History YMMV / BeastMachines

10th May '17 9:58:56 PM RomanBowler
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* ReplacementScrappy: Oddly, Silverbolt became this after Blackarahnia reformatted Jetstorm and restored him in Season 2. Whereas Jetstorm had been an entertaining LaughablyEvil villain, Silverbolt became a KnightInSourArmor rather than the pure, noble hero he had previously been. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking His rather ugly design didn't help]].

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* ReplacementScrappy: Oddly, Downplayed but oddly enough, Silverbolt became this after Blackarahnia reformatted Jetstorm and restored him in Season 2. Whereas Jetstorm had been an entertaining LaughablyEvil villain, Silverbolt became a KnightInSourArmor rather than the pure, noble hero he had previously been. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking His rather ugly design didn't help]].
1st May '17 1:55:45 PM DevinMeenan
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* FridgeLogic: Obsidian and Strika were Autobot during the Great War, [[AllThereInTheManual according to supplementary materials]]. This raises questions about why they unquestioningly served a being named ''Megatron''.



* ReplacementScrappy: Oddly, Silverbolt became this after Blackarahnia reformatted Jetstorm and restored him in Season 2. Whereas Jetstorm had been an entertaining LaughablyEvil villain, Silverbolt become a KnightInSourArmor rather than the pure, noble hero he had previously been. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking His rather ugly design didn't help]].

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* ReplacementScrappy: Oddly, Silverbolt became this after Blackarahnia reformatted Jetstorm and restored him in Season 2. Whereas Jetstorm had been an entertaining LaughablyEvil villain, Silverbolt become became a KnightInSourArmor rather than the pure, noble hero he had previously been. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking His rather ugly design didn't help]].
9th Apr '17 7:01:19 PM MagBas
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* ReplacementScrappy: Oddly, Silverbolt became this after Blackarahnia reformatted Jetstorm and restored him in Season 2. Whereas Jetstorm had been an entertaining LaughablyEvil villain, Silverbolt suffered what is widely perceived as CharacterDerailment, becoming a KnightInSourArmor rather than the pure, noble hero he had previously been. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking His rather ugly design didn't help]].

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* ReplacementScrappy: Oddly, Silverbolt became this after Blackarahnia reformatted Jetstorm and restored him in Season 2. Whereas Jetstorm had been an entertaining LaughablyEvil villain, Silverbolt suffered what is widely perceived as CharacterDerailment, becoming become a KnightInSourArmor rather than the pure, noble hero he had previously been. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking His rather ugly design didn't help]].
3rd Apr '17 3:00:54 PM DevinMeenan
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* ScapegoatCreator: Bob Skir received a great deal of criticism from the fandom - to the point where he had to cancel a convention appearance because he was receiving death threats. While he was indeed one of two story editors, he was blamed for everything a given fan had an issue with. Not exactly fair, especially as Skir didn't develop the series himself and was working from what Marv Wolfman started. Notably, Marty Isenberg (the other story editor) never received such vitriol and his being named story editor of [[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated a later show]] was not met with disdain. This all may have been an unfortunate result of Skir making himself available via his website to fans, who incorrectly took him as the ultimate authority of the show.

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* ReplacementScrappy: Oddly, Silverbolt became this after Blackarahnia reformatted Jetstorm and restored him in Season 2. Whereas Jetstorm had been an entertaining LaughablyEvil villain, Silverbolt suffered what is widely perceived as CharacterDerailment, becoming a KnightInSourArmor rather than the pure, noble hero he had previously been. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking His rather ugly design didn't help]].
* ScapegoatCreator: Bob Skir Skir received a great deal of criticism from the fandom - to the point where he had to cancel a convention appearance because he was receiving death threats. While he was indeed one of two story editors, he was blamed for everything a given fan had an issue with. Not exactly fair, especially as Skir didn't develop the series himself and was working from what Marv Wolfman started. Notably, Marty Isenberg (the other story editor) never received such vitriol and his being named story editor of [[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated a later show]] was not met with disdain. This all may have been an unfortunate result of Skir making himself available via his website to fans, who incorrectly took him as the ultimate authority of the show.
26th Dec '16 1:26:53 PM nombretomado
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** Diagnostic Drone was well-liked, enough to appear in other continuities after BeastMachines.

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** Diagnostic Drone was well-liked, enough to appear in other continuities after BeastMachines.''Beast Machines''.
7th Dec '16 1:38:35 PM NhazUl
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: Due to limited use of specular and emissive maps unlike Beast Wars (meaning fewer shiny and glowy effects) explosions are represented by meshes with a solid, ''shaded'' texture.



* SpecialEffectsFailure: Due to limited use of specular and emissive maps unlike Beast Wars (meaning fewer shiny and glowy effects) explosions are represented by meshes with a solid, ''shaded'' texture.
7th Dec '16 1:37:51 PM NhazUl
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Added DiffLines:

* SpecialEffectsFailure: Due to limited use of specular and emissive maps unlike Beast Wars (meaning fewer shiny and glowy effects) explosions are represented by meshes with a solid, ''shaded'' texture.
27th Aug '16 10:50:30 PM overman2099
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* ToughActToFollow: BeastWars was (and still is) seen as one of, if not THE greatest Transformers shows ever and the one that single-handily rescued the franchise from the DorkAge that was Generation 2. So of course Beast Machines was going to have a hard time measuring up. Made even worse by the fact that writers like Bob Skir were directly ordered NOT to watch Beast Wars, making it a ForegoneConclusion that creating a coherent show with characters from a previous series that you've never watched before would be downright impossible.

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* ToughActToFollow: BeastWars was (and still is) seen as one of, if not THE greatest Transformers shows ever and the one that single-handily rescued the franchise from the DorkAge that was Generation 2. So of course Beast Machines was going to have a hard time measuring up. Made even worse by the fact that writers like Bob Skir were directly ordered NOT to watch Beast Wars, making it a ForegoneConclusion that creating a coherent show with characters from a previous series that you've they've never watched before would be downright impossible.
27th Aug '16 10:49:38 PM overman2099
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* ToughActToFollow: BeastWars was (and still is) seen as one of, if not THE greatest Transformers shows ever and the one that single-handily rescued the franchise from the DorkAge that was Generation 2. So of course Beast Machines was going to have a hard time measuring up.

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* ToughActToFollow: BeastWars was (and still is) seen as one of, if not THE greatest Transformers shows ever and the one that single-handily rescued the franchise from the DorkAge that was Generation 2. So of course Beast Machines was going to have a hard time measuring up. Made even worse by the fact that writers like Bob Skir were directly ordered NOT to watch Beast Wars, making it a ForegoneConclusion that creating a coherent show with characters from a previous series that you've never watched before would be downright impossible.
15th Jul '16 12:48:58 AM baku_destructor
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: Inverted! A lot of aspects from this show that people complain about (stronger continuity, darker storytelling, InNameOnly characters, etc.) would later be used to good effect by later ''Transformers'' series such as the Dreamwave and IDW comics, ''Transformers Animated'', and ''Transformers Prime''. One could consider this show an experimental first step before it's ideas, themes, and methods were perfected by later incarnations of ''Transformers''.

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* FranchiseOriginalSin: Inverted! A lot of aspects from this show that people complain about (stronger continuity, darker storytelling, InNameOnly characters, etc.) would later be used to good effect by later ''Transformers'' series such as the Dreamwave and IDW comics, ''Transformers Animated'', and ''Transformers Prime''. One could consider this show an experimental first step before it's its ideas, themes, and methods were perfected by later incarnations of ''Transformers''.
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