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* {{Shipping}}: There's some fans of the series who ship Emily and Prince Trellis ("[[PortmanteauCoupleName Tremily]]"). It helps that, although Trellis looks much older, WordOfGod has him being close to her own age at 14 (and later 16.)



* QuestionableCasting: [[RaceLift Willow and Jaden Smith]] were announced to play Emily and Navin for a film adaptation of the books, which appears to have halted in development.

* {{Shipping}}: There's some fans of the series who ship Emily and Prince Trellis ("[[PortmanteauCoupleName Tremily]]"). It helps that, although Trellis looks much older, WordOfGod has him being close to her own age at 14 (and later 16.)



* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: The age demographic is 9-12 and Kazu intended it to be enjoyed by all age groups and at its core a children's story meant to be understood easily with the usual themes of adolescence. It also has the onscreen death of a parent, child abuse, war, opression, tyranny, racism, child soldiers, attempted assassination on children, attempted and successful murders, emotional and political manipulation, and genocide.
* WhatTheHellCastingAgency: [[RaceLift Willow and Jaden Smith]] were announced to play Emily and Navin for a film adaptation of the books, which appears to have halted in development.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: The age demographic is 9-12 and Kazu intended it to be enjoyed by all age groups and at its core a children's story meant to be understood easily with the usual themes of adolescence. It also has the onscreen death of a parent, child abuse, war, opression, tyranny, racism, child soldiers, attempted assassination on children, attempted and successful murders, emotional and political manipulation, and genocide.
* WhatTheHellCastingAgency: [[RaceLift Willow and Jaden Smith]] were announced to play Emily and Navin for a film adaptation of the books, which appears to have halted in development.
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* IdiotBall: Vigo, for a senior stonekeeper, and Emily, who has a pretty solid successful streak so far, holds this, compiling ''all''three stonekeepers in one airship with NO weapons meaning if said airship is destroyed because it can't defend itself fron hostiles, then whatever powerful allies the Cielan Army have are dead. [[LampshadedTrope Lampshaded]] by Max.

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Vigo, for a senior stonekeeper, and Emily, who has a pretty solid successful streak so far, holds this, compiling ''all''three stonekeepers in one airship with NO weapons meaning if said airship is destroyed because it can't defend itself fron hostiles, then whatever powerful allies the Cielan Army have are dead. [[LampshadedTrope Lampshaded]] by Max.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: The age demographic is 9-12 and Kazu intended it to be enjoyed by all age groups and at its core a children's story meant to be understood easily with the usual themes of adolescence. It also has [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking the onscreen death of a parent, child abuse, war, opression, tyranny, racism, child soldiers, attempted assassination on children, attempted and successful murders, emotional and political manipulation, and genocide.]]

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: The age demographic is 9-12 and Kazu intended it to be enjoyed by all age groups and at its core a children's story meant to be understood easily with the usual themes of adolescence. It also has [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking the onscreen death of a parent, child abuse, war, opression, tyranny, racism, child soldiers, attempted assassination on children, attempted and successful murders, emotional and political manipulation, and genocide.]]
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Uncanny Valley is IUEO now and the subjective version has been split; cleaning up misuse and ZCE in the process


* UncannyValley: The physical form of the Voice in Emily's dreams. He's not that creepy usually, but when he smiles, he does so with a full mouth of teeth. It's the most defined part of his face; the rest of him is just a shadowy spirit figure.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Emily. On one hand, you get people finding her inspiring because of her strength and the fact that she subverts many female protagonist tropes. On the other hand, some feel that she hasn't received nearly enough character development outside of subverting those tropes and is flat as a result, as her personality as the [[TheLoner stoic loner]] has been mostly static since the first book.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Emily. On one hand, you get people finding her inspiring because of her strength and the fact that she subverts many female protagonist tropes. On the other hand, some feel that she hasn't received nearly enough character development outside of subverting those tropes and is flat as a result, as her personality as the [[TheLoner [[IneffectualLoner stoic loner]] has been mostly static since the first book.



* FunnyAneurysmMoment: That Trellis getting a well-deserved punch in the face in book 2 is less cathartic and more sickening when you finally learn his backstory.
* HarsherInHindsight: The car accident that killed David is made a lot worse when it's revealed in Book 7 that [[spoiler:the whole incident was caused by someone ''trying to commit suicide''.]]

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: That Trellis getting a well-deserved punch in the face in book 2 is less cathartic and more sickening when you finally learn his backstory.
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The car accident that killed David is made a lot worse when it's revealed in Book 7 that [[spoiler:the whole incident was caused by someone ''trying to commit suicide''.]]]]
** Trellis getting a well-deserved punch in the face in book 2 is less cathartic and more sickening when you finally learn his backstory.
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* DesignatedHero: Some feel Emily and Navin are these:

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* DesignatedHero: Some feel Emily and Navin are these:these, with some:



** Ever since the Resistance claim that Navin is a commander and a leader, he doesn't possess leadership qualities himself, and always defer to someone else when there's leading needed to be done. Although he's a NiceGuy, he rarely, if ever even, takes initiative in a situation. Most scenes with him in it is less of a character-driven plot but more of him and whoever is with him at the time reacting to a situation. He also has little development at all because the lack of a concrete personal goal or character flaws.

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** Ever since the Resistance claim that Navin is a commander and a leader, he doesn't possess leadership qualities himself, and always defer to someone else when there's leading needed to be done. Although he's a NiceGuy, he rarely, if ever even, takes initiative in a situation. Most scenes with him in it is less of a character-driven plot but more of him and whoever is with him at the time reacting to a situation. He also has little development at all because the lack of a concrete personal goal or character flaws.
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* DesignatedHero: some feel Emily and Navin are these:

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* DesignatedHero: some Some feel Emily and Navin are these:



* FandomRivalry: a mild one with fans of ComicBook/{{Bone}}
* FoeYayShipping: there was a considerable amount of fans who ship Max and Emily, disregarding the fact that Max is [[OlderThanTheyLook an adult who appears youthful due to the Voice]] and Emily is very much a minor.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment: that Trellis getting a well-deserved punch in the face in book 2 is less cathartic and more sickening when you finally learn his backstory.

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* FandomRivalry: a A mild one with fans of ComicBook/{{Bone}}
* FoeYayShipping: there There was a considerable amount of fans who ship Max and Emily, disregarding the fact that Max is [[OlderThanTheyLook an adult who appears youthful due to the Voice]] and Emily is very much a minor.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment: that That Trellis getting a well-deserved punch in the face in book 2 is less cathartic and more sickening when you finally learn his backstory.



* HesJustHiding: most fans towards Gabilan, as it's never explicitly shown that he died.

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* HesJustHiding: most Most fans towards Gabilan, as it's never explicitly shown that he died.



* JustHereForGodzilla: although many fans are disappointed by Supernova, many has desire to finish the series for coming this far, or at least know what happens to fan favorites.

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* JustHereForGodzilla: although Although many fans are disappointed by Supernova, many has desire to finish the series for coming this far, or at least know what happens to fan favorites.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: the age demographic is 9-12 and Kazu intended it to be enjoyed by all age groups and at its core a children's story meant to be understood easily with the usual themes of adolescence. It also has [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking the onscreen death of a parent, child abuse, war, opression, tyranny, racism, child soldiers, attempted assassination on children, attempted and successful murders, emotional and political manipulation, and genocide.]]

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: the The age demographic is 9-12 and Kazu intended it to be enjoyed by all age groups and at its core a children's story meant to be understood easily with the usual themes of adolescence. It also has [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking the onscreen death of a parent, child abuse, war, opression, tyranny, racism, child soldiers, attempted assassination on children, attempted and successful murders, emotional and political manipulation, and genocide.]]

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* AssPull: How does Emily [[spoiler:escape the Void]] in "Supernova"? [[spoiler:[[ShockingSwerve Her future self and her son]] [[DeusExMachina show up out of nowhere]] to help her escape to an exit portal, despite the fact that the previous books have established multiple times that you can only escape the Void by dispersing yourself into light and that the Void cannot actually be used for time travel. Trellis, who she had told to find her as she was about to be taken into the Void, [[AbortedArc also has little to no involvement in her escape.]]]]

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* AssPull: How does Emily [[spoiler:escape the Void]] in "Supernova"? [[spoiler:[[ShockingSwerve [[spoiler: Her future self and her son]] son [[DeusExMachina show up out of nowhere]] to help her escape to an exit portal, despite the fact that the previous books have established multiple times that you can only escape the Void by dispersing yourself into light and that the Void cannot actually be used for time travel. Trellis, who she had told to find her as she was about to be taken into the Void, [[AbortedArc also has little to no involvement in her escape.]]]]

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* IdiotBall: Vigo, for a senior stonekeeper, and Emily, who has a pretty solid successful streak so far, holds this, compiling ''all''three stonekeepers in one airship with NO weapons meaning if said airship is destroyed because it can't defend itself fron hostiles, then whatever powerful allies the Cielan Army have are dead. [[LampshadedTrope Lampshaded]] by Max.
** Also, when Vigo attracts the attention of Max in order to save Navin and Aly, Emily and Vigo both attacks him at the same time, with ''utter''disregard to the potential damage it will cause to the airship, who are holding Enzo, Rico, and Luger overboard, and failed to consider the possibility of ALL of them falling to their deaths. It was lucky that Trellis managed to think up of something to bother saving them too and Enzo has the foresight to install another engine. For two characters who established themselves as the Guardian Council, this is breathtakingly stupid.
* {{Shipping}}: There's some fans of the series who ship Emily and Prince Trellis ("[[PortmanteauCoupleName Tremily]]"). It helps that, although Trellis looks much older, WordOfGod has him being close to her own age at 14 (and later 16.)



* IdiotBall: Vigo, for a senior stonekeeper, and Emily, who has a pretty solid successful streak so far, holds this, compiling ''all''three stonekeepers in one airship with NO weapons meaning if said airship is destroyed because it can't defend itself fron hostiles, then whatever powerful allies the Cielan Army have are dead. [[LampshadedTrope Lampshaded]] by Max.
** Also, when Vigo attracts the attention of Max in order to save Navin and Aly, Emily and Vigo both attacks him at the same time, with ''utter''disregard to the potential damage it will cause to the airship, who are holding Enzo, Rico, and Luger overboard, and failed to consider the possibility of ALL of them falling to their deaths. It was lucky that Trellis managed to think up of something to bother saving them too and Enzo has the foresight to install another engine. For two characters who established themselves as the Guardian Council, this is breathtakingly stupid.
* {{Shipping}}: There's some fans of the series who ship Emily and Prince Trellis ("[[PortmanteauCoupleName Tremily]]"). It helps that, although Trellis looks much older, WordOfGod has him being close to her own age at 14 (and later 16.)
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* {{Adorkable}}: When Trellis isn't brooding or in the midst of a serious situation, his underdeveloped social skills make him dorky and cute. Book 6, for example, has him smugly declaring that Luger will lose at Othello, only for the latter to turn the tides with one move, to his disbelief. Other examples are his genuine confusion about Earth customs as introduced to him by Emily. Another is when he awkwardly handles fans gushing over him, even good-naturedly indulging a kid for autographs despite his discomfort.

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this isn't YMMV, and it looks like just an excuse to complain about the novel moreso than anything else. | don't know what it has to do with the trope that Emily's villains don't have a personal connection to her | Viewer Gender Confusion needs a specific example, this sounds like generalizing


* CoversAlwaysLie: ''Escape from Lucien'', BIG TIME. For one, you'd think you're gonna get a Colossus mech fight with Navin, Alyson, and Cogsley piloting, the Guardian Council being badass, and an omnious Elf hovering over them, ambiguous if they're a foe or not. What you'd get: an absolutely downgraded mech fight with WeaponsThatSuck and no Colossus because they're destroyed before ANY of them can be used, with Cogsley having little to NO involvement at all and is instead replaced by General Pil. The Guardian Council immediately got their asses handed to them by Max and the reason why Max was even eliminated was by his own terms and in the end couldn't even [[InvincibleVillain beat him]], and the Elf on the cover?? That's just [[NiceGirl Riva]], and she's firmly on the side of good. Yeah, it's lying alright.



** For one, Emily rarely does anything heroic and the reasoning behind her actions sounds less because she wants to do good but more like she simply has no other choice. It also doesn't help that she's rarely nice and warm to other, especially ruthless towards her enemies and is not above using force and violence against her allies, proven they stand in her way. She also doesn't exhibit any sort of leadership qualities, and can be quite arrogant, and although she does care for other people and believes in the value of teamwork, she still steadfastedly works alone. There's also the fact that all villains are obsessively focused on her because she's powerful, not because of personal connections or whatsoever. If anything, all villains presented so far can be potential personal villains to ''Trellis''.

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** For one, Emily rarely does anything heroic and the reasoning behind her actions sounds less because she wants to do good but more like she simply has no other choice. It also doesn't help that she's rarely nice and warm to other, especially ruthless towards her enemies and is not above using force and violence against her allies, proven they stand in her way. She also doesn't exhibit any sort of leadership qualities, and can be quite arrogant, and although she does care for other people and believes in the value of teamwork, she still steadfastedly works alone. There's also the fact that all villains are obsessively focused on her because she's powerful, not because of personal connections or whatsoever. If anything, all villains presented so far can be potential personal villains to ''Trellis''.



* ViewerGenderConfusion: Kazu has the tendency to recycle faces, and there's little to no indication of difference from male or female characters unless their pronouns are referred or if their chests are curved.
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* FandomRivalry: a mild one with fans of [[ComicBook/Bone]]

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* AccidentalAesop: villains in Amulet tend to believe in [[TheEndJustifiesTheMeans sacrifices needed to be made for the greater good]], which is not untrue in itself but the belief is twisted as such to the degree that being bad means being ruthless in sacrificing things and becoming agressive when it comes to achieving goals — [[spoiler:which happens to Emily, especially as the series continue and her determined nature grows, hence her fall in ''Firelight'']]. Thus meaning a person must be restrained when it comes to certain situations and capable of compromise when needed, just not of morals.

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* AccidentalAesop: villains Villains in Amulet tend to believe in [[TheEndJustifiesTheMeans sacrifices needed to be made for the greater good]], which is not untrue in itself but the belief is twisted as such to the degree that being bad means being ruthless in sacrificing things and becoming agressive aggressive when it comes to achieving goals — [[spoiler:which happens to Emily, especially as the series continue and her determined nature grows, hence her fall in ''Firelight'']]. Thus meaning a person must be restrained when it comes to certain situations and capable of compromise when needed, just not of morals.
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** Ever since the Resistance claim that Navin is a commander and a leader, he doesn't possess leadership qualities himself, and always defer to someone else when there's leading needed to be done. Although he's a NiceGuy, he rarely, if ever even, takes initiative in a situation. Most scenes with him in it is less of a character-driven plot but more of him and whoever is with him at the time reacting to a situation. He also has little development at all because the lack of a concrete goal or flaws.

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** Ever since the Resistance claim that Navin is a commander and a leader, he doesn't possess leadership qualities himself, and always defer to someone else when there's leading needed to be done. Although he's a NiceGuy, he rarely, if ever even, takes initiative in a situation. Most scenes with him in it is less of a character-driven plot but more of him and whoever is with him at the time reacting to a situation. He also has little development at all because the lack of a concrete personal goal or character flaws.
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* DesignatedHero: some feel Emily and Navin are these:
** For one, Emily rarely does anything heroic and the reasoning behind her actions sounds less because she wants to do good but more like she simply has no other choice. It also doesn't help that she's rarely nice and warm to other, especially ruthless towards her enemies and is not above using force and violence against her allies, proven they stand in her way. She also doesn't exhibit any sort of leadership qualities, and can be quite arrogant, and although she does care for other people and believes in the value of teamwork, she still steadfastedly works alone. There's also the fact that all villains are obsessively focused on her because she's powerful, not because of personal connections or whatsoever. If anything, all villains presented so far can be potential personal villains to ''Trellis''.
** Ever since the Resistance claim that Navin is a commander and a leader, he doesn't possess leadership qualities himself, and always defer to someone else when there's leading needed to be done. Although he's a NiceGuy, he rarely, if ever even, takes initiative in a situation. Most scenes with him in it is less of a character-driven plot but more of him and whoever is with him at the time reacting to a situation. He also has little development at all because the lack of a concrete goal or flaws.
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* TooPowerfulToLive: ''Max''. Goodness, whenever he shows up, the Guardian Council simply doesn't stand a chance against his wit and power, to the point that he actually has to [[DrivenToSuicide dispose himself]] out of the plot.
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* CoversAlwaysLie: ''Escape from Lucien'', BIG TIME. For one, you'd think you're gonna get a Colossus mech fight with Navin, Alyson, and Cogsley piloting, the Guardian Council being badass, and an omnious Elf hovering over them, ambiguous if they're a foe or not. What you'd get: an absolutely downgraded mech fight with WeaponsThatSuck and no Colossus because they're destroyed before ANY of them can be used, with Cogsley having little to NO involvement at all and is instead replaced by General Pil. The Guardian Council immediately got their asses handed to them by Max and the reason why Max was even eliminated was by his own terms and in the end couldn't even [[InvincibleVillain beat him]], and the Elf on the cover?? That's just [[NiceGirl Riva]], and she's firmly on the side of good. Yeah, it's lying alright.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: that Trellis getting a well-deserved punch in the face in book 2 is less cathartic and more sickening when you finally learn his backstory.


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* HesJustHiding: most fans towards Gabilan, as it's never explicitly shown that he died.
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* CaptainObviousReveal: it's not exactly hard to foresee that the real villain in ''The Last Council'' was [[spoiler: Max]].
** Ever since his introduction, he already has a smug smirk going on.
** And not to mention, he frequently uses flattery and is treated as an underdog by everyone.
** He's afraid of confronting the other stonekeepers, but when he blew away those grouls, he pulled off a bigger attack than ''anything'' Emily has ever produced.
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** Emily and her motives. Is she truly selfless, working for the sake of Alledia and her family? Or is she is operating on self-centered motivations, just staying to achieve the power to turn back time and get her father back? (m8 if you about to edit this, mind adding a bit more? Thank u)

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** Emily and her motives. Is she truly selfless, working for the sake of Alledia and her family? Or is she is operating on self-centered motivations, just staying to achieve the power to turn back time and get her father back? (m8 if you about to edit this, mind adding a bit more? Thank u)back?
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* AccidentalAesop: villains in Amulet tend to believe in [[TheEndJustifiesTheMeans sacrifices needed to be made for the greater good]], which is not untrue in itself but the belief is twisted as such to the degree that being bad means being ruthless in sacrificing things and becoming agressive when it comes to achieving goals — [[spoiler:which happens to Emily, especially as the series continue and her determined nature grows, hence her fall in ''Firelight'']].

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* AccidentalAesop: villains in Amulet tend to believe in [[TheEndJustifiesTheMeans sacrifices needed to be made for the greater good]], which is not untrue in itself but the belief is twisted as such to the degree that being bad means being ruthless in sacrificing things and becoming agressive when it comes to achieving goals — [[spoiler:which happens to Emily, especially as the series continue and her determined nature grows, hence her fall in ''Firelight'']]. Thus meaning a person must be restrained when it comes to certain situations and capable of compromise when needed, just not of morals.
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* AccidentalAesop: villains in Amulet tend to believe in [[TheEndJustifiesTheMeans sacrifices needed to be made for the greater good]], which is not untrue in itself but the belief is twisted as such to the degree that being bad means being ruthless in sacrificing things and becoming agressive when it comes to achieving goals — [[spoiler:which happens to Emily, especially as the series continue and her determined nature grows, hence her fall in ''Firelight'']].
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** Emily and her motives. Is she truly selfless, working for the sake of Alledia and her family? Or is she is operating on self-centered motivations, just staying to achieve the power to turn back time and get her father back?

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** Emily and her motives. Is she truly selfless, working for the sake of Alledia and her family? Or is she is operating on self-centered motivations, just staying to achieve the power to turn back time and get her father back?back? (m8 if you about to edit this, mind adding a bit more? Thank u)
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** Emily and her motives. Is she truly selfless, working for the sake of Alledia and her family? Or is she is operating on self-centered motivations, just staying to achieve the power to turn back time and get her father back?


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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Trellis's face introduction in ''The Stonekeeper'' has him biting into a slug — mouth opened wide into physically implausible degrees with layers of teeth — and this never happens again, nor touched upon.

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