History YMMV / AdventureTime

20th Apr '16 2:23:48 PM ParkedCarAnne
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* FandomBerserkButton: Especially with the show getting darker and taking more advantage of the post-apocalyptic setting, fans get ''really'' bored at best with "only stoners could like/create this".

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* FandomBerserkButton: Especially with the show getting darker and taking more advantage of the post-apocalyptic setting, fans get ''really'' bored at best angry with "only claims that "...only stoners could like/create this".this show".



** With ''WesternAnimation/RegularShow,'' though the creators are colleagues, and most people who like one show like the other.

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** With ''WesternAnimation/RegularShow,'' though the creators are colleagues, both shows helped in reinvigorating CartoonNetwork after its infamous NetworkDecay, and most people there are ''Adventure Time'' fans who also like one show like the other.''Regular Show'' (and vice versa).
20th Apr '16 2:19:12 PM ParkedCarAnne
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** Another of the guest animator episodes "The Food Chain" and especially "Water Park Pranks" tend to be seen as not only bizarr but [[BrokenBase base breakers]] among fans.

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** Another of the guest animator episodes "The Food Chain" and especially "Water Park Pranks" tend to be seen as not only bizarr bizarre but [[BrokenBase base breakers]] among fans.



* DryDockedShip: Princess Bubblegum and Marceline. Olivia Olsen confirmed that they were ex-girlfriends, but that the show wasn't allowed to portray it.

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* DryDockedShip: Princess Bubblegum and Marceline. Olivia Olsen confirmed that they were ex-girlfriends, but that the show wasn't allowed to portray it.it as TV executives for kids' shows are usually wary of showing same-sex couples out of fear of backlash from advertisers and viewers (though ''StevenUniverse'', ''Clarence'', and ''TheAmazingWorldOfGumball'' have shown that it can be done with little to no controversy[[note]]besides being edited/altered on international airings in countries that aren't as tolerant of homosexuality as North America is[[/note]]).



** After "Holly Jolly Secrets," anything the Ice King has ever done that was meant to be funny could be called this.

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** After "Holly Jolly Secrets," anything the Ice King has ever done that was meant to be funny could be called this.this, as all of his antics are the product of a deteriorating mental state.
17th Apr '16 4:19:18 PM Berrenta
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* ItGetsBetter: The show can be kind of a slog at first, throwing you into the deep end of completely random humor. It takes a while to build up any real sense of the characters and it isn't until the third season that any serious WorldBuilding and backstory was explained.


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* SlowPacedBeginning: The show can be kind of a slog at first, throwing you into the deep end of completely random humor. It takes a while to build up any real sense of the characters and it isn't until the third season that any serious WorldBuilding and backstory was explained.
27th Mar '16 2:15:20 PM ading
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* DesignatedVillain: This trope was a major plot point in "Donny." Donny's meanness counters the Why-Wolves. He's shown to be, deep down, a VERY nice dude.
26th Mar '16 1:41:42 PM ading
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** The moral of "His Hero" is that sometimes violence can be more helpful than nonviolence. Considering the show's nature (see BrokenAesop), this might be [[SpoofAesop a joke]], but it's not entirely wrong.
** The moral of "Freak City" seems to be that some people are just jerks and that sometimes you have to deal with them. Again, not entirely wrong.

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** The moral of "His Hero" is that sometimes violence can be more helpful than nonviolence. Considering the show's nature (see BrokenAesop), this might be [[SpoofAesop a joke]], but it's not entirely wrong.
wrong. Also a SpoofAesop, since the actual lesson Finn and Jake took from it was "don't listen to old people".
** The moral of "Freak City" seems to be that some people are just jerks and that sometimes you have to deal with them. Again, not entirely wrong. Again, doubles as a SpoofAesop, since the stated moral of the episode is "Magic Man is a jerk".
19th Mar '16 3:49:15 PM Monolaf317
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** Most fanartists who draw Finn in a realistic or {{Animesque}} style ignore the WordOfGod that his [[TheNoseless lack of a nose]] is a [[FacialHorror genetic mutation]], he has bad teeth and his [[NiceHat hat]] is made from a [[BearsAreBadNews bear's head]]; instead drawing him as a {{Bishonen}} with normal features, perfect teeth and a fluffy fabric hat (or none at all).


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* SelfFanservice:
** Most fanartists who draw Finn in a realistic or {{Animesque}} style ignore the WordOfGod that his [[TheNoseless lack of a nose]] is a [[FacialHorror genetic mutation]], he has bad teeth and his [[NiceHat hat]] is made from a [[BearsAreBadNews bear's head]]; instead drawing him as a {{Bishonen}} with normal features, perfect teeth and a fluffy fabric hat (or none at all).
15th Mar '16 7:09:16 AM ading
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** The apparent moral of "Too Old" is that an [[DomesticAbuse abuser's]] violent behavior ''will'' escalate if they are not held accountable, and that such abuse can even culminate in murder. Also, some people are too far gone to be redeemed, and progress made will sometimes be reversed.

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** The apparent moral of "Too Old" is that an [[DomesticAbuse abuser's]] violent behavior ''will'' escalate if they are not held accountable, and that such abuse can even culminate in murder. Also, Old": some people are too far gone to be redeemed, and progress made will sometimes be reversed.
13th Mar '16 1:02:13 AM Loekman3
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** After the premiere of "Incendium", various shippers (but "Fubblegum" in particular) are leaving their old ships in favor of Finn/Flame Princess. Finn/FP shippers jumped themselves after Finn's behavior in "Frost and Fire" and "Red Throne". Those who stayed on the ship are ridiculed for finding excuses to blame someone other than Finn for the breakup, as the shippers also put blame on FP (for overreacting and making a rash decision, as well as her dismissive behavior towards Finn), Ice King (for starting the whole thing), Jake (for egging Finn on), and the Cosmic Owl (for creating the cosmic dream that caused the breakup). A few fans even theorize that it was the machinations of Flame King and Don John, in a world domination scheme that Finn was obstructing.

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** After the premiere of "Incendium", various shippers (but "Fubblegum" in particular) are leaving their old ships in favor of Finn/Flame Princess. Finn/FP shippers jumped themselves after Finn's behavior in "Frost and Fire" and "Red Throne". Those who stayed on the ship are ridiculed for finding excuses to blame someone other than Finn for the breakup, as the shippers also put blame on FP (for overreacting and making a rash decision, as well as her dismissive behavior towards Finn), Ice King (for starting the whole thing), Jake (for egging Finn on), and the Cosmic Owl (for creating the cosmic dream that caused the breakup). A few fans even theorize that it was the machinations of Flame King and Don John, in a world domination scheme that Finn was obstructing.



** Was Flame Princess right in dumping Finn after he "betrayed" her? Or did she grossly overreact and let one bad experience automatically cancel out all the good times she and Finn had together? The fact that she refused to listen to Finn's explanation suggests the latter.

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** Was Flame Princess right in dumping Finn after he "betrayed" her? Or did she grossly overreact and let one bad experience automatically cancel out all the good times she and Finn had together? The fact that she refused to listen to Finn's explanation suggests the latter.together?



* AngstWhatAngst: Subverted with Finn, who for the first few seasons is bizarrely upbeat about everything. But as he gets older, "the vault" is seen as not a good idea, he fucks up hard regarding romance(losing Princess Bubblegum to outside influences and Flame Princess due to her gross overreaction), and he goes into straight clinical depression regarding his [[spoiler: father and losing his arm]]. Same goes with Jake and his kids. At first he's fine with them growing up so fast because looking after them was too much responsibility, but then really gets melancholy about it, and season six goes into their point of view, as although he misses them, all they know is that he's neglected them all except Jake Jr.

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* AngstWhatAngst: Subverted with Finn, who for the first few seasons is bizarrely upbeat about everything. But as he gets older, "the vault" is seen as not a good idea, he fucks up hard regarding romance(losing Princess Bubblegum to outside influences and Flame Princess due to her gross overreaction), his emotional manipulations), and he goes into straight clinical depression regarding his [[spoiler: father and losing his arm]]. Same goes with Jake and his kids. At first he's fine with them growing up so fast because looking after them was too much responsibility, but then really gets melancholy about it, and season six goes into their point of view, as although he misses them, all they know is that he's neglected them all except Jake Jr.



** [[{{Tsundere}} Flame]] [[FieryRedhead Princess]] sometimes gets this, [[DieForOurShip especially from Fubblegum supporters.]] Although it's now been revealed that she isn't evil and doesn't want to be, and that she has a pretty good FreudianExcuse for her early behavior, there are still those who persist in portraying her as merely a destructive psycho. Seems to have died off after she and Finn [[spoiler: broke up at the end]], though not by much, with some going as far as to depict her as seeking to murder Finn and/or whatever new love interest he happens to have, out of jealousy, desire for revenge, or because she has immersed herself in her evil side. These stories tend to end with Finn killing Flame Princess.

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** [[{{Tsundere}} Flame]] [[FieryRedhead Princess]] sometimes gets this, [[DieForOurShip especially from Fubblegum supporters.]] Although it's now been revealed that she isn't evil and doesn't want to be, and that she has a pretty good FreudianExcuse for her early behavior, there are still those who persist in portraying her as merely a destructive psycho. Seems to have died off after she and Finn [[spoiler: broke up at the end]], though not by much, with some going as far as to depict her as seeking to murder Finn and/or whatever new love interest he happens to have, out of jealousy, desire for revenge, or because she has immersed herself in her evil side. These stories tend to end with Finn killing Flame Princess.



** Flame Princess has a lot of potential as a character, especially as her continual wavering between good and evil meant she could work equally well as a hero ''or'' a villain, but was mostly relegated to just "Finn's girlfriend" and most of her development revolved around him. "Frost & Fire" gave her more agency and "Earth & Water" had her usurp her father as Flame King, hopefully signifying her rise to prominence. But she has been DemotedToExtra ever since that event, with only ''two'' episodes after this incident[[note]]"The Red Throne" and "The Cooler"[[/note]] that features her as a major character. Finn doesn't even keep his promise to her about visiting as after becoming the new ruler of the Fire Kingdom, FP is essentially PutOnABus with Finn never visiting or even speaking to her after his irresponsible actions in "The Red Throne". It's likely that FP either banned him from entering the kingdom due to his immaturity, or Finn holds contempt towards FP, because he believes that she and Cinnamon Bun are dating, a belief he still holds onto. Thus far, Finn has yet to confront FP about this, and they have not had an onscreen meeting since "The Red Throne". Most fans agree that Finn and FP's next meeting will either end with them becoming enemies, or Finn will kill FP either in cold blood or to stop her from doing something evil. Either way, it will be violent and could potentially cause Finn to have a FaceHeelTurn.

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** Flame Princess has a lot of potential as a character, especially as her continual wavering between good and evil meant she could work equally well as a hero ''or'' a villain, but was mostly relegated to just "Finn's girlfriend" and most of her development revolved around him. "Frost & Fire" gave her more agency and "Earth & Water" had her usurp her father as Flame King, hopefully signifying her rise to prominence. But she has been DemotedToExtra ever since that event, with only ''two'' episodes after this incident[[note]]"The Red Throne" and "The Cooler"[[/note]] that features her as a major character. Finn doesn't even keep his promise to her about visiting as after becoming the new ruler of the Fire Kingdom, FP is essentially PutOnABus with Finn never visiting or even speaking to her after his irresponsible actions in "The Red Throne". It's likely that FP either banned him from entering the kingdom due to his immaturity, or Finn holds contempt towards FP, because he believes that she and Cinnamon Bun are dating, a belief he still holds onto. Thus far, Finn has yet to confront FP about this, and they have not had an onscreen meeting since "The Red Throne". Most fans agree that Finn and FP's next meeting will either end with them becoming enemies, or Finn will kill FP either in cold blood or to stop her from doing something evil. Either way, it will be violent and could potentially cause Finn to have a FaceHeelTurn.
12th Mar '16 8:57:52 PM BNSF1995
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** After the premiere of "Incendium", various shippers (but "Fubblegum" in particular) are leaving their old ships in favor of Finn/Flame Princess. Finn/FP shippers jumped themselves after Finn's behavior in "Frost and Fire" and "Red Throne".

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** After the premiere of "Incendium", various shippers (but "Fubblegum" in particular) are leaving their old ships in favor of Finn/Flame Princess. Finn/FP shippers jumped themselves after Finn's behavior in "Frost and Fire" and "Red Throne". Those who stayed on the ship are ridiculed for finding excuses to blame someone other than Finn for the breakup, as the shippers also put blame on FP (for overreacting and making a rash decision, as well as her dismissive behavior towards Finn), Ice King (for starting the whole thing), Jake (for egging Finn on), and the Cosmic Owl (for creating the cosmic dream that caused the breakup). A few fans even theorize that it was the machinations of Flame King and Don John, in a world domination scheme that Finn was obstructing.



** Was Flame Princess right in dumping Finn after he "betrayed" her? Or did she grossly overreact and let one bad experience automatically cancel out all the good times she and Finn had together? The fact that she refused to listen to Finn's explanation suggests the latter.



* AngstWhatAngst: Subverted with Finn, who for the first few seasons is bizarrely upbeat about everything. But as he gets older, "the vault" is seen as not a good idea, he fucks up hard regarding romance, and he goes into straight clinical depression regarding his [[spoiler: father and losing his arm]]. Same goes with Jake and his kids. At first he's fine with them growing up so fast because looking after them was too much responsibility, but then really gets melancholy about it, and season six goes into their point of view, as although he misses them, all they know is that he's neglected them all except Jake Jr.
** In-universe (and played for attempted laughs,) Ice King didn't care at all that Princess Monster Wife died.

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* AngstWhatAngst: Subverted with Finn, who for the first few seasons is bizarrely upbeat about everything. But as he gets older, "the vault" is seen as not a good idea, he fucks up hard regarding romance, romance(losing Princess Bubblegum to outside influences and Flame Princess due to her gross overreaction), and he goes into straight clinical depression regarding his [[spoiler: father and losing his arm]]. Same goes with Jake and his kids. At first he's fine with them growing up so fast because looking after them was too much responsibility, but then really gets melancholy about it, and season six goes into their point of view, as although he misses them, all they know is that he's neglected them all except Jake Jr.
** In-universe (and played for attempted laughs,) Ice King didn't care at all that Princess Monster Wife died.died, instead despairing over the fact that she "gave away all [his] stuff".



** [[{{Tsundere}} Flame]] [[FieryRedhead Princess]] sometimes gets this, [[DieForOurShip especially from Fubblegum supporters.]] Although it's now been revealed that she isn't evil and doesn't want to be, and that she has a pretty good FreudianExcuse for her early behavior, there are still those who persist in portraying her as merely a destructive psycho. Seems to have died off after she and Finn [[spoiler: broke up at the end]].

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** [[{{Tsundere}} Flame]] [[FieryRedhead Princess]] sometimes gets this, [[DieForOurShip especially from Fubblegum supporters.]] Although it's now been revealed that she isn't evil and doesn't want to be, and that she has a pretty good FreudianExcuse for her early behavior, there are still those who persist in portraying her as merely a destructive psycho. Seems to have died off after she and Finn [[spoiler: broke up at the end]].end]], though not by much, with some going as far as to depict her as seeking to murder Finn and/or whatever new love interest he happens to have, out of jealousy, desire for revenge, or because she has immersed herself in her evil side. These stories tend to end with Finn killing Flame Princess.



** [[spoiler:13-year old Princess Bubblegum]] in "Too Young". She has only a little over an episode before [[spoiler:being changed back to normal]], and that aspect of her is never brought up or mentioned ever again.

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** [[spoiler:13-year old Princess Bubblegum]] in "Too Young". She has only a little over an episode before [[spoiler:being changed back to normal]], normal (the original intention was for her to remain young for a few more episodes, but this was nixed when the team found it hard to write for her)]], and that aspect of her is never brought up or mentioned ever again.



** Flame Princess has a lot of potential as a character, especially as her continual wavering between good and evil meant she could work equally well as a hero ''or'' a villain, but was mostly relegated to just "Finn's girlfriend" and most of her development revolved around him. "Frost & Fire" gave her more agency and "Earth & Water" had her usurp her father as Flame King, hopefully signifying her rise to prominence. But she has been DemotedToExtra ever since that event, with only ''two'' episodes after this incident[[note]]"The Red Throne" and "The Cooler"[[/note]] that features her as a major character. Finn doesn't even keep his promise to her about visiting as after becoming the new ruler of the Fire Kingdom, FP is essentially PutOnABus with Finn never visiting or even speaking to her after his irresponsible actions in "The Red Throne".

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** Flame Princess has a lot of potential as a character, especially as her continual wavering between good and evil meant she could work equally well as a hero ''or'' a villain, but was mostly relegated to just "Finn's girlfriend" and most of her development revolved around him. "Frost & Fire" gave her more agency and "Earth & Water" had her usurp her father as Flame King, hopefully signifying her rise to prominence. But she has been DemotedToExtra ever since that event, with only ''two'' episodes after this incident[[note]]"The Red Throne" and "The Cooler"[[/note]] that features her as a major character. Finn doesn't even keep his promise to her about visiting as after becoming the new ruler of the Fire Kingdom, FP is essentially PutOnABus with Finn never visiting or even speaking to her after his irresponsible actions in "The Red Throne". It's likely that FP either banned him from entering the kingdom due to his immaturity, or Finn holds contempt towards FP, because he believes that she and Cinnamon Bun are dating, a belief he still holds onto. Thus far, Finn has yet to confront FP about this, and they have not had an onscreen meeting since "The Red Throne". Most fans agree that Finn and FP's next meeting will either end with them becoming enemies, or Finn will kill FP either in cold blood or to stop her from doing something evil. Either way, it will be violent and could potentially cause Finn to have a FaceHeelTurn.
8th Mar '16 12:14:40 PM Josef5678
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** The apparent moral of "Too Old" is that an [[DomesticAbuser abuser's]] violent behavior ''will'' escalate if they are not held accountable, and that such abuse can even culminate in murder. Also, some people are too far gone to be redeemed, and progress made will sometimes be reversed.

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** The apparent moral of "Too Old" is that an [[DomesticAbuser [[DomesticAbuse abuser's]] violent behavior ''will'' escalate if they are not held accountable, and that such abuse can even culminate in murder. Also, some people are too far gone to be redeemed, and progress made will sometimes be reversed.



** Ash, Marceline's boyfriend, also gets a lot of hate due to his selfish attitude and his [[DomesticAbuser abusive and manipulative behaviour towards his girlfriend]]. Naturally, this is the most pronounced among fans of Marceline.

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** Ash, Marceline's boyfriend, also gets a lot of hate due to his selfish attitude and his [[DomesticAbuser [[DomesticAbuse abusive and manipulative behaviour towards his girlfriend]]. Naturally, this is the most pronounced among fans of Marceline.
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