History YMMV / BeastMachines

27th Aug '16 10:50:30 PM overman2099
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* ToughActToFollow: BeastWars was (and still is) seen as one of, if not THE greatest Transformers shows ever and the one that single-handily rescued the franchise from the DorkAge that was Generation 2. So of course Beast Machines was going to have a hard time measuring up. Made even worse by the fact that writers like Bob Skir were directly ordered NOT to watch Beast Wars, making it a ForegoneConclusion that creating a coherent show with characters from a previous series that you've never watched before would be downright impossible.

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* ToughActToFollow: BeastWars was (and still is) seen as one of, if not THE greatest Transformers shows ever and the one that single-handily rescued the franchise from the DorkAge that was Generation 2. So of course Beast Machines was going to have a hard time measuring up. Made even worse by the fact that writers like Bob Skir were directly ordered NOT to watch Beast Wars, making it a ForegoneConclusion that creating a coherent show with characters from a previous series that you've they've never watched before would be downright impossible.
27th Aug '16 10:49:38 PM overman2099
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* ToughActToFollow: BeastWars was (and still is) seen as one of, if not THE greatest Transformers shows ever and the one that single-handily rescued the franchise from the DorkAge that was Generation 2. So of course Beast Machines was going to have a hard time measuring up.

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* ToughActToFollow: BeastWars was (and still is) seen as one of, if not THE greatest Transformers shows ever and the one that single-handily rescued the franchise from the DorkAge that was Generation 2. So of course Beast Machines was going to have a hard time measuring up. Made even worse by the fact that writers like Bob Skir were directly ordered NOT to watch Beast Wars, making it a ForegoneConclusion that creating a coherent show with characters from a previous series that you've never watched before would be downright impossible.
15th Jul '16 12:48:58 AM baku_destructor
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: Inverted! A lot of aspects from this show that people complain about (stronger continuity, darker storytelling, InNameOnly characters, etc.) would later be used to good effect by later ''Transformers'' series such as the Dreamwave and IDW comics, ''Transformers Animated'', and ''Transformers Prime''. One could consider this show an experimental first step before it's ideas, themes, and methods were perfected by later incarnations of ''Transformers''.

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* FranchiseOriginalSin: Inverted! A lot of aspects from this show that people complain about (stronger continuity, darker storytelling, InNameOnly characters, etc.) would later be used to good effect by later ''Transformers'' series such as the Dreamwave and IDW comics, ''Transformers Animated'', and ''Transformers Prime''. One could consider this show an experimental first step before it's its ideas, themes, and methods were perfected by later incarnations of ''Transformers''.
15th Jul '16 12:46:45 AM baku_destructor
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* CompleteMonster: Megatron was already a huge bastard in Beast Wars. This show, however, takes it UpToEleven. Here, he's responsible for the de-sparking of 99.99% of all the Transformers on Cybertron, meaning, effectively, ''he stole their souls''. Then, he tore apart every last one of those vacant bodies and recycled them into his Vehicon drone army. When some of the last Maximals known to exist crashland on what is now his planet, he captures them, gloat over them, and seeks to de-spark ''them'' now too. And, finally, he decides to [[spoiler:devour/absorb all the sparks he's stolen, [[GodIsEvil becoming God in the process]]]].

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* CompleteMonster: Megatron was already a huge bastard in Beast Wars. This show, however, takes it UpToEleven. Here, he's responsible for the de-sparking of 99.99% of all the Transformers on Cybertron, meaning, effectively, ''he stole their souls''. Then, he tore apart every last one of those vacant bodies and recycled them into his Vehicon drone army. When some of the last Maximals known to exist crashland on what is now his planet, he captures them, gloat over gloats at them, and seeks to de-spark ''them'' now ''them'', too. And, finally, he decides to [[spoiler:devour/absorb all the sparks he's stolen, [[GodIsEvil becoming God in the process]]]].
9th Jun '16 12:28:17 AM CaptainTedium
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* HilariousInHindsight: According to a FoxKids press release, the original name for the series was going to be ''[[WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime Beast Hunters]]''.

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* HilariousInHindsight: According to a FoxKids press release, the original name for the series was going to be ''[[WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime Beast Hunters]]''.''Beast Hunters'', which later became the subtitle for the third season of ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime''.
10th May '16 6:01:31 AM CaptainTedium
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* ContinuityLockout: A common complaint of the show was that the continuity was so strong that the show was impossible to follow unless one started from the beginning. Yet still, at a length of only twenty-six episodes, this is not as much of a drawback as it could be.

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* ContinuityLockout: ContinuityLockOut: A common complaint of the show was that the continuity was so strong that the show was impossible to follow unless one started from the beginning. Yet still, at a length of only twenty-six episodes, this is not as much of a drawback as it could be.
10th May '16 6:01:03 AM CaptainTedium
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* ContinuityLockout: A common complaint of the show was that the continuity was so strong that the show was impossible to follow unless one started from the beginning. Yet still, at a length of only twenty-six episodes, this is not as much of a drawback as it could be.
24th Mar '16 7:39:12 PM WJTaylor4
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** At what point [[spoiler:did Silverbolt really become aware that he had been reprogrammed into Jetstorm - and start enjoying the experience of being an evil monster? When Blackarachnia originally awakened Silverbolt's mind in Jetstorm's body his personality appeared to be more or less the same, but when she brought him back completely in season 2 he had clearly changed from NiceGuy KnightInShiningArmor to a guilt ridden loner (in the form of a samurai condor) who was understandably upset over his tenure as Jetstorm. If he didn't realize what he was doing until after the initial reawakening, was it really the Jetstorm personality refusing to be changed back, or was it Silverbolt speaking through Jetstorm?]]


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** [[spoiler:Blackarachnia initially reawakening Silverbolt's mind inside Jetstorm's body and the two are briefly reunited before the Jetstorm personality reasserts itself. There's something undeniably heartwarming about the scene, from Silverbolt referring to her as the "dark poison" of his heart, followed by Blackarachnia affectionately observing "There's only one Transformer who could say something that corny with a straight face..."]]
13th Mar '16 4:12:05 PM MasterHero
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** Case in point: ''The Weak Component''. You'd expect Blackarachnia, Cheetor and Nightscream to cut Rattrap some slack, since he's just getting used to his new body. Instead, they all pick up the JerkassBall and drive him to go to Megatron for some weapons upgrade. [[SarcasmMode What a loyal and understanding group of friends.]]
10th Oct '15 6:12:07 PM DrPsyche
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Jetstorm is incredibly popular.
** All of the Vehicon generals were, to some extent, particularly Jetstorm and Thrust.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse:
** The Vehicon Generals are fondly remembered. Whenever Beast Machines is referenced in later continuities, it's the Vehicons who usually get the nods. Of the Generals, Thrust is held in high regard because of his personality, and
Jetstorm is incredibly popular.
** All of
remains the Vehicon generals were, to some extent, particularly Jetstorm and Thrust.most popular because of his theatrics.



** While the animation was an improvement, the redesigns for the Maximals weren't as liked. Whenever newer toylines/fiction reference the Beast Era, the more liked Vehicon designs are usually taken from this show, while the Maximal homages are based on their Beast Wars designs.

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** While the animation was an improvement, the redesigns for the Maximals weren't as liked. Whenever newer toylines/fiction reference the Beast Era, the more liked Vehicon designs from Beast Wars are usually taken from this show, while given the Maximal homages are based on their Beast Wars designs.homage.
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