History YMMV / AnAmericanTail

25th Sep '17 9:12:20 PM KamonTheSkunk
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** Opinions are nearly evenly divided on whether ''Fievel Goes West'', with its DenserAndWackier tone, was an EvenBetterSequel or [[{{Sequelitis}} an embarrassment to all the first movie stood for]]. Or [[SoOkayItsAverage something in between]]. The fact that, unlike other Bluth films, ''An American Tail'' ended with a SequelHook and was actually intended to have a sequel did help swing opinions in its favor when it was announced.

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** Opinions are nearly evenly divided on whether ''Fievel Goes West'', with its DenserAndWackier tone, was an EvenBetterSequel or [[{{Sequelitis}} an embarrassment to all the first movie stood for]]. Or [[SoOkayItsAverage something in between]]. The fact that, unlike other Bluth films, ''An American Tail'' ended with a SequelHook and was actually intended to have a sequel did help swing opinions in its favor when it was announced.
25th Sep '17 6:08:31 AM KamonTheSkunk
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21st Sep '17 10:15:25 AM Sakubara
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** It's also not hard to see Cat R. Waul as one too considering the creepy undertones between him and Tanya (a [[VagueAge supposedly]] teenage girl even if you factor in ValuesDissonance).
16th Sep '17 10:07:38 AM nombretomado
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The ''Fievel Goes West'' game for the SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem wasn't too bad of a side-scroller, but it wasn't too impressive either. In the early 2000's Fievel even got a game on the GameBoyAdvance, ''An American Tail: Fievel's Gold Rush'', which seemed to take place after ''Fievel Goes West'' and played a lot like the Super Nintendo game (odd given that Universal had spent so much effort trying to convince everyone that the movie never happened). This trope is played far more straight with the random ''An American Tail'' game that came out for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 [[NoExportForYou in Europe]] (which actually plays disturbingly a lot like VideoGame/{{Superman 64}}). The PC game that follows the first two films is another major offender, being targeted towards younger audiences but having insanely hard puzzles that would stump the target audience in addition to featuring 2D sprites being meshed with poorly rendered stills from the movies.

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The ''Fievel Goes West'' game for the SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem UsefulNotes/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem wasn't too bad of a side-scroller, but it wasn't too impressive either. In the early 2000's Fievel even got a game on the GameBoyAdvance, UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance, ''An American Tail: Fievel's Gold Rush'', which seemed to take place after ''Fievel Goes West'' and played a lot like the Super Nintendo game (odd given that Universal had spent so much effort trying to convince everyone that the movie never happened). This trope is played far more straight with the random ''An American Tail'' game that came out for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 [[NoExportForYou in Europe]] (which actually plays disturbingly a lot like VideoGame/{{Superman 64}}). The PC game that follows the first two films is another major offender, being targeted towards younger audiences but having insanely hard puzzles that would stump the target audience in addition to featuring 2D sprites being meshed with poorly rendered stills from the movies.
13th Sep '17 5:59:49 PM KamonTheSkunk
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** Opinions are nearly evenly divided on whether ''Fievel Goes West'', with its DenserAndWackier tone, was an EvenBetterSequel or [[{{Sequelitis}} an embarrassment to all the first movie stood for]]. Or [[SoOkayItsAverage something in between]]. The fact that, unlike other Bluth films, ''An American Tail'' ended with a SequelHook and was actually intended to have a sequel did help swing opinions in it's favor when it was announced.

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** Opinions are nearly evenly divided on whether ''Fievel Goes West'', with its DenserAndWackier tone, was an EvenBetterSequel or [[{{Sequelitis}} an embarrassment to all the first movie stood for]]. Or [[SoOkayItsAverage something in between]]. The fact that, unlike other Bluth films, ''An American Tail'' ended with a SequelHook and was actually intended to have a sequel did help swing opinions in it's its favor when it was announced.



*** That said, he did not have a lot of creative input on the first film, most of which went to Spielberg and writer David Kirschner, who ''did'' return for the sequel. In the grand scheme of things, Bluth's role was expendable.

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*** That being said, he did not have a lot of creative input on the first film, most of which went to Spielberg and writer David Kirschner, who ''did'' return for the sequel. In the grand scheme of things, Bluth's role was expendable.



* FanonDiscontinuity: For a lot of fans (especially if they really liked ''Fievel Goes West'', due to the third film proclaiming it to be AllJustADream) insist these movies never happened. On the other hand, the third film is remembered by fans of Creator/TMSEntertainment at least.
** Meanwhile, the above {{Fanon}} is usually followed with the understanding that the creators of the third movie ''probably'' wanted to RetCon ''Fievel Goes West''. It's just more fun for fans to disregard that and try to make sense of the jumbled continuity themselves.
* MagnificentBastard: Toplofty and Mr. Grasping

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* FanonDiscontinuity: For a lot of fans (especially if they really liked ''Fievel Goes West'', due to the third film proclaiming it to be AllJustADream) insist these movies never happened. On the other hand, the third film is remembered by fans of Creator/TMSEntertainment at least.
**
least. Meanwhile, the above {{Fanon}} is usually followed with the understanding that the creators of the third movie ''probably'' wanted to RetCon ''Fievel Goes West''. It's just more fun for fans to disregard that and try to make sense of the jumbled continuity themselves.
* MagnificentBastard: Toplofty and Mr. Grasping
themselves.
10th Sep '17 8:04:43 AM Surenity
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** Despite having been a popular song, you get the feeling the creators of the sequel ''kinda'' hate it, and maybe even hate the first film in general. It's treated as this trope despite neither Tanya nor the song having been hated by most of the audience. To put it in a modern perspective, picture something like this happening to someone singing "Let it Go" in the sequel to Disney/{{Frozen}}.

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** Despite having been a popular song, you get the feeling the creators of the sequel ''kinda'' hate it, and maybe even hate the first film in general. It's treated as this trope despite neither Tanya nor the song having been hated by most of the audience. audience; only detractors who hated how popular the song got would be amused by the scene. To put it in a modern perspective, picture something like this happening to someone singing "Let it Go" in the sequel to Disney/{{Frozen}}.''Disney/{{Frozen}}''.
9th Sep '17 7:36:30 PM yakko
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** The song ''Who will'' in ''Night Monster''. Probably the most vomiting song in the whole series.

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** The song ''Who will'' in ''Night Monster''. Probably Monster'', which is perhaps the most vomiting sickeningly saccarine song in the whole entire series.
31st Aug '17 5:48:41 PM Surenity
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** Despite having been a popular song, you get the feeling the creators of the sequel ''kinda'' hate it, and maybe even hate the first film in general. It's treated as this trope despite neither Tanya nor the song having been hated by most of the audience.
* UncannyValley: The stone mountain in Tiger's shape that causes the mouse tribe to think he's their god. At one point a shadow comes over it and makes the stone looks like it has a face, which looks far more nightmarish than it has any right to be.


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** Despite having been a popular song, you get the feeling the creators of the sequel ''kinda'' hate it, and maybe even hate the first film in general. It's treated as this trope despite neither Tanya nor the song having been hated by most of the audience.
audience. To put it in a modern perspective, picture something like this happening to someone singing "Let it Go" in the sequel to Disney/{{Frozen}}.
* UncannyValley: The stone mountain in Tiger's shape that causes leads the mouse tribe to think he's their god. At one point a shadow comes over it and makes the stone looks like it has a face, which looks far more nightmarish than it has any right to be.

31st Aug '17 3:28:46 PM Hedging
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21st May '17 11:56:00 AM Surenity
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** Meanwhile, the above {{Fanon}} is usually followed with the understanding that the creators of the third movie ''probably'' wanted to RetCon ''Fievel Goes West''. It's just more fun to disregard that and try to make sense of the jumbled continuity themselves.

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** Meanwhile, the above {{Fanon}} is usually followed with the understanding that the creators of the third movie ''probably'' wanted to RetCon ''Fievel Goes West''. It's just more fun for fans to disregard that and try to make sense of the jumbled continuity themselves.
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