History YMMV / ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog

24th Jul '16 5:55:26 PM waters20
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* InformedWrongness: Issue #134, where Princess Sally slapped Sonic across the face out of rage after the latter decided to fight in the battlefield to defeat Eggman over ruling by the former's side. While it was indeed wrong for Sally to slap Sonic like that, nobody ever considered the fact that Sonic was about to risk his life another time after he had nearly died twice prior to the issue, and that really put a lot of massive stress on Sally since she had to live with Sonic being gone for a full year, thinking he was dead, not to mention that before that, Sonic became her official consort. While Sonic is the main hero who would risk his life to save those he loves, nothing indicates that he's the most important hero of Mobius that would render any of the other fighters that are more than capable of taking on Eggman just as well useless or otherwise less significant. Plus Sonic's arm was in a cast due to getting burned by a laser gun, meaning that he was not in any condition to fight in the battlefield, and doing so would possibly constitute his demise. However, he doesn't even seem to contemplate this and instead decides to fight Eggman while he's handicap anyway, not to mention that by doing this, he had broke his commitment to Sally after he had promised her to be there for her when she needed his help. So in reality, he's just as much in the wrong as Sally,yet Sally is the one seen as the bitch who fans claim tried to force Sonic to marry her and/or make him give up being a hero, and none of them who love to use this as an excuse to hate Sally actually bother to at least look at her side of the story while Sonic gets treated as the victim all because he's the [[DesignatedHero main hero]].

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* InformedWrongness: Issue #134, where Princess Sally slapped Sonic across the face out of rage after the latter decided to fight in the battlefield to defeat Eggman over ruling by the former's side. While it was indeed wrong for Sally to slap Sonic like that, nobody ever considered the fact that Sonic was about to risk his life another time after he had nearly died twice prior to the issue, and that really put a lot of massive stress on Sally since she had to live with Sonic being gone for a full year, thinking he was dead, not to mention that before that, Sonic became her official consort. While Sonic is the main hero who would risk his life to save those he loves, nothing indicates that he's the most important hero of Mobius that would render any of the other fighters that are more than capable of taking on Eggman just as well useless or otherwise less significant. Plus Sonic's arm was in a cast due to getting burned by a laser gun, meaning that he was not in any condition to fight in the battlefield, and doing so would possibly constitute his demise. However, he doesn't even seem to contemplate this and instead decides to fight Eggman while he's handicap anyway, not to mention that by doing this, he had broke his commitment to Sally after he had promised her to be there for her when she needed his help. So in reality, he's just as much in the wrong as Sally,yet Sally, yet Sally is the one seen as the bitch who fans claim tried to force Sonic to marry her and/or make him give up being a hero, and none of them who love to use this as an excuse to hate Sally actually bother to at least look at her side of the story while Sonic gets treated as the victim all because he's the [[DesignatedHero main hero]].
20th Jul '16 8:35:20 AM waters20
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* InformedWrongness: Issue #134, where Princess Sally slapped Sonic across the face out of rage after the latter decided to fight in the battlefield to defeat Eggman over ruling by the former's side. While it was indeed wrong for Sally to slap Sonic like that, nobody ever considered the fact that Sonic was about to risk his life another time after he had nearly died twice prior to the issue, and that really put a lot of massive stress on Sally since she had to live with Sonic being gone for a full year, thinking he was dead, not to mention that before that, Sonic became her official consort. While Sonic is the main hero who would risk his life to save those he loves, nothing indicates that he's the most important hero of Mobius that would render any of the other fighters that are more than capable of taking on Eggman just as well useless or otherwise less significant. Plus Sonic's arm was in a cast due to getting burned by a laser gun, meaning that he was not in any condition to fight in the battlefield, and doing so would possibly constitute his demise. However, he doesn't even seem to contemplate this and instead decides to fight Eggman while he's handicap anyway, not to mention that by doing this, he had broke his commitment to Sally after he had promised her to be there for her when she needed his help.

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* InformedWrongness: Issue #134, where Princess Sally slapped Sonic across the face out of rage after the latter decided to fight in the battlefield to defeat Eggman over ruling by the former's side. While it was indeed wrong for Sally to slap Sonic like that, nobody ever considered the fact that Sonic was about to risk his life another time after he had nearly died twice prior to the issue, and that really put a lot of massive stress on Sally since she had to live with Sonic being gone for a full year, thinking he was dead, not to mention that before that, Sonic became her official consort. While Sonic is the main hero who would risk his life to save those he loves, nothing indicates that he's the most important hero of Mobius that would render any of the other fighters that are more than capable of taking on Eggman just as well useless or otherwise less significant. Plus Sonic's arm was in a cast due to getting burned by a laser gun, meaning that he was not in any condition to fight in the battlefield, and doing so would possibly constitute his demise. However, he doesn't even seem to contemplate this and instead decides to fight Eggman while he's handicap anyway, not to mention that by doing this, he had broke his commitment to Sally after he had promised her to be there for her when she needed his help. So in reality, he's just as much in the wrong as Sally,yet Sally is the one seen as the bitch who fans claim tried to force Sonic to marry her and/or make him give up being a hero, and none of them who love to use this as an excuse to hate Sally actually bother to at least look at her side of the story while Sonic gets treated as the victim all because he's the [[DesignatedHero main hero]].
19th Jul '16 2:49:58 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* InformedWrongness: Issue #134, where Princess Sally slapped Sonic across the face out of rage after the latter decided to fight in the battlefield to defeat Eggman over ruling by the former's side. While it was indeed wrong for Sally to slap Sonic like that, nobody ever considered the fact that Sonic was about to risk his life another time after he had nearly died twice prior to the issue, and that really put a lot of massive stress on Sally since she had to live with Sonic being gone for a full year, thinking he was dead, not to mention that before that, Sonic became her official consort. While Sonic is the main hero who would risk his life to save those he loves, nothing indicates that he's the most important hero of Mobius that would render any of the other fighters that are more than capable of taking on Eggman just as well useless or otherwise less significant. Plus Sonic's arm was in a cast due to getting burned by a laser gun, meaning that he was not in any condition to fight in the battlefield, and doing so would possibly constitute his demise. However, he doesn't even seem to contemplate this and instead decides to fight Eggman while he's handicap anyway, not to mention that by doing this, he had broke his commitment to Sally after he had promised her to be there for her when she needed his help. So in reality, he's just as much in the wrong as Sally, yet Sally is seen by fans as the bitch who tried to force Sonic to marry her and/or make him give up being a hero while Sonic is the victim of this conflict.
** What makes this sadder is that most of the fans who [[NeverLiveItDown incessantly try to use this as an excuse to hate Sally]] have only seen that one panel without reading the whole issue (or the ones before it) to get the full understanding, and none of them even bother trying to see Sally's side of the story and make Sonic seem like the innocent one since he's the [[DesignatedHero main hero]].

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* InformedWrongness: Issue #134, where Princess Sally slapped Sonic across the face out of rage after the latter decided to fight in the battlefield to defeat Eggman over ruling by the former's side. While it was indeed wrong for Sally to slap Sonic like that, nobody ever considered the fact that Sonic was about to risk his life another time after he had nearly died twice prior to the issue, and that really put a lot of massive stress on Sally since she had to live with Sonic being gone for a full year, thinking he was dead, not to mention that before that, Sonic became her official consort. While Sonic is the main hero who would risk his life to save those he loves, nothing indicates that he's the most important hero of Mobius that would render any of the other fighters that are more than capable of taking on Eggman just as well useless or otherwise less significant. Plus Sonic's arm was in a cast due to getting burned by a laser gun, meaning that he was not in any condition to fight in the battlefield, and doing so would possibly constitute his demise. However, he doesn't even seem to contemplate this and instead decides to fight Eggman while he's handicap anyway, not to mention that by doing this, he had broke his commitment to Sally after he had promised her to be there for her when she needed his help. So in reality, he's just as much in the wrong as Sally, yet Sally is seen by fans as the bitch who tried to force Sonic to marry her and/or make him give up being a hero while Sonic is the victim of this conflict.\n** What makes this sadder is that most of the fans who [[NeverLiveItDown incessantly try to use this as an excuse to hate Sally]] have only seen that one panel without reading the whole issue (or the ones before it) to get the full understanding, and none of them even bother trying to see Sally's side of the story and make Sonic seem like the innocent one since he's the [[DesignatedHero main hero]].
19th Jul '16 2:44:31 PM Austin
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* {{Misblamed}}: ''Ken Penders.'' [[LoveItOrHateIt While the quality of his writing and art is an entirely subjective matter, ]] factions of the fandom would have you believe Ken Penders was the freaking Anti-Christ. A lot of the anger and hatred towards Ken Penders stems from the infamous lawsuit that forced the ContinuityReboot on the title. Though the reasonings and the outcome for all of this have not yet been revealed and may never will, many fans blame Penders due to the fact that they feel that his actions were motivated by greed and jealousy, which isn't helped by his constant declarations that he's trying to get fair payment for reprints of past comics for all workers and, upon the settlement, declaring that he was going to get to work on ''The Lara-Su Chronicles''.
** There are some valid points to why he is universally loathed by the fans of Archie Sonic comics; Ken was notorious for refusing to collaborate with other writers, [[ItsAllAboutMe and openly stated he never read any of their material for reference, that he is the sole reason the comic was successful, and only implemented his own ideas for the stories while disregarding everyone else's input]], which caused many plotholes during the comic's run. Besides, if Ben Hurst's story is to be believed, [[http://www.saturdaymorningsonic.com/features/ben_hurst/ Penders' meddling is the reason why SonicSatAM never got the feature animated movie which would serve as conclusion to the series.]]
18th Jul '16 11:29:46 AM waters20
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* InformedWrongness: Issue #134, where Princess Sally slapped Sonic across the face out of rage after the latter decided to fight in the battlefield to defeat Eggman over ruling by the former's side. While it was indeed wrong for Sally to slap Sonic like that, nobody ever considered the fact that Sonic was about to risk his life another time after he had nearly died twice prior to the issue, and that really put a lot of massive stress on Sally since she had to live with Sonic being gone for a full year, thinking he was dead, not to mention that before that, Sonic became her official consort. While Sonic is the main hero who would risk his life to save those he loves, nothing indicates that he's the most important hero of Mobius that would render any of the other fighters that are more than capable of taking on Eggman just as well useless or otherwise less significant. Plus Sonic's arm was in a cast due to getting burned by a laser gun, meaning that he was not in any condition to fight in the battlefield, and doing so would possibly constitute his demise. However, he doesn't even seem to contemplate this and instead decides to fight Eggman while he's handicap anyway, not to mention that by doing this, he had broke his commitment to Sally after he had promised her to be there for her when she needed his help. So in reality, he's just as much in the wrong as Sally, yet Sally is seen by fans as the bitch who tried to force Sonic to marry her and/or make him give up being a hero while Sonic is the victim of this conflict.
** What makes this sadder is that most of the fans who [[NeverLiveItDown incessantly try to use this as an excuse to hate Sally]] have only seen that one panel without reading the whole issue (or the ones before it) to get the full understanding, and none of them even bother trying to see Sally's side of the story and make Sonic seem like the innocent one since he's the [[DesignatedHero main hero]].
16th Jul '16 3:25:15 PM nombretomado
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Among the comic-only characters, Scourge has a large following (his girlfriend Fiona Fox and the rest of the Suppression Squad are a semi-case too through association), as do Mina Mongoose and Dr. Finitevus. The fandom rejoiced when [[AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog Scratch, Grounder and Coconuts]] were revealed to be returning after more than 100 issues of absence.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Among the comic-only characters, Scourge has a large following (his girlfriend Fiona Fox and the rest of the Suppression Squad are a semi-case too through association), as do Mina Mongoose and Dr. Finitevus. The fandom rejoiced when [[AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog [[WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog Scratch, Grounder and Coconuts]] were revealed to be returning after more than 100 issues of absence.
12th Jul '16 11:18:57 PM waters20
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* RonTheDeathEater: Thanks to the writers of the earlier arc, Princess Sally has fallen victim to this a lot. Yes, she did have her moments where she was kind of bitchy and a little bratty at times, but many fans often exaggerate how much of a bitch she really was. They claim that [[{{Narcissist}} she's spoiled and thinks everyone love her]], claim that she treats Sonic worse than she actually has treated him (and, to a slightly lesser extent, Amy, despite the fact that the two are actually close friends), call her selfish even though she's mostly selfless and her only act of selfishness was in issue #134 (which, by the way, [[NeverLiveItDown people keep endlessly using as evidence that she has always been a bitch]], ignoring the fact that it was an OutOfCharacterMoment), and even go as far to call her a "slut" for many ridiculous reasons (such as not wearing any clothes [[HalfDressedCartoonAnimal despite the fact that she's an anthropomorphic animal covered in fur]], or cheating on Sonic despite the fact that the times she dated two of each of the other guys were when she ''wasn't even in a relationship with Sonic''). In reality, Sally, in spite of her occasional outbursts whenever she deals with massive stress, is mostly kind, caring, selfless, and is always there for loved ones. Even after the reboot, however, where she is written much more in-character, there are still fans who demonize her and make these ridiculous claims as of today. It also doesn't help that many of the people who make such hateful and exaggerated claims [[DieForOurShip are fans of Amy Rose]].

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* RonTheDeathEater: Thanks to the writers of the earlier arc, Princess Sally has fallen victim to this a lot. Yes, she did have her moments where she was kind of bitchy and a little bratty at times, but many fans often exaggerate how much of a bitch she really was. They claim that [[{{Narcissist}} she's spoiled and thinks everyone love her]], claim that she treats Sonic worse than she actually has treated him (and, to a slightly lesser extent, Amy, despite the fact that the two are actually close friends), call her selfish even though she's mostly selfless and her only act of selfishness was in issue #134 (which, by the way, [[NeverLiveItDown people keep endlessly using as evidence that she has always been a bitch]], ignoring the fact that it was an OutOfCharacterMoment), and even go as far to call her a "slut" for many ridiculous reasons (such as not wearing any clothes [[HalfDressedCartoonAnimal despite the fact that she's an anthropomorphic animal covered in fur]], or cheating on Sonic despite the fact that the times she dated two of each of the other guys were when she ''wasn't even in a relationship with Sonic''). In reality, Sally, in spite of her occasional outbursts whenever she deals with massive stress, is mostly kind, caring, selfless, and is always there for loved ones. Even after the reboot, however, where she is written much more in-character, there are still fans who demonize her and make these ridiculous claims as of today. It also doesn't help that many of the people who make such hateful and exaggerated claims [[DieForOurShip are fans of Amy Rose]].Rose]], most of whom even make fanfics portraying Sally as the villain who either mistreats Sonic or constantly cheats on him.
12th Jul '16 8:55:39 PM waters20
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* RonTheDeathEater: Thanks to the writers of the earlier arc, Princess Sally has fallen victim to this a lot. Yes, she did have her moments where she was kind of bitchy and a little bratty at times, but many fans often exaggerate how much of a bitch she really was. They claim that [[{{Narcissist}} she's spoiled and thinks everyone love her]], claim that she treats Sonic worse than she actually has treated him (and, to a slightly lesser extent, Amy, despite the fact that the two are actually close friends), call her selfish even though she's mostly selfless and her only act of selfishness was in issue #134 (which, by the way, [[NeverLiveItDown people keep endlessly using that as evidence that she has always been a bitch]], ignoring the fact that it was an OutOfCharacterMoment), and even go as far to call her a "slut" for many ridiculous reasons (such as not wearing any clothes [[HalfDressedCartoonAnimal despite the fact that she's an anthropomorphic animal covered in fur]], or cheating on Sonic despite the fact that two of the guys she has dated were when she ''wasn't even in a relationship with Sonic during those instances''). In reality, Sally, in spite of her occasional outbursts whenever she deals with massive stress, is mostly kind, caring, selfless, and is always there for loved ones. Even after the reboot, however, where she is written much more in-character, there are still fans who demonize her and make these ridiculous claims as of today. It also doesn't help that many of the people who make such hateful and exaggerated claims [[DieForOurShip are fans of Amy Rose]].

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* RonTheDeathEater: Thanks to the writers of the earlier arc, Princess Sally has fallen victim to this a lot. Yes, she did have her moments where she was kind of bitchy and a little bratty at times, but many fans often exaggerate how much of a bitch she really was. They claim that [[{{Narcissist}} she's spoiled and thinks everyone love her]], claim that she treats Sonic worse than she actually has treated him (and, to a slightly lesser extent, Amy, despite the fact that the two are actually close friends), call her selfish even though she's mostly selfless and her only act of selfishness was in issue #134 (which, by the way, [[NeverLiveItDown people keep endlessly using that as evidence that she has always been a bitch]], ignoring the fact that it was an OutOfCharacterMoment), and even go as far to call her a "slut" for many ridiculous reasons (such as not wearing any clothes [[HalfDressedCartoonAnimal despite the fact that she's an anthropomorphic animal covered in fur]], or cheating on Sonic despite the fact that the times she dated two of each of the other guys she has dated were when she ''wasn't even in a relationship with Sonic during those instances'').Sonic''). In reality, Sally, in spite of her occasional outbursts whenever she deals with massive stress, is mostly kind, caring, selfless, and is always there for loved ones. Even after the reboot, however, where she is written much more in-character, there are still fans who demonize her and make these ridiculous claims as of today. It also doesn't help that many of the people who make such hateful and exaggerated claims [[DieForOurShip are fans of Amy Rose]].
11th Jul '16 11:30:55 AM LogicallyInsane
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**There are some valid points to why he is universally loathed by the fans of Archie Sonic comics; Ken was notorious for refusing to collaborate with other writers, [[ItsAllAboutMe and openly stated he never read any of their material for reference, that he is the sole reason the comic was successful, and only implemented his own ideas for the stories while disregarding everyone else's input]], which caused many plotholes during the comic's run. Besides, if Ben Hurst's story is to be believed, [[http://www.saturdaymorningsonic.com/features/ben_hurst/ Penders' meddling is the reason why SonicSatAM never got the feature animated movie which would serve as conclusion to the series.]]
10th Jul '16 8:04:59 PM waters20
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* RonTheDeathEater: Thanks to the writers of the earlier arc, Princess Sally has fallen victim to this a lot. Yes, she did have her moments where she was kind of bitchy and a little bratty at times, but many fans often exaggerate how much of a bitch she really was. They claim that [[{{Narcissist}} she's spoiled and thinks everyone love her]], treats Sonic worse than she actually has treated him (and, to a slightly lesser extent, Amy, despite the fact that the two are actually close friends), calls her selfish even though she's mostly selfless and her only act of selfishness was in issue #134 (which, by the way, [[NeverLiveItDown people keep endlessly using that as evidence that she has always been a bitch]], ignoring the fact that it was an OutOfCharacterMoment), and even go as far to call her a "slut" for many ridiculous reasons (such as not wearing any clothes [[HalfDressedCartoonAnimal despite the fact that she's an anthropomorphic animal covered in fur]], or cheating on Sonic despite the fact that two of the guys she has dated were when she ''wasn't even in a relationship with Sonic during those instances''). Even after the reboot, where she is written much more in-character, there are still fans who make these ridiculous claim as of today. It also doesn't help that many of the people who make such hateful and exaggerated claims [[DieForOurShip are fans of Amy Rose]].

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* RonTheDeathEater: Thanks to the writers of the earlier arc, Princess Sally has fallen victim to this a lot. Yes, she did have her moments where she was kind of bitchy and a little bratty at times, but many fans often exaggerate how much of a bitch she really was. They claim that [[{{Narcissist}} she's spoiled and thinks everyone love her]], claim that she treats Sonic worse than she actually has treated him (and, to a slightly lesser extent, Amy, despite the fact that the two are actually close friends), calls call her selfish even though she's mostly selfless and her only act of selfishness was in issue #134 (which, by the way, [[NeverLiveItDown people keep endlessly using that as evidence that she has always been a bitch]], ignoring the fact that it was an OutOfCharacterMoment), and even go as far to call her a "slut" for many ridiculous reasons (such as not wearing any clothes [[HalfDressedCartoonAnimal despite the fact that she's an anthropomorphic animal covered in fur]], or cheating on Sonic despite the fact that two of the guys she has dated were when she ''wasn't even in a relationship with Sonic during those instances''). In reality, Sally, in spite of her occasional outbursts whenever she deals with massive stress, is mostly kind, caring, selfless, and is always there for loved ones. Even after the reboot, however, where she is written much more in-character, there are still fans who demonize her and make these ridiculous claim claims as of today. It also doesn't help that many of the people who make such hateful and exaggerated claims [[DieForOurShip are fans of Amy Rose]].
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