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** The Magog of Season 1 [[SpecialEffectsFailure reminds some of]] [[{{Narm}} the Party Store Gorilla.]] It's probably not a coincidence that in later seasons the Magog were often not shown onscreen when attacking, with only their ships and characters' reactions to them being shown. Season 4 eventually found an excuse to change the species altogether by [[spoiler: bringing in an evolved version of the Magog from the future]] and completely changing Rev Bem's appearance for guest appearances.
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** The While some viewers may consider the Magog of Season 1 to be NightmareFuel, [[SpecialEffectsFailure reminds some others are reminded of]] [[{{Narm}} the Party Store Gorilla.]] It's probably not a coincidence that in later seasons the Magog were often not shown onscreen when attacking, with only their ships and characters' reactions to them being shown. Season 4 eventually found an excuse to change the species altogether by [[spoiler: bringing in an evolved version of the Magog from the future]] and completely changing Rev Bem's appearance for guest appearances.
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* InformedAttribute: The Magog are treated as the most terrifying race in the universe. When they actually appear onscreen, they... don't quite live up to the hype. Not only are they very obviously [[SpecialEffectsFailure people lumbering awkwardly in animal suits]], but they get shot down as easily as Storm Troopers when a swarm is attacking a small group of heroes, and have some cringe-worthy dialogue like "Leader... not want food?" that seems more fitting for a show aimed at very young children than a sci-fi drama. It's probably not a conicodince that the Magog were replaced by other villains in later seasons, and when they did crop up, were rarely actually shown outside their attacking ships.
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* InformedAttribute: The Magog are treated as the most terrifying race in the universe. When they actually appear onscreen, they... don't quite live up to the hype. Not only are they very obviously [[SpecialEffectsFailure people lumbering awkwardly in animal suits]], but they get shot down as easily as Storm Troopers when a swarm is attacking a small group of heroes, and have some cringe-worthy dialogue like [[YouNoTakeCandle "Leader... not want food?" food?"]] that seems more fitting for a show aimed at very young children than a sci-fi drama. It's probably not a conicodince that the Magog were replaced by other villains in later seasons, and when they did crop up, were rarely actually shown outside their attacking ships.
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Nightmare Fuel hasn't had an octane level for YEARS. Also fixing bad alphabetisation, sinkhole abuse, and bad indentation - and that is not how to spell "coincidence".
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Obviously the below-mentioned "hardcore fans" will not agree with this observation, but to those outside that circle, it is fairly obvious that many of the plot twists throughout the show were introduced to fix problematic characters or elements.
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** The Magog of Season 1, while considered HighOctaneNightmareFuel to some, [[SpecialEffectsFailure remind others more of]] [[{{Narm}} the Party Store Gorilla.]] It's probably not a coincodince that in later seasons the Magog were often not shown onscreen when attacking, with only their ships and characters' reactions to them being shown. Season 4 eventually found an excuse to change the species altogether by [[spoiler: bringing in an evolved version of the Magog from the future]] and completely changing Rev Bem's appearance for guest appearances.
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** The Magog of Season 1, while considered HighOctaneNightmareFuel to some, 1 [[SpecialEffectsFailure remind others more reminds some of]] [[{{Narm}} the Party Store Gorilla.]] It's probably not a coincodince coincidence that in later seasons the Magog were often not shown onscreen when attacking, with only their ships and characters' reactions to them being shown. Season 4 eventually found an excuse to change the species altogether by [[spoiler: bringing in an evolved version of the Magog from the future]] and completely changing Rev Bem's appearance for guest appearances.
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** If post-Ouroboros Trance is adult Trance, then does that make pre-Ouroboros underaged Trance?[[LessDisturbingInContext Much less squicky]] once it's established that she's [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld several billion years old]] [[GeniusLoci star]] using an [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith artificial humanoid body]] as a sockpuppet.
** If post-Ouroboros Trance is adult Trance, then does that make pre-Ouroboros underaged Trance?[[LessDisturbingInContext Much less squicky]] once it's established that she's [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld several billion years old]] [[GeniusLoci star]] using an [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith artificial humanoid body]] as a sockpuppet.
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**FridgeHorror: If post-Ouroboros Trance is adult Trance, then does that make pre-Ouroboros underaged Trance?[[LessDisturbingInContext Much less squicky]] once it's established that she's [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld several billion years old]] [[GeniusLoci star]] using an [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith artificial humanoid body]] as a sockpuppet.sockpuppet.
* GrowingTheBeard: The series' lighting, make-up, costuming, and writing improves after the first mid-season break (beginning with "Music of a Distant Drum" and "Harper 2.0"), and introduces the Magog/Spirit of the Abyss plot and a shift to a more ensemble-based set up. The cheese also shifts from embarrassing to self-aware and fun. Many fans believe this was undone shortly after "Ouroboros," while others feel that episode was when the show truly Grew the Beard.
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* GrowingTheBeard: The series' lighting, make-up, costuming, and writing improves after the first mid-season break (beginning with "Music of a Distant Drum" and "Harper 2.0"), and introduces the Magog/Spirit of the Abyss plot and a shift to a more ensemble-based set up. The cheese also shifts from embarrassing to self-aware and fun. Many fans believe this was undone shortly after "Ouroboros," while others feel that episode was when the show truly Grew the Beard.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Obviously the below-mentioned "hardcore fans" will not agree with this observation, but to those outside that circle, it is fairly obvious that many of the plot twists throughout the show were introduced to fix problematic characters or elements.
** Trance Gemini, while always lovable, is undeniably corny in her purple form; the new-Trance introduced in "Ouroboros" is significantly more complex and mature, and [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement in some viewer's eyes]], more fitting for the show.
** After three seasons of attempting to develop Tyr Anasazi while also looking for any excuse to bring Gaheris Rhade back with a flashback or alternate timeline, the writers finally threw up their hands and concluded that [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement Rhade might offer more for writers and viewers, having a more tangible personality and a somewhat more enthusiastic actor]], so they wrote Tyr out and brought in Rhade's clone descendant.
** The Magog of Season 1, while considered HighOctaneNightmareFuel to some, [[SpecialEffectsFailure remind others more of]] [[{{Narm}} the Party Store Gorilla.]] It's probably not a coincodince that in later seasons the Magog were often not shown onscreen when attacking, with only their ships and characters' reactions to them being shown. Season 4 eventually found an excuse to change the species altogether by [[spoiler: bringing in an evolved version of the Magog from the future]] and completely changing Rev Bem's appearance for guest appearances.
** Trance Gemini, while always lovable, is undeniably corny in her purple form; the new-Trance introduced in "Ouroboros" is significantly more complex and mature, and [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement in some viewer's eyes]], more fitting for the show.
** After three seasons of attempting to develop Tyr Anasazi while also looking for any excuse to bring Gaheris Rhade back with a flashback or alternate timeline, the writers finally threw up their hands and concluded that [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement Rhade might offer more for writers and viewers, having a more tangible personality and a somewhat more enthusiastic actor]], so they wrote Tyr out and brought in Rhade's clone descendant.
** The Magog of Season 1, while considered HighOctaneNightmareFuel to some, [[SpecialEffectsFailure remind others more of]] [[{{Narm}} the Party Store Gorilla.]] It's probably not a coincodince that in later seasons the Magog were often not shown onscreen when attacking, with only their ships and characters' reactions to them being shown. Season 4 eventually found an excuse to change the species altogether by [[spoiler: bringing in an evolved version of the Magog from the future]] and completely changing Rev Bem's appearance for guest appearances.
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* InformedAttribute: The Magog are treated as the most terrifying race in the universe. When they actually appear onscreen, they... don't quite live up to the hype. Not only are they very obviously [[SpecialEffectsFailure people lumbering awkwardly in animal suits]], but they get shot down as easily as Storm Troopers when a swarm is attacking a small group of heroes, and have some cringe-worthy dialogue like "Leader... not want food?" that seems more fitting for a show aimed at very young children than a sci-fi drama. It's probably not a conicodince that the Magog were replaced by other villains in later seasons, and when they did crop up, were rarely actually shown outside their attacking ships.
* GrowingTheBeard: The series' lighting, make-up, costuming, and writing improves after the first mid-season break (beginning with "Music of a Distant Drum" and "Harper 2.0"), and introduces the Magog/Spirit of the Abyss plot and a shift to a more ensemble-based set up. The cheese also shifts from embarrassing to self-aware and fun.This Many fans believe this was unfortunately undone shortly after "Ouroboros.""Ouroboros," while others feel that episode was when the show truly Grew the Beard.
* GrowingTheBeard: The series' lighting, make-up, costuming, and writing improves after the first mid-season break (beginning with "Music of a Distant Drum" and "Harper 2.0"), and introduces the Magog/Spirit of the Abyss plot and a shift to a more ensemble-based set up. The cheese also shifts from embarrassing to self-aware and fun.
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* {{Narm}}: Undeniably part of the entire show. Especially in the early seasons. For fans it's often NarmCharm.
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* SeasonalRot: Most hard core fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at "Ouroboros", the last episode made with Robert Hewitt Wolfe in charge (halfway through the second season). Before the show become all about Dylan and the seasonal plot arcs were dropped. After the series ended, Wolfe produced a short story called "Coda" that ignored everything after "Ouroboros" and told his plan.
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* SeasonalRot: Most hard core fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at "Ouroboros", the last episode made with Robert Hewitt Wolfe in charge (halfway through the second season). Before the show become all about Dylan and the seasonal plot arcs were dropped. After the series ended, Wolfe produced a short story called "Coda" that ignored everything after "Ouroboros" and told his plan.plan.
* SpecialEffectsFailure: The Magog are meant to be the most terrifying race in the universe, but when shown onscreen... suspension of disbelief may take more than a bit of effort.
* SpecialEffectsFailure: The Magog are meant to be the most terrifying race in the universe, but when shown onscreen... suspension of disbelief may take more than a bit of effort.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbBu_z2egB8 High Guard Battle March]].
* DamselScrappy: Midea, the only other Kodiak Nitzchean alive. While claiming she's SoBeautifulItsACurse and how all men want her, her arrogant, painfully melodramatic and insipidly vain preoccupation with physical beauty is downright insufferable, even as her personality is played straight as a perfection to be aspired to. A ''real'' case of CanonSue in this series, it comes as a relief when Becka shoots her... and irritating when she survives.
* DamselScrappy: Midea, the only other Kodiak Nitzchean alive. While claiming she's SoBeautifulItsACurse and how all men want her, her arrogant, painfully melodramatic and insipidly vain preoccupation with physical beauty is downright insufferable, even as her personality is played straight as a perfection to be aspired to. A ''real'' case of CanonSue in this series, it comes as a relief when Becka shoots her... and irritating when she survives.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbBu_z2egB8 High Guard Battle March]].
* DamselScrappy: Midea, the only other Kodiak Nitzchean alive. While claiming she's SoBeautifulItsACurse and how all men want her, her arrogant, painfully melodramatic and insipidly vain preoccupation with physical beauty is downright insufferable, even as her personality is played straight as a perfection to be aspired to. A ''real'' case ofCanonSue Canon Sue in this series, it comes as a relief when Becka shoots her... and irritating when she survives.
* DamselScrappy: Midea, the only other Kodiak Nitzchean alive. While claiming she's SoBeautifulItsACurse and how all men want her, her arrogant, painfully melodramatic and insipidly vain preoccupation with physical beauty is downright insufferable, even as her personality is played straight as a perfection to be aspired to. A ''real'' case of
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* SeasonalRot: Most hard core fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at "Ouroboros", the last episode made with Robert Hewitt Wolfe in charge (halfway through the second season). Before the show become [[{{MartyStu}} all about Dylan]] and the seasonal plot arcs were dropped. After the series ended, Wolfe produced a short story called "Coda" that ignored everything after "Ouroboros" and told his plan.
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* SeasonalRot: Most hard core fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at "Ouroboros", the last episode made with Robert Hewitt Wolfe in charge (halfway through the second season). Before the show become [[{{MartyStu}} all about Dylan]] Dylan and the seasonal plot arcs were dropped. After the series ended, Wolfe produced a short story called "Coda" that ignored everything after "Ouroboros" and told his plan.
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Hey Its That Guy cut by TRS decision. Ditto for Hey Its That Voice. You're not a 1-dimensional caricature if you're The Chessmaster or a Magnificent Bastard.
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* MartyStu: Sorbo/Hunt, more and more so as the series progressed and Sorbo gained more behind-the-scenes power.
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* SeasonalRot: Most hard core fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at "Ouroboros", the last episode made with Robert Hewitt Wolfe in charge (halfway through the second season). Before the show become [[{{MartyStu}} all about Dylan]] and the seasonal plot arcs were dropped. After the series ended, Wolfe produced a short story called "Coda" that ignored everything after "Ouroboros" and told his plan.
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* SeasonalRot: Most hard core fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at "Ouroboros", the last episode made with Robert Hewitt Wolfe in charge.charge (halfway through the second season). Before the show become [[{{MartyStu}} all about Dylan]] and the seasonal plot arcs were dropped. After the series ended, Wolfe produced a short story called "Coda" that ignored everything after "Ouroboros" and told his plan.
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* NightmareFuel: The Magog. Dear ''God'', the Magog. They manage to stop the Borg and the Daleks as a terrifying villain race.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbBu_z2egB8 High Guard Battle March]].
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* FridgeBrilliance: Andromeda is a character from Greek mythology renowned for her beauty; which is probably where the producers got the idea of having the personification of the ship be a hologram of a beautiful woman.
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** If post-Ouroboros Trance is adult Trance, then does that make pre-Ouroboros underaged Trance? [[LessDisturbingInContext Much less squicky]] once it's established that she's [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld several billion years old]] [[GeniusLoci star]] using an [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith artificial humanoid body]] as a sockpuppet.
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** If post-Ouroboros Trance is adult Trance, then does that make pre-Ouroboros underaged Trance? [[LessDisturbingInContext Trance?[[LessDisturbingInContext Much less squicky]] once it's established that she's [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld several billion years old]] [[GeniusLoci star]] using an [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith artificial humanoid body]] as a sockpuppet.sockpuppet.
* GrowingTheBeard: The series' lighting, make-up, costuming, and writing improves after the first mid-season break (beginning with "Music of a Distant Drum" and "Harper 2.0"), and introduces the Magog/Spirit of the Abyss plot and a shift to a more ensemble-based set up. The cheese also shifts from embarrassing to self-aware and fun. This was unfortunately undone shortly after "Ouroboros."
* GrowingTheBeard: The series' lighting, make-up, costuming, and writing improves after the first mid-season break (beginning with "Music of a Distant Drum" and "Harper 2.0"), and introduces the Magog/Spirit of the Abyss plot and a shift to a more ensemble-based set up. The cheese also shifts from embarrassing to self-aware and fun. This was unfortunately undone shortly after "Ouroboros."
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* RuinedForever: a lot of fans won't even look at the episodes beyond when Robert Wolfe quit and their outrage tends to skew their viewpoint of the show insanely. The fact that people who never knew about the behind-the-scenes drama noticed, at most, the increase in Kevin Sorbo's screentime and a variation in writing quality of individual episodes may say something about their bias. The fact that the increase in episodes devoted to the plot arcs actually ''increased'' rather than decreased is a rather odd fact that no one usually notices. Oh, except that horrible introductory speech before the theme music and credits that started happening since the beginning of season 2, and taking out the awesome theme music from season 1. ''That'' was pretty damn noticeable.
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* DamselScrappy: Midea, the only other Kodiak Nitzchean alive. While claiming she's SoBeautifulItsACurse and how all men want her, her arrogant, painfully melodramatic and insipidly vain preoccupation with physical beauty is downright insufferable, even as her personality is played straight as a perfection to be aspired to. A ''real'' case of CanonMarySue in this series, it comes as a relief when Becka shoots her... and irritating when she survives.
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* DamselScrappy: Midea, the only other Kodiak Nitzchean alive. While claiming she's SoBeautifulItsACurse and how all men want her, her arrogant, painfully melodramatic and insipidly vain preoccupation with physical beauty is downright insufferable, even as her personality is played straight as a perfection to be aspired to. A ''real'' case of CanonMarySue CanonSue in this series, it comes as a relief when Becka shoots her... and irritating when she survives.
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* DamselScrappy: Midea, the only other Kodiak Nitzchean alive. While claiming she's SoBeautifulItsACurse and how all men want her, her arrogant, painfully melodramatic and insipidly vain preoccupation with physical beauty is downright insufferable, even as her personality is played straight as a perfection to be aspired to. A ''real'' case of CanonMarySue in this series, it comes as a relief when Becka shoots her... and irritating when she survives.
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* RuinedForever: a lot of fans won't even look at the episodes beyond when Robert Wolfe quit and their outrage tends to skew their viewpoint of the show insanely. The fact that people who never knew about the behind-the-scenes drama noticed, at most, the increase in Kevin Sorbo's screentime and a variation in writing quality of individual episodes may say something about their bias. The fact that the increase in episodes devoted to the plot arcs actually ''increased'' rather than decreased is a rather odd fact that no one usually notices.
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* RuinedForever: a lot of fans won't even look at the episodes beyond when Robert Wolfe quit and their outrage tends to skew their viewpoint of the show insanely. The fact that people who never knew about the behind-the-scenes drama noticed, at most, the increase in Kevin Sorbo's screentime and a variation in writing quality of individual episodes may say something about their bias. The fact that the increase in episodes devoted to the plot arcs actually ''increased'' rather than decreased is a rather odd fact that no one usually notices. Oh, except that horrible introductory speech before the theme music and credits that started happening since the beginning of season 2, and taking out the awesome theme music from season 1. ''That'' was pretty damn noticeable.
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* RuinedForever: a lot of fans won't even look at the episodes beyond when Robert Wolfe quit and their outrage tends to skew their viewpoint of the show insanely. The fact that people who never knew about the behind-the-scenes drama noticed, at most, the increase in Kevin Sorbo's screentime and a variation in writing quality of individual episodes - a lot of which Wolfe didn't write anyway - may say something about their bias. The fact that the increase in episodes devoted to the plot arcs actually ''increased'' rather than decreased is a rather odd fact that no one usually notices.
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* RuinedForever: a lot of fans won't even look at the episodes beyond when Robert Wolfe quit and their outrage tends to skew their viewpoint of the show insanely. The fact that people who never knew about the behind-the-scenes drama noticed, at most, the increase in Kevin Sorbo's screentime and a variation in writing quality of individual episodes - a lot of which Wolfe didn't write anyway - episodes may say something about their bias. The fact that the increase in episodes devoted to the plot arcs actually ''increased'' rather than decreased is a rather odd fact that no one usually notices.
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* SeasonalRot: Most hard core fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at "Ouroboros", the last episode made with Robert Hewitt Wolfe in charge. Before the show become [[{{MartyStu}} all about Dylan]] and the seasonal plot arcs were dropped. After the series ended, Wolfe produced a short story called "Coda" that ignored everything after "Ouroboros" and told his plan.
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* SeasonalRot: Most hard core fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at "Ouroboros", the last episode made with Robert Hewitt Wolfe in charge. Before the show become [[{{MartyStu}} all about Dylan]] and the seasonal plot arcs were dropped. After the series ended, Wolfe produced a short story called "Coda" that ignored everything after "Ouroboros" and told his plan.plan.
* RuinedForever: a lot of fans won't even look at the episodes beyond when Robert Wolfe quit and their outrage tends to skew their viewpoint of the show insanely. The fact that people who never knew about the behind-the-scenes drama noticed, at most, the increase in Kevin Sorbo's screentime and a variation in writing quality of individual episodes - a lot of which Wolfe didn't write anyway - may say something about their bias. The fact that the increase in episodes devoted to the plot arcs actually ''increased'' rather than decreased is a rather odd fact that no one usually notices.
* RuinedForever: a lot of fans won't even look at the episodes beyond when Robert Wolfe quit and their outrage tends to skew their viewpoint of the show insanely. The fact that people who never knew about the behind-the-scenes drama noticed, at most, the increase in Kevin Sorbo's screentime and a variation in writing quality of individual episodes - a lot of which Wolfe didn't write anyway - may say something about their bias. The fact that the increase in episodes devoted to the plot arcs actually ''increased'' rather than decreased is a rather odd fact that no one usually notices.
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** If post-Ouroboros Trance is adult Trance, then does that make pre-Ouroboros underaged Trance? [[LessDisturbingInContext Much less squicky]] once it's established that she's [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld several billion years old]] [[GeniusLoci star]] using an [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith artificial humanoid body]] as a sockpuppet.
** If post-Ouroboros Trance is adult Trance, then does that make pre-Ouroboros underaged Trance? [[LessDisturbingInContext Much less squicky]] once it's established that she's [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld several billion years old]] [[GeniusLoci star]] using an [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith artificial humanoid body]] as a sockpuppet.
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* SeasonalRot: Most hard core fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at "Ouroboros", the last episode made with Robert Hewitt Wolfe in charge. Before the show become [[{{MartyStu}} all about Dylan]] and the seasonal plot arcs were dropped. After the series ended, Wolfe produced a short story called "Coda" that ignored everything after "Ouroboros" and told what his plan was.plan.
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* SeasonalRot: Most hard core fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at "Ouroboros", the last episode made with Robert Hewitt Wolfe in charge. Before the show become [[{{MartyStu}} all about Dylan]] and the seasonal plot arcs were dropped. After the series ended, Wolfe produced a short story called "Coda" that told what his plan was.
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* SeasonalRot: Most hard core fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at series one. Before the show become [[{{MartyStu}} all about Dylan.]] The seasonal plot arcs where dropped.
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* LargeHam: Tyr, and, to a lesser extent, Dylan and Harper.
** As for guest characters, there's Bartolome Naz.
** As for guest characters, there's Bartolome Naz.
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* SeasonalRot: Most hard core fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at series one. Before the show become [[{{MartyStu}} all about Dylan.]] The seasonal plot arcs where dropped and [[{{MagnificentBastard}} Tyr]] started to become [[{{CharacterDerailment}} much less three dimensional and less complex that the actor]] quit the show in disgust. [[{{Headbanger}} That didn't stop the show writers]] from bringing him back to get shot in the back by his replacement.
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* SeasonalRot: Most hard core fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at series one. Before the show become [[{{MartyStu}} all about Dylan.]] The seasonal plot arcs where dropped and [[{{MagnificentBastard}} Tyr]] started to become [[{{CharacterDerailment}} much less three dimensional and less complex that the actor]] quit the show in disgust. [[{{Headbanger}} That didn't stop the show writers]] from bringing him back to get shot in the back by his replacement.dropped.
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* SeasonalRot: Most hard core fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at series one. Before the show become [[{{MartyStu}} all about Dylan.]] The seasonal plot arcs where dropped and [[{{MagnificentBastard}} Tyr]] started to become [[{{ChracterDerailment}} much less three dimensional and less complex that the actor]] quit the show in disgust. [[{{Headbanger}} That didn't stop the show writers]] from bringing him back to get shot in the back by his replacement.
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* SeasonalRot: Most hard core fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at series one. Before the show become [[{{MartyStu}} all about Dylan.]] The seasonal plot arcs where dropped and [[{{MagnificentBastard}} Tyr]] started to become [[{{ChracterDerailment}} [[{{CharacterDerailment}} much less three dimensional and less complex that the actor]] quit the show in disgust. [[{{Headbanger}} That didn't stop the show writers]] from bringing him back to get shot in the back by his replacement.
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* SeasonalRot: Most hard core fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at series one. Before the show become [[{{MartyStu}} all about Dylan.]] The seasonal plot arcs where dropped and [[{{MagnificentBastard}} Tyr]] started to become [[{{Chracter Derailment}} much less three dimensional and less complex that the actor]] quit the show in disgust. [[{{Headbanger}} That didn't stop the show writers]] from bringing him back to get shot in the back by his replacement.
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* SeasonalRot: Most hard core fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at series one. Before the show become [[{{MartyStu}} all about Dylan.]] The seasonal plot arcs where dropped and [[{{MagnificentBastard}} Tyr]] started to become [[{{Chracter Derailment}} [[{{ChracterDerailment}} much less three dimensional and less complex that the actor]] quit the show in disgust. [[{{Headbanger}} That didn't stop the show writers]] from bringing him back to get shot in the back by his replacement.
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* MartyStu: Sorbo/Hunt, more and more so as the series progressed and Sorbo gained more behind-the-scenes power.
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* MartyStu: Sorbo/Hunt, more and more so as the series progressed and Sorbo gained more behind-the-scenes power.power.
* SeasonalRot: Most hard core fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at series one. Before the show become [[{{MartyStu}} all about Dylan.]] The seasonal plot arcs where dropped and [[{{MagnificentBastard}} Tyr]] started to become [[{{Chracter Derailment}} much less three dimensional and less complex that the actor]] quit the show in disgust. [[{{Headbanger}} That didn't stop the show writers]] from bringing him back to get shot in the back by his replacement.
* SeasonalRot: Most hard core fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at series one. Before the show become [[{{MartyStu}} all about Dylan.]] The seasonal plot arcs where dropped and [[{{MagnificentBastard}} Tyr]] started to become [[{{Chracter Derailment}} much less three dimensional and less complex that the actor]] quit the show in disgust. [[{{Headbanger}} That didn't stop the show writers]] from bringing him back to get shot in the back by his replacement.
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Dylan gets called out by this several times, especially be Nietzscheans. He is almost never bluffing, up to and including calling down nuclear-level weapons on his own position.
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* CharacterDerailment (Tied in with the Marty Stu listed below; Tyr's metaphorical dismemberment was particularly brutal.)
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* MartyStu (Sorbo/Hunt, MartyStu: Sorbo/Hunt, more and more so as the series progressed and Sorbo gained more behind-the-scenes power.)