History WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids / Literature

18th Dec '16 12:06:44 AM DalekExterminer
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* YoungAdult books deserve to be mentioned as well. Many assume that the fact that "young" is in the name and the fact that they generally contain teenage protagonists mean that they're kid-friendly. But books classed as Young Adult regularly feature such subjects as sex, drugs, alcoholism, rape, physical and mental abuse, and the like, as well as often having pretty strong language (up to the f-word in some books).

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* YoungAdult books deserve to be mentioned as well. Many assume that the fact that "young" is in the name and the fact that they generally contain teenage protagonists mean that they're kid-friendly. But books classed as Young Adult regularly feature such subjects as sex, drugs, alcoholism, rape, suicide, physical and mental abuse, and the like, as well as often having pretty strong language (up to the f-word in some books).
12th Dec '16 5:23:42 PM DalekExterminer
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* [[YoungAdult]] books deserve to be mentioned as well. Many assume that the fact that "young" is in the name and the fact that they generally contain teenage protagonists mean that they're kid-friendly. But books classed as Young Adult regularly feature such subjects as sex, drugs, alcoholism, rape, physical and mental abuse, and the like, as well as often having pretty strong language (up to the f-word in some books).

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* [[YoungAdult]] YoungAdult books deserve to be mentioned as well. Many assume that the fact that "young" is in the name and the fact that they generally contain teenage protagonists mean that they're kid-friendly. But books classed as Young Adult regularly feature such subjects as sex, drugs, alcoholism, rape, physical and mental abuse, and the like, as well as often having pretty strong language (up to the f-word in some books).
12th Dec '16 5:22:49 PM DalekExterminer
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* For some reason, possibly because like many current [=YA=] titles it features young female protagonists in a dystopian future, ''Literature/TheQueenOfTheTearling'' keeps getting listed under young adult. And yet, with topics popping up such as rape, murder, mass murder (including of children), child rape, infant rape, prostitution, forced prostitution, and torture, this book is often compared to ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire''.

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* For some reason, possibly because like many current [=YA=] [[YoungAdult YA]] titles it features young female protagonists in a dystopian future, ''Literature/TheQueenOfTheTearling'' keeps getting listed under young adult. And yet, with topics popping up such as rape, murder, mass murder (including of children), child rape, infant rape, prostitution, forced prostitution, and torture, this book is often compared to ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire''.
12th Dec '16 5:20:35 PM DalekExterminer
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* [[YoungAdult]] books deserve to be mentioned as well. Many assume that the fact that "young" is in the name and the fact that they generally contain teenage protagonists mean that they're kid-friendly. But books classed as Young Adult regularly feature such subjects as sex, drugs, alcoholism, rape, physical and mental abuse, and the like, as well as often having pretty strong language (up to the f-word in some books).
6th Dec '16 7:56:50 PM Kid
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* Creator/RosemaryWells who is well-known as the creator behind ''Literature/MaxAndRuby'', ''Literature/TimothyGoesToSchool'', the Yoko series, and Yoko & Friends, always makes children's books that star anthropomorphic animals. She also made other books without her signature animal illustrations such as "Red Moon" (Which is set during TheAmericanCivilWar) and "Through The Hidden Door" are geared towards older readers. Which explains why she doesn't do illustrations for those books along with "Helping Children Cope With Divorce" and "Helping Children Cope With Grief". Probably to avoid the situation Creator/RaymondBriggs did by [[ArtStyleDissonance using the same Illustrations]] for Literature/TheSnowman for his comic book ComicBook/WhenTheWindBlows.

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* Creator/RosemaryWells Creator/RosemaryWells, who is well-known as the creator behind ''Literature/MaxAndRuby'', ''Literature/TimothyGoesToSchool'', the Yoko series, and Yoko & Friends, always makes children's books that star anthropomorphic animals. She also made other books without her signature animal illustrations such as "Red Moon" (Which (which is set during TheAmericanCivilWar) and "Through The Hidden Door" Door", which are geared towards older readers. Which explains why she doesn't do illustrations for those books along with "Helping Children Cope With Divorce" and "Helping Children Cope With Grief". Probably to avoid the situation Creator/RaymondBriggs did by [[ArtStyleDissonance using the same Illustrations]] for Literature/TheSnowman for his comic book ComicBook/WhenTheWindBlows.
6th Dec '16 7:52:55 PM Kid
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* Some teachers in Germany have seventh-graders (so children who can be as young as 12) read ''Literature/{{Perfume}}'' by Patrick Süßkind. The book features a sociopathic serial killer as the protagonist, scenes of graphic violence, a mass orgy [[spoiler:induced by the titular perfume]] and ends with [[spoiler:The protagonist committing suicide by letting himself be cannibalized]]. Those teachers probably let themselves be fooled by the fact that TheMovie is rated 12, despite featuring scenes that could very well disturb a 12 or 13 year old, such as the bloody and painful portrayal of the birth of the protagonist.[[note]]In Austria it was given the rating 14, which does not exist in Germany [[/note]]. The book and movie are recommended by the ministry of education, but for grade 10, not only due to its portrayal of sex and violence, but also because most of the philosophical references and undertones, the reason it got a recommendation in the first place, would go right over a 7th graders head.

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* Some teachers in Germany have seventh-graders (so children who can be as young as 12) read ''Literature/{{Perfume}}'' by Patrick Süßkind. The book features a sociopathic serial killer as the protagonist, scenes of graphic violence, a mass orgy [[spoiler:induced by the titular perfume]] and ends with [[spoiler:The [[spoiler:the protagonist committing suicide by letting himself be cannibalized]]. Those teachers probably let themselves be fooled by the fact that TheMovie is rated 12, despite featuring scenes that could very well disturb a 12 or 13 year old, such as the bloody and painful portrayal of the birth of the protagonist.[[note]]In Austria it was given the rating 14, which does not exist in Germany [[/note]]. Germany[[/note]]. The book and movie are recommended by the ministry of education, but for grade 10, not only due to its portrayal of sex and violence, but also because most of the philosophical references and undertones, the reason it got a recommendation in the first place, would go right over a 7th graders grader's head.
6th Dec '16 7:51:26 PM Kid
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* Creator/JRRTolkien goes after this trope with both barrels in "Literature/OnFairyStories"

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* Creator/JRRTolkien goes after this trope with both barrels in "Literature/OnFairyStories""Literature/OnFairyStories".
12th Nov '16 5:43:19 AM PhysicsPhil
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* ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' - funny fantasy by the guy who wrote kids' books like the ''Literature/NomesTrilogy'' and ''Literature/JohnnyMaxwellTrilogy''? Well, ''maybe''. There probably isn't anything particularly scarring in there, and the language never gets worse than "shit" (and rarely above "bloody"), but [[Creator/TerryPratchett Sir Terry]] himself admitted to being perturbed when a class full of kids wrote him letters about ''Discworld/TheTruth'' and how much they liked the violent, would-be drug addict Mr Tulip. Of course, there are also ''Discworld'' novels that ''are'' aimed at kids: ''Discworld/TheAmazingMauriceAndHisEducatedRodents'' and the Tiffany Aching novels - although one might argue each Tiffany book isn't entirely suitable for kids younger than Tiffany at the time (''Discworld/IShallWearMidnight'' features mob justice for a child beater, and even in-story Tiffany's dad is uncomfortable telling her the backstory to that, as well as a being of pure hatred that poisons everyone against Tiffany - it's notable that ''Discworld/{{Wintersmith}}'' onwards lack the "compact hardback" editions of previous YA Discworld novels, appearing more like the adult books).

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* ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' - funny fantasy by the guy who wrote kids' books like the ''Literature/NomesTrilogy'' and ''Literature/JohnnyMaxwellTrilogy''? Well, ''maybe''. There probably isn't anything particularly scarring in there, and the language never gets worse than "shit" (and rarely above "bloody"), but [[Creator/TerryPratchett Sir Terry]] himself admitted to being perturbed when a class full of kids wrote him letters about ''Discworld/TheTruth'' and how much they liked the violent, would-be drug addict Mr Tulip. Also, many of the earlier books are directly riffing on other works, which themselves are not all suitable for children. Of course, there are also ''Discworld'' novels that ''are'' aimed at kids: ''Discworld/TheAmazingMauriceAndHisEducatedRodents'' and the Tiffany Aching novels - although one might argue each Tiffany book isn't entirely suitable for kids younger than Tiffany at the time (''Discworld/IShallWearMidnight'' features mob justice for a child beater, and even in-story Tiffany's dad is uncomfortable telling her the backstory to that, as well as a being of pure hatred that poisons everyone against Tiffany - it's notable that ''Discworld/{{Wintersmith}}'' onwards lack the "compact hardback" editions of previous YA Discworld novels, appearing more like the adult books).
2nd Nov '16 7:34:47 AM Prinzenick
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* Most [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Greek and Roman myths]] in their classical form. Ovid's [[Literature/TheMetamorphoses Metamorphoses]] have copious amounts of rape, gore, and cruelty.

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* Most [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Greek and Roman myths]] in their classical form. Ovid's [[Literature/TheMetamorphoses Metamorphoses]] have copious amounts of rape, gore, and cruelty.cruelty, which can easily take people off guard who are more familiar with the kid-friendly adaptations of the myths like Disney's ''Disney/{{Hercules}}''.
2nd Nov '16 7:30:11 AM Prinzenick
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* ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'' was a kid's movie, complete with a source-tribute opening song about "Arabian nights". But parents whose kids pester them for more of the same shouldn't touch ''[[Literature/ArabianNights A Thousand and One Nights]]'' with a ten foot pole, unless they want their children reading about forced marriage, infidelity, serial [[SesquipedalianLoquaciousness uxoricide]], and explicit descriptions of human anatomy ... and that's just in the ''frame story!'' Hopefully they'll catch on before Scheherazade starts rambling on about corpse-tearing ghouls, bestiality, or [[GagPenis penis humor]].

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* Disney's ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'' was a kid's movie, complete with a source-tribute opening song about "Arabian nights". But parents whose kids pester them for more of the same shouldn't touch ''[[Literature/ArabianNights A Thousand and One Nights]]'' with a ten foot pole, unless they want their children reading about forced marriage, infidelity, serial [[SesquipedalianLoquaciousness uxoricide]], and explicit descriptions of human anatomy ... and that's just in the ''frame story!'' Hopefully they'll catch on before Scheherazade starts rambling on about corpse-tearing ghouls, bestiality, or [[GagPenis penis humor]]. There's a lot of racist content and inherent ValuesDissonance in it, too.
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