History YMMV / ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog

15th Sep '17 2:46:03 PM ChaoticNovelist
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** [[BadassPrincess Blaze the Cat]]. This sentiment mostly stem from "Pirate Plunder Panic", where Blaze got [[DamselInDistress captured and had to be rescued from captivity]] ''twice'' and actually spent the entirety of one issue in a cage. Due to her speed and powerset making her [[StoryBreakerPower too effective]], Blaze commonly gets [[TapOnTheHead knocked unconscious]], usually by getting [[InTheBack caught off-guard from behind]].

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** [[BadassPrincess Blaze the Cat]].Cat. This sentiment mostly stem from "Pirate Plunder Panic", where Blaze got [[DamselInDistress captured and had to be rescued from captivity]] ''twice'' and actually spent the entirety of one issue in a cage. Due to her speed and powerset making her [[StoryBreakerPower too effective]], Blaze commonly gets [[TapOnTheHead knocked unconscious]], usually by getting [[InTheBack caught off-guard from behind]].



** Princess Sally Acorn. Depending on who you ask, she’s either the absolute best female Sonic character, if not the best overall character in the franchise, who is the perfect foil and love interest for Sonic, a proactive ActionGirl, has a loving personality, and a positive influence on all the characters. Or a very boring and unlovable character whose influence has a very negative impact on the other characters (especially Sonic and, as of recently, Cream), reeks of PositiveDiscrimination, and a FauxActionGirl. Not helping matters at all is Sally’s [[SpotlightStealingSquad prominent usage]], which has increased [[UpToEleven even further]] ever since Ian Flynn took over as head writer of the comics, causing detractors to label her as a blatant CreatorsPet, while supporters in turn defend said prominence as a necessary move to [[CharacterRerailment undo the damage]] the late Penders/Bollers era had done to the character. And that's without getting into the shipping side of things.

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** Princess Sally Acorn. Depending on who you ask, she’s either the absolute best female Sonic character, if not the best overall character in the franchise, who is the perfect foil and love interest for Sonic, a proactive ActionGirl, has a loving personality, and a positive influence on all the characters. Or a very boring and unlovable character whose influence has a very negative impact on the other characters (especially Sonic and, as of recently, and Cream), reeks of PositiveDiscrimination, and a FauxActionGirl. Not helping matters at all is Sally’s [[SpotlightStealingSquad prominent usage]], which has increased [[UpToEleven even further]] ever since Ian Flynn took over as head writer of the comics, causing detractors to label her as a blatant CreatorsPet, while supporters in turn defend said prominence as a necessary move to [[CharacterRerailment undo the damage]] the late Penders/Bollers era had done to the character. And that's without getting into the shipping side of things.
10th Sep '17 4:19:13 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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** Princess Sally Acorn. Depending on who you ask, she’s either the absolute best female Sonic character, if not the best overall character in the franchise, who is the perfect foil and love interest for Sonic, a proactive ActionGirl, has a loving personality, and a positive influence on all the characters. Or a very boring and unlovable character whose influence has a very negative impact on the other characters (especially Sonic and, as of recently, Cream), reeks of PositiveDiscrimination, and a FauxActionGirl. Not helping matters at all is Sally’s [[SpotlightStealingSquad prominent usage]], which has increased [[UpToEleven even further]] ever since Ian Flynn took over as head writer of the comics, causing detractors to label her as a blatant CreatorsPet. And that's without getting into the shipping side of things.

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** Princess Sally Acorn. Depending on who you ask, she’s either the absolute best female Sonic character, if not the best overall character in the franchise, who is the perfect foil and love interest for Sonic, a proactive ActionGirl, has a loving personality, and a positive influence on all the characters. Or a very boring and unlovable character whose influence has a very negative impact on the other characters (especially Sonic and, as of recently, Cream), reeks of PositiveDiscrimination, and a FauxActionGirl. Not helping matters at all is Sally’s [[SpotlightStealingSquad prominent usage]], which has increased [[UpToEleven even further]] ever since Ian Flynn took over as head writer of the comics, causing detractors to label her as a blatant CreatorsPet.CreatorsPet, while supporters in turn defend said prominence as a necessary move to [[CharacterRerailment undo the damage]] the late Penders/Bollers era had done to the character. And that's without getting into the shipping side of things.
4th Sep '17 5:28:50 AM KamonTheSkunk
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** The one thing these scrappies have in common is that the lawsuit had the positive effect of ensuring they didn't even have the smallest chance of returning, even before Archie lost the license completely.
4th Sep '17 5:06:19 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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** Flynn's portrayal of Amy Rose is also very well-liked, as many fans felt he managed to strike a good balance between the GirlyGirl and ActionGirl aspects of her character.

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** Flynn's portrayal of Amy Rose is also very well-liked, as many fans felt he managed to strike a good balance between the GirlyGirl GirlyGirl, ActionGirl, and ActionGirl Sonic FanGirl aspects of her character.
2nd Sep '17 3:07:05 PM TheAmazingBlachman
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* MyRealDaddy: Ian Flynn is considered this for Scourge for giving him a cool and distinctive new look and making him into a more intimidating and complex villain instead of the stereotypical EvilTwin he was before.

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Ian Flynn is considered this for Scourge for giving him a cool and distinctive new look and making him into a more intimidating and complex villain instead of the stereotypical EvilTwin he was before.before.
** Flynn's portrayal of Amy Rose is also very well-liked, as many fans felt he managed to strike a good balance between the GirlyGirl and ActionGirl aspects of her character.
18th Aug '17 6:36:48 AM KamonTheSkunk
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* FandomBerserkButton: If you want to really make a good number of fans upset, say that Ken Penders caused/forced the comic to reboot, as fans will call you out for saying such a thing. While he was a contributing factor to it, he's not the sole reason why the comic was rebooted, as Archie and SEGA are equally at fault too.
15th Aug '17 5:15:03 AM KamonTheSkunk
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* CreatorsPet:
** Tommy Turtle, a childhood friend of Sonic [[RememberTheNewGuy that had never been mentioned before]], but had once taught him a valuable life lesson. He died in his first appearance while performing a HeroicSacrifice to save Sonic, but about a year later was revealed to not have actually been killed and was brought back. Unfortunately, after bringing him back, the writers didn't seem to have any real idea what to do with him, and attempts to make him more relevant (such as having him become infested with nanobots, causing him to develop ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}''-esque abilities) ended up just appearing ridiculous and making fans hate him. In Sonic Grams while Archie staff admitted that they knew a lot of their fans hadn't liked the character, they'd hoped they could change their tune, showing the clear divide between the staff at Archie at the time and the people actually reading the book. In the end writer Ian Flynn said when compiling a list of the comic's most unpopular characters, Tommy still ranked very high among the fanbase despite efforts to make him popular by previous writers. Tommy was therefore killed off (performing ''another'' HeroicSacrifice) and hasn't been seen since.

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* CreatorsPet:
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CreatorsPet: Tommy Turtle, a childhood friend of Sonic [[RememberTheNewGuy that had never been mentioned before]], but had once taught him a valuable life lesson. He died in his first appearance while performing a HeroicSacrifice to save Sonic, but about a year later was revealed to not have actually been killed and was brought back. Unfortunately, after bringing him back, the writers didn't seem to have any real idea what to do with him, and attempts to make him more relevant (such as having him become infested with nanobots, causing him to develop ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}''-esque abilities) ended up just appearing ridiculous and making fans hate him. In Sonic Grams while Archie staff admitted that they knew a lot of their fans hadn't liked the character, they'd hoped they could change their tune, showing the clear divide between the staff at Archie at the time and the people actually reading the book. In the end writer Ian Flynn said when compiling a list of the comic's most unpopular characters, Tommy still ranked very high among the fanbase despite efforts to make him popular by previous writers. Tommy was therefore killed off (performing ''another'' HeroicSacrifice) and hasn't been seen since.



** Finally, for all of the ExecutiveMeddling SEGA has done with the comic ever since its reboot. To name a few examples, the characters cannot have any CharacterDevelopment unless it's approved, Sonic always has to win no matter what and the characters can have no parents or relatives. Before the reboot was forced, the comic was able to have all of that and even more creative liberty, but pos-reboot it's much more restrictive.

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** Finally, for all of the ExecutiveMeddling SEGA has done with the comic ever since its reboot. To name a few examples, the characters cannot have any CharacterDevelopment unless it's approved, Sonic always has to win no matter what and the characters can have no parents or relatives. Before the reboot was forced, the comic was able to have all of that and even more creative liberty, but pos-reboot it's post-reboot, it was much more restrictive.



** In October 2013 we saw the release of The Complete Sonic Comic Encyclopedia, which pretty much tells us everything that has happened in the comics since it's release and information on the characters. Unfortunately, this was released five months before the comic's reboot due to the lawsuit. So the encyclopedia covers almost everything that happened in the comic before its reboot, making it a good way to remember the old comics' story.

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** In October 2013 we saw the release of The Complete Sonic Comic Encyclopedia, which pretty much tells us everything that has happened in the comics since it's release and information on the characters. Unfortunately, this it was released five months before the comic's reboot due to the lawsuit. So the encyclopedia covers almost everything that happened in the comic before its reboot, making it a good way to remember the old comics' story.



* NeverLiveItDown:
** Many fans aren't willing to let Sally live down the time she slapped Sonic in anger. Even after repeated displays of remorse from the character, and even a CosmicRetcon rendering it CanonDiscontinuity, there are still fans who will hold it against her. Her [[MsFanservice vest and boots]] and nothing else design from the cartoon and pre-reboot is also what a lot of people remember about her, despite the reboot changing this.

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* NeverLiveItDown:
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NeverLiveItDown: Many fans aren't willing to let Sally live down the time she slapped Sonic in anger. Even after repeated displays of remorse from the character, and even a CosmicRetcon rendering it CanonDiscontinuity, there are still fans who will hold it against her. Her [[MsFanservice vest and boots]] and nothing else design from the cartoon and pre-reboot is also what a lot of people remember about her, despite the reboot changing this.



* VanillaProtagonist:
** Princess Sally became this in her own mini series. Her role in the main books being largely to play TheStraightMan to Sonic, she was left with little chemistry in his absence, leaving her supporting cast to provide most of the conflict and foibles while Sally simply progressed through the mission. Some argue she was still this when she got her own arc in the main comic years later, which similarly relied on several supporting characters and has a somewhat inconsistent mark on her character.

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* VanillaProtagonist:
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VanillaProtagonist: Princess Sally became this in her own mini series. Her role in the main books being largely to play TheStraightMan to Sonic, she was left with little chemistry in his absence, leaving her supporting cast to provide most of the conflict and foibles while Sally simply progressed through the mission. Some argue she was still this when she got her own arc in the main comic years later, which similarly relied on several supporting characters and has a somewhat inconsistent mark on her character.
6th Aug '17 8:01:48 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* UnexpectedCharacter:
** Issue 268 features Breezie from ''WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog''.
** The following issue introduces Advertising/SegataSanshiro and [[WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog Wes Weasley]].
** Madonna, Sonic's cut human girlfriend from before the first game came out, was featured in Super Digest #12 as an agent of GUN and as an apparent expy of Agent Topaz from ''Anime/SonicX'' due to her appearance and last name, Garnet.
28th Jul '17 2:48:30 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Of the many complaints the reboot received, one of the notable ones was the due to the new rules being enforced by SEGA, (Sonic can't show any emotions, he always win no matter what, no character development, etc...) fans felt that the comic had become ''too'' similar to the games. Before the reboot, there weren't any restrictive rules, so as long as a original Sonic character had something to do with the plot, the comic could go into any story direction it wanted to and readers liked things that way. With the reboot restricting the comic to not having anywhere near as much creative liberty as before, it was seen as too similar to the games, which resulted in many who have read the comic for many years to just [[FanDiscontinuity stop reading it altogether.]]

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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Of the many complaints the reboot received, one of the notable ones was the due to the new rules being enforced by SEGA, (Sonic can't show any emotions, he always win no matter what, no character development, etc...) fans felt that the comic had become ''too'' similar to the games. Before the reboot, there weren't any restrictive rules, so as long as a original Sonic character had something to do with the plot, the comic could go into any story direction it wanted to and readers liked things that way. With the reboot restricting the comic to not having anywhere near as much creative liberty as before, it was seen as too similar to the games, which resulted in many who have read the comic for many years to just [[FanDiscontinuity [[FanonDiscontinuity stop reading it altogether.]]altogether]].



* LesYay: Arguably, between Sally and Nicole in the ''Spark of Life'' storyline. Sally seems to be closer to Nicole than to anybody else, and gets extremely pissed off at Nicole's creator for considering her a failure. Nicole, meanwhile, constantly makes glasses at Sally, teases her, and specifically wanted to see the stars the way Sally did in a flashback.
** [[WordOfGay Ian Flynn confirmed]] [[https://twitter.com/IanFlynnBKC/status/889745270279475200 that this was intentional.]]

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* LesYay: Arguably, between Between Sally and Nicole in the ''Spark of Life'' storyline. Sally seems to be closer to Nicole than to anybody else, and gets extremely pissed off at Nicole's creator for considering her a failure. Nicole, meanwhile, constantly makes glasses at Sally, teases her, and specifically wanted to see the stars the way Sally did in a flashback.
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flashback. [[WordOfGay Ian Flynn confirmed]] [[https://twitter.com/IanFlynnBKC/status/889745270279475200 that this was intentional.]]intentional]].
26th Jul '17 8:36:09 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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* CharacterRerailment: Many fans feel that the early Flynn era managed to re-establish Sally as TheStrategist and FrontlineGeneral of the Freedom Fighters, after the Penders/Bollers era, especially the latter end of it, had seen her undergoing a serious bit of {{Chickification}} and becoming a more passive character who was often relegated to the sidelines.

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* CharacterRerailment: Many fans feel that the early Flynn era managed to re-establish Sally as TheStrategist the tactician and FrontlineGeneral of the Freedom Fighters, after the Penders/Bollers era, especially the latter end of it, had seen her undergoing a serious bit of {{Chickification}} and becoming a more passive character who was often relegated to the sidelines.
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