History WhatMeasureIsAMook / AnimeAndManga

15th Dec '15 11:52:26 PM tdwally
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** Invoked during the WarArc. Naruto sends his (expendable and ultimately fleeting) shadow clones to each of the war's fronts. When a massive attack ravages the Fourth Division, a clone gets angry over how a Cloud ninja saved him over an actual person. The Cloud ninja justifies himself by pointing out they need the clone far more than any random RedShirt he could have saved.
28th Nov '15 1:26:37 PM nombretomado
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* Commander Sazabi's troops in ''SDGundamForce'' may apply in a far less spoken version. [[MechaMooks The Zako Soldiers]], by far considered the series most innocent mooks never die on screen, and are simply cast aside. The more malicious Dark Axis troops are not as fortunate, however, and very clearly explode. Tallgeese's Pawn Leos fall into a middle ground, in that they enjoy what they do, but are as [[TheWoobie Woobie-like]] as the Zakos, and aren't said to actually die when defeated.

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* Commander Sazabi's troops in ''SDGundamForce'' ''Anime/SDGundamForce'' may apply in a far less spoken version. [[MechaMooks The Zako Soldiers]], by far considered the series most innocent mooks never die on screen, and are simply cast aside. The more malicious Dark Axis troops are not as fortunate, however, and very clearly explode. Tallgeese's Pawn Leos fall into a middle ground, in that they enjoy what they do, but are as [[TheWoobie Woobie-like]] as the Zakos, and aren't said to actually die when defeated.
3rd Nov '15 1:45:27 PM Willbyr
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* Rin Asano from ''BladeOfTheImmortal'' outright admits, after many adventures, some pretty deep questions concerning mortality and what taking another human's life actually means, as well as the issues concerning fighting for the sake of another human's life, that she values [[TheBodyguard Manji]]'s life higher than the lives of any number of strangers. Due to the nature of story primarily dealing in GreyAndGreyMorality perspectives with plenty of humanizing characterisation of villains, by the time she says this, the statement doesn't come across as either good or bad, but simply very human.

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* Rin Asano from ''BladeOfTheImmortal'' ''Manga/BladeOfTheImmortal'' outright admits, after many adventures, some pretty deep questions concerning mortality and what taking another human's life actually means, as well as the issues concerning fighting for the sake of another human's life, that she values [[TheBodyguard Manji]]'s life higher than the lives of any number of strangers. Due to the nature of story primarily dealing in GreyAndGreyMorality perspectives with plenty of humanizing characterisation of villains, by the time she says this, the statement doesn't come across as either good or bad, but simply very human.
13th Aug '15 11:57:10 AM Willbyr
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* In an early arc of ''ZombieLoan'' there was a woman turned into a zombie minion and subsequently re-killed. Cue the end of the arc where the main characters attend her funeral, and one of the characters saying something along the lines of "When someone dies, someone always cries for them."

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* In an early arc of ''ZombieLoan'' ''Manga/ZombieLoan'' there was a woman turned into a zombie minion and subsequently re-killed. Cue the end of the arc where the main characters attend her funeral, and one of the characters saying something along the lines of "When someone dies, someone always cries for them."


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2nd Aug '15 9:49:33 AM nombretomado
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* Lampshaded and subverted in ''{{Gundam SEED}}'' when [[spoiler:Nicol]] is killed and the good guys are cheering over their victory. Kira then becomes angry that they are celebrating someones death only to have one of the crew point out that he has killed a lot of people up to this point and didn't care. This had never occured to Kira until now and afterwards vows to not kill a single person in battle which [[WillingSuspensionofDisbelief he takes to an insane degree]] considering some of the weapons on the Freedom Gundam. [[spoiler:This is used against him to great effect by Shinn in ''{{Gundam SEED Destiny}}''.]]
* In ''{{Gundam 00}}'' Setsuna spares [[spoiler:Graham/Mr. Bushido]] after defeating him in combat, and then convinces him to not commit seppuku. This is someone who says, "Setsuna F. Seie. Eliminating/Exterminating target" before going into combat and then proceeds to, well, do a pretty good job at exterminating his targets. This might be because [[spoiler:Graham's/Mr. Bushido]]'s monologue where he calls out Celestial Being for the deaths of his brothers-in-arms sent Setsuna on a guilt trip.

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* Lampshaded and subverted in ''{{Gundam SEED}}'' ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' when [[spoiler:Nicol]] is killed and the good guys are cheering over their victory. Kira then becomes angry that they are celebrating someones death only to have one of the crew point out that he has killed a lot of people up to this point and didn't care. This had never occured occurred to Kira until now and afterwards vows to not kill a single person in battle which [[WillingSuspensionofDisbelief he takes to an insane degree]] considering some of the weapons on the Freedom Gundam. [[spoiler:This is used against him to great effect by Shinn in ''{{Gundam SEED Destiny}}''.''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny''.]]
* In ''{{Gundam 00}}'' ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'' Setsuna spares [[spoiler:Graham/Mr. Bushido]] after defeating him in combat, and then convinces him to not commit seppuku. This is someone who says, "Setsuna F. Seie. Eliminating/Exterminating target" before going into combat and then proceeds to, well, do a pretty good job at exterminating his targets. This might be because [[spoiler:Graham's/Mr. Bushido]]'s monologue where he calls out Celestial Being for the deaths of his brothers-in-arms sent Setsuna on a guilt trip.
26th Jun '15 10:34:33 AM KamenRiderOokalf
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* ''ScienceNinjaTeamGatchaman'' and its translations. Played straight, subverted, played with... oddly enough, the mook that shows the picture of his family survives. [[spoiler:But he's still back in prison serving a life sentence.]]

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* ''ScienceNinjaTeamGatchaman'' ''Anime/ScienceNinjaTeamGatchaman'' and its translations. Played straight, subverted, played with... oddly enough, the mook that shows the picture of his family survives. [[spoiler:But he's still back in prison serving a life sentence.]]
12th Jun '15 7:40:46 PM nombretomado
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* Averted in ''{{Grenadier}}'' with Rushuna Tendou, who is Vash's DistaffCounterpart. She offers everyone she meets a smile and a hug and if they try with all their might to kill her, no matter who, she sticks to her ultimate strategy of "taking away the enemy's will to fight", which involves not killing them. It doesn't work, [[MarshmallowHell it being what it is]].

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* Averted in ''{{Grenadier}}'' ''Anime/{{Grenadier}}'' with Rushuna Tendou, who is Vash's DistaffCounterpart. She offers everyone she meets a smile and a hug and if they try with all their might to kill her, no matter who, she sticks to her ultimate strategy of "taking away the enemy's will to fight", which involves not killing them. It doesn't work, [[MarshmallowHell it being what it is]].
17th May '15 3:25:14 PM Vivvav
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** Generally speaking, the Straw Hats don't really care what happens to the mooks they blast through. It's less about them not having a code against killing (they don't), these people just aren't worth their time to check and see if they've been finished off. Out of the way is out of the way. Villains usually live through their encounters with the Straw Hats, because in One Piece having your dreams shattered is a fate worse than death. However, the Straw Hats try as hard as they can not to hurt innocent people, even people who have been tricked into antagonizing them, and will go out of their way not to fatally wound angry mobs.

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** Generally speaking, the Straw Hats don't really care what happens to the mooks they blast through. It's less about them not having a code against killing (they don't), these people just aren't worth their time to check and see if they've been finished off. Out of the way is out of the way. Villains usually live through their encounters with the Straw Hats, because in One Piece having your dreams shattered is a fate worse than death. However, the Straw Hats try as hard as they can not to hurt innocent people, even people who have been tricked into antagonizing them, and will go out of their way not to fatally wound angry mobs. Generally their first instinct is to flee from an attacking force if there's no need to see them defeated.
17th May '15 3:23:55 PM Vivvav
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** Generally speaking, the Straw Hats don't really care what happens to the mooks they blast through. It's less about them not having a code against killing (they don't), these people just aren't worth their time to check and see if they've been finished off. Out of the way is out of the way. Villains usually live through their encounters with the Straw Hats, because in One Piece having your dreams shattered is a fate worse than death. However, the Straw Hats try as hard as they can not to hurt innocent people, even people who have been tricked into antagonizing them, and will go out of their way not to fatally wound angry mobs.
17th May '15 1:13:36 PM potatokingmike
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* Simultaneously averted and played straight in ''Anime/TokyoGhoul'', where Kaneki has no qualms about killing members of Aogiri(in the manga, that is), but is awfully lenient towards low level CCG investigators.
**The rest of the cast, however, have no issues killing the other species, and even their own, in the case of the ghouls.
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