History YMMV / BatmanBegins

15th Sep '17 1:32:21 PM CaptainCrawdad
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** Depending on how you interpret some of Scarecrow's dialogue, he could be a case of EvenEvilHasStandards. When Falcone says there's "an answer" to idealistic prosecutors, Crane says he doesn't want to know. Is it indignation, or just fear of the potential consequences of knowing that information? When Ducard says that Crane thought the league's plan was to hold Gotham to ransom, does this mean he wouldn't have supported genocide, or that he only got involved because he saw something in it for him?
8th Sep '17 4:18:40 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* FirstInstallmentWins:
** Inverted; the movie's two sequels were what drew attention to ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy''.
** Played straight for those who felt underwhelmed by the sequels' lacks of gritty atmosphere that was noticable in ''Begins''.
19th Aug '17 8:59:39 AM VagabondPeafowl
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** In the comics, Commissioner Loeb is white. He is played by black British actor Colin {{MacFarlane}} in the film.

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** In the comics, Commissioner Loeb is white. He is played by black British actor Colin {{MacFarlane}} [=MacFarlane=] in the film.
19th Aug '17 8:57:47 AM VagabondPeafowl
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** In the comics, Commissioner Loeb is white. He is played by black British actor Colin MacFarlane in the film.

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** In the comics, Commissioner Loeb is white. He is played by black British actor Colin MacFarlane {{MacFarlane}} in the film.
19th Aug '17 8:57:07 AM VagabondPeafowl
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** In the superhero film featuring Batman, white actor Liam Neeson plays Ra's al Ghul, who is traditionally depicted in Batman comics to be of Arab descent

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** In the superhero film featuring Batman, white actor Liam Neeson plays Ra's al Ghul, who is traditionally depicted in Batman comics to be of Arab descent descent.
** In the comics, Commissioner Loeb is white. He is played by black British actor Colin MacFarlane in the film.
11th Jun '17 12:22:00 PM AFP
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** The CEO who takes over Wayne Enterprises after Thomas & Martha's deaths can fall victim to this. Is he a {{Jerkass}} RegentForLife for refusing to hand the company over to Bruce; or is he justified in not handing the company over to Bruce, as young Master Wayne was pronounced dead ''several years ago'' and has no experience in the business world?

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** The CEO who takes over Wayne Enterprises after Thomas & Martha's deaths can fall victim to this. Is he a {{Jerkass}} RegentForLife for refusing to hand the company over to Bruce; or is he justified in not handing the company over to Bruce, as young Master Wayne was pronounced dead ''several years ago'' and has no experience in the business world? Indeed, none of Bruce's [[RichIdiotWithNoDayJob public behavior]] lends itself to implying he's responsible enough to run the company.
17th May '17 11:03:00 AM Owlorange1995
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* {{Narm}}: Shane Rimmer's lines [[MrExposition as a water technician]] as Ra's Al Ghul's train hurtles towards him are perhaps the clunkiest and worst-written in the entire franchise. Fans of Podcast/RiffTrax can almost hear Mike say "got that audience?" in the background. Nevertheless, he puts the required effort into them, and the audience feels happy when he survives.

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* {{Narm}}: NarmCharm: Shane Rimmer's lines [[MrExposition as a water technician]] as Ra's Al Ghul's train hurtles towards him are perhaps the clunkiest and worst-written in the entire franchise. Fans of Podcast/RiffTrax can almost hear Mike say "got that audience?" in the background. Nevertheless, he puts the required effort into them, and the audience feels happy when he survives.
26th Apr '17 2:51:07 PM clarkd1486
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* RaceLift:
**In the superhero film featuring Batman, white actor Liam Neeson plays Ra's al Ghul, who is traditionally depicted in Batman comics to be of Arab descent
19th Apr '17 6:08:10 PM Animeking1108
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* DesignatedHero: As ''WebVideo/HonestTrailers'' pointed out, Bruce commits a lot of crimes in his pursuit of justice, including arson (burning down the League of Shadows dojo), vigilante interrogation, property damage (the aforementioned dojo arson, as well as many cars and buildings with the Tumbler), manslaughter (the people that died in the fire, including the [[spoiler: fake Ra's Al Ghul]], and MurderByInaction (leaving [[spoiler: the real Ra's Al Ghul for dead]]). This is something that is thankfully rectified in the sequels.
2nd Mar '17 7:02:26 AM NightShade96
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* BrokenBase: "I won't kill you, [[spoiler:but I don't have to save you." Justified loophole to Batman's one rule, or cruel decision that equals the same as murder?]]

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* BrokenBase: BrokenBase:
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"I won't kill you, [[spoiler:but I don't have to save you." Justified loophole to Batman's one rule, or cruel decision that equals the same as murder?]]



* FirstInstallmentWins: Inverted; the movie's two sequels were what drew attention to ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''.

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* FirstInstallmentWins: FirstInstallmentWins:
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Inverted; the movie's two sequels were what drew attention to ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''.''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy''.



** Scarecrow seeing a demon Batman [[spoiler:after being dosed on his own fear gas]] also happened in ''Batman:TAS'', specifically his debut, "Nothing to Fear".

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** Scarecrow seeing a demon Batman [[spoiler:after being dosed on his own fear gas]] also happened in ''Batman:TAS'', ''Batman: TAS'', specifically his debut, "Nothing to Fear".



** Which is how we now know [[MemeticMutation Batman is responsible for Eddard Stark's death]].

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** *** Which is how we now know [[MemeticMutation Batman is responsible for Eddard Stark's death]].
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