History YMMV / Arrow

28th May '16 2:32:46 AM KingClark
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** Laurel's [[MakeMeWannaShout Canary Cry]], which makes her look like she's trying to use the toilet most of the time. It doesn't help that its ''severally'' under-powered (in the comics its an ''exceptionally'' powerful attack, while here its a mild stun attack), and rather sparingly used (and when it is, its very ineffective), and was introduced on ''Series/TheFlash2014'', meaning that, [[ContinuityLockout without watching that show, the inclusion of it comes out of nowhere]].

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** Laurel's [[MakeMeWannaShout Canary Cry]], which makes her look like she's trying to use the toilet most of the time. It doesn't help that its ''severally'' ''severely'' under-powered (in the comics its an ''exceptionally'' powerful attack, while here its a mild stun attack), and rather sparingly used (and when it is, its very ineffective), and was introduced on ''Series/TheFlash2014'', meaning that, [[ContinuityLockout without watching that show, the inclusion of it comes out of nowhere]].
27th May '16 10:07:13 PM KINGBARBIE52
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** The promo for season 4, episode 15 "Taken" features our first footage glimpse of [[spoiler: Vixen.]] Unfortunately the character gives us the line of [[spoiler: "how about I kick your ass like a woman" towards a thug, that is very eye-rolling. Especially when you think of all the backlash the Supergirl TV show got for all the "women can be heroes too" lines it threw around early in the first season. And even more so, ''Arrow'' isn't a show where you need to enforce some type of girl-power thing, given you have Laurel and Thea out there every week fighting alongside Oliver and Diggle.]]

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** The promo for season 4, episode 15 "Taken" features our first footage glimpse of [[spoiler: Vixen.]] Unfortunately the character gives us the eye-rolling line of [[spoiler: "how about I kick your ass like a woman" towards a thug, that is very eye-rolling.thug. Especially when you think of all the backlash the Supergirl TV show got for all the "women can be heroes too" lines it threw around early in the first season. And even more so, ''Arrow'' isn't a show where you need to enforce some type of girl-power thing, given you have Laurel and Thea out there every week fighting alongside Oliver and Diggle.]] Though to be fair, the thug confronted her first with the equally-cliche line of "how about you fight like a man?"]]
27th May '16 10:00:29 PM KINGBARBIE52
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** ** It became common to joke about or just point out the [[UnfortunateNames name]] of a writer and co-executive producer of several later episodes: [[AwesomeMcCoolName Speed]] [[SublimeRhyme Weed]].

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** ** It became common to joke about or just point out the [[UnfortunateNames name]] of a writer and co-executive producer of several later episodes: [[AwesomeMcCoolName Speed]] [[SublimeRhyme Weed]].
27th May '16 9:59:30 PM KINGBARBIE52
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** After several characters seemed to go ut of their way to schill Felicity, many started to go out of their way to refer to her as a "strong, beautiful, powerful woman".

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** After several characters seemed to go ut out of their way to schill shill Felicity, many started to go out of their way to refer to her as a "strong, beautiful, powerful woman".woman".
** ** It became common to joke about or just point out the [[UnfortunateNames name]] of a writer and co-executive producer of several later episodes: [[AwesomeMcCoolName Speed]] [[SublimeRhyme Weed]].
27th May '16 1:19:33 PM pointycatears
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** Laurel's [[MakeMeWannaShout Canary Cry]], which makes her look like she's trying to use the toilet most of the time. It doesn't help that its ''severally'' under-powered (in the comics its an ''exceptionally'' powerful attack, while here its a mild stun attack), and rather sparingly used (and when it is, its very ineffective), and was introduced on ''Series/TheFlash2014'', meaning that, without watching that show, the inclusion of it comes out of nowhere.

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** Laurel's [[MakeMeWannaShout Canary Cry]], which makes her look like she's trying to use the toilet most of the time. It doesn't help that its ''severally'' under-powered (in the comics its an ''exceptionally'' powerful attack, while here its a mild stun attack), and rather sparingly used (and when it is, its very ineffective), and was introduced on ''Series/TheFlash2014'', meaning that, [[ContinuityLockout without watching that show, the inclusion of it comes out of nowhere.nowhere]].
27th May '16 5:38:23 AM Forenperser
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** Baron Reiter has a few possible moments, but him [[spoiler: destroying a plane full of his slave labourers who were trying to get away simply to spite Oliver and Taiana and further fuel his magical powers]] is the absolute point of no return.
26th May '16 9:52:36 PM speyeker
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* HamAndCheese: Much like season 3, season 4's reception has been somewhat mixed (compared to the positive reception for the first two seasons), but many reviewers have consistently praised Neal McDonough's hammy performance as the season's BigBad, while also not being afraid to criticize how the character is ''written''. It is likely that the character's charismatic portrayal was a direct response to the generally negative reception for [[Comicbook/RasAlGhul the season 3 main antagonist]], who was often considered a dull and boring character.
26th May '16 4:13:13 PM Anddrix
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* TakeThatCritics:
** In ''Canaries'' Laurel's injected with Vertigo, she hallucinates a vengeful Sara, who delivers a scathing TheReasonYouSuckSpeech calling Laurel out for her selfish and deceitful actions while ''[[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beating the crap out of her]]'' -- twice, no less, with a hallucination of Quentin joining in to verbally rip Laurel apart for lying through her teeth to hide [[spoiler: Sara's murder]] from him. All of the lines by the villainous hallucinations are common criticisms of her character and in the end, she rallies and wins the fights against them: A clear take that against Laurel detractors. Fans weren't that impressed as hallucination!Sara's points that [[spoiler:'she didn't have to die']] and that Laurel couldn't possibly match her fighting skills, were actually true and Laurel beating a hallucination didn't change that.
** The final lines of ''Schism'' & the fourth season are Felicity asking Oliver if he thought she was leaving with Diggle & Thea, before reassuring Oliver that she's not going anywhere. For the significant portion of the fans who had turned against the character over the course of the season, it felt like a blatant middle finger from the show's writing staff.
26th May '16 4:04:23 PM ChrisDV
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* TakeThatCritics: In ''Canaries'' Laurel's injected with Vertigo, she hallucinates a vengeful Sara, who delivers a scathing TheReasonYouSuckSpeech calling Laurel out for her selfish and deceitful actions while ''[[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beating the crap out of her]]'' -- twice, no less, with a hallucination of Quentin joining in to verbally rip Laurel apart for lying through her teeth to hide [[spoiler: Sara's murder]] from him. All of the lines by the villainous hallucinations are common criticisms of her character and in the end, she rallies and wins the fights against them: A clear take that against Laurel detractors. Fans weren't that impressed as hallucination!Sara's points that [[spoiler:'she didn't have to die']] and that Laurel couldn't possibly match her fighting skills, were actually true and Laurel beating a hallucination didn't change that.
* TakeThatScrappy: The [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech verbal beatdown]] that Oliver delivers to Laurel in "Time of Death" is essentially a list of the fandom's biggest complaints about her.

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* TakeThatCritics: TakeThatCritics:
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In ''Canaries'' Laurel's injected with Vertigo, she hallucinates a vengeful Sara, who delivers a scathing TheReasonYouSuckSpeech calling Laurel out for her selfish and deceitful actions while ''[[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beating the crap out of her]]'' -- twice, no less, with a hallucination of Quentin joining in to verbally rip Laurel apart for lying through her teeth to hide [[spoiler: Sara's murder]] from him. All of the lines by the villainous hallucinations are common criticisms of her character and in the end, she rallies and wins the fights against them: A clear take that against Laurel detractors. Fans weren't that impressed as hallucination!Sara's points that [[spoiler:'she didn't have to die']] and that Laurel couldn't possibly match her fighting skills, were actually true and Laurel beating a hallucination didn't change that.
** The final lines of ''Schism'' & the fourth season are Felicity asking Oliver if he thought she was leaving with Diggle & Thea, before reassuring Oliver that she's not going anywhere. For the significant portion of the fans who had turned against the character over the course of the season, it felt like a blatant middle finger from the show's writing staff.
* TakeThatScrappy: TakeThatScrappy:
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The [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech verbal beatdown]] that Oliver delivers to Laurel in "Time of Death" is essentially a list of the fandom's biggest complaints about her.



** The city has been renamed Starling City.
** Oliver not being called Green Arrow. WordOfGod states that this is because they intend to show Oliver's growth from vigilante to hero, and as such he's not Green Arrow ''yet''.

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** The city has been renamed Starling City.
City. This changed with the fourth season premiere.
** Oliver not being called Green Arrow. WordOfGod states that this is because they intend to show Oliver's growth from vigilante to hero, and as such he's not Green Arrow ''yet''.''yet'' - as such, Oliver finally took the name in the first episode of season four.



** Changing [[spoiler: ComicBook/TheAtom from a SizeShifter into a man in generic PoweredArmor]] has a few fans miffed. Fortunately, see AuthorsSavingThrow above.

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** Changing [[spoiler: ComicBook/TheAtom [[spoiler:ComicBook/TheAtom from a SizeShifter into a man in generic PoweredArmor]] has a few fans miffed. Fortunately, see AuthorsSavingThrow above.
26th May '16 3:53:13 PM ChrisDV
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** The crew took notice and it was redesigned in a ''Flash'' crossover episode halfway through the season. Notably, Cisco doesn't even have to ask what should be changed, like he already knew he didn't do his best with it.

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** The crew took notice and it a redesign was redesigned teased in a ''Flash'' crossover episode halfway through the season. Notably, Cisco doesn't even have to ask what should be changed, like he already knew he didn't do his best with it.
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