History YMMV / Archer

26th May '17 12:17:09 AM TheHoff779
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** Seasons 7 and 8, much like season 5, had overarching plot lines tying their episodes together. [[spoiler: both times these plot lines ultimately get resolved anti-climatically with several questions left unanswered; Longwater was just an insurance scam, Dream!Woodhouse was killed by Dutch on a whim. Elements of the fandom have not received this apparent trend into AntiClimax and TheChrisCarterEffect well.]]
13th May '17 2:13:45 AM mariofan1000
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* AssPull: Even with the fact that he's MadeOfIron and it left him in a coma, Archer surviving [[spoiler: being shot and left bleeding in a pool for what very well was probably hours]] at all counts as this.

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* AssPull: Even with the fact that he's MadeOfIron and it left him in a coma, Archer surviving [[spoiler: being shot and left bleeding in a pool for what very well was probably hours]] at all counts as this.
12th May '17 5:31:05 AM memetron
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** Archer is clinically insane. The countless traumas heaped on him by his mother as he grew up, coupled with the stress of his work as a spy, and compounded by multiple brain injuries (including two cases of meatball surgery and a mind-control chip) and [[spoiler: Katya's and Jakov's]] deaths, has gradually pushed him to further and further extremes of disassociation with reality, up to the point where he has a two-month-long retrograde amnesia episode at the start of the fourth season, where he thinks he's [[WesternAnimation/BobsBurgers Bob]].
*** He also might have an AmbiguousDisorder; Lana and several other characters have speculated that Archer might have some sort of developmental disorder, if not atypical autism.

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** Archer is clinically insane. The countless traumas heaped on him by his mother as he grew up, coupled with the stress of his work as a spy, and compounded by multiple brain injuries (including two cases of meatball surgery and a mind-control chip) and [[spoiler: Katya's and Jakov's]] deaths, has gradually pushed him to further and further extremes of disassociation with reality, up to the point where he has a two-month-long retrograde amnesia episode at the start of the fourth season, where he thinks he's [[WesternAnimation/BobsBurgers Bob]].
*** He also might have an AmbiguousDisorder; Lana and several other characters have speculated that Archer might have some sort of developmental disorder, if not disorder or atypical autism.autism.
*** In a flashback we see a young Archer being shuffled out of a child psychiatrist's office by an outraged Malory, calling the doctor a quack, possibly implying that she or Woodhouse noticed something was off about him, but when the doctor said it might be autism, she angrily refused the idea outright. (He also can't figure out a simple shape-sorter game at what we assume is at least 5 years old).



** Did Archer ever cheat on Lana or was it just a combination her insecurities about her looks and NeverMyFault tendencies projected on to him. In season 7 while Archer was attracted to Veronica Deane (as was everyone else) that was it. He only kissed her after seeing Lana tried an OperationJealousy after seeing the two having a business conversation. Then later after torturing Archer to find out if he had feeling for her and refused to accept no for an answer. This caused her to break up with Archer (take a break) only to perform OperationJealousy again. Archer’s responded by sleeping with Veronica.
** Cheryl/Carol is actually a sensitive {{woobie}} who's afraid of alienating other people with [[spoiler:her wealth]], and she keeps working at ISIS because her coworkers are her only close friends. The woman's [[spoiler:worth millions]], so she obviously doesn't [[spoiler:need the paycheck]]. And she's probably been at ISIS for at least a few years, but the others didn't find out about [[spoiler:her wealthy family]] until late in Season 2. Considering how open she usually is about personal stuff (like her weird fetishes) it seems a little odd that she kept that little detail to herself for so long. Maybe she was afraid of losing her only real friendships.
** Alternatively, given Cheryl/Carol's statements about thriving on hatred for those around her (saying it's the only reason she gets out of bed in the morning in the season four premier) and her admission to Sterling that she's aroused not only by physical but also emotional abuse, hanging out with the violent, dysfunctional ISIS crew might be a pleasurable experience for her. When she revealed [[spoiler:that she was loaded]] everyone treated her more nicely and less like a lowly secretary which coincided with her becoming much more bratty and mean because she wasn't getting the abuse she craved from them.
** Was it really an accident that Cyril shot the defecting KGB operative (see WhatAnIdiot, below)? Or is he secretly a KGB sleeper agent?

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** Did Archer ever cheat on Lana or was it just a combination her insecurities about her looks and NeverMyFault tendencies projected on to him. In season 7 while Archer was attracted to Veronica Deane (as was everyone else) that was it. He only kissed her after seeing Lana tried an OperationJealousy after seeing the two having a business conversation. Then later after torturing Archer to find out if he had feeling feelings for her and refused to accept no for an answer. This caused her to break up with Archer (take a break) only to perform OperationJealousy again. Archer’s responded by sleeping with Veronica.
** Cheryl/Carol is actually a sensitive {{woobie}} who's afraid of alienating other people with [[spoiler:her wealth]], and she keeps working at ISIS because her coworkers are her only close friends. The woman's [[spoiler:worth millions]], so she obviously doesn't [[spoiler:need the paycheck]]. And she's before she revealed her wealth to them she had probably been at ISIS for at least a few years, but the others didn't find out about [[spoiler:her wealthy family]] until late in Season 2. Considering how open she usually is about personal stuff (like her weird fetishes) it seems a little odd that she kept that little detail to herself for so long. Maybe she was afraid of losing her only real friendships.
** Alternatively, given Cheryl/Carol's statements about thriving on hatred for those around her (saying it's the only reason she gets out of bed in the morning in the season four premier) and her admission to Sterling that she's aroused not only by physical but also emotional abuse, hanging out with the violent, dysfunctional ISIS crew might be a pleasurable experience for her. When she revealed [[spoiler:that she was loaded]] everyone treated her more nicely and less like a lowly secretary which coincided with her becoming much more bratty taunting and mean because she wasn't getting the abuse she craved from them.
** Was it really an accident that Cyril shot the defecting KGB operative (see WhatAnIdiot, below)? Or is he secretly a KGB sleeper agent?
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* AssPull: Even with the fact that he's MadeOfIron and it left him in a coma, Archer surviving [[spoiler: being shot and left bleeding in a pool for hours]] at all counts as this.

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* AssPull: Even with the fact that he's MadeOfIron and it left him in a coma, Archer surviving [[spoiler: being shot and left bleeding in a pool for what very well was probably hours]] at all counts as this.



** It's safe to say that every song that Cherlene sings is unadulterated awesome.

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** It's safe to say that every song that Cherlene sings is pure, unadulterated awesome.



** Lana. Depends on whether or not you find her OnlySaneMan traits hilarious or naggy. Her callous behavior during Season 6 and 7 made her even more divisive.



* CrazyAwesome: Cheryl, the pyromaniac secretary who spouts non sequiturs at any given moment, eats glue as a snack, and somehow becomes a successful country singer despite her insanity.

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* CrazyAwesome: Cheryl, the filthy rich pyromaniac secretary who spouts non sequiturs at any given moment, eats glue as a snack, and rubber cement, and somehow becomes a successful country singer despite her insanity.



** Archer himself, if you consider him evil-pretty much any time he's actually in a fight, he's badass incarnate. Like in "Swiss Miss", where he kills all of the terrorists chasing him on snowmobiles without much effort, only acquiring a gun halfway through the chase, or his maneuver at the beginning of "Job Offer", or almost everything he does in "Skorpio".
** Krieger, from performing successful brain surgery while high on acid to disposing of a dead body with minimal traces in "Lo Scandalo".

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** Archer himself, if you consider him evil-pretty much any time he's actually in a fight, he's badass incarnate. Like in "Swiss Miss", where he kills all of the terrorists chasing him on snowmobiles without much effort, only acquiring a gun halfway through the chase, or his maneuver at the beginning of "Job Offer", or almost everything he does in "Skorpio".
** Krieger, from performing successful brain surgery while high on acid acid, to disposing of a dead body with minimal traces in "Lo Scandalo".



* FanPreferredCouple: Archer/Katya, Archer/Lana, Pam/Cheryl.
* FetishRetardant: [[spoiler: Cyborg]] Katya. Archer learned the hard way that her [[spoiler: genitals are detachable. Krieger also mentioned that her skin was made from dead hobos and the sight of robot parts peeking out from her wounds after fighting Barry are all gruesome reminders of how little of the real Katya remains]].

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* FanPreferredCouple: Archer/Katya, Archer/Lana, Pam/Cheryl.
* FetishRetardant: [[spoiler: Cyborg]] Katya. Archer learned the hard way that her [[spoiler: genitals are detachable. Krieger also mentioned that her skin was made from dead hobos and the sight of robot parts peeking out from her wounds after fighting Barry are all gruesome reminders of how little of the real original Katya remains]].



** The HoneyPot seems to be a fairly common tactic used by ISIS.



** Also, of the end of Season 7, [[spoiler:Archer himself. There are many theories, from another cyborg to Archer escaping to Mexico with Veronica to Archer actually being Luigi.]] Turned out to be somewhat true, as he's NotQuiteDead.



** Archer's obsession with wearing a turtleneck sweater on every mission just became a bit funnier now that James Bond is shown wearing one for ''Film/{{Spectre}}''

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** Archer's obsession insistence with wearing a turtleneck sweater on every mission missions just became a bit funnier now that James Bond is shown wearing one for ''Film/{{Spectre}}''



** The episode ''Live and Let Dine'' is essentially a parody of ''Series/KitchenNightmares.'' Now, look at the show and see how it has pretty much copied the bumper from ''Bastard Chef.''
* HoYay: "Honeypot," "Double Deuce" and "The Wind Cries Mary" are drenched in it.

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** The episode ''Live and Let Dine'' is essentially a parody of ''Series/KitchenNightmares.'' Now, look at the show and see how it has pretty much copied the bumper from ''Bastard Chef.''
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* HoYay: "Honeypot," and "Double Deuce" and "The Wind Cries Mary" are drenched in it.it (also, at the very end of "Bloody Ferlin").



** Archer, and considering the childhood he had, it's clear he has a heckova FreudianExcuse.

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** Archer, and considering the childhood he had, it's clear he has a heckova hell of a FreudianExcuse.



*** To go further than that: [[spoiler:being alone on his sixth birthday because his mother couldn't be bothered to be there and Woodhouse getting high on heroin in the bathroom, getting lost in New York at the age of nine because Malory couldn't be bothered to tell him she moved, getting breast cancer, his friend Ruth dying, his fiancé –as far as he knew– dying, her leaving him after finding out she's alive, just to name a few things.]]

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*** To go further than that: [[spoiler:being alone on his sixth birthday because his mother couldn't be bothered to be there and Woodhouse getting high on heroin in the bathroom, getting lost in New York at the age of nine on Christmas Eve because Malory couldn't be bothered to tell him his school that she moved, getting breast cancer, his friend Ruth dying, his fiancé –as far as he knew– dying, her leaving him after finding out she's alive, being raped twice, just to name a few things.]]



** Security cameras filmed Archer switching blood samples to get out of the paternity suit over the Wee Baby Seamus. [[CantGetAwayWithNuthin The test turned out positive anyway]], so Barry altered the security footage and let Archer get nailed in court. And since Archer waived his rights...

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** Security cameras filmed Archer switching blood samples to get out of the paternity suit over the Wee Baby Seamus. [[CantGetAwayWithNuthin The test turned out positive anyway]], Seamus, so Barry altered the security footage and let Archer get nailed in court. And since Archer waived his rights...



** "Seriously, are we not doing phrasing anymore?" is used when somebody says something that sounds inappropriate or really dumb.

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** "Seriously, are we not doing phrasing anymore?" is used in the later seasons when somebody says something that sounds inappropriate or really dumb.inappropriate.



* {{Shipping}}: Since pretty much every member of the main cast has at least some ShipTease with everyone else, this is inevitable.
* TheScrappy:

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* {{Shipping}}: Since pretty much every member of the main cast has at least some ShipTease with everyone someone else, this is inevitable.
* TheScrappy:TheScrappy



** Rodney, for being a one-note ObstructiveBureaucrat with nothing interesting about him. His scenes felt more like padding than anything else.



** To some, the Archer/Lana relationship of season six.

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** To some, the Archer/Lana relationship of during season six.
10th May '17 3:32:11 AM mariofan1000
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* ToughActToFollow: Season 3 received acclaim from both critics and the fans, being considered one of the best seasons of television that year. Season 4, although still considered a good season, received criticism for less interesting, creative plots, and humour that didn't land quite as often.
8th May '17 7:57:42 PM Shadeblade11
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** Lana. Depends on whether or not you find her OnlySaneMan traits hilarious or naggy.

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** Lana. Depends on whether or not you find her OnlySaneMan traits hilarious or naggy. Her callous behavior during Season 6 and 7 made her even more divisive.



** Pam's sister, Edie, albeit intentionally. Who occupies her screentime endlessly berating and insulting Pam. It really tells you something when someone can outdick ''Barry''.



** Lana turned into this during Season 6 and 7. Between her callous behavior when she [[spoiler: hired an actor to kidnap AJ just to have Archer prove he'd do anything to save her]] and [[spoiler: callously laughing in Cyril's face when he says he still loves her]], the fans were completely disgusted with her behavior. Her less active role has made her much more boring to the fans.
7th May '17 6:53:44 PM Matt620
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** Lana turned into this during Season 6 and 7. Between her callous behavior when she [[spoiler: hired an actor to kidnap AJ just to have Archer prove he'd do anything to save her]] and [[spoiler: callously laughing in Cyril's face when he says he still loves her]], the fans were completely disgusted with her behavior. Her less active role has made her much more boring to the fans.
6th May '17 8:46:28 PM Shadeblade11
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** Lana turned into this during Season 6 and 7. Between her callous behavior when she [[spoiler: hired an actor to kidnap AJ just to have Archer prove he'd do anything to save her]] and [[spoiler: callously laughing in Cyril's face when he says he still loves her]], the fans were completely disgusted with her behavior. Her less active role has made her much more boring to the fans.
3rd May '17 4:17:32 AM Shadeblade11
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* FailureIsTheOnlyOption: Some fans complained that in Seasons 5 and beyond, episodes are concluding in failure no matter what, in a formula resembling ''ArrestedDevelopment.''
1st May '17 12:34:57 AM Shadeblade11
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* IKnewIt: Archer [[spoiler:being the father of Lana's daughter.]] It was quickly theorised after Lana [[spoiler:announced she was pregnant in "Sea Tunt Part II".]]
28th Apr '17 5:10:07 PM mariofan1000
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* Asspull: Even with the fact that he's MadeOfIron and it left him in a coma, Archer surviving the events of "Deadly Velvet" at all counts as this.

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* Asspull: AssPull: Even with the fact that he's MadeOfIron and it left him in a coma, Archer surviving the events of "Deadly Velvet" [[spoiler: being shot and left bleeding in a pool for hours]] at all counts as this.
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