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* TheWoobie: Stephanie Brown was nearly killed by her father both directly and indirectly, and her mother has also sold her out to said father. By Issue 10 she's too scared to go home, so she sleeps in the library.
** Issue 13 implies she has may have spent at least some of her time hiding out at a friend's house. [[spoiler: Said house and her friend are blown to kingdom come in the same issue]].
** Until issue 20, she attempts to get word out by reporting on Cluemaster's activities onto a gossip blog, but no one believes her warnings and just laugh off her father's previous criminal activities. Eventually it seems the other users stop paying attention to her posts entirely when she tries using fake post titles to get attention, making her realize that now, she's completely alone. Its this realization that prompts her to finally don a costume and take down her father herself.

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* TheWoobie: Stephanie Brown was nearly killed by Brown. When introduced, she stubles upon her father's role in the villains plot, and with that, discovers what is going on, forcing her father both directly and indirectly, and to attempt to kill her. She's forced to go on the run, unable to go home as her mother has also sold sells her out to said father. By Issue 10 she's too scared to go home, so out, and the only friend she sleeps in the library.
** Issue 13 implies she has may have spent at least some of her time hiding out at a friend's house.
could go to [[spoiler: Said house and her friend are is blown to kingdom come in the same issue]].
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issue 20, they're introduced]]. During this time, she attempts to get word out by reporting on Cluemaster's activities onto a gossip blog, but no one noone believes her warnings and just laugh off her father's previous criminal activities. Eventually it seems the other users stop paying attention to her posts entirely when she tries using fake post titles to get attention, making her realize that now, she's completely alone. Its this realization that prompts her to finally don a costume and take down her father herself.herself, but while she's able to take him down, her attempts to expose the full plan backfire, resulting in a million dollar bounty being placed on her head by the BigBad, forcing her to go on the run once more, this time with no place to hide.
** ThePollyana: As with the pre-New 52 universe, despite these turn of events, she continues to fight on, and is still able to joke and take this all in stride.
** Commissioner Gordon is a similar case. Framed for mass-manslaughter in the first issue, he's denied bail and charged, and even though he helps stop a riot and takes everything in stride, he's convicted and sentenced to life in prison, with his only way out being destroyed. Counts as an IronWoobie, since he refuses to give up or betray his principles, and instead encourages Batman to focus on what's going on rather than himself.
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** For some fans who were initially disappointed with New52 Bat family stories, this series is a WinBackTheCrowd moment. Others, however, have found the art and writing quality to be wildly inconsistent, and do not like how each weekly issues jumps around from [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters character to character]] while tackling an [[FourLinesAllWaiting absurd number of subplots]].

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** For some fans who were initially disappointed with New52 Bat family stories, this series is a WinBackTheCrowd moment. Others, however, have found the art and writing quality to be wildly inconsistent, and do not like how each weekly issues jumps around from [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters character to character]] while tackling an [[FourLinesAllWaiting absurd number of subplots]].



* RomanticPlotTumor: The ShipTease between Jason and Barbara has been criticized for tainting what was otherwise interesting non-romantic character development between the two. It also made Jason and Barbara act wildly out of character. While the book on the subplot has seemingly been closed for the time being, there are still implications for a potential inter-Batfamily love triangle that fans do not want to see.

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* RomanticPlotTumor: The ShipTease between Jason Todd and Barbara Gordon has been criticized for tainting what was otherwise interesting non-romantic character development between the two. It also made Jason and Barbara act wildly out of character.two. While the book on the subplot has seemingly been closed for the time being, there are still implications for a potential inter-Batfamily love triangle that fans do not want to see.
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* RomanticPlotTumor: The ShipTease between Jason and Barbara has been criticized for tainting what was otherwise interesting non-romantic character development between the two. It also made Barbara act wildly out of character. While the book on the subplot has seemingly been closed for the time being, there are still implications for a potential inter-Batfamily love triangle that fans do not want to see.

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* RomanticPlotTumor: The ShipTease between Jason and Barbara has been criticized for tainting what was otherwise interesting non-romantic character development between the two. It also made Jason and Barbara act wildly out of character. While the book on the subplot has seemingly been closed for the time being, there are still implications for a potential inter-Batfamily love triangle that fans do not want to see.

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** The Arkham Asylum subplot has finally resurfaced in Issue #29. It was last seen in Issue #17, where it had ended on a cliffhanger.



** For some fans who were initially disappointed with New52 Bat family stories, this series is a WinBackTheCrowd moment. Others, however, have found the art and writing quality to be wildly inconsistent, and do not like how each weekly issues jumps around from [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters character to character]] while tackling an [[FourLinesAllWaiting absurd number of subplots]].



* RomanticPlotTumor: The ShipTease between Jason and Barbara has been criticized for putting a damper on what was otherwise interesting non-romantic character development between the two. It also made Barbara act out of character at times. While the book on the subplot has seemingly been closed for the time being, there are still implications for a potential inter-Batfamily love triangle that fans do not want to see.

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* RomanticPlotTumor: The ShipTease between Jason and Barbara has been criticized for putting a damper on tainting what was otherwise interesting non-romantic character development between the two. It also made Barbara act wildly out of character at times.character. While the book on the subplot has seemingly been closed for the time being, there are still implications for a potential inter-Batfamily love triangle that fans do not want to see.



* WinBackTheCrowd: For people who were disappointed by the New 52 Batfamily comics.
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* BadassDecay: Jason Bard seemed to be downgraded from MagnificentBastard rather quickly after the reveal of Hush.


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** Now that [[spoiler: she's taken over MissionControl with Alfred comatose, Julia Pennyworth]] is starting to become one of the more popular characters, thanks to her [[DeadpanSnarker snarkiness]] and LampshadeHanging.


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** Barbara attacking and nearly killing Jason Bard is amusing, given that prior to {{Flashpoint}}, Bard was a love interest to her.


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* RomanticPlotTumor: The ShipTease between Jason and Barbara has been criticized for putting a damper on what was otherwise interesting non-romantic character development between the two. It also made Barbara act out of character at times. While the book on the subplot has seemingly been closed for the time being, there are still implications for a potential inter-Batfamily love triangle that fans do not want to see.
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* FashionVictimVillain: Cluemaster's outfit is as garish as ever, this time even earning a LampshadeHanging from Spoiler. To his credit it's nowhere near as eye-scarring as his pre-New 52 costume, but special mention must go to his '[=CluE=]' goggles.

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* FashionVictimVillain: Cluemaster's outfit is as garish as ever, this time even earning a LampshadeHanging from Spoiler. To his credit it's nowhere near as eye-scarring as his pre-New 52 costume, but special mention must go to [[http://multiversitycomics.com/wp-content/themes/zillionlabs/images/timthumb.php?src=http://multiversitystatic.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2014/09/Batman-Eternal-24-Clue-Glasses.jpg&q=95&w=488&zc=1&a=t his '[=CluE=]' goggles.'CluE' goggles]].
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* FashionVictimVillain: Cluemaster's outfit is as garish as ever, this time even earning a LampshadeHanging from Spoiler. To his credit it's nowhere near as eye-scarring as his pre-New 52 costume.

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* FashionVictimVillain: Cluemaster's outfit is as garish as ever, this time even earning a LampshadeHanging from Spoiler. To his credit it's nowhere near as eye-scarring as his pre-New 52 costume.costume, but special mention must go to his '[=CluE=]' goggles.



* {{HSQ}}: Very high. Given that we ''know'' it's going to end with Gotham is flames, the story starts shocking and only goes from there.

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* {{HSQ}}: Very high. Given that we ''know'' it's going to end with Gotham is in flames, the story starts shocking and only goes from there.



** Cluemaster cheerfully skips across the horizon for his whole appearance here. For one thing, he's ''way'' too quickly jumps to "gotta murder my daughter cause she caught me being a bad guy".

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** Cluemaster cheerfully skips across the horizon for his whole appearance here. For one thing, he's ''way'' too quickly jumps to "gotta murder my daughter cause she caught me being a bad guy". In fairness, he doesn't ''want'' to kill Steph, [[YouHaveFailedMe but if he doesn't]], his superiors are going to kill ''him.''

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* MoralEventHorizon: Cluemaster cheerfully skips across the horizon for his whole appearance here. For one thing, he's ''way'' too quickly jumps to "gotta murder my daughter cause she caught me being a bad guy".

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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
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Cluemaster cheerfully skips across the horizon for his whole appearance here. For one thing, he's ''way'' too quickly jumps to "gotta murder my daughter cause she caught me being a bad guy".
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* FashionVictimVillain: Cluemaster's outfit is as garish as ever, this time even earning a LampshadeHanging from Spoiler. To his credit it's nowhere near as eye-scarring as his pre-New 52 costume.


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* {{HSQ}}: Very high. Given that we ''know'' it's going to end with Gotham is flames, the story starts shocking and only goes from there.


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* MoralEventHorizon: Cluemaster cheerfully skips across the horizon for his whole appearance here. For one thing, he's ''way'' too quickly jumps to "gotta murder my daughter cause she caught me being a bad guy".
** [[spoiler: Jason Bard snapping the USB that can exonerate Gordon.]]
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* ArcFatigue: A lot of the plot points move slowly thanks to so many plotlines being involved in the story, making it feel like some stories don't go anywhere; to compensate, the last few issues have decided to focus on one or two subplots at a time and develop those, then rotate between which story gets focused on.

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* ArcFatigue: A lot of the plot points move slowly thanks to so many plotlines being involved in the story, making it feel like some stories don't go anywhere; to compensate, around issue 20, the last few issues have decided to focus on one or two subplots at a time and develop those, then rotate between which story gets focused on.
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* BrokenBase: There's a split between those who think Gordon ''should'' be locked up for the train accident and those who, like the Bat Family, see him as not responsible. Mainly, regardless of seeing a gun or not, Gordon still tried to shoot the gun out of the perp's hand, which as well as being a dangerous shot, also breaks police protocol and was just generally a risky move that he shouldn't have done. However, its pointed out that the fusebox being shot shouldn't have caused the accident (backed up by the trains apparently already having trouble before Gordon fired the shot) and that its possible that whatever messed with his mind also made him think making such a shot was a good idea.

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* BrokenBase: There's a split between those who think Gordon ''should'' be locked up for the train accident and those who, like the Bat Family, see him as not responsible. Mainly, regardless of seeing a gun or not, Gordon still tried to shoot the gun out of the perp's hand, which as well as being a dangerous shot, also breaks police protocol and was just generally a risky move that he shouldn't have done.done, along with the fact that the charge, "manslaughter", means that people died by accident from his actions, which is precisely what happened. However, its pointed out that the fusebox being shot shouldn't have caused the accident (backed up by the trains apparently already having trouble before Gordon fired the shot) and that its possible that whatever messed with his mind also made him think making such a shot was a good idea.
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* BrokenBase: There's a split between those who think Gordon ''should'' be locked up for the train accident and those who, like the Bat Family, see him as not responsible. Mainly, regardless of seeing a gun or not, Gordon still tried to shoot the gun out of the perp's hand, which as well as being a dangerous shot, also breaks police protocol and was just generally a risky move that he shouldn't have done. However, its pointed out that the fusebox being shot shouldn't have caused the accident (backed up by the trains apparently already having trouble before Gordon fired the shot) and that its possible that whatever messed with his mind also made him think making such a shot was a good idea.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: [[spoiler: The revelation that Jason Bard is manipulating everyone makes all of his heroic moments now cast in very different light. On top of that, his conversation with his mother over the phone in the first issue that seemed to be to acknowledge how young and naive he is, now has considerably different implications now that we know that 'Mother' is actually the codename for TheManBehindTheMan.]]

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** One of the subplots in particular is Julia Pennyworth's lack of respect for her father's choice of career. Every time it cuts back to her, she's repeating the same complaints about how her father turned back on a career in the secret service to 'babysit a playboy', and doesn't seem to be going anywhere anytime soon.
* CreepyAwesome: Killer Croc is a pretty creepy looking being, due to his monsterous appearance and [[ImAHumanitarian habit of eating people]]. He's also the protector of the Underground, and will stop at ''nothing'' to protect the homeless vagrants who live there.

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** One of the subplots in particular is Julia Pennyworth's lack of respect for her father's choice of career. Every time it cuts back to her, she's repeating the same complaints about how her father turned back on a career in the secret service to 'babysit a playboy', and doesn't seem to be going anywhere anytime soon.
playboy'. It ''does'' finally start moving forward, however, but not until ''issue 21''.
* CreepyAwesome: Killer Croc is a pretty creepy looking being, due to his monsterous monstrous appearance and [[ImAHumanitarian habit of eating people]]. He's also the protector of the Underground, and will stop at ''nothing'' to protect the homeless vagrants who live there.



* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: Harper Rowe has some strong similarities to pre-Flashpoint Stephanie Brown, ones that unfortunately become even more clearer and seem less original during part of Eternal's early plots. Both are girls from the wrong side of the street with loser fathers in Blackgate, and both become unwanted partners to Tim Drake before he accepted them. This is kind of justified, as Harper was originally conceived as a replacement ''for'' Stephanie and. Cassandra Cain.

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* MagnificentBastard: [[spoiler: Jason Bard secures himself in this position; first by forcing Forbes to charge Falcone's men by having Vicky Vale around to report on any open displays of corruption, then taking down Falcone, Forbes, and Penguin, and damaging Hady's press, by using the previous act to get evidence of Fobres' working with Falcone and then tipping Penguin off to Falcone's location, resulting in all three being caught guilty. In #21, however, it turns out he's actually been playing ''everyone'' he's encountered, even Batman, and while Batman doesn't like him, he has no idea what he's actually doing.]]
* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: Harper Rowe Row has some strong similarities to pre-Flashpoint Stephanie Brown, ones that unfortunately become even more clearer and seem less original during part of Eternal's early plots. Both are girls from the wrong side of the street with loser fathers in Blackgate, and both become unwanted partners to Tim Drake before he accepted them. This is kind of justified, as Harper was originally conceived as a replacement ''for'' Stephanie and. and Cassandra Cain.Cain back when they were benched.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: Harper Rowe has some strong similarities to pre-Flashpoint Stephanie Brown, ones that unfortunately become even more clearer and seem less original during part of Eternal's early plots. Both are girls from the wrong side of the street with loser fathers in Blackgate, and both become unwanted partners to Tim Drake before he accepted them. This is kind of justified, as Harper was originally conceived as a replacement ''for'' Stephanie and. Cassandra Cain.
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* CreepyAwesome: Killer Croc is a pretty creepy looking being, due to his monsterous appearance and [[ImAHumanitarian habit of eating people]]. He's also the protector of the Underground, and will stop at ''nothing'' to protect the homeless vagrants who live there.
** Penguin also proves that there's a ''[[OneManArmy very good reason]]'' he runs crime in Gotham, despite his unimpressive build and apparent cowardice.
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** Issue 13 implies she has may have spent at least some of her time hiding out at a friend's house. [[spoiler: Said house and her friend are blown to kingdom come in the same issue]].

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** Issue 13 implies she has may have spent at least some of her time hiding out at a friend's house. [[spoiler: Said house and her friend are blown to kingdom come in the same issue]].issue]].
** Until issue 20, she attempts to get word out by reporting on Cluemaster's activities onto a gossip blog, but no one believes her warnings and just laugh off her father's previous criminal activities. Eventually it seems the other users stop paying attention to her posts entirely when she tries using fake post titles to get attention, making her realize that now, she's completely alone. Its this realization that prompts her to finally don a costume and take down her father herself.
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** The more noble and heroic depiction of Killer Croc is also well received; its not a new take (in fact, he was like this before he became a monstrous cannibal), but its a well regarded one that has been welcomed.
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** Harper Row is quickly becoming another fan favorite.
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* ArcFatigue: A lot of the plot points move slowly thanks to so many plotlines being involved in the story, making it feel like some stories don't go anywhere; to compensate, the last few issues have decided to focus on one or two subplots at a time and develop those, then rotate between which story gets focused on.
** One of the subplots in particular is Julia Pennyworth's lack of respect for her father's choice of career. Every time it cuts back to her, she's repeating the same complaints about how her father turned back on a career in the secret service to 'babysit a playboy', and doesn't seem to be going anywhere anytime soon.
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* WinBackTheCrowd: For people who were disappointed by the New 52 Batfamily comics.
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* TheWoobie: Stephanie Brown was nearly killed by her father both directly and indirectly, and her mother has also sold her out to said father. By Issue 10 she's too scared to go home, so she sleeps in the library.

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* TheWoobie: Stephanie Brown was nearly killed by her father both directly and indirectly, and her mother has also sold her out to said father. By Issue 10 she's too scared to go home, so she sleeps in the library.library.
** Issue 13 implies she has may have spent at least some of her time hiding out at a friend's house. [[spoiler: Said house and her friend are blown to kingdom come in the same issue]].
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* TheWoobie: Stephanie Brown was nearly killed by her father both directly and indirectly, and though she doesn't know it, her mother has also sold her out to said father.

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* TheWoobie: Stephanie Brown was nearly killed by her father both directly and indirectly, and though she doesn't know it, her mother has also sold her out to said father.father. By Issue 10 she's too scared to go home, so she sleeps in the library.
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* TheWoobie: Stephanie Brown was nearly killed by her father, and though she doesn't know it, her mother has also sold her out to said father.

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* TheWoobie: Stephanie Brown was nearly killed by her father, father both directly and indirectly, and though she doesn't know it, her mother has also sold her out to said father.
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** Issue 2 reintroduces [[spoiler: Carmine "the Roman" Falcone and the Cult's Deacon Blackfire]].

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** Issue 2 reintroduces [[spoiler: Carmine "the Roman" Falcone and the Cult's Deacon Blackfire]].Blackfire]].
* TheWoobie: Stephanie Brown was nearly killed by her father, and though she doesn't know it, her mother has also sold her out to said father.
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* CompleteMonster: Jack Forbes; if he has any redeeming features, we haven't seen them yet.
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* CompleteMonster: Jack Forbes; if he has any redeeming features, we haven't seen them yet.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Fan favorite Stephanie Brown returns to the DC here. But the first issue also features the return of Jason Bard.
** Seems to be the series' main appeal early on to doubters; issue 2 reintroduces [[spoiler: Carmine "the Roman" Falcone and the Cult's Deacon Blackfire.]]

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Fan favorite A major appeal for early doubters.
** Though she doesn't really show up in full until Issue 3,
Stephanie Brown returns Brown's return to the DC here. But DCU was hyped up a lot beforehand, including her being the LivingMacGuffin for the FlashForward in Batman #28, and the fact that the preview for issue 3 of the main series (where she debuts) was released by DC ''before'' the one for the upcoming Issue 2.
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first issue also features the return of Jason Bard.
** Seems to be the series' main appeal early on to doubters; issue Issue 2 reintroduces [[spoiler: Carmine "the Roman" Falcone and the Cult's Deacon Blackfire.]]Blackfire]].
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Fan favorite Stephanie Brown returns to the DC here. But the first issue also features the return of Jason Bard.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Fan favorite Stephanie Brown returns to the DC here. But the first issue also features the return of Jason Bard.Bard.
** Seems to be the series' main appeal early on to doubters; issue 2 reintroduces [[spoiler: Carmine "the Roman" Falcone and the Cult's Deacon Blackfire.]]
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Fan favorite Stephanie Brown returns to the DC here. But the first issue also features the return of Jason Bard.

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