History YMMV / BeastMachines

22nd Nov '17 3:00:59 AM JoelRowan
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** Rattrap arguably gets it the worst, as dialog from {{WesternAnimation/Beast Wars}} suggests that he's one of the older members of the group, here, he seems to have the body of a child. In addition to the lack of legs making him even shorter than he already was, his face and the fact that his head comes with a small baseball cap makes him look less like the 'bot we know and more like [[WesternAnimation/ReBoot Enzo would reboot into.]]

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** Rattrap arguably gets it the worst, as dialog from {{WesternAnimation/Beast Wars}} suggests that he's one of the older members of the group, here, he seems to have been reformatted into the body of a child. In addition to the lack of legs making him even shorter than he already was, his face and (and the fact that his head comes seems to come with a small baseball cap built in) makes [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Catalyst_Rattrap_vine_uhoh.jpg him look less like the 'bot we know and more like like]] something [[WesternAnimation/ReBoot Enzo would reboot into.]]
22nd Nov '17 2:37:35 AM JoelRowan
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** Rattrap arguably gets it the worst, as dialog from {{WesternAnimation/Beast Wars}} suggests that he's one of the older members of the group, here, he seems to have the body of a child. In addition to the lack of legs making him even shorter than he already was, his face and the fact that his head comes with a small baseball cap makes him look less like the 'bot we know and more like [[WesternAnimation/ReBoot Enzo would reboot into.]]
24th Sep '17 9:54:29 AM nombretomado
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* ToughActToFollow: BeastWars was (and still is) seen as one of, if not THE greatest Transformers shows ever and the one that single-handily rescued the franchise from the DorkAge that was Generation 2. So of course Beast Machines was going to have a hard time measuring up. Made even worse by the fact that writers like Bob Skir were directly ordered NOT to watch Beast Wars, making it a ForegoneConclusion that creating a coherent show with characters from a previous series that they've never watched before would be downright impossible.

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* ToughActToFollow: BeastWars ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'' was (and still is) seen as one of, if not THE greatest Transformers shows ever and the one that single-handily rescued the franchise from the DorkAge that was Generation 2. So of course Beast Machines was going to have a hard time measuring up. Made even worse by the fact that writers like Bob Skir were directly ordered NOT to watch Beast Wars, making it a ForegoneConclusion that creating a coherent show with characters from a previous series that they've never watched before would be downright impossible.
1st Sep '17 6:47:05 PM RomanBowler
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* ReplacementScrappy: Downplayed but oddly enough, Silverbolt became this after Blackarahnia reformatted Jetstorm and restored him in Season 2. Whereas Jetstorm had been an entertaining LaughablyEvil villain, Silverbolt became a KnightInSourArmor rather than the pure, noble hero he had previously been. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking His rather ugly design didn't help]].

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* ReplacementScrappy: Downplayed since they're technically the same character and he's still well liked outside of the show but oddly enough, Silverbolt became this after Blackarahnia reformatted Jetstorm and restored him in Season 2. Whereas Jetstorm had been an entertaining LaughablyEvil villain, Silverbolt became a KnightInSourArmor rather than the pure, noble hero he had previously been. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking His rather ugly design didn't help]].
27th Aug '17 5:21:23 AM Doug86
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* HilariousInHindsight: According to a FoxKids press release, the original name for the series was going to be ''Beast Hunters'', which later became the subtitle for the third season of ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime''.

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* HilariousInHindsight: According to a FoxKids Creator/FoxKids press release, the original name for the series was going to be ''Beast Hunters'', which later became the subtitle for the third season of ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime''.
21st Jul '17 9:02:59 AM Anddrix
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* CounterpartComparison: The show has been noted to bear a number of similarities to ''Franchise/TheMatrix'': a struggle between an all-encompassing robotic evil attempting to reformat the world in its own image and a band of rebels lead by a MessianicArchetype who sacrifices himself to take out the BigBad (who has by this time assimilated almost all) and quite literally reformat the world into a sunny paradise. Not to mention the heroes being helped by a figure called The Oracle, the hero and the villain have deeply philosophical existentialism/nihilism clashes and the object of assimilation is called... well, The Matrix. Notably, ''Beast Machines'' came out before the Matrix sequels which dealt with SMith's AssimilationPlot.
21st Jul '17 1:36:59 AM NhazUl
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* CounterpartComparison: The show has been noted to bear a number of similarities to [[Franchise/TheMatrix]]: a struggle between an all-encompassing robotic evil attempting to reformat the world in its own image and a band of rebels lead by a MessianicArchetype who sacrifices himself to take out the BigBad (who has by this time assimilated almost all) and quite literally reformat the world into a sunny paradise. Not to mention the heroes being helped by a figure called The Oracle, the hero and the villain have deeply philosophical existentialism/nihilism clashes and the object of assimilation is called... well, The Matrix. Notably, ''Beast Machines'' came out before the Matrix sequels which dealt with SMith's AssimilationPlot.

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* CounterpartComparison: The show has been noted to bear a number of similarities to [[Franchise/TheMatrix]]: ''Franchise/TheMatrix'': a struggle between an all-encompassing robotic evil attempting to reformat the world in its own image and a band of rebels lead by a MessianicArchetype who sacrifices himself to take out the BigBad (who has by this time assimilated almost all) and quite literally reformat the world into a sunny paradise. Not to mention the heroes being helped by a figure called The Oracle, the hero and the villain have deeply philosophical existentialism/nihilism clashes and the object of assimilation is called... well, The Matrix. Notably, ''Beast Machines'' came out before the Matrix sequels which dealt with SMith's AssimilationPlot.
21st Jul '17 1:34:55 AM NhazUl
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: Due to limited use of specular and emissive maps unlike Beast Wars (meaning fewer shiny and glowy effects) explosions are represented by meshes with a solid, ''shaded'' texture.

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* SpecialEffectsFailure: Due to limited use of specular and emissive maps unlike Beast Wars (meaning fewer shiny and glowy effects) explosions are represented by meshes with a solid, ''shaded'' texture. They also ''have shadows''.
21st Jul '17 1:32:50 AM NhazUl
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* CounterpartComparison: The show has been noted to bear a number of similarities to [[Franchise/TheMatrix]]: a struggle between an all-encompassing robotic evil attempting to reformat the world in its own image and a band of rebels lead by a MessianicArchetype who sacrifices himself to take out the BigBad (who has by this time assimilated almost all) and quite literally reformat the world into a sunny paradise. Not to mention the heroes being helped by a figure called The Oracle, the hero and the villain have deeply philosophical existentialism/nihilism clashes and the object of assimilation is called... well, The Matrix.

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* CounterpartComparison: The show has been noted to bear a number of similarities to [[Franchise/TheMatrix]]: a struggle between an all-encompassing robotic evil attempting to reformat the world in its own image and a band of rebels lead by a MessianicArchetype who sacrifices himself to take out the BigBad (who has by this time assimilated almost all) and quite literally reformat the world into a sunny paradise. Not to mention the heroes being helped by a figure called The Oracle, the hero and the villain have deeply philosophical existentialism/nihilism clashes and the object of assimilation is called... well, The Matrix. Notably, ''Beast Machines'' came out before the Matrix sequels which dealt with SMith's AssimilationPlot.
21st Jul '17 1:31:56 AM NhazUl
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* CounterpartComparison: The show has been noted to bear a number of similarities to [[Franchise/TheMatrix]]: a struggle between an all-encompassing robotic evil attempting to reformat the world in its own image and a band of rebels lead by a MessianicArchetype who sacrifices himself to take out the BigBad (who has by this time assimilated almost all) and quite literally reformat the world into a sunny paradise. Not to mention the heroes being helped by a figure called The Oracle, the hero and the villain have deeply philosophical existentialism/nihilism clashes and the object of assimilation is called... well, The Matrix.
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