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* CompleteMonster: Once she realizes what Baba Yaga's potion did to her, she goes full on feral- destroying everything, only speaking in roars and acting very animalistic as she does all of this.
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* CompleteMonster: Once she realizes what Baba Yaga's potion did to her, she Ludmilla goes full on feral- destroying everything, only speaking in roars and acting very animalistic as she does all of this.
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* Complete Monster: Once she realizes what Baba Yaga's potion did to her, she goes full on feral- destroying everything, only speaking in roars and acting very animalistic as she does all of this.
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* Complete Monster: CompleteMonster: Once she realizes what Baba Yaga's potion did to her, she goes full on feral- destroying everything, only speaking in roars and acting very animalistic as she does all of this.
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*Complete Monster: Once she realizes what Baba Yaga's potion did to her, she goes full on feral- destroying everything, only speaking in roars and acting very animalistic as she does all of this.
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** When she discovers that Ivan is alive, she makes a slight NightmareFace demanding Vol why he just locked him in the tower didn't kill him in the first place, discarding her usual forced politeness.
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** When she discovers that Ivan is alive, she makes a slight NightmareFace demanding Vol why he just locked him in the tower didn't kill him in the first place, discarding her usual forced politeness.politeness to engage in [[SuddenlyShouting angered and threatening shouting that makes her briefly menacing]].
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* UncannyValley: The Skull being rendered in early [=CGI=] moves and looks unnatural compared to the traditionally animated cast, which considering its otherworldly nature was deliberate.
** Ludmilla seems pretty at a first glance, but her proportions are too thin to be natural with her face being slightly exaggerated with her nose being slightly serpentine with an enlarged mouth that is forced to be smaller than it actually is.
*** Her transformation prior to the completed [[{{Narm}} clownish and cartoonish dragon form]] invokes this with her elegant features juxtaposed with the gradually obese reptilian form, initially with her tail, then cartoonishly large hands, wide reptilian bosom/hips to her beautiful head, then her face plastered like a mask over the dragon's head. Leading to several surreal moments.
** Ludmilla seems pretty at a first glance, but her proportions are too thin to be natural with her face being slightly exaggerated with her nose being slightly serpentine with an enlarged mouth that is forced to be smaller than it actually is.
*** Her transformation prior to the completed [[{{Narm}} clownish and cartoonish dragon form]] invokes this with her elegant features juxtaposed with the gradually obese reptilian form, initially with her tail, then cartoonishly large hands, wide reptilian bosom/hips to her beautiful head, then her face plastered like a mask over the dragon's head. Leading to several surreal moments.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Ludmilla crosses it by leaving Bartok, Ivan and Vol to die to drown, not to mention her initial plan was to have Prince Ivan be assassinated by Vol in the first place to gain the throne, and did the former action once she found out that Prince Ivan had been spared. To emphasis this more, she spends one more moment before her infamous BitByBitTransformation before rubbing how their deaths by drowning would be horrible .
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* MoralEventHorizon: Ludmilla crosses it by leaving Bartok, Ivan and Vol to die to drown, not to mention her initial plan was to have Prince Ivan be assassinated by Vol in the first place to gain the throne, and did the former action once she found out that Prince Ivan had been spared. To emphasis this more, she spends one more moment before her infamous BitByBitTransformation before rubbing how their deaths by drowning would be horrible .horrible.
** When she discovers that Ivan is alive, she makes a slight NightmareFace demanding Vol why he just locked him in the tower didn't kill him in the first place, discarding her usual forced politeness.
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* ObviousJudas: Even before the reveal, its pretty easy to piece together that [[ObviouslyEvil Ludmilla]] is the real villain (or is at least ''a'' villain, anyway).
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* ObviousJudas: Even before the reveal, its pretty easy to piece together that [[ObviouslyEvil Ludmilla]] is the real villain behind Ivan's kidnapping (or is at least ''a'' villain, anyway).
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* {{Sequelitis}}: The film isn't considered bad and has pretty good animation, especially considering it's a direct to video release, but few consider it to be anywhere as good as Anastasia. It's generally just seen as an [[SoOkayItsAverage average]] spinoff.
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* {{Sequelitis}}: The film isn't considered bad and has pretty good animation, especially considering it's a direct to video release, but few consider it to be anywhere as good as Anastasia. It's generally just seen as an [[SoOkayItsAverage average]] spinoff.spinoff that's seen as more decent than the other sequels done with Bluth's consent.
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* VanillaProtagonist: Bartok is this compared to the more colourful characters surrounding him.
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* VanillaProtagonist: Bartok is this compared to the more colourful characters surrounding him.him, with his usual brand of humor that made him a sarcastic foil to Rapsutin's melodrama being overshadowed by his supporting casts' over-the-top nature and being [[PinballProtagonist dragged along throughout the plot to do the requests of others without his own initiative]].
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** In the climax, has Ludmilla lost control of her actions and become a mindless beast, or is she throwing a temper tantrum and destroying the town [[NeverMyFault because she's turned into a dragon due to the potion she willingly drank so she's taking out her frustration due to it not making her as beautiful as she imagined it would do rather than it being a refflecitonn of her dark nature]]?
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** In the climax, has Ludmilla lost control of her actions and become a mindless beast, or is she throwing a temper tantrum and destroying the town [[NeverMyFault because she's turned into a dragon due to the potion she willingly drank so she's taking out her frustration due to it not making her as beautiful as she imagined it would do rather than it the dragon being a refflecitonn reflection of her dark nature]]?true evil nature]]?
** The magic potion. Was it intended for Bartok to transform into the inner hero he always was and Ludmilla stole it, which given how the potion worked- turned her into the destructive monster she was deep down? Or was its properties to always cause one to become a dragon and Baba Yaga used Bartok indirectly to turn into a dragon to be slain for the sake of Russia via manipulating her into wanting the potion, to not only punish her for causing harm to the prince, but also to prevent a potential tyrant for rising to power- with Bartok never needing it because he was always a hero regardless of appearance? Notably, a rat takes a sip of the potion and instantly becomes a dragon, which heavily implies the latter while Ludmilla's gradually admission in wanting to be a tyrant be spoken aloud highlights the former.
** The magic potion. Was it intended for Bartok to transform into the inner hero he always was and Ludmilla stole it, which given how the potion worked- turned her into the destructive monster she was deep down? Or was its properties to always cause one to become a dragon and Baba Yaga used Bartok indirectly to turn into a dragon to be slain for the sake of Russia via manipulating her into wanting the potion, to not only punish her for causing harm to the prince, but also to prevent a potential tyrant for rising to power- with Bartok never needing it because he was always a hero regardless of appearance? Notably, a rat takes a sip of the potion and instantly becomes a dragon, which heavily implies the latter while Ludmilla's gradually admission in wanting to be a tyrant be spoken aloud highlights the former.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Ludmilla crosses it by leaving Bartok, Ivan and Vol to die to drown, not to mention her initial plan was to have Prince Ivan be assassinated by Vol in the first place to gain the throne, and did the former action once she found out that Prince Ivan had been spared. To emphasis this more, she spends one more moment before her infamous BitByBitTransformation before rubbing how their drown deaths would be horrible.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Ludmilla crosses it by leaving Bartok, Ivan and Vol to die to drown, not to mention her initial plan was to have Prince Ivan be assassinated by Vol in the first place to gain the throne, and did the former action once she found out that Prince Ivan had been spared. To emphasis this more, she spends one more moment before her infamous BitByBitTransformation before rubbing how their drown deaths by drowning would be horrible. horrible .
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** Not to mention that during her song, she twists a guy's neck!!!
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** Not to mention that during her song, she twists a guy's neck!!!neck, causing his eyes to pop out of their sockets!!!
*** While it was obvious she was a SmugSnake [[TheStarscream with treacherous ambitions from the start]] with the [[WouldHurtAChild the intent of killing Prince Ivan sooner or later to get the throne]], the Real Ludmilla gradually reveals she's truly [[TheSociopath sociopathic for a long time]] as well as a implied {{Sadist}} given that she strangles a rat for no real reason and has an apparent private chamber to torture prisoners behind Prince Ivan's back.
*** While it was obvious she was a SmugSnake [[TheStarscream with treacherous ambitions from the start]] with the [[WouldHurtAChild the intent of killing Prince Ivan sooner or later to get the throne]], the Real Ludmilla gradually reveals she's truly [[TheSociopath sociopathic for a long time]] as well as a implied {{Sadist}} given that she strangles a rat for no real reason and has an apparent private chamber to torture prisoners behind Prince Ivan's back.
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** In the climax, has Ludmilla lost control of her actions and become a mindless beast, or is she throwing a temper tantrum and destroying the town [[NeverMyFault because she's turned into a dragon]]?
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** In the climax, has Ludmilla lost control of her actions and become a mindless beast, or is she throwing a temper tantrum and destroying the town [[NeverMyFault because she's turned into a dragon]]?dragon due to the potion she willingly drank so she's taking out her frustration due to it not making her as beautiful as she imagined it would do rather than it being a refflecitonn of her dark nature]]?
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** Also ''Someone's In My House'' is a catchy Jazz inspired [[spoiler: pseudo]] VillainSong.
** ''Impossible Hero'' is a sweet and inspiring AwardBaitSong about inner courage.
** ''The Real Ludmilla'' is a VillainSong that perfectly encapsulates Ludmilla gradually tossing out her [[FauxAffablyEvil facade]] to reveal the tyrant she intends to be, combined with very [[DerangedAnimation surreal imagery with the transformation]].
** ''Impossible Hero'' is a sweet and inspiring AwardBaitSong about inner courage.
** ''The Real Ludmilla'' is a VillainSong that perfectly encapsulates Ludmilla gradually tossing out her [[FauxAffablyEvil facade]] to reveal the tyrant she intends to be, combined with very [[DerangedAnimation surreal imagery with the transformation]].
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** His friendship with Zozi and how the latter was his conscience to acting in the right manner, will eventually end with Bartok ignoring it in favor of working with Rasputin's evil agenda.
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* TearJerker: Not immediately obvious given the comedic tone of the movie, but there are some sad moments.
** When Bartok insults Baba Yaga after the third test, it causes the up till then villainous witch to cry from the remarks, which makes Bartok feel guilty.
** If one sees this movie as a prequel and not a spinoff, then Bartok will become Rasputin's minion, helping him to wipe out the Romanov lineage, including several attempts on the sole survivor, Anastasia- all of which are descendants of Prince Ivan, meaning that Bartok is aiding in the ruination of the family of his friend. A fact made more harrowing given their good-natured relationship.
** Zozi and Bartok's friendship, if one takes this as a prequel, will eventually end, and Bartok aiding Rasputin in his heinous crimes, with possibilities including a failing out from working with Rasputin, Zozi dying of natural causes, or [[MurderTheHypotenuse being killed specifically because he acts as Bartok's conscience against Rasputin's talk]].
** When Bartok insults Baba Yaga after the third test, it causes the up till then villainous witch to cry from the remarks, which makes Bartok feel guilty.
** If one sees this movie as a prequel and not a spinoff, then Bartok will become Rasputin's minion, helping him to wipe out the Romanov lineage, including several attempts on the sole survivor, Anastasia- all of which are descendants of Prince Ivan, meaning that Bartok is aiding in the ruination of the family of his friend. A fact made more harrowing given their good-natured relationship.
** Zozi and Bartok's friendship, if one takes this as a prequel, will eventually end, and Bartok aiding Rasputin in his heinous crimes, with possibilities including a failing out from working with Rasputin, Zozi dying of natural causes, or [[MurderTheHypotenuse being killed specifically because he acts as Bartok's conscience against Rasputin's talk]].
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** On top of this- assuming the film is a prequel to ''Anastasia'', this means Bartok saving Prince Ivan and being on good terms with him, becomes tragic with Bartok aiding Rasputin in wiping out the lineage of Prince Ivan's last descendants, including several attempts on the sole survivor, the titular Anastasia.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Ludmilla crosses it by leaving Bartok, Ivan and Vol to die.die to drown, not to mention her initial plan was to have Prince Ivan be assassinated by Vol in the first place to gain the throne, and did the former action once she found out that Prince Ivan had been spared. To emphasis this more, she spends one more moment before her infamous BitByBitTransformation before rubbing how their drown deaths would be horrible.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Ludmilla failing to notice her obvious transformation into a dragon.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: Seeing as this is the only sequel to his films Don Bluth has actually been involved with, it's no surprised that the AuthorsSavingThrow is the animation. In particular, Dragon!Ludmilla is ''really'' cool!
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: Seeing as this is the only sequel to his films Don Bluth has actually been involved with, it's no surprised that the AuthorsSavingThrow its saving grace is the animation. In particular, Dragon!Ludmilla is ''really'' cool!
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-QbXYJhCWo Baba Yaga]] is a buildup song next to none.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-QbXYJhCWo [[https://youtu.be/Ne3Z3dEP8i4 Baba Yaga]] is a buildup song next to none.
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* DancingBear: Ignoring the presence of Zozi, the film originally carried itself on the fact that it starred a minor, comedic bit player from the then-hit Anastasia as the main character. Today, it is mainly remembered today because it is the ''only'' sequel to a Creator/DonBluth film that was directed by Don himself.
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* DancingBear: Ignoring the presence of Zozi, the film originally carried itself on the fact that it starred a minor, comedic bit player from the then-hit Anastasia ''Anastasia'' as the main character. Today, it is mainly remembered today because it is the ''only'' sequel to a Creator/DonBluth film that was directed by Don himself.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Assuming this is a prequel to WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}} then Bartok will never end up becoming a hero and will be forced to serve as Rasputin's sidekick.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Assuming this is a prequel to WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}} ''Anastasia'', then Bartok will never end up becoming a hero and will be forced to serve as Rasputin's sidekick.
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** The giant skull preceding Baba Yaga's house. The combo of the low-grade CGI and voice work by Creator/TimCurry don't help.
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** The giant skull preceding Baba Yaga's house. The combo of the low-grade CGI and voice work by Creator/TimCurry voice work don't help.
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* TheScrappy: Bartok was considered humorous in ''Anastasia'' because he played the minor role of a [[PunchClockVillain sarcastic sidekick]] to the bad guy. Here, he's plopped into the major role of a hero with little of his previous traits, which makes him more bland and irritating than in his debut.
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* SignatureScene: Ludmilla's transformation into a dragon. It's just such a bizarre scene, rife with things that could be considered {{Fanservice}} to some people and BodyHorror to others.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Ludmilla was perpetually sashaying before [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 Rouge The Bat]] made it cool.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Ludmilla failing to notice her obvious transformation into a dragon.
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* PopularWithFurries: Ludmilla's Dragon form has a ''very'' strong following among the "Scalies" portion of the Furry Fandom and her infamous transformation scene is also quite popular among TransformationFiction enthusiasts...
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* PopularWithFurries: Ludmilla's Dragon form has a ''very'' strong following among the "Scalies" portion of the Furry Fandom and her infamous transformation scene is also quite popular among TransformationFiction enthusiasts...
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* MoralEventHorizon: Ludmilla crosses it by leaving Bartok, Ivan, and Zorf to die.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Ludmilla crosses it by leaving Bartok, Ivan, and Zorf to die.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is Zozi always trying to talk Bartok out of doing nice things or it ReversePsychology at work?
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** Is Zozi always trying to talk Bartok out of doing nice things or it ReversePsychology atwork?work?
** In the climax, has Ludmilla lost control of her actions and become a mindless beast, or is she throwing a temper tantrum and destroying the town [[NeverMyFault because she's turned into a dragon]]?
** Is Zozi always trying to talk Bartok out of doing nice things or it ReversePsychology at
** In the climax, has Ludmilla lost control of her actions and become a mindless beast, or is she throwing a temper tantrum and destroying the town [[NeverMyFault because she's turned into a dragon]]?
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** Some people don't like Piloff.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Assuming this is a prequel to WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}} then Bartok will never end up becoming a hero and will be forced to serve as Rasputin's sidekick.
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* EarWorm: Baba Yaga's jazzy song number "Someone's In My House".
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* PopularWithFurries: Ludmilla's Dragon form has a ''very'' strong following among the "Scalies" portion of the Furry Fandom and her infamous transformation scene is also quite popular (for reasons that are [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement best not mentioned here]]) among TransformationFiction enthusiasts...
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* PopularWithFurries: Ludmilla's Dragon form has a ''very'' strong following among the "Scalies" portion of the Furry Fandom and her infamous transformation scene is also quite popular (for reasons that are [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement best not mentioned here]]) among TransformationFiction enthusiasts...
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* PopularWithFurries: Ludmilla's Dragon form has a ''very'' strong following among the "Scalies" portion of the Furry Fandom...
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* PopularWithFurries: Ludmilla's Dragon form has a ''very'' strong following among the "Scalies" portion of the Furry Fandom...Fandom and her infamous transformation scene is also quite popular (for reasons that are [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement best not mentioned here]]) among TransformationFiction enthusiasts...
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** Ludmilla's dragon form is hardly scary, but the preceding transformation is quite unsettling to watch, because it happens so gradually and happens in such a bizarre fashion. (Although, for better or worse, [[PopularWithFurries "Scalies"]] tend to have a bit of a different opinion of this scene, to put it mildly...)
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** Ludmilla's dragon form is hardly scary, but the preceding transformation is quite unsettling to watch, because it happens so gradually and happens in such a bizarre fashion. (Although, for better or worse, [[PopularWithFurries "Scalies"]] and TransformationFiction enthusiasts tend to have a bit of a different opinion of this scene, to put it mildly...)
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** Ludmilla's dragon form is hardly scary, but the preceding transformation is quite unsettling to watch, because it happens so gradually and happens in such a bizarre fashion. (Although, for better or worse, [[PopularWithFurries "Scalies"]] tend to have a bit of a [[FetishFuel different opinion]] of this scene, to put it mildly...)
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** Ludmilla's dragon form is hardly scary, but the preceding transformation is quite unsettling to watch, because it happens so gradually and happens in such a bizarre fashion. (Although, for better or worse, [[PopularWithFurries "Scalies"]] tend to have a bit of a [[FetishFuel different opinion]] opinion of this scene, to put it mildly...)
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** Ludmilla's dragon form is hardly scary, but the preceding transformation is quite unsettling to watch, because it happens so gradually and happens in such a bizarre fashion. (Although, for better or worse, [[PopularWithFurries "Scalies"]] tend to have a bit of a [[FetishFuel different opinion]] of this scene, to put it mildly...
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** Ludmilla's dragon form is hardly scary, but the preceding transformation is quite unsettling to watch, because it happens so gradually and happens in such a bizarre fashion. (Although, for better or worse, [[PopularWithFurries "Scalies"]] tend to have a bit of a [[FetishFuel different opinion]] of this scene, to put it mildly...)
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* HilariousInHindsight: Ludmilla was perpetually sashaying before [[VideoGames/SonicAdventure2 Rouge The Bat]] made it cool.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Ludmilla was perpetually sashaying before [[VideoGames/SonicAdventure2 [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 Rouge The Bat]] made it cool.
