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Internet Backdraft is now Flame Bait and being dewicked per TRS.


* InternetBackdraft: There was a negative reaction from LGBTQ fans when in the first issue America Chavez, openly lesbian superhero, gets banished to Shield for breaking Battleworld laws, leading some to accuse Marvel of gay erasure and making comics only about straight women (although this ignores the fact that Loki is canonically bisexual and had a big part in the story). That, and there's the matter that America Chavez ended up being a prominent character in the ''Siege'' tie-in.
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* MarySuetopia: Arcadia - a LadyLand that's part of the world replacing Earth-616 after the destruction of the Marvel multiverse in the ''[[ComicBook/SecretWars2015 Secret Wars'' CrisisCrossover - where women rule the world, is described as a "feminist paradise". However, the first issue suggests it might be a subversion and Arcadia still has to abide to the laws of Battleworld (as in, laws of Doctor Doom) and the comic seems to say that utopia in one place is worthless if [[CrapsackWorld the rest of the world is still hell]].

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* MarySuetopia: Arcadia - a LadyLand that's part of the world replacing Earth-616 after the destruction of the Marvel multiverse in the ''[[ComicBook/SecretWars2015 Secret Wars'' Wars]]'' CrisisCrossover - where women rule the world, is described as a "feminist paradise". However, the first issue suggests it might be a subversion and Arcadia still has to abide to the laws of Battleworld (as in, laws of Doctor Doom) and the comic seems to say that utopia in one place is worthless if [[CrapsackWorld the rest of the world is still hell]].
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* MarySuetopia: Arcadia, a LadyLand that's part of the world replacing Earth-616 after the destruction of the Marvel multiverse in the latest CrisisCrossover where women rule the world, is described as a "feminist paradise". However, the first issue suggests it might be a subversion and Arcadia still has to abide to the laws of Battleworld (as in, laws of Doctor Doom) and the comic seems to say that utopia in one place is worthless if [[CrapsackWorld the rest of the world is still hell]].

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* MarySuetopia: Arcadia, Arcadia - a LadyLand that's part of the world replacing Earth-616 after the destruction of the Marvel multiverse in the latest ''[[ComicBook/SecretWars2015 Secret Wars'' CrisisCrossover - where women rule the world, is described as a "feminist paradise". However, the first issue suggests it might be a subversion and Arcadia still has to abide to the laws of Battleworld (as in, laws of Doctor Doom) and the comic seems to say that utopia in one place is worthless if [[CrapsackWorld the rest of the world is still hell]].

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* HoYay:
** While the comics mentions that Nico and America are Loki's wards, meaning she is their foster mother, it didn't stop some fans from getting different vibes from their relationship. It helps Loki and America shipping was already a thing [[ComicBook/YoungAvengers before]].
** The final issue of the ''Secret Wars'' edition decides to cram in one with ComicBook/SpiderGwen and Mary Jane.



* LesYayShipping:
** While the comics mentions that Nico and America are Loki's wards, meaning she is their foster mother, it didn't stop some fans from getting different vibes from their relationship. It helps Loki and America shipping was already a thing [[ComicBook/YoungAvengers before]].
** The final issue of the ''Secret Wars'' edition decides to cram in one with ComicBook/SpiderGwen and Mary Jane.
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** Loki being given design from Joe Straczynski's Thor run, instead of one of her looks from ''Agent of Asgard''; see BaseBreaker above.

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** Loki being given design from Joe Straczynski's Thor run, instead of one of her looks from ''Agent of Asgard''; see BaseBreaker above.Asgard''.

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About fans and critics praising it such audiences think it doesn't measure up. Not just disappointment.


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** ComicBook/MarvelZombies - you either think their attack was properly foreshadowed and gives the team good material for a grand finale or that they came out of nowhere and/or are derailing the plot from what it should be focusing on, to be about monsters who are already antagonists [[WolverinePublicity in five other books]].

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** * BrokenBase: ComicBook/MarvelZombies - you either think their attack was properly foreshadowed and gives the team good material for a grand finale or that they came out of nowhere and/or are derailing the plot from what it should be focusing on, to be about monsters who are already antagonists [[WolverinePublicity in five other books]].



* HypeBacklash: A-Force was one of the most anticipated miniseries back when it was first announced, but the first issue received a lukewarm reception upon release, and the delayed release of subsequent issues has cooled a lot of the excitement for the series.
** In the story arc about the countess, promotional material for it, and indeed the comic story itself said Nico would be shown to be more powerful than ever before. The moment itself however, was just her doing a "gangster boots" spell to nearly drown her six team mates, something that's not much more impressive than things she had done earlier.

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updated; removed "Narm" section, as none of the examples listed were actually narm.


* InternetBackdraft: There was a negative reaction from LGBTQ fans when in the first issue [[spoiler:America Chavez, openly lesbian superhero, was banished to Shield for breaking Battleworld laws]], leading some to accuse Marvel of gay erasure and making comics only about straight women (although this ignores the fact that Loki is canonically bisexual and it seems she is going to have a big part in the story). That, and there's the matter that [[spoiler:America Chavez has been solicited as being a prominent character in the ''Siege'' tie-in.]]

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* InternetBackdraft: There was a negative reaction from LGBTQ fans when in the first issue [[spoiler:America America Chavez, openly lesbian superhero, was gets banished to Shield for breaking Battleworld laws]], laws, leading some to accuse Marvel of gay erasure and making comics only about straight women (although this ignores the fact that Loki is canonically bisexual and it seems she is going to have had a big part in the story). That, and there's the matter that [[spoiler:America America Chavez has been solicited as ended up being a prominent character in the ''Siege'' tie-in.]]



* MarySuetopia: Arcadia, a LadyLand that's part of the world replacing Earth-616 after the destruction of the Marvel multiverse in the latest CrisisCrossover where women rule the world, is described as a "feminist paradise". However, the first issue suggests it might be a subversion and Arcadia still has to abide to the laws of Battleworld (as in, laws of [[spoiler:Doctor Doom]]) and the comic seems to say that utopia in one place is worthless if [[CrapsackWorld the rest of the world is still hell]].

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* MarySuetopia: Arcadia, a LadyLand that's part of the world replacing Earth-616 after the destruction of the Marvel multiverse in the latest CrisisCrossover where women rule the world, is described as a "feminist paradise". However, the first issue suggests it might be a subversion and Arcadia still has to abide to the laws of Battleworld (as in, laws of [[spoiler:Doctor Doom]]) Doctor Doom) and the comic seems to say that utopia in one place is worthless if [[CrapsackWorld the rest of the world is still hell]].



* {{Narm}}: Arcadia Nico repeating America Chavez's first name came off as more silly looking than it should have been.
** The clichéd red eyes on the Countess' Mind control victims
** Nico suddenly having random encounters with Misty Knight and Elsa Bloodstone to discuss their artificial arms may either be seen as cute and heartwarming, or a lame immature joke, especially since Misty's appearance has absolutely no bearing on the plot.
** Nico Minrou who came from a team of perpetually penniless Runaways is somehow able to afford a plane trip to Japan, and a safehouse outside of her homestate.



** In the ANAD series, Singularity is supposed to come off as a surrogate little sister to Nico, but enough readers thought that there was something else between them that the editor had to step in and insist that Singularity is like a child and there are no plans to put her in a romantic relationship with Nico.

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** In the ANAD series, Singularity is supposed to come off as a surrogate little sister to Nico, but enough readers thought that there was something else ''else'' between them that the editor had to step in and insist that Singularity is like a child and there are no plans to put her in a romantic relationship with Nico.



* TheScrappy: Singularity falls into this category for people who read the book for the EnsembleDarkhorse. Some will admit that this isn't the fault of the character as much as the story's [[spoiler:destroying the one thing they read it for in order to build up this character]] and insistence on using even TheWoobie's pain to make her look better.

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* TheScrappy: Singularity falls into this category for people who read the book for the EnsembleDarkhorse. Some will admit that this isn't the fault of the character as much as the story's [[spoiler:destroying destroying the one thing they read it for in order to build up this character]] character and insistence on using even TheWoobie's pain to make her look better.



** Nico has always been NotWearingTights, instead preferring a [[ActionFashionista variety of her]] {{Goth}} outfits, so she gets a new one here. Some of her fans are not happy that it's one of the most {{Stripperiffic}} ones.
*** Some of the post-''Secret Wars'' covers depict Nico wearing a ''cheongsam'' (a type of Chinese dress), which is a very strange costume choice for a character of explicitly Japanese descent.

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** Nico has always been NotWearingTights, instead preferring a [[ActionFashionista variety of her]] {{Goth}} outfits, so she gets a new one here. Some of her fans are not happy that it's one of the most a {{Stripperiffic}} ones.
one inspired by one of Jo Chen's notoriously-inaccurate ''Runaways'' covers.
*** Some of the post-''Secret Wars'' covers depict Nico wearing a ''cheongsam'' (a type of Chinese dress), which is a very strange costume choice for a character of explicitly Japanese descent. Thankfully, the series proper ultimately gave her a costume closer to her usual fashion sense.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: When announced, some fans complained about the book being all-female, on the grounds that the inverse wouldn't be accepted. Except... there ''have'' been all-male Avengers books. In particular, just about EVERY incarnation of ComicBook/TheIlluminati has been wholly male. In fact, one such incarnation was going on ''at the same time'' in ''Comicbook/NewAvengers''.

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When announced, some fans complained about the book being all-female, on the grounds that the inverse wouldn't be accepted. Except... there ''have'' been all-male Avengers books. In particular, just about EVERY incarnation of ComicBook/TheIlluminati has been wholly male. In fact, one such incarnation was going on ''at the same time'' in ''Comicbook/NewAvengers''.''Comicbook/NewAvengers''.
** This was not the first ongoing superhero team composed only by women. The ''ComicBook/FearlessDefenders'', released just two years before, had the same premise.
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* Narm: Arcadia Nico repeating America Chavez's first name came off as more silly looking than it should have been.

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* Narm: {{Narm}}: Arcadia Nico repeating America Chavez's first name came off as more silly looking than it should have been.
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** In the story arc about the countess, promotional material for it, and indeed the comic story itself said Nico would be shown to be more powerful than ever before. The moment itself however, was just her doing a "gangster boots" spell to nearly drown her six team mates, something that's not much more impressive than things she had done earlier.
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** At one point Nico threatens to cut Medusa's hair with a special razor. Fast forward to the Inhumans TV adaptation where that is exactly what happens to Medusa.
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* Narm: Arcadia Nico repeating America Chavez's first name came off as more silly looking than it should have been.
** The clichéd red eyes on the Countess' Mind control victims
** Nico suddenly having random encounters with Misty Knight and Elsa Bloodstone to discuss their artificial arms may either be seen as cute and heartwarming, or a lame immature joke, especially since Misty's appearance has absolutely no bearing on the plot.
** Nico Minrou who came from a team of perpetually penniless Runaways is somehow able to afford a plane trip to Japan, and a safehouse outside of her homestate.
* NightmareFuel: The town where people are getting turned into hideous bug creatures. Even most of the A-force team gets changed near the end!

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* GrowingTheBeard: Almost everyone agrees that the series has vastly improved since Kelly Thompson and Ben Caldwell took over.

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* GrowingTheBeard: Almost everyone agrees that the series has vastly improved since after Kelly Thompson and Ben Caldwell took over.over.
* HarsherInHindsight: Throughout the post-Secret Wars series, Nico's time with A-Force shows her gradually recovering her sense of self-worth after the events of ''Avengers Arena'' and ''Avengers Undercover''. The 2017 ''Runaways'' series, however, reveals that her decision to walk out on the Runaways led to Klara and Molly being taken away by child services, which in turn led to the team disbanding.

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"See this other trope" is not an example. If Loki's betrayal divided the fandom, explain how she betrayed whatsherface and what the divided responses of the fandom are.


*** [[spoiler:Loki's betrayal divided people further, see ObviousJudas below]]
*** Generally speaking Loki's fandom can be divided into three big categories: [[StatusQuoIsGod Traditionalists]] ("Again with this? Loki is ''not'' a woman! At least she was evil. Good."), [[DracoInLeatherPants movie fangirls]] ("Loki as a woman is weird/Why would you reference JMS, but that family is so cute... ''NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!''"), and [[MysteryFiction trickster tale fans]] ("Well, this is an interesting setup. Really? ''That's'' your twist? *facepalm*"). An exercise in how to alienate everybody.

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*** [[spoiler:Loki's betrayal divided people further, see ObviousJudas below]]
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** Generally speaking Loki's fandom can be divided into three big categories: [[StatusQuoIsGod Traditionalists]] ("Again with this? Loki is ''not'' a woman! At least she was evil. Good."), [[DracoInLeatherPants movie fangirls]] ("Loki as a woman is weird/Why would you reference JMS, but that family is so cute... ''NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!''"), and [[MysteryFiction trickster tale fans]] ("Well, this is an interesting setup. Really? ''That's'' your twist? *facepalm*"). An exercise in how to alienate everybody.

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*** [[spoiler: Loki's betrayal divided people further, see ObviousJudas below]]

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*** [[spoiler: Loki's [[spoiler:Loki's betrayal divided people further, see ObviousJudas below]]



** The A-Force version of Nico has gotten a mixed reception from ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'' fans; while many fans are happy to see a version of Nico that did not suffer through the events of ''ComicBook/AvengersArena'', some are put off by the implications that this Nico was never a Runaway.

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** The A-Force Arcadian version of Nico has gotten a mixed reception from ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'' fans; while many fans are happy to see a version of Nico that did not suffer through the events of ''ComicBook/AvengersArena'', some are put off by the implications that this Nico was never a Runaway.



* ObviousJudas: [[spoiler:Loki by virtue of being Loki]], even if it went against the characters current interpretation and everything set up about her in the first issues. Some hoped that maybe she'll have a good explanation why, at least... but what we got was bordering on [[InsaneTrollLogic word salad]].

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* ObviousJudas: [[spoiler:Loki by virtue of being Loki]], even if it went against the characters character's current interpretation and everything set up about her in the first issues. Some hoped that maybe she'll have a good explanation why, at least... but what we got was bordering on [[InsaneTrollLogic word salad]].



** Also in ''Secret Wars'' the whole struggle over the Barony could have lead to a complex and morally grey plot about necessary evils and conflicting loyalties, which was thrown out for a perfectly black and white interpretation to prop up the story of Singularity learning about humanity. Remind you this is what effectively lead to the RootingForTheEmpire example earlier.
* TheWoobie: Poor Nico loses everything she ever loved by the end of the ''Secret Wars'' series.
* WTHCostumingDepartment: The unfortunate part of paying tribute to all superheroines in Marvel history is that many heroines get their "classic" or "iconic" costumes. Some of these outfits really suck.

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** Also in ''Secret Wars'' the whole struggle over the Barony could have lead to a complex and morally grey plot about necessary evils and conflicting loyalties, which was thrown out for a perfectly black and white interpretation to prop up the story of Singularity learning about humanity. Remind you Mind you, this is what effectively lead to the RootingForTheEmpire example earlier.
* TheWoobie: Poor Arcadian Nico loses everything everyone she ever loved by the end of the ''Secret Wars'' series.
** Her mainstream counterpart isn't doing much better. Still dealing with the trauma from ''ComicBook/AvengersUndercover'', she's been separated from the other Runaways, her attempts to reach out to her surviving family in Japan are ruined by Antimatter, and her new team ends up getting divided by the events of ''ComicBook/CivilWarII''.
* WTHCostumingDepartment: The unfortunate part of paying tribute to all the superheroines in Marvel history is that many heroines get their "classic" or "iconic" costumes. Some of these outfits really suck.

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*** Generally speaking Loki's fandom can be divided into three big categories: [[StatusQuoIsGod Traditionalists]] ("Again with this? Loki is ''not'' a woman! At least she was evil. Good."), [[DracoInLeatherPants movie fangirls]] ("Loki as a woman is weird/Why would you reference JMS, but that family is so cute... ''NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!''"), and [[MysteryFiction trickster tale fans]] ("Well, this is an interesting setup. Really? That's your ''twist''? *facepalm*"). An exercise in how to alienate everybody.

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*** Generally speaking Loki's fandom can be divided into three big categories: [[StatusQuoIsGod Traditionalists]] ("Again with this? Loki is ''not'' a woman! At least she was evil. Good."), [[DracoInLeatherPants movie fangirls]] ("Loki as a woman is weird/Why would you reference JMS, but that family is so cute... ''NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!''"), and [[MysteryFiction trickster tale fans]] ("Well, this is an interesting setup. Really? That's ''That's'' your ''twist''? twist? *facepalm*"). An exercise in how to alienate everybody.



*** A similar divide has popped up in the post-''Secret Wars'' series, wherein Nico has apparently left the Runaways and relocated to Japan to connect with previously-unmentioned cousins. Some fans welcome the notion of Nico having a family outside of the Runaways, while others think it's just a cheap and lazy way to avoid mentioning the other Runaways, and that the writers are desperately trying to play up how "exotic" Nico is to cover up the fact that she is the only non-white character in the current lineup.
** ComicBook/MarvelZombies - you either think their attack was properly foreshadowed and gives the team good material for grand finale or that they came out of nowhere and/or are derailing the plot from what it should be focusing about, to be about monsters who are already antagonists [[WolverinePublicity in five other books]].

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*** A similar divide has popped up in the post-''Secret Wars'' series, wherein Nico has apparently left the Runaways and relocated to Japan to connect with previously-unmentioned cousins. Some fans welcome the notion of Nico having a family outside of the Runaways, while others think it's just a cheap and lazy way to avoid mentioning the other Runaways, and that the writers are desperately trying to play up how "exotic" Nico is to cover up the fact that she is the only non-white non-Caucasian character in the current lineup.
** ComicBook/MarvelZombies - you either think their attack was properly foreshadowed and gives the team good material for a grand finale or that they came out of nowhere and/or are derailing the plot from what it should be focusing about, on, to be about monsters who are already antagonists [[WolverinePublicity in five other books]].



* FauxSymbolism: Antimatter for some odd reason has a simplified [[https://stottilien.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/tree.gif kabbalistic tree of life]] as symbol (appears within a pattern like that, has a lot of them in its body like the stars on Singularity etc.). Why? Because why not apparently.

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* FauxSymbolism: Antimatter for some odd reason has a simplified [[https://stottilien.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/tree.gif kabbalistic tree of life]] as symbol (appears within a pattern like that, has a lot of them in its body like the stars on Singularity etc.). Why? Because why not apparently.not, apparently.
* GrowingTheBeard: Almost everyone agrees that the series has vastly improved since Kelly Thompson and Ben Caldwell took over.



* InternetBackdraft: There was negative reaction from LGBTQ fans when in the first issue [[spoiler:America Chavez, openly lesbian superhero, was banished to Shield for breaking Battleworld laws]], leading some to accuse Marvel of gay erasure and making comics only about straight women (although this ignores the fact that Loki is canonically bisexual and it seems she is going to have a big part in the story). That, and there's the matter that [[spoiler:America Chavez has been solicited as being a prominent character in the ''Siege'' tie-in.]]

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* InternetBackdraft: There was a negative reaction from LGBTQ fans when in the first issue [[spoiler:America Chavez, openly lesbian superhero, was banished to Shield for breaking Battleworld laws]], leading some to accuse Marvel of gay erasure and making comics only about straight women (although this ignores the fact that Loki is canonically bisexual and it seems she is going to have a big part in the story). That, and there's the matter that [[spoiler:America Chavez has been solicited as being a prominent character in the ''Siege'' tie-in.]]



** While the comics mentions Nico and America are Loki's wards, meaning she is their foster mother, it didn't stop some fans from getting different vibes from their relationship. It helps Loki and America shipping was already a thing [[ComicBook/YoungAvengers before]].

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** While the comics mentions that Nico and America are Loki's wards, meaning she is their foster mother, it didn't stop some fans from getting different vibes from their relationship. It helps Loki and America shipping was already a thing [[ComicBook/YoungAvengers before]].



* MarySuetopia: Arcadia, a LadyLand that's part of the world replacing Earth-616 after the destruction of the Marvel multiverse in the latest CrisisCrossover where women rule the world, is described as a "feminist paradise". However, first issue suggests it might be a subversion and Arcadia still has to abide to the laws of Battleworld (as in, laws of [[spoiler:Doctor Doom]]) and the comics seems to say that utopia in one place is worthless if [[CrapsackWorld the rest of the world is still hell]].
* ObviousJudas: [[spoiler:Loki by virtue of being Loki]], even if it went against the characters current interpretation and everything set up about her in the first issues. Some hoped that maybe she'll have a good explanation why at least... what we got was bordering on [[InsaneTrollLogic word salad]].
* OlderThanTheyThink: When announced, some fans complained about the book being all-female, on the grounds that the inverse wouldn't be accepted. Except...there ''have'' been all-male Avengers books. In particular, just about EVERY incarnation of ComicBook/TheIlluminati has been wholly male. In fact, one such incarnation was going on ''at the same time'' in ''Comicbook/NewAvengers''.

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* MarySuetopia: Arcadia, a LadyLand that's part of the world replacing Earth-616 after the destruction of the Marvel multiverse in the latest CrisisCrossover where women rule the world, is described as a "feminist paradise". However, the first issue suggests it might be a subversion and Arcadia still has to abide to the laws of Battleworld (as in, laws of [[spoiler:Doctor Doom]]) and the comics comic seems to say that utopia in one place is worthless if [[CrapsackWorld the rest of the world is still hell]].
* ObviousJudas: [[spoiler:Loki by virtue of being Loki]], even if it went against the characters current interpretation and everything set up about her in the first issues. Some hoped that maybe she'll have a good explanation why why, at least... but what we got was bordering on [[InsaneTrollLogic word salad]].
* OlderThanTheyThink: When announced, some fans complained about the book being all-female, on the grounds that the inverse wouldn't be accepted. Except... there ''have'' been all-male Avengers books. In particular, just about EVERY incarnation of ComicBook/TheIlluminati has been wholly male. In fact, one such incarnation was going on ''at the same time'' in ''Comicbook/NewAvengers''.



* TheScrappy: Singularity falls into this category for people who read the book for the EnsembleDarkhorse. Some will admit that this isn't the fault of the character as much as the story's [[spoiler:destroying the one thing they read it for for this character]] and insistence on using even TheWoobie's pain to make her look better.

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* TheScrappy: Singularity falls into this category for people who read the book for the EnsembleDarkhorse. Some will admit that this isn't the fault of the character as much as the story's [[spoiler:destroying the one thing they read it for for in order to build up this character]] and insistence on using even TheWoobie's pain to make her look better.



** Nico has always been NotWearingTights but a [[ActionFashionista variety of her]] {{Goth}} outfits, so she gets a new one here. Some of her fans are not happy that it's one of the most {{Stripperiffic}} ones.

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** Nico has always been NotWearingTights but NotWearingTights, instead preferring a [[ActionFashionista variety of her]] {{Goth}} outfits, so she gets a new one here. Some of her fans are not happy that it's one of the most {{Stripperiffic}} ones.
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* RelationshipWritingFumble:
** In the ''Secret Wars'' miniseries, a lot of fans initially thought America Chavez was Lady Loki's lover rather than her foster daughter.
** In the ANAD series, Singularity is supposed to come off as a surrogate little sister to Nico, but enough readers thought that there was something else between them that the editor had to step in and insist that Singularity is like a child and there are no plans to put her in a romantic relationship with Nico.
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Natter. Comically Missing The Point is an In Universe only trope.


*** [[ComicallyMissingThePoint Technically She-Hulk's not white either.]]
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**** [[ComicallyMissingThePoint Technically She-Hulk's not white either.]]
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** Also in ''Secret Wars'' the whole struggle over the Barony could have lead to a plot about necessary evils and conflicting loyalties which was thrown out for a perfectly black and white interpretation to prop up the story of Singularity learning about humanity.

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** Also in ''Secret Wars'' the whole struggle over the Barony could have lead to a complex and morally grey plot about necessary evils and conflicting loyalties loyalties, which was thrown out for a perfectly black and white interpretation to prop up the story of Singularity learning about humanity. Remind you this is what effectively lead to the RootingForTheEmpire example earlier.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A lot of readers were intrigued by the ''Secret Wars'' miniseries starting out with Loki being a foster mother to Nico Minoru and America Chavez, but this family is broken up over the course of the miniseries in order to give Nico a reason for wanting to protect Singularity.

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A lot of readers were intrigued by the ''Secret Wars'' miniseries starting out with Loki being a foster mother to Nico Minoru and America Chavez, but this family is broken up over the course of the miniseries in order to give Nico a reason for wanting to protect Singularity.Singularity.
** Also in ''Secret Wars'' the whole struggle over the Barony could have lead to a plot about necessary evils and conflicting loyalties which was thrown out for a perfectly black and white interpretation to prop up the story of Singularity learning about humanity.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: When announced, some fans complained about the book being all-female, on the grounds that the inverse wouldn't be accepted. Except...there ''have'' been all-male Avengers books. In particular, just about EVERY incarnation of ComicBook/TheIlluminati has been wholly make. In fact, one such incarnation was going on ''at the same time'' in ''Comicbook/NewAvengers''.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: When announced, some fans complained about the book being all-female, on the grounds that the inverse wouldn't be accepted. Except...there ''have'' been all-male Avengers books. In particular, just about EVERY incarnation of ComicBook/TheIlluminati has been wholly make.male. In fact, one such incarnation was going on ''at the same time'' in ''Comicbook/NewAvengers''.
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While I agree, this is just flame bait.


* OlderThanTheyThink: When announced, some fans, mostly anti-Feminist fans, complained about the book being all-female, on the grounds that the inverse wouldn't be accepted. Except...there ''was'' an All-Male Avengers book going on ''at the same time'' in the form of the Illuminati-focused New Avengers, which didn't have anyone complaining about not featuring any female members.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: When announced, some fans, mostly anti-Feminist fans, fans complained about the book being all-female, on the grounds that the inverse wouldn't be accepted. Except...there ''was'' an All-Male ''have'' been all-male Avengers book books. In particular, just about EVERY incarnation of ComicBook/TheIlluminati has been wholly make. In fact, one such incarnation was going on ''at the same time'' in the form of the Illuminati-focused New Avengers, which didn't have anyone complaining about not featuring any female members.''Comicbook/NewAvengers''.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: When announced, some fans, mostly anti-Feminist fans, complained about the book being all-female, on the grounds that the inverse wouldn't be accepted. Except...there ''was'' an All-Male Avengers book going on ''at the same time'' in the form of the Illuminati-focused New Avengers, which didn't have anyone complaining about not featuring any female members.
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Mary Sue tropes are flame bait, nevermind the questionable idea that Singularity even qualifies to begin with.


* BlackHoleSue: Somehow, Singularity is able to bring a complete group of strangers together, has incredible powers, and is the only character capable of harming Antimatter.
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* FauxSymbolism: Antimatter for some odd reason has a simplified [[https://stottilien.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/tree.gif kabbalistic tree of life]] as symbol (appears within a pattern like that, has a lot of them in its body like the stars on Singularity etc.). Why? Because why not apparently.

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* BlackHoleSue: Somehow, Singularity is able to bring a complete group of strangers together, has incredible powers, and is the only character capable of harming Antimatter.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A lot of readers were intrigued by the ''Secret Wars'' miniseries starting out with Loki being a foster mother to Nico Minoru and America Chavez, but this family is broken up over the course of the miniseries in order to give Nico a reason for wanting to protect Singularity.



*** Her post-''Secret Wars'' costume is a ''cheongsam'' (a type of Chinese dress), which is a very strange costume choice for a character of explicitly Japanese descent.

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*** Her Some of the post-''Secret Wars'' costume is covers depict Nico wearing a ''cheongsam'' (a type of Chinese dress), which is a very strange costume choice for a character of explicitly Japanese descent.
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*** A similar divide has popped up in the post-''Secret Wars'' series, wherein Nico has apparently left the Runaways and relocated to Japan to connect with previously-unmentioned cousins. Some fans welcome the notion of Nico having a family outside of the Runaways, while others think it's just a cheap and lazy way to avoid mentioning the other Runaways, and that the writers are desperately trying to play up how "exotic" Nico is to cover up the fact that she is the only non-white character in the current lineup.
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* TheScrappy: Singularity falls into this category for people who read the book for the EnsembleDarkhorse. Some will admit that this isn't the fault of the character as much as the story's [[spoiler:destroying the one thing they read it for for this character]] and insistence on using even TheWoobie's pain to make her look better.
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* MarySuetopia: Arcadia, a LadyLand that's part of the world replacing Earth-616 after the destruction of the Marvel multiverse in the latest CrisisCrossover where women rule the world, is described as a "feminist paradise". However, first issue suggests it might be a subversion and Arcadia still has to abide to the laws of Battleworld (as in, laws of [[spoiler:SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom]]) and the comics seems to say that utopia in one place is worthless if [[CrapsackWorld the rest of the world is still hell]].

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* MarySuetopia: Arcadia, a LadyLand that's part of the world replacing Earth-616 after the destruction of the Marvel multiverse in the latest CrisisCrossover where women rule the world, is described as a "feminist paradise". However, first issue suggests it might be a subversion and Arcadia still has to abide to the laws of Battleworld (as in, laws of [[spoiler:SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom]]) [[spoiler:Doctor Doom]]) and the comics seems to say that utopia in one place is worthless if [[CrapsackWorld the rest of the world is still hell]].

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