically non existent.
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