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** During ''ComicBook/WarOfTheRealms'', the ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan recruits the latest incarnation of the West Coast Avengers to aid him as he has plans to bring the war to an end. Gwenpool has to convince him that, in actuality, he’s the HeroOfAnotherStory and they should just focus on saving Los Angeles.
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* Goofy from ''ComicBook/MickeyMouse'' can fall into this in some comics. He does NOT believe in magic, and there is no way to persuade him to do so. He would be right in a completely realistic setting, but his setting is only semi-realistic and magic does exist. Also, he can sometimes be proven right, which enforces his beliefs.

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* Goofy from ''ComicBook/MickeyMouse'' ''[[ComicBook/MickeyMouseComicUniverse Mickey Mouse]]'' can fall into this in some comics. He does NOT believe in magic, and there is no way to persuade him to do so. He would be right in a completely realistic setting, but his setting is only semi-realistic and magic does exist. Also, he can sometimes be proven right, which enforces his beliefs.
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* ''ComicBook/MarvelZombies'': As depicted in ''Dead Days'', a lot of the Superheroes early on seemed to believe that this Zombie plague is just the latest in a series of [[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed constant crises]] and that eventually things will get back to normal, as is often the case in [[StatusQuoIsGod in the main universe]]. Pre-Zombie!Spider-Man rescues Ash and points out that his friends will have a hard enough time dealing with what they have done ''when'', not ''if'', they get back to normal, while an actually Zombified Colonel America manages to regain his composure briefly and insist they get help. If this had been the mainstream universe, they would be absolutely right, but alas, this is an {{Elseworlds}} tale. Only Richard Rider, Nova, is willing to point out how many they've already lost while only now working on a plan of attack during a group scene on the Helicarrier, explicitly claiming they are all doomed.

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* ''ComicBook/MarvelZombies'': As depicted in ''Dead Days'', a lot of the Superheroes early on seemed to believe that this Zombie plague is just the latest in a series of [[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed constant crises]] and that eventually things will get back to normal, as is often the case in [[StatusQuoIsGod in the main universe]]. Pre-Zombie!Spider-Man rescues Ash and points out that his friends will have a hard enough time dealing with what they have done ''when'', not ''if'', they get back to normal, while an actually Zombified Colonel America manages to regain his composure briefly and insist they get help. If this had been the mainstream universe, they would be absolutely right, but alas, this is an {{Elseworlds}} tale. Only Richard Rider, Nova, is willing to point out how many they've already lost while only now working on a plan of attack during a group scene on the Helicarrier, explicitly claiming they are all doomed.
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* Goofy from ''ComicBook/MickeyMouse'' can fall into this in some comics. He does NOT believe in magic, and there is no way to persuade him to do so. He would be right in a completely realistic setting, but his setting is only semi-realistic and magic does exist. Also, he can sometimes be proven right, which enforces his beliefs.

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* ''Comicbook/{{Fables}}'': A journalist discovers that certain New York residents seem to have been living for centuries without aging. He believes them to be vampires. The residents of Fabletown decide to play along and convince him he was mind-controlled by them and forced to have sex with an UndeadChild (in reality they knocked him out and took some suggestive photos with him and Pinocchio) and if he tells anybody their secret, they'll send the evidence to the police.



* ''Comicbook/{{Fables}}'': A journalist discovers that certain New York residents seem to have been living for centuries without aging. He believes them to be vampires. The residents of Fabletown decide to play along and convince him he was mind-controlled by them and forced to have sex with an UndeadChild (in reality they knocked him out and took some suggestive photos with him and Pinocchio) and if he tells anybody their secret, they'll send the evidence to the police.

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* ''Comicbook/{{Fables}}'': A journalist discovers ''ComicBook/{{Joker}}'': The primary POV character is a two-bit crook named Jonny Frost, who joins the newly-released Joker as he attempts to rebuild his criminal empire. Jonny's internal narration shows he thinks of himself as Joker's NumberTwo, that certain New York residents seem he's finally found his ticket to the big time as the right-hand man to the soon-be-biggest crime lord in Gotham. It's abundantly clear, however, to both the reader and the other criminals in Joker's employ, that Jonny is somewhere between a glorified driver and on-demand audience for the Joker's sick crimes, and he realizes far, far too late that he's living with a psychotic serial killer who won't hesitate to murder him as soon as it's convenient. [[spoiler: [[DownerEnding Which he does]]]].
* ''ComicBook/MarvelZombies'': As depicted in ''Dead Days'', a lot of the Superheroes early on seemed to believe that this Zombie plague is just the latest in a series of [[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed constant crises]] and that eventually things will get back to normal, as is often the case in [[StatusQuoIsGod in the main universe]]. Pre-Zombie!Spider-Man rescues Ash and points out that his friends will have a hard enough time dealing with what they have done ''when'', not ''if'', they get back to normal, while an actually Zombified Colonel America manages to regain his composure briefly and insist they get help. If this had been the mainstream universe, they would be absolutely right, but alas, this is an {{Elseworlds}} tale. Only Richard Rider, Nova, is willing to point out how many they've already lost while only now working on a plan of attack during a group scene on the Helicarrier, explicitly claiming they are all doomed.
%%* ''ComicBook/RequiemVampireKnight'': Sean is a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent lamia]] [[KnightInShiningArmor knight]] that leads LaResistance against {{Dracula}}'s corrupt and oppressive regime in {{Hell}}. He is fighting to free innocents and for the woman he loves and one of the enemies he fight with is a Nazi turned vampire. In any other story he would easily
have been living for centuries without aging. He believes them to be vampires. The residents of Fabletown decide to play along and convince him TheHero but alas, he was mind-controlled by them and forced to have sex with an UndeadChild (in reality they knocked him out and took some suggestive photos with him and Pinocchio) and if he tells anybody their secret, they'll send is just a HeroAntagonist where previously mentioned [[NaziProtagonist Nazi is the evidence to the police.main character]].



%%* ''ComicBook/RequiemVampireKnight'': Sean is a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent lamia]] [[KnightInShiningArmor knight]] that leads LaResistance against {{Dracula}}'s corrupt and oppressive regime in {{Hell}}. He is fighting to free innocents and for the woman he loves and one of the enemies he fight with is a Nazi turned vampire. In any other story he would easily have been TheHero but alas, he is just a HeroAntagonist where previously mentioned [[NaziProtagonist Nazi is the main character]].
* ''ComicBook/MarvelZombies'': As depicted in ''Dead Days'', a lot of the Superheroes early on seemed to believe that this Zombie plague is just the latest in a series of [[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed constant crises]] and that eventually things will get back to normal, as is often the case in [[StatusQuoIsGod in the main universe]]. Pre-Zombie!Spider-Man rescues Ash and points out that his friends will have a hard enough time dealing with what they have done ''when'', not ''if'', they get back to normal, while an actually Zombified Colonel America manages to regain his composure briefly and insist they get help. If this had been the mainstream universe, they would be absolutely right, but alas, this is an {{Elseworlds}} tale. Only Richard Rider, Nova, is willing to point out how many they've already lost while only now working on a plan of attack during a group scene on the Helicarrier, explicitly claiming they are all doomed.
* ''ComicBook/{{Joker}}'': The primary POV character is a two-bit crook named Jonny Frost, who joins the newly-released Joker as he attempts to rebuild his criminal empire. Jonny's internal narration shows he thinks of himself as Joker's NumberTwo, that he's finally found his ticket to the big time as the right-hand man to the soon-be-biggest crime lord in Gotham. It's abundantly clear, however, to both the reader and the other criminals in Joker's employ, that Jonny is somewhere between a glorified driver and on-demand audience for the Joker's sick crimes, and he realizes far, far too late that he's living with a psychotic serial killer who won't hesitate to murder him as soon as it's convenient. [[spoiler: [[DownerEnding Which he does]]]].


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* ''ComicBook/WhenTheWindBlows'': Jim and Hilda think the coming nuclear war will be like World War II, which evokes memories of living through the war and even still thinking [[UsefulNotes/BernardLawMontgomery Monty is head of the British military]]. They quickly learn the hard way this is not true [[spoiler: dying in the end painfully from radiation poisoning]].
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* ''ComicBook/{{Joker}}'': The primary POV character is a two-bit crook named Jonny Frost, who joins the newly-released Joker as he attempts to rebuild his criminal empire. Jonny's internal narration shows he thinks of himself as Joker's NumberTwo, that he's finally found his ticket to the big time as the right-hand man to the soon-be-biggest crime lord in Gotham. It's abundantly clear, however, to both the reader and the other criminals in Joker's employ, that Jonny is somewhere between a glorified driver and on-demand audience for the Joker's sick crimes, and he realizes far, far too late that he's living with a psychotic serial killer who won't hesitate to murder him as soon as it's convenient. [[spoiler: [[DownerEnding Which he does]]]].
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* In the second volume of ''ComicBook/TheInvisibles'', a redneck in a diner is giving Lord Fanny, a Brazilian transvestite shaman, a hard time. In response, King Mob grabs the man's groin ([[GroinAttack and not in a good way]]) and lectures the redneck that this is not a cowboy movie in which the redneck is the hero, but a horror film where he's the idiot who picks on a stranger who turns out to be a vampire or something. At first the redneck apologizes, but then he decides to attack King Mob anyway, and thus we get to witness [[MuggingTheMonster the other trope]] invoked by King Mob in his little speech.

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* In the second volume of ''ComicBook/TheInvisibles'', a redneck in a diner is giving Lord Fanny, a Brazilian transvestite transgender shaman, a hard time. In response, King Mob grabs the man's groin ([[GroinAttack and not in a good way]]) and lectures the redneck that this is not a cowboy movie in which the redneck is the hero, but a horror film where he's the idiot who picks on a stranger who turns out to be a vampire or something. At first the redneck apologizes, but then he decides to attack King Mob anyway, and thus we get to witness [[MuggingTheMonster the other trope]] invoked by King Mob in his little speech.
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* ''ComicBook/MarvelZombies'': As depicted in ''Dead Days'' , a lot of the Superheroes early on seemed to believe that this Zombie plague is just the latest in a series of [[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed constant crises]] and that eventually things will get back to normal, as is often the case in [[StatusQuoIsGod in the main universe]]. Pre-Zombie!Spider-Man rescues Ash and points out that his friends will have a hard enough time dealing with what they have done ''when'', not ''if'', they get back to normal, while an actually Zombified Colonel America manages to regain his composure briefly and insist they get help. If this had been the mainstream universe, they would be absolutely right, but alas, this is an {{Elseworlds}} tale. Only Richard Rider, Nova, is willing to point out how many they've already lost while only now working on a plan of attack during a group scene on the Helicarrier, explicitly claiming they are all doomed.

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* ''ComicBook/MarvelZombies'': As depicted in ''Dead Days'' , Days'', a lot of the Superheroes early on seemed to believe that this Zombie plague is just the latest in a series of [[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed constant crises]] and that eventually things will get back to normal, as is often the case in [[StatusQuoIsGod in the main universe]]. Pre-Zombie!Spider-Man rescues Ash and points out that his friends will have a hard enough time dealing with what they have done ''when'', not ''if'', they get back to normal, while an actually Zombified Colonel America manages to regain his composure briefly and insist they get help. If this had been the mainstream universe, they would be absolutely right, but alas, this is an {{Elseworlds}} tale. Only Richard Rider, Nova, is willing to point out how many they've already lost while only now working on a plan of attack during a group scene on the Helicarrier, explicitly claiming they are all doomed.
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** When Gwenpool encounters ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}, she says out loud that she'll be able to kill him because this is her book and she has PlotArmor. When Wade hears this, he figures out what's going on immediately and gives her a terrible TheReasonYouSuckSpeech that points out how out of her league she is with him because his Plot Armor is ''much'' stronger'' than hers.

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** When Gwenpool encounters ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}, she says out loud that she'll be able to kill him because this is her book and she has PlotArmor. When Wade hears this, he figures out what's going on immediately and gives her a terrible TheReasonYouSuckSpeech that points out how out of her league she is with him because his Plot Armor is ''much'' stronger'' stronger than hers.



* ''ComicBook/MarvelZombies'': As depicted in ''Dead Days'' , a lot of the Superheroes early on seemed to believe that this Zombie plague is just the latest in a series of [[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed constant crises]] and that eventually things will get back to normal, as is often the case in [[StatusQuoIsGod in the main universe]] . Pre-Zombie!Spider-Man rescues Ash and points out that his friends will have a hard enough time dealing with what they have done ''when'', not ''if'', they get back to normal, while an actually Zombified Colonel America manages to regain his composure briefly and insist they get help. If this had been the mainstream universe, they would be absolutely right, but alas, this is an {{Elseworlds}} tale. Only Richard Rider, Nova, is willing to point out how many they've already lost while only now working on a plan of attack during a group scene on the Helicarrier, explicitly claiming they are all doomed.

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* ''ComicBook/MarvelZombies'': As depicted in ''Dead Days'' , a lot of the Superheroes early on seemed to believe that this Zombie plague is just the latest in a series of [[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed constant crises]] and that eventually things will get back to normal, as is often the case in [[StatusQuoIsGod in the main universe]] .universe]]. Pre-Zombie!Spider-Man rescues Ash and points out that his friends will have a hard enough time dealing with what they have done ''when'', not ''if'', they get back to normal, while an actually Zombified Colonel America manages to regain his composure briefly and insist they get help. If this had been the mainstream universe, they would be absolutely right, but alas, this is an {{Elseworlds}} tale. Only Richard Rider, Nova, is willing to point out how many they've already lost while only now working on a plan of attack during a group scene on the Helicarrier, explicitly claiming they are all doomed.
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** Gwenpool hits this again in her own book when she encounters ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}. She says, out loud, that she'll be able to kill him because this is her book and she has PlotArmor. When Wade hears this, he figures out what's going on immediately and gives her a terrible TheReasonYouSuckSpeech that points out how out of her league she is with him because his Plot Armor is ''much'' stronger'' than hers.

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** When Gwenpool hits this again in her own book when she encounters ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}. She says, ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}, she says out loud, loud that she'll be able to kill him because this is her book and she has PlotArmor. When Wade hears this, he figures out what's going on immediately and gives her a terrible TheReasonYouSuckSpeech that points out how out of her league she is with him because his Plot Armor is ''much'' stronger'' than hers.
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** Gwenpool hits this again in her own book when she encounters SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}. She says, out loud, that she'll be able to kill him because this is her book and she has PlotArmor. When Wade hears this, he figures out what's going on immediately and gives her a terrible TheReasonYouSuckSpeech that points out how out of her league she is with him because his Plot Armor is ''much'' stronger'' than hers.

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** Gwenpool hits this again in her own book when she encounters SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}.ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}. She says, out loud, that she'll be able to kill him because this is her book and she has PlotArmor. When Wade hears this, he figures out what's going on immediately and gives her a terrible TheReasonYouSuckSpeech that points out how out of her league she is with him because his Plot Armor is ''much'' stronger'' than hers.
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* ''ComicBook/MarvelZombies'': As depicted in ''Dead Days'' , a lot of the Superheroes early on seemed to believe that this Zombie plague is just the latest in a series of [[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed constant crises]] and that eventually things will get back to normal, as is often the case in [[StatusQuoIsGod in the main universe]] . Pre-Zombie!Spider-Man rescues Ash and points out that his friends will have a hard enough time dealing with what they have done ''when'', not ''if'', they get back to normal, while an actually Zombified Colonel America manages to regain his composure briefly and insist they get help. If this had been the mainstream universe, they would be absolutely right, but alas, this is an {{Elseworlds}} tale. Only Richard Rider, Nova, is willing to point out how many they've already lost while only now working on a plan of attack during a group scene on the Helicarrier, explicitly claiming they are all doomed.
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-->'''Deadpool:''' I've had hundreds of issues. I don't know how many series. I guest appear ''everywhere''. Comics, [[VideoGame/{{Deadpool}} video games]], TV shows, and lets's not forget, [[Film/{{Deadpool}} the highest grossing R-Rated film of all time]]. You however, first appeared as a back-up in ''Comicbook/HowardTheDuck'' because they weren't sure if anyone would like you. You are the last person who can kill me.

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-->'''Deadpool:''' I've had hundreds of issues. I don't know how many series. I guest appear ''everywhere''. Comics, [[VideoGame/{{Deadpool}} video games]], TV shows, and lets's not forget, [[Film/{{Deadpool}} [[Film/Deadpool2016 the highest grossing R-Rated film of all time]]. You however, first appeared as a back-up in ''Comicbook/HowardTheDuck'' because they weren't sure if anyone would like you. You are the last person who can kill me.
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* In ''ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW'', this is called out as the problem with Spike Witwicky: he's convinced that he's an action movie hero, and as such tends to make the kind of selfish, impulsive decisions that action movie heroes make all the time and almost never get called out on, like taking a Cybertronian with a single RestrainingBolt applied out for a drive. Meanwhile, his [[{{Nepotism}} high-ranking dad]] shields him from ever facing consequences.
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* In ''ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW'', this is called out as the problem with Spike Witwicky: he's convinced that he's an action movie hero, and as such tends to make the kind of selfish, impulsive decisions that action movie heroes make all the time and almost never get called out on, like taking a Cybertronian with a single RestrainingBolt applied out for a drive. Meanwhile, his [[{{Nepotism}} high-ranking dad]] shields him from ever facing consequences.
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** Gwen does manage to turn it out around by questioning that [[ArmorPiercingQuestion if Deadpool was so savvy, why is he letting himself be strung along by a C-Lister like Arcade?]] Deadpool is caught flat-footed before realizing that she's right (and that she's only a high-schooler.)

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-->'''[[spoiler:Deadpool]]:''' [[spoiler:I've had hundreds of issues. I don't know how many series. I guest appear ''everywhere''. Comics, [[VideoGame/{{Deadpool}} video games]], TV shows, and lets's not forget, [[Film/{{Deadpool}} the highest grossing R-Rated film of all time]]. You however, first appeared as a back-up in ''Comicbook/HowardTheDuck'' because they weren't sure if anyone would like you]]. You are the last person who can kill me.

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-->'''[[spoiler:Deadpool]]:''' [[spoiler:I've -->'''Deadpool:''' I've had hundreds of issues. I don't know how many series. I guest appear ''everywhere''. Comics, [[VideoGame/{{Deadpool}} video games]], TV shows, and lets's not forget, [[Film/{{Deadpool}} the highest grossing R-Rated film of all time]]. You however, first appeared as a back-up in ''Comicbook/HowardTheDuck'' because they weren't sure if anyone would like you]].you. You are the last person who can kill me.
** Gwen does manage to turn it out around by questioning that [[ArmorPiercingQuestion if Deadpool was so savvy, why is he letting himself be strung along by a C-Lister like Arcade?]] Deadpool is caught flat-footed before realizing that she's right (and that she's only a high-schooler.)

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-->'''[[spoiler:Deadpool]]:''' [[spoiler:I've had hundreds of issues. I don't know how many series. I guest appear '''everywhere'''. Comics, [[VideoGame/{{Deadpool}} video games]], TV shows, and lets's not forget, [[Film/{{Deadpool}} the highest grossing R-Rated film of all time]]. You however, first appeared as a back-up in ''Comicbook/HowardTheDuck'' because they weren't sure if anyone would like you]]. You are the last person who can kill me.
** However, she then exploits ''his'' GenreSavvy by asking him an ArmorPiercingQuestion; it also shows the differences in the their various levels of saavyness and how Gwen uses hers. (Deadpool not only admits she's right, but he is a bit ashamed he nearly killed a high schooler):
--> '''Gwen:''' If you're so ''powerful''... If you know all this... ''stuff''... Then ''why'' are you trapped by ''Arcade?'' Why are you ''playing out this story?''
** '''''Frighteningly inverted''''' with Future Gwen. A BadFuture version of herself, she [[spoiler: at some point,experienced an event that embittered her to heroes and she proceeded to ''out'' Miles Morales before starting a ''third Civil War'' by revealing all their secrets, ''just because it might be '''funny.''''']]

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-->'''[[spoiler:Deadpool]]:''' [[spoiler:I've had hundreds of issues. I don't know how many series. I guest appear '''everywhere'''.''everywhere''. Comics, [[VideoGame/{{Deadpool}} video games]], TV shows, and lets's not forget, [[Film/{{Deadpool}} the highest grossing R-Rated film of all time]]. You however, first appeared as a back-up in ''Comicbook/HowardTheDuck'' because they weren't sure if anyone would like you]]. You are the last person who can kill me. \n** However, she then exploits ''his'' GenreSavvy by asking him an ArmorPiercingQuestion; it also shows the differences in the their various levels of saavyness and how Gwen uses hers. (Deadpool not only admits she's right, but he is a bit ashamed he nearly killed a high schooler):\n--> '''Gwen:''' If you're so ''powerful''... If you know all this... ''stuff''... Then ''why'' are you trapped by ''Arcade?'' Why are you ''playing out this story?''\n** '''''Frighteningly inverted''''' with Future Gwen. A BadFuture version of herself, she [[spoiler: at some point,experienced an event that embittered her to heroes and she proceeded to ''out'' Miles Morales before starting a ''third Civil War'' by revealing all their secrets, ''just because it might be '''funny.''''']]
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** '''''Frighteningly inverted''''' with Future Gwen. A BadFuture version of herself, she [[spoiler: at some point,experienced an event that embittered her to heroes and she proceeded to ''out'' Miles Morales out before starting a ''third Civil War'' by revealing all their secrets, ''just because it might be '''funny.''''']]

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** '''''Frighteningly inverted''''' with Future Gwen. A BadFuture version of herself, she [[spoiler: at some point,experienced an event that embittered her to heroes and she proceeded to ''out'' Miles Morales out before starting a ''third Civil War'' by revealing all their secrets, ''just because it might be '''funny.''''']]
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* ''ComicBook/TheUnbelievableGwenpool'' is a human girl from our world (or somewhere in the Marvel multiverse that's similar) that likes comics and is sucked into the mainstream Marvel Universe. So, she know many of the tropes relative to superhero comics but sometimes this can backfire her.

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* ''ComicBook/TheUnbelievableGwenpool'' is a human girl from our world (or somewhere in the Marvel multiverse that's similar) that likes comics and is sucked into the mainstream Marvel Universe. So, she know knows many of the tropes relative to superhero comics but sometimes this can backfire on her.

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** However, she then exploits ''his'' GenreSavvy by asking him an ArmorPiercingQuestion (it's also why she survives the encounter in the first place):

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** However, she then exploits ''his'' GenreSavvy by asking him an ArmorPiercingQuestion (it's ArmorPiercingQuestion; it also why she survives shows the encounter differences in the first place):their various levels of saavyness and how Gwen uses hers. (Deadpool not only admits she's right, but he is a bit ashamed he nearly killed a high schooler):

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