History YMMV / BeastMachines

21st Jul '17 9:02:59 AM Anddrix
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* CounterpartComparison: The show has been noted to bear a number of similarities to ''Franchise/TheMatrix'': a struggle between an all-encompassing robotic evil attempting to reformat the world in its own image and a band of rebels lead by a MessianicArchetype who sacrifices himself to take out the BigBad (who has by this time assimilated almost all) and quite literally reformat the world into a sunny paradise. Not to mention the heroes being helped by a figure called The Oracle, the hero and the villain have deeply philosophical existentialism/nihilism clashes and the object of assimilation is called... well, The Matrix. Notably, ''Beast Machines'' came out before the Matrix sequels which dealt with SMith's AssimilationPlot.
21st Jul '17 1:36:59 AM NhazUl
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* CounterpartComparison: The show has been noted to bear a number of similarities to [[Franchise/TheMatrix]]: a struggle between an all-encompassing robotic evil attempting to reformat the world in its own image and a band of rebels lead by a MessianicArchetype who sacrifices himself to take out the BigBad (who has by this time assimilated almost all) and quite literally reformat the world into a sunny paradise. Not to mention the heroes being helped by a figure called The Oracle, the hero and the villain have deeply philosophical existentialism/nihilism clashes and the object of assimilation is called... well, The Matrix. Notably, ''Beast Machines'' came out before the Matrix sequels which dealt with SMith's AssimilationPlot.

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* CounterpartComparison: The show has been noted to bear a number of similarities to [[Franchise/TheMatrix]]: ''Franchise/TheMatrix'': a struggle between an all-encompassing robotic evil attempting to reformat the world in its own image and a band of rebels lead by a MessianicArchetype who sacrifices himself to take out the BigBad (who has by this time assimilated almost all) and quite literally reformat the world into a sunny paradise. Not to mention the heroes being helped by a figure called The Oracle, the hero and the villain have deeply philosophical existentialism/nihilism clashes and the object of assimilation is called... well, The Matrix. Notably, ''Beast Machines'' came out before the Matrix sequels which dealt with SMith's AssimilationPlot.
21st Jul '17 1:34:55 AM NhazUl
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: Due to limited use of specular and emissive maps unlike Beast Wars (meaning fewer shiny and glowy effects) explosions are represented by meshes with a solid, ''shaded'' texture.

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* SpecialEffectsFailure: Due to limited use of specular and emissive maps unlike Beast Wars (meaning fewer shiny and glowy effects) explosions are represented by meshes with a solid, ''shaded'' texture. They also ''have shadows''.
21st Jul '17 1:32:50 AM NhazUl
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* CounterpartComparison: The show has been noted to bear a number of similarities to [[Franchise/TheMatrix]]: a struggle between an all-encompassing robotic evil attempting to reformat the world in its own image and a band of rebels lead by a MessianicArchetype who sacrifices himself to take out the BigBad (who has by this time assimilated almost all) and quite literally reformat the world into a sunny paradise. Not to mention the heroes being helped by a figure called The Oracle, the hero and the villain have deeply philosophical existentialism/nihilism clashes and the object of assimilation is called... well, The Matrix.

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* CounterpartComparison: The show has been noted to bear a number of similarities to [[Franchise/TheMatrix]]: a struggle between an all-encompassing robotic evil attempting to reformat the world in its own image and a band of rebels lead by a MessianicArchetype who sacrifices himself to take out the BigBad (who has by this time assimilated almost all) and quite literally reformat the world into a sunny paradise. Not to mention the heroes being helped by a figure called The Oracle, the hero and the villain have deeply philosophical existentialism/nihilism clashes and the object of assimilation is called... well, The Matrix. Notably, ''Beast Machines'' came out before the Matrix sequels which dealt with SMith's AssimilationPlot.
21st Jul '17 1:31:56 AM NhazUl
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* CounterpartComparison: The show has been noted to bear a number of similarities to [[Franchise/TheMatrix]]: a struggle between an all-encompassing robotic evil attempting to reformat the world in its own image and a band of rebels lead by a MessianicArchetype who sacrifices himself to take out the BigBad (who has by this time assimilated almost all) and quite literally reformat the world into a sunny paradise. Not to mention the heroes being helped by a figure called The Oracle, the hero and the villain have deeply philosophical existentialism/nihilism clashes and the object of assimilation is called... well, The Matrix.
4th Jul '17 7:12:43 PM overman2099
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* ContestedSequel: Between longer story arcs, and a darker tone compared to ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'', fans of the original either think this was a good follow-up, or a joke to the franchise.

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* ContestedSequel: Between longer story arcs, and a darker tone compared to ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'', fans of the original either think this was a good follow-up, or a joke to the franchise. Some of the more generous critics were willing to concede that had ''Beast Machines'' been a standalone series with no prior continuity, it would be decent enough on its own merits but as a followup to the critically acclaimed ''Beast Wars'', it just could not measure up as a worthy sequel.
10th May '17 9:58:56 PM RomanBowler
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* ReplacementScrappy: Oddly, Silverbolt became this after Blackarahnia reformatted Jetstorm and restored him in Season 2. Whereas Jetstorm had been an entertaining LaughablyEvil villain, Silverbolt became a KnightInSourArmor rather than the pure, noble hero he had previously been. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking His rather ugly design didn't help]].

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* ReplacementScrappy: Oddly, Downplayed but oddly enough, Silverbolt became this after Blackarahnia reformatted Jetstorm and restored him in Season 2. Whereas Jetstorm had been an entertaining LaughablyEvil villain, Silverbolt became a KnightInSourArmor rather than the pure, noble hero he had previously been. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking His rather ugly design didn't help]].
1st May '17 1:55:45 PM DevinMeenan
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* FridgeLogic: Obsidian and Strika were Autobot during the Great War, [[AllThereInTheManual according to supplementary materials]]. This raises questions about why they unquestioningly served a being named ''Megatron''.



* ReplacementScrappy: Oddly, Silverbolt became this after Blackarahnia reformatted Jetstorm and restored him in Season 2. Whereas Jetstorm had been an entertaining LaughablyEvil villain, Silverbolt become a KnightInSourArmor rather than the pure, noble hero he had previously been. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking His rather ugly design didn't help]].

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* ReplacementScrappy: Oddly, Silverbolt became this after Blackarahnia reformatted Jetstorm and restored him in Season 2. Whereas Jetstorm had been an entertaining LaughablyEvil villain, Silverbolt become became a KnightInSourArmor rather than the pure, noble hero he had previously been. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking His rather ugly design didn't help]].
9th Apr '17 7:01:19 PM MagBas
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* ReplacementScrappy: Oddly, Silverbolt became this after Blackarahnia reformatted Jetstorm and restored him in Season 2. Whereas Jetstorm had been an entertaining LaughablyEvil villain, Silverbolt suffered what is widely perceived as CharacterDerailment, becoming a KnightInSourArmor rather than the pure, noble hero he had previously been. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking His rather ugly design didn't help]].

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* ReplacementScrappy: Oddly, Silverbolt became this after Blackarahnia reformatted Jetstorm and restored him in Season 2. Whereas Jetstorm had been an entertaining LaughablyEvil villain, Silverbolt suffered what is widely perceived as CharacterDerailment, becoming become a KnightInSourArmor rather than the pure, noble hero he had previously been. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking His rather ugly design didn't help]].
3rd Apr '17 3:00:54 PM DevinMeenan
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* ScapegoatCreator: Bob Skir received a great deal of criticism from the fandom - to the point where he had to cancel a convention appearance because he was receiving death threats. While he was indeed one of two story editors, he was blamed for everything a given fan had an issue with. Not exactly fair, especially as Skir didn't develop the series himself and was working from what Marv Wolfman started. Notably, Marty Isenberg (the other story editor) never received such vitriol and his being named story editor of [[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated a later show]] was not met with disdain. This all may have been an unfortunate result of Skir making himself available via his website to fans, who incorrectly took him as the ultimate authority of the show.

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* ReplacementScrappy: Oddly, Silverbolt became this after Blackarahnia reformatted Jetstorm and restored him in Season 2. Whereas Jetstorm had been an entertaining LaughablyEvil villain, Silverbolt suffered what is widely perceived as CharacterDerailment, becoming a KnightInSourArmor rather than the pure, noble hero he had previously been. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking His rather ugly design didn't help]].
* ScapegoatCreator: Bob Skir Skir received a great deal of criticism from the fandom - to the point where he had to cancel a convention appearance because he was receiving death threats. While he was indeed one of two story editors, he was blamed for everything a given fan had an issue with. Not exactly fair, especially as Skir didn't develop the series himself and was working from what Marv Wolfman started. Notably, Marty Isenberg (the other story editor) never received such vitriol and his being named story editor of [[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated a later show]] was not met with disdain. This all may have been an unfortunate result of Skir making himself available via his website to fans, who incorrectly took him as the ultimate authority of the show.
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