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* JerkassWoobie:
** Azula naturally continues to be this, with her pain and insanity even worse than before.
** Also, [[spoiler: Koh the Face Stealer]], who doesn't even appear here, becomes one due to his revealed backstory and FreudianExcuse.

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* JerkassWoobie:
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Azula naturally continues to be this, with her pain and insanity even worse than before.
** Also, %%** [[spoiler: Koh the Face Stealer]], who doesn't even appear here, becomes one due to his revealed backstory and FreudianExcuse.



* NeverLiveItDown: Ursa's [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic portrayal in this comic]]. A lot of fans seem to exaggerate Ursa's faults and downplay either her good qualities or Ozai's own actions. Despite what many say, Ursa's decisions in the story are not portrayed as completely in the right, with even Ursa expressing regret for what she did and apologizing for not loving Azula enough before choosing to regain her memories and face. Yet, she is known best here for unintentionally causing Zuko to be treated worse by Ozai (Even though that doesn't excuse how Ozai reacted and in fact, makes the abuse all the more despicable.) and getting a new face at the cost of the memories of her children (regardless of the fact that Ozai's blackmail and leverage didn't give her much of a choice in the matter.)
* ReplacementScrappy: The Mother of Faces to Koh.

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* NeverLiveItDown: Ursa's [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic portrayal in this comic]]. A lot of fans seem to exaggerate Ursa's faults and downplay either her good qualities or Ozai's own actions. Despite what many say, Ursa's decisions in the story are not portrayed as completely in the right, with even Ursa expressing regret for what she did and apologizing for not loving Azula enough before choosing to regain her memories and face. Yet, she is known best here for unintentionally causing Zuko to be treated worse by Ozai (Even though that doesn't excuse how Ozai reacted and in fact, makes the abuse all the more despicable.) despicable) and getting a new face at the cost of the memories of her children (regardless of the fact that Ozai's blackmail and leverage didn't give her much of a choice in the matter.)
* ReplacementScrappy: The Mother of Faces to Koh.
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Misuse. About fans trying to fill large gaps in a character's backstory, not wondering about what would have happened if a character had behaved in a different way.


* FanficFuel: Zuko [[spoiler:when he believes Ikem is his father briefly suggests that he could stay with him, Noriko and Kiyi and try to have a normal family life, giving up his Firelord claim. Try to imagine that plotline.]]

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Fixing indentations. Deleting knee-jerk reaction. Trimming down excessive complaining.


* ContestedSequel: Just like its [[Comicbook/AvatarTheLastAirbenderThePromise predecessor]]; fans either love this story for providing some closure to plot elements that weren't properly developed in the animated show or feel these books feel like a fanfiction and would prefer to think of it as non-canon. Bringing it up risks starting a fan war over its quality.
* FanDislikedExplanation: The arc exploring the reason why Ozai treated Zuko as TheUnfavourite manages to give two of these.
** Many dislike the twist that [[spoiler:Zuko isn't Ozai's son]], mainly because many fans feel it renders pointless a lot of [[spoiler:Zuko's]] character development from the animated series and [[BrokenAesop undermines]] its original aesop: "[[spoiler:You are not your bloodline, your family does not define who you have to be.]]" Eventually it's revealed that this first twist was a lie [[spoiler:and Ozai really is Zuko's father after all]], but the reason ''why'' it's untrue, [[spoiler:along with what actually happened to Ursa]], has become an entirely new FanDislikedExplanation: [[spoiler:Ursa wrote that Zuko was not Ozai's son in a deliberate attempt to 1) see if Ozai was reading her letters (which worked) and 2) piss him off if he was (which very much worked). But Ozai, being Ozai, was more pissed that she dared play an obvious lie that he would punish Ursa by treating Zuko like he wasn't his son for the rest of his life.]] NiceJobBreakingItHero.
*** It's not uncommon to find fans who were disappointed with the explanation of how Ursa disappeared.
*** Some fans were unhappy with the Mother of Faces being Koh's mother as well as the face that he steals faces to spite her. Many felt that this made Koh, an EnsembleDarkhorse, out to be a petty mama's boy and ruined his wise, ancient, powerful demeanor.
*** Many Azula fans dislike [[WordOfGod Gene Yang's statement]] about "Azula's SplitPersonality" in the comic. Fans believe Gene Yang failed to handle Azula's character well and the "SplitPersonality" is a super weak excuse for how poor his writing on Azula's character is and how her "mental illness" in the comic is very unrealistic.

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* ContestedSequel: Just like its [[Comicbook/AvatarTheLastAirbenderThePromise predecessor]]; fans either love this story for providing some closure to plot elements that weren't properly developed in the animated show or feel these books feel like a are comparable to fanfiction and would prefer to think of it as non-canon. Bringing it up risks starting a fan war over its quality.
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The arc exploring the reason why Ozai treated Zuko as TheUnfavourite manages to give two of these.
** Many dislike the
heavily disliked twist that [[spoiler:Zuko isn't Ozai's son]], mainly because many fans feel it renders pointless a lot of [[spoiler:Zuko's]] character development from the animated series and [[BrokenAesop undermines]] its original aesop: "[[spoiler:You are not your bloodline, your family does not define who you have to be.]]" Eventually it's son]] is revealed that this first twist was to be a lie [[spoiler:and Ozai really is Zuko's father after all]], in the last chapter, but the reason ''why'' it's untrue, [[spoiler:along with what actually happened to Ursa]], has become an entirely new FanDislikedExplanation: [[spoiler:Ursa wrote that Zuko was not Ozai's son in a deliberate attempt to 1) see if Ozai was reading her letters (which worked) and 2) piss him off if he was (which very much worked). But Ozai, being Ozai, was more pissed that she dared play an obvious lie that he would punish Ursa by treating Zuko like he wasn't his son for the rest of his life.]] NiceJobBreakingItHero.
*** It's not uncommon to find fans who were disappointed with the explanation of how Ursa disappeared.
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** Some fans were unhappy with the Mother of Faces being Koh's mother as well as the face that he steals faces to spite her. Many felt that this made Koh, an EnsembleDarkhorse, out to be a petty mama's boy and ruined his wise, ancient, powerful demeanor.
*** ** Many Azula fans dislike [[WordOfGod Gene Yang's statement]] about "Azula's SplitPersonality" in the comic. Fans comic and believe Gene Yang failed to handle Azula's write the character well and the "SplitPersonality" is a super weak excuse for how poor his writing on Azula's character is and how well, as her "mental illness" in the comic is very unrealistic.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Ursa. People either sympathize with her due to her being forced into an abusive marriage with Ozai or find her [[spoielr:decision to abandon Zuko and Azula and willingly erase all her memories of them]] to be unforgivable.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Ursa. People either sympathize with her due to her being forced into an abusive marriage with Ozai or find her [[spoielr:decision [[spoiler:decision to abandon Zuko and Azula and willingly erase all her memories of them]] to be unforgivable.



* ContestedSequel: Just like its [[Comicbook/AvatarTheLastAirbenderThePromise predecessor]]; some fans even feel these books almost as a fanfiction and would prefer to think of it as non-canon, and bringing it up risks starting a fan war.

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* ContestedSequel: Just like its [[Comicbook/AvatarTheLastAirbenderThePromise predecessor]]; fans either love this story for providing some fans even closure to plot elements that weren't properly developed in the animated show or feel these books almost as feel like a fanfiction and would prefer to think of it as non-canon, and bringing non-canon. Bringing it up risks starting a fan war.war over its quality.


* BaseBreakingCharacter: '''Ursa'''. See AlternativeCharacterInterpretation above: either people sympathize with her or find her unforgivable.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: '''Ursa'''. See AlternativeCharacterInterpretation above: Ursa. People either people sympathize with her due to her being forced into an abusive marriage with Ozai or find her [[spoielr:decision to abandon Zuko and Azula and willingly erase all her memories of them]] to be unforgivable.

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This trope is about subtext that leads the reader to believe there is more to a character than it initially shows. There is nothing in the story to support any of these theories.


* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** Ozai.
*** Was he ''always'' a heartless, power-hungry EvilPrince and abusive parent and husband or, just like Ursa, was he a victim of his father's eugenic schemes? In some point, did he really try to be a good father and husband? There is the fact that when he tells Ursa it's true that Azulon ordered him to murder Zuko, he's not cruel or forceful about it; just honest and resigned to it. Of course, then he gets manipulative when he says that she'll have to go into exile, and he won't let her take the children because he wants them as bargaining chips in case she ever decides to poison ''him''.
*** Exactly what his relationship with Azula is. Did he legitimately believe she would be a better Fire Lord than Zuko or was his telling Azula about the letter, something he knew was fake, just prove that she is just another tool for revenge he is trying to use against Zuko and Ursa. Or, given Azula's mental state, was it all just a ploy to gain back the throne. Given how politically perceptive Ozai is and how good he is at reading people or situations, he could've taken one look at the state his daughter was in, and willingly told Azula in the hopes that Azula would've gone and killed Ursa just to spite his son for dethroning him.
*** The true reason behind Ozai and Ursa's ArrangedMarriage. Was it, as Azulon proclaims, due to the Fire Sages' advice to breed a better, more powerful royal heir with the blood of Avatar Roku and the Fire Nation Royal Family? Or was it a calculated political strategy to avoid the rise of a potential threat to the Fire Nation Royal Family's position and power from Roku's lineage by merging the two bloodlines? Perhaps a bit of both?
** Does Zuko [[spoiler: completely forgive Ursa for wiping her memories of him at the end? Or is he being a StepfordSmiler and just trying to be a good son to her?]]
** Iroh. One could ask to what extent he knew about or even if he was involved in Fire Lord Azulon's eugenic scheme to create the perfect Fire Nation heir and how much he knew about Ursa's disappearance.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Regarding Ozai:
** Ozai.
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Was he ''always'' a heartless, power-hungry EvilPrince and abusive parent and husband or, just like Ursa, was he a victim of his father's eugenic schemes? In some point, did he really try to be a good father and husband? There is the fact that when he tells Ursa it's true that Azulon ordered him to murder Zuko, he's not cruel or forceful about it; just honest and resigned to it. Of course, then he gets manipulative when he says that she'll have to go into exile, and he won't let her take the children because he wants them as bargaining chips in case she ever decides to poison ''him''.
*** ** Exactly what his relationship with Azula is. Did he legitimately believe she would be a better Fire Lord than Zuko or was his telling Azula about the letter, something he knew was fake, just prove that she is just another tool for revenge he is trying to use against Zuko and Ursa. Or, given Azula's mental state, was it all just a ploy to gain back the throne. Given how politically perceptive Ozai is and how good he is at reading people or situations, he could've taken one look at the state his daughter was in, and willingly told Azula in the hopes that Azula would've gone and killed Ursa just to spite his son for dethroning him.
*** ** The true reason behind Ozai and Ursa's ArrangedMarriage. Was it, as Azulon proclaims, due to the Fire Sages' advice to breed a better, more powerful royal heir with the blood of Avatar Roku and the Fire Nation Royal Family? Or was it a calculated political strategy to avoid the rise of a potential threat to the Fire Nation Royal Family's position and power from Roku's lineage by merging the two bloodlines? Perhaps a bit of both?
** Does Zuko [[spoiler: completely forgive Ursa for wiping her memories of him at the end? Or is he being a StepfordSmiler and just trying to be a good son to her?]]
** Iroh. One could ask to what extent he knew about or even if he was involved in Fire Lord Azulon's eugenic scheme to create the perfect Fire Nation heir and how much he knew about Ursa's disappearance.
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This is more of a case of Ambiguous Situation. And as the sequels show, Sokka was right.


** Azula's [[spoiler: apparent HeelFaceTurn is this in-story, as Aang and Katara are willing to believe it, but Sokka isn't and thinks she just slipped up in her craziness and will still be a threat when she next turns up.]]

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** Ozai, again. Was he ''always'' a heartless, power-hungry EvilPrince and abusive parent and husband or, just like Ursa, was he a victim of his father's eugenic schemes? In some point, did he really try to be a good father and husband? There is the fact that when he tells Ursa it's true that Azulon ordered him to murder Zuko, he's not cruel or forceful about it; just honest and resigned to it. Of course, then he gets manipulative when he says that she'll have to go into exile, and he won't let her take the children because he wants them as bargaining chips in case she ever decides to posion ''him''.

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** Ozai, again. Ozai.
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Was he ''always'' a heartless, power-hungry EvilPrince and abusive parent and husband or, just like Ursa, was he a victim of his father's eugenic schemes? In some point, did he really try to be a good father and husband? There is the fact that when he tells Ursa it's true that Azulon ordered him to murder Zuko, he's not cruel or forceful about it; just honest and resigned to it. Of course, then he gets manipulative when he says that she'll have to go into exile, and he won't let her take the children because he wants them as bargaining chips in case she ever decides to posion poison ''him''.



** The true reason behind Ozai and Ursa's ArrangedMarriage. Was it, as Azulon proclaims, due to the Fire Sages' advice to breed a better, more powerful royal heir with the blood of Avatar Roku and the Fire Nation Royal Family? Or was it a calculated political strategy to avoid the rise of a potential threat to the Fire Nation Royal Family's position and power from Roku's lineage by merging the two bloodlines? Perhaps a bit of both?

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** *** The true reason behind Ozai and Ursa's ArrangedMarriage. Was it, as Azulon proclaims, due to the Fire Sages' advice to breed a better, more powerful royal heir with the blood of Avatar Roku and the Fire Nation Royal Family? Or was it a calculated political strategy to avoid the rise of a potential threat to the Fire Nation Royal Family's position and power from Roku's lineage by merging the two bloodlines? Perhaps a bit of both?
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Not an alternative interpretation. It's very clear that Ursa is meant to be seen as both sympathetic and weak at different points in the narrative. The flashback where she loses everything the moment Ozai enters her life portrays her as the former; the one where she berates herself for forgetting her own children blatantly paints her in a negative light. The second example also has incorrect indentation.


** Ursa is probably the biggest example: is she a sympathetic and loving mother who [[BrokenBird was broken by all the pain in her life]], or [[spoiler: a weak, cowardly, selfish woman who cared more for herself and her old boyfriend than for her own children?]] Ursa even derides herself for her choice; doubly so when she learned exactly how bad her ploy went.
*** On that note, her depiction in the comic: is it a contradiction of her depiction in the original series, or a more nuanced portrayal that goes beyond Zuko's fond memories of her?
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Misuse. Not an alternative interpretation, describes the character exactly as he is portrayed.


** After Yu Dao blew up in his face, Aang changed. He's willing to compromise on his goals to achieve partial victories. He's become far more practical in his solutions to problems, like punting Yu Dao's reformation to an international conference and advising Zuko to burn a letter that could undermine his claim to the throne, rather than relying on good intentions, friendship, and lucky breaks. He's also being more political in how he treats Zuko, recognizing that his friend is also a somewhat shaky ally who needs propping up after an ambiguously suicidal fall.
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* NeverLiveItDown: Ursa's portrayal here as an UnintentionallyUnsympathetic person. People seems to exaggerate Ursa's faults and downplay either her good qualities or Ozai's own actions. Despite what people act like, Ursa's decisions in the story are not portrayed as completely in the right, with even Ursa outright regretting what she did and apologizing for not loving Azula enough before choosing to regain her memories and face. Yet, she is known best here for unintentionally causing Zuko to be treated worse by Ozai (Even though that doesn't excuse how Ozai reacted and in fact, makes the abuse all the more despicable.) and getting a new face at the cost of the memories of her children (regardless of the fact that Ozai's blackmail and leverage didn't give her much of a choice in the matter.)

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* NeverLiveItDown: Ursa's [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic portrayal here as an UnintentionallyUnsympathetic person. People seems in this comic]]. A lot of fans seem to exaggerate Ursa's faults and downplay either her good qualities or Ozai's own actions. Despite what people act like, many say, Ursa's decisions in the story are not portrayed as completely in the right, with even Ursa outright regretting expressing regret for what she did and apologizing for not loving Azula enough before choosing to regain her memories and face. Yet, she is known best here for unintentionally causing Zuko to be treated worse by Ozai (Even though that doesn't excuse how Ozai reacted and in fact, makes the abuse all the more despicable.) and getting a new face at the cost of the memories of her children (regardless of the fact that Ozai's blackmail and leverage didn't give her much of a choice in the matter.)
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* IKnewIt:
** We get explicit confirmation that [[spoiler:Ursa was behind Azulon's death]], though the details differ a bit from the popular theory.
** Many called that [[spoiler: Noren and Noriko were Ikem and Ursa]] and that [[spoiler: the letter revealing Ikem to be Zuko's true father is a lie made up by Ursa to strike at Ozai.]]
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* MoralEventHorizon: Ozai crossed it ''long'' before he burned Zuko, when he told off Ursa for claiming [[spoiler:Zuko wasn't his son in a letter to Ikem, and said he would hurt Zuko as a proxy. Especially since he knew from the beginning that it was a lie.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: Ozai crossed it ''long'' before he burned Zuko, when he told off Ursa for claiming [[spoiler:Zuko wasn't his son in a letter to Ikem, and said he would hurt Zuko as a proxy. Especially since he knew from the beginning that it was a lie.]]See [[MoralEventHorizon/AvatarTheLastAirbender here]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: This was the story that established Ozai as not just the AbusiveParent who wields [[PlayingWithFire fire as his powerset]] but one who married Ursa as part of an eugenics experiment to produce more powerful children, resulting in Zuko whom he personally scarred and Azula who's the AxCrazy child with TechnicolorFire. Later on, the anime ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' introduced Endeavor, an abusive father and superhero who wielded fire as his superpower and married a carefully selected woman as part of a SuperBreedingProgram to produce children who could potentially surpass his rival All-Might. Among those kids were Shoto who can [[BurnScarsBurningPowers produce powerful flames and has a scarred face]] and Toya/Dabi who's the psychotic unhinged male equivalent to Azula with his own blue flames. The only difference is that Endeavor wasn't the parent who scarred Shoto and Dabi believed himself to be TheUnfavorite of the family.
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The sympathy lended to Azula in the story is not unintentional. She's written as actively going through the things noted in the entry in the story itself.


* UnintentionallySympathetic: Azula. Granted, she's still very unpleasant and dangerous but she's still a 15-16 year old clearly suffering from severe mental illness and desperation to find a purpose in life. Zuko and Aang try to make nice with her; but Azula's just too barbed when lucid and unreasonable when she isn't. Sokka outright distrusts her with good reason while Katara keeps neutral about the whole affair. As ties into SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome, it's difficult for anybody to make progress with her when they can't talk to her without risking a fight; but she's no better to try when she's either focused on her own agenda or lost in insanity otherwise. It also doesn't help that Azula thinks her mother hates her, and [[spoiler:with the reason for Ursa's disappearance, she might now have a very good reason to resent her mother.]]

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