History YMMV / Batwoman

* BaseBreaker:

* BaseBreaker: Some readers like Wolf Spider for being another addition to Batwoman's rogues gallery, for his striking but simple costume design, and for providing a fresh (if lower-key and grounded) storyline to the series. Others hate him for starting off Batwoman's BadassDecay (especially for how cheap his tactics are) and dislike his arc specifically ''because'' of how mundane it is compared to the supernatural elements that were present before.

* BaseBreaker: Some readers like Wolf Spider for being another addition to Batwoman's rogue's gallery, for his striking but simple costume design, and for providing a fresh (if lower-key and grounded) storyline to the series. Others hate him for starting off Batwoman's BadassDecay (especially for how cheap his tactics are) and dislike his arc specifically ''because'' of how mundane it is compared to the supernatural elements that were present before.

** Subsequent issues have Kate getting KO'd from a mook's sucker punch, and having trouble with personal issues that she seems to deal with in out-of-character ways; both items seem out-of-place compared to earlier issues.

* SeasonalRot: Some feel it set in when Greg Rucka left the book, but many felt Blackman and Williams did a good job continuing the story. Most will agree that those two leaving the book is where it went downhill. J.H. Williams's III art is sorely missed, breaking up Maggie and Kate is almost universally agreed upon as bad, and the conclusion to Mr. Bones's arc was rushed after being delayed for four months. Subsequent arcs by Marc Andreyko feel inferior both to the previous Batwoman issues as well as his other work. Some stories feel rushed, with numerous villains and plot points all vying for attention with little build up and often with unsatisfying conclusions. Other stories, like Killer Croc and the heroic Religion of Crime sect, have been dropped entirely. Kate also undergoes significant BadassDecay as she becomes less assertive and gets beat up by a couple of C-list villains who would ordinarily give her no trouble at all, with little to no adequate explanation as to why.

* BadassDecay: In "Webs", the first arc after Blackman and Williams left, Batwoman has trouble fighting C-lister Wolf Spider (who has nowhere near her level of training) and gets pretty beat up. For reference, earlier in this same series Kate fought off ''demigods'' and took almost no damage. She was even able to defeat Bane after he punched her square in the face, and only got moderately bloodied from that and showed no bruising afterward. Even with Wolf Spider's use of fear toxin, his skill against Kate is a bit unbelievable.

* TearJerker: [[TearJerker/{{Batwoman}} Has its own page.]]

* SeasonalRot: Some feel it set in when Greg Rucka left the book, but many felt Blackman and Williams did a good job continuing the story. Most will agree that those two leaving the book is where it went downhill. J.H. Williams's III art is sorely missed, breaking up Maggie and Kate is almost universally agreed upon as bad, and the conclusion to Mr. Bones's arc was rushed after being delayed for four months. Subsequent arcs by Marc Andreyko feel inferior both to the previous Batwoman issues as well as his other work. The stories feel rushed with numerous villains and plot points all vying for attention with little build up while other stories, like Killer Croc and the heroic Religion of Crime sect, have been dropped.

* BadassDecay: In "Webs", the first arc after Blackman and Williams left, Batwoman has trouble fighting C-lister Wolf Spider (who has nowhere near her level of training) and gets pretty beat up. For reference, earlier in this same series Kate fought off ''demigods'' and took almost no damage, and she was even able to stand after Bane punched her square in the face. Even with Wolf Spider's use of fear toxin, it's a bit unbelievable.

* InternetBacklash: DC's [[ExecutiveMeddling refusal]] to let Kate and Maggie Sawyer get married, even though both had been openly lesbian for years now caused some BIG backlash on the internet and lots of accusations of DoubleStandard and homophobia (though Dan Didio eventually revealed he has it as a rule that ''no'' heroes [[TrueArtIsAngsty can have a happy life]]). It was made even worse when it turned out that this had led to the current creative team [[WriterRevolt quitting in disgust]].

* InternetBacklash: DC's [[ExecutiveMeddling refusal]] to let Kate and Maggie Sawyer get married, even though both had been openly lesbian for years now caused some BIG backlash on the internet and lots of accusations of DoubleStandard and homophobia. It was made even worse when it turned out that this had led to the current creative team [[WriterRevolt quitting in disgust]].

* SeasonalRot: Some feel it set in when Greg Rucka left the book, but many felt Blackman and Williams did a good job continuing the story. Most will agree that those two leaving the book is where it went downhill. J.H. Williams's III art is sorely missed, breaking up Maggie and Kate is almost universally agreed upon as bad, and the conclusion to Mr. Bones's arc was rushed after being delayed for four months. Subsequent arcs by Marc Andreyko feel inferior both to the previous Batwoman issues as well as his other work. Finally the current stories feel rushed with numerous villains and plot points all vying for attention with little build up while other stories, like Killer Croc and the heroic Religion of Crime sect, have been dropped.

* ExecutiveMeddling: Apparently J.H. Williams III did not want to do ''Batwoman #0'', but was told he had to in order to increase the reader base. Likewise, Williams wanted to do a villain issue for "Villains Month" only to have cancelled. It eventually got too much for him and Blackman, with the final straw being DC saying no to letting Maggie and Kate get married[[note]]both Williams and Blackman deny that DC's refusal to let the two marry had anything to do with anti-gay bias, and instead say it's a general extension of DC's anti-marriage policies that have lead to Lois and Superman's break up, among others, and the openly gay Marc Andreyko is taking over the title[[/note]], so the two [[http://comicsalliance.com/batwoman-jh-williams-haden-blackman-leave-series-editorial-marriage/ are now leaving the series]].

* ScheduleSlip: The first issue of her new series was originally supposed to be released in February 2011. It was pushed back to April, and then to September as part of DC's company-wide relaunch.

* TearJerker: [[TearJerker/{{Batwoman}} Has its own page.]]
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Sadly, despite her relatively short history in the DC universe Kate has several examples of this, largely because of [[ExecutiveMeddling editorial issues]].
** Batwoman was initially touted as one of the main characters in James Robinson's ''Franchise/{{Justice League|of America}}'' spin-off book ''ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice'', and was heavily featured in promotional material for the book and even got a spot on the first cover. When the book was shortened and turned into a mini-series thanks to [[ExecutiveMeddling a decision from the higher-ups]], Batwoman's appearances in the title were regulated to scattered cameos and a brief supporting role in the fifth issue. The writer later apologized for performing an unintentional bait-and-switch on fans of the character.
** Likewise, had Creator/GregRucka stayed with the book he intended to address the consequences of the repeal of DADT, including finding out who had reported Kate back when the policy was still active, and have Kate grapple with the possibility of returning to the military as an out soldier. Alice's origin would have also been addressed, along with revealing whether or not she'd survived the plunge into the river.
** Williams and Blackman's run has also boiled down to this trope, due to them leaving DC and their final two issues being scrapped. Alice's origin would have been delved into, as would that of Director Bones (and clarifying whether or not he was related to the Kanes). Kate and Maggie were also to move further in their relationship and get married, which was a point that DC forbid and that lead to the writers' departure. While their story was concluded in an Annual, they have both made it clear that the Annual was not ''their'' ending.

** Batwoman was initially touted as one of the main characters in James Robinson's ''JusticeLeague'' spin-off book ''ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice'', and was heavily featured in promotional material for the book and even got a spot on the first cover. When the book was shortened and turned into a mini-series thanks to [[ExecutiveMeddling a decision from the higher-ups]], Batwoman's appearances in the title were regulated to scattered cameos and a brief supporting role in the fifth issue. The writer later apologized for performing an unintentional bait-and-switch on fans of the character.

* HilariousInHindsight: Given the heavy amount of ExecutiveMeddling used on ''CryForJustice'', it's probably a very good thing that Batwoman didn't have a stronger role in the story. This can be further strengthened by how universally reviled the series ended up being.

** Batwoman was initially touted as one of the main characters in James Robinson's ''JusticeLeague'' spin-off book ''CryForJustice'', and was heavily featured in promotional material for the book and even got a spot on the first cover. When the book was shortened and turned into a mini-series thanks to [[ExecutiveMeddling a decision from the higher-ups]], Batwoman's appearances in the title were regulated to scattered cameos and a brief supporting role in the fifth issue. The writer later apologized for performing an unintentional bait-and-switch on fans of the character.

* UnfortunateImplications: Zig-zagged on the issue of Kate and Maggie marry. It's apparently not a decision driven by homophobia, but rather because DC editorial don't want their characters marrying... which in turn raises more unfortunate implications over DC comics views on marriage.
** In a recent issue, a female vampire breaks into Kate's home, hypnotizes her into thinking that the villain is her lover Maggie, and feeds on her in a sensual manner. Later, the two are shown to be in a sexual relationship. Most certainly a case of DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnFemale.

* TearJerker: In #3, Kate is attacked by the Weeping Woman and subjected to MindRape. Recognizing what a threat this woman is, Kate returns to her apartment and tells Bette that their partnership is over in order to protect her. Bette presses her for a valid reason, to which Kate coldly tells her that Bette is nothing more than a glorified pageant queen who can never understand what really drives superheroes like Kate, because all she's ever lost is "a tennis match". Bette slaps Kate and tells her that she probably would've driven away her mother and sister had they not died, then calls her a control freak before leaving. When Maggie Sawyer shows up at Kate's apartment demanding to know why she was stood up, Kate starts crying in her arms.

* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Sadly, despite her relatively short history in the DC universe Kate has several examples of this, largely because of editorial issues. Given that both members of the original creative team have now left the book it's unlikely any of their plans will ever be brought to fruition.

** Williams and Blackman's run has also boiled down to this trope, due to them leaving DC and their final two issues being scrapped. Alice's origin would have been delved into, as would that of Director Bones (and clarifying whether or not he was related to the Kanes). Kate and Maggie were also to move further in their relationship and get married, which was a point that DC forbid and that lead to the writers' departure.

* UnfortunateImplications: Zig-zagged on the issue of Kate and Maggie marry. It's apparently not a decision driven by homophobia, but rather because DC editorial don't want their characters marrying... which in turn raises more unfortunate implications over DC comics views on marriage.

* TearJerker: In #3, Kate is attacked by the Weeping Woman and subjected to MindRape. Recognizing what a threat this woman is, Kate returns to her apartment and tells Bette that their partnership is over in order to protect her. Bette presses her for a valid reason, to which Kate coldly tells her that Bette is nothing more than a glorified pageant queen who can never understand what really drives superheroes like Kate, because all she's ever lost is "a tennis match". Bette slaps Kate and tells her that she probably would've driven away her mother and sister had they not died, then calls her a control freak before leaving. When Maggie Sawyer shows up at Kate's apartment demanding to know why she was stood up, Kate starts crying in her arms.

* AwesomeArt: J. H. Williams III earned two Eisner Awards for his work in the initial Detective Comics run, and later won an Inkwell Award for the titular series

* CompleteMonster: Maro, introduced in #6. [[spoilers: He purposefully drowned the children of Maria, the woman who would go on to kill herself and become the Weeping Woman, because his magic relies on the power of belief. Because people believe in the legend of the Weeping Woman, Maro intended to use that to keep Maria from passing on after she inevitably killed herself and transform her into the urban legend, and she would go on to steal and/or kill more children.]]

* HilariousInHindsight: Given the heavy amount of ExecutiveMeddling used on ''CryForJustice'', it's probably a very good thing that Batwoman didn't have a stronger role in the story. This can be further strengthened by how universally reviled the series ended up being.