History WhatCouldHaveBeen / ComicBooks

16th Feb '17 7:03:02 PM Pinokio
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* The Creator/ValiantComics ''Unity 2000'' mini-series was going to cross over and merge the [=VH1=] and [=VH2=] universes, and a third universe would be introduced and destroyed, showing potential ideas from before the [=VH2=] era. The mini-series was CutShort before its resolution.
9th Feb '17 8:21:26 PM comicwriter
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* The Comicbook/{{New 52}}-era almost saw the debut of a new villain named the Masochist, a blatant [[Literature/TheMillenniumTrilogy Lisbeth Salander]] {{Expy}} with an [[BondageIsBad S&M]] theme. Due to some InternetBackdraft she was renamed "Anguish" and had all of the fetish elements removed from her design.

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* The Comicbook/{{New 52}}-era almost saw the debut of a new villain named the Masochist, a who was a blatant [[Literature/TheMillenniumTrilogy Lisbeth Salander]] {{Expy}} with an [[BondageIsBad S&M]] theme. Due to some InternetBackdraft she was renamed "Anguish" and had all of the fetish elements removed from her design.
9th Feb '17 8:19:54 PM comicwriter
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* The Comicbook/{{New 52}}-era almost saw the debut of a new villain named the Masochist, a blatant [[Literature/TheMillenniumTrilogy Lisbeth Salander]] {{Expy}} with an [[BondageIsBad S&M]] theme. Due to some InternetBackdraft she was renamed "Anguish" and had all of the fetish elements removed from her design.
9th Feb '17 4:14:40 PM comicwriter
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* In 2011, Nick Spencer and Becky Cloonan were slated to do a {{Prequel}} mini-series called ''Victor Von Doom'', which would have focused on a teenage Comicbook/DoctorDoom as he traveled to Hell to try and save his mother's soul. Unfortunately, the book was cancelled by Marvel before the first issue was shipped.

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* In 2011, Nick Spencer and Becky Cloonan were slated to do a {{Prequel}} mini-series called ''Victor Von Doom'', which would have focused on a teenage Comicbook/DoctorDoom as he traveled to Hell to try and save his mother's soul. Unfortunately, the book was cancelled by Marvel right before the first issue was about to be shipped.
9th Feb '17 4:11:51 PM comicwriter
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** [[MultipleChoicePast This, however, contradits other things]] [[he and editor Bill Roseman have said about the book's origins]], like that the idea came from Creator/MarkWaid who was suppsoed to write the book but dropped off (something Waid himself denied) or that Tom Brevoort was one to introduce the idea to Hopeless, so take this example with a grain of salt.



* ''Comicbook/{{Princeless}}'' author Jeremy Whitley has said that at one point, he was slated to write a story starring America Chavez and Kate Bishop during ''Comicbook/SecretWars2015''. The story was shelved due to the characters being used in ''Siege'', though a similar story starring America and the {{Marvel 1602}} version of Kate was later published in the ''Secret Wars Too'' one-shot.

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* ''Comicbook/{{Princeless}}'' author Jeremy Whitley has said that at one point, he was slated to write a story starring America Chavez and Kate Bishop during for the ''Secret Love'' one-shot from ''Comicbook/SecretWars2015''. The story was shelved due to the characters being used in ''Siege'', though a similar story starring America and the {{Marvel 1602}} version of Kate was later published in the ''Secret Wars Too'' one-shot.



* Duncan Rosenblatt, the main character of ''Comicbook/{{Firebreather}}'', was originally conceived as a member of the Young Avengers. When plans fell through, his creator simply reused the concept at Creator/ImageComics. Had he been published by Marvel, Duncan's father would have been Fin Fang Foom.

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* Duncan Rosenblatt, the main character of ''Comicbook/{{Firebreather}}'', was originally conceived as a member part of the a Young Avengers.Avengers series. When plans fell through, his creator simply reused the concept at Creator/ImageComics. Had he been published by Marvel, Duncan's father would have been Fin Fang Foom.Foom.
* More specifically, the Young Avengers-type book would have been called ''The Crew'', with the cast consisting of teenage clones of Marvel heroes created by the A.I.M. organization.



* Creator/DanSlott had wanted Nightcrawler to be part of the team in his ''Comicbook/MightyAvengers'' run, but Creator/MattFraction denied him permission to use the character.

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* Creator/DanSlott had wanted Nightcrawler Comicbook/{{Nightcrawler}} to be part of the team in his ''Comicbook/MightyAvengers'' run, but Creator/MattFraction denied him permission to use the character.



* After ComicBook/{{Ares}} got killed, Jonathan Hickman wanted to resurrect him on the pages of ''ComicBook/SecretWarriors'', but Tom Breevort stopped him, saying it would be too early. Similarly, Breevort stopped several attempts at resurrecting ComicBook/TheWasp, knowing that Brian Michael Bendis, who killed the character, plans to bring her back in a story few years after her death.

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* After ComicBook/{{Ares}} got killed, Jonathan Hickman wanted to resurrect him on the pages of ''ComicBook/SecretWarriors'', but Tom Breevort stopped him, saying it would be too early. Similarly, Breevort stopped several attempts at resurrecting ComicBook/TheWasp, knowing that Brian Michael Bendis, who killed the character, plans planned to bring her back in a story few years after her death.



* Had ''Comicbook/AForce'' continued, the next arc would've been a team-up with an "A-list" Avenger, later revealed to be Black Widow, and would have seen Miss America Chavez join A-Force as the team's replacement for She-Hulk. The following arc would have revealed Dazzler was briefly the queen of an alien planet at some point, and her former subjects would now beg her to return.

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* Had ''Comicbook/AForce'' continued, the next arc would've been a team-up with an "A-list" Avenger, later revealed to be Black Widow, and would have seen Miss America Chavez Comicbook/AmericaChavez join A-Force as the team's replacement for She-Hulk. The following arc would have revealed Dazzler was briefly the queen of an alien planet at some point, and her former subjects would now beg her to return.
9th Feb '17 2:48:32 PM comicwriter
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* Bob Rozakis had intended to move Wonder Girl and Speedy to Titans West, while bringing Bat-Girl and another member to the east coast team. This would set up a love triangle between Bat-Girl, Robin, and Harlequin, with both girls vying for his attention. Speedy and Wonder Girl's relationship would also have been focused on a little more.

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* Bob Rozakis had intended to move Wonder Girl Comicbook/WonderGirl and Speedy to Titans West, while bringing Bat-Girl and another member to the east coast team. This would set up a love triangle between Bat-Girl, Robin, and Harlequin, with both girls vying for his attention. Speedy and Wonder Girl's relationship would also have been focused on a little more.
9th Feb '17 1:35:09 PM comicwriter
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* An odd case in the 1980s for ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'': According to Jim Starlin, back when the [=AIDS=] scare was the big thing, DC decided to have one of their characters be infected with the virus and die from it and set up a voting booth of sorts (Jim jokes that he stuffed it full of Robins). In the end, ''Comicbook/JimmyOlsen'' was chosen to be the victim. However, when someone pointed out that Jack Larson, the actor who played Jimmy in the [[Series/AdventuresOfSuperman 50's live-action show]] was gay, DC quickly got cold feet and scuttled the entire idea.

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* An odd case in the 1980s for ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'': According to Jim Starlin, back when the [=AIDS=] scare was the big thing, DC decided to have one of their characters be infected with the virus and die from it and set up a voting booth of sorts (Jim jokes that he stuffed it full of Robins). In the end, ''Comicbook/JimmyOlsen'' was chosen to be the victim. However, when someone pointed out that Jack Larson, the actor who played Jimmy in the [[Series/AdventuresOfSuperman [[Series/TheAdventuresOfSuperman 50's live-action show]] was gay, DC quickly got cold feet and scuttled the entire idea.
9th Feb '17 1:33:58 PM comicwriter
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* An odd case in the 1980s for ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'': According to Jim Starlin, back when the [=AIDS=] scare was the big thing, DC decided to have one of their characters be infected with the virus and die from it and set up a voting booth of sorts (Jim jokes that he stuffed it full of Robins). In the end, ''Jimmy Olsen'' was chosen to be the victim. However, when someone pointed out that one of the real-life actors that played Jimmy was gay, DC quickly got cold feet and scuttled the entire idea.

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* An odd case in the 1980s for ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'': According to Jim Starlin, back when the [=AIDS=] scare was the big thing, DC decided to have one of their characters be infected with the virus and die from it and set up a voting booth of sorts (Jim jokes that he stuffed it full of Robins). In the end, ''Jimmy Olsen'' ''Comicbook/JimmyOlsen'' was chosen to be the victim. However, when someone pointed out that one of Jack Larson, the real-life actors that actor who played Jimmy in the [[Series/AdventuresOfSuperman 50's live-action show]] was gay, DC quickly got cold feet and scuttled the entire idea.
9th Feb '17 1:29:37 PM comicwriter
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** The post-''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' DCU reboot used some concepts from this proposal (namely Superman having no red trunks, both Johnathan and Martha Kent being dead, and Lois and Clark's marriage being nonexistent), but the direction proved unpopular with fans, and the post-crisis, Lois and Clark were brought back

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** The post-''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' DCU reboot used some concepts from this proposal (namely Superman having no red trunks, both Johnathan and Martha Kent being dead, and Lois and Clark's marriage being nonexistent), but the nonexistent). The new direction proved unpopular with fans, and the post-crisis, post-Crisis Lois and Clark were subsequently brought backback.
9th Feb '17 1:28:25 PM comicwriter
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* [[Music/MyChemicalRomance Gerard Way]] almost did a ''Comicbook/DoomPatrol'' revamp with Becky Cloonan, but his music career got in the way.
** He was later able to do his series, sans Cloonan, but tweaked from the original pitch.

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* [[Music/MyChemicalRomance Gerard Way]] almost did and Becky Cloonan were slated to do a ''Comicbook/DoomPatrol'' revamp with Becky Cloonan, revamp, but his the project was delayed because of Way's music career got in career. While the way.
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series was later able to do his series, sans Cloonan, but eventually launched sometime later, it was tweaked from the original pitch.pitch, and Cloonan wasn't involved.



* It's well known among comic book geekdom that Kryptonite originally appeared in an episode of [[Radio/TheAdventuresOfSuperman the old Superman radio show]] called "The K-Metal From Krypton", before migrating to the comics. What's less well known is that it was adapted from an old Golden Age strip of the same name that never got made. At the time the script was written, Superman's established origin was that, instead of being raised by a loving foster family, he grew up in an orphanage, concepts such as Smallville, Lana Lang, the Kents and other now standard aspects of his backstory simply did not exist. As such, Clark Kent was for all practical purposes a day job Superman worked to pay the bills and a pair of glasses he would rip off at the earliest opportunity, therefore, Siegel decided early on to do away with Supermans' SecretIdentity altogether, feeling it was dead weight. In what would have been a massive shake-up of the status quo, Lois and Clark would have discovered Kryptonite and that Superman was an alien, Lois would have learned his secret identity and Superman would decide to just get rid of it. Clark Kent would cease to exist and Lois and Superman would become a crime solving/fighting team and a couple, with her as his BadassNormal detective sidekick/girlfriend. If that comic had been made imagine how the Superman mythos, and by extension the very concept of a superhero and popular culture in general would have changed. We'd be down [[ClarkKenting a trope]], and we'd have missed out on some good stories and [[Series/LoisAndClark TV shows]], and some [[Series/{{Smallville}} not so good ones]].

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* It's well known among comic book geekdom that Kryptonite originally appeared in an episode of [[Radio/TheAdventuresOfSuperman the old Superman radio show]] called "The K-Metal From Krypton", before migrating to the comics. What's less well known is that it was adapted from an old Golden Age strip of the same name that never got made. At the time the script was written, Superman's established origin was that, instead of being raised by a loving foster family, he grew up in an orphanage, concepts such as Smallville, Lana Lang, the Kents and other now standard aspects of his backstory simply did not exist. As such, Clark Kent was for all practical purposes a day job Superman worked to pay the bills and a pair of glasses he would rip off at the earliest opportunity, therefore, Siegel decided early on to do away with Supermans' SecretIdentity altogether, feeling it was dead weight. In what would have been a massive shake-up of the status quo, Lois and Clark would have discovered Kryptonite and that Superman was an alien, Lois would have learned his secret identity and Superman would decide to just get rid of it. Clark Kent would cease to exist and Lois and Superman would become a crime solving/fighting team and a couple, with her as his BadassNormal detective sidekick/girlfriend. If that comic had been made imagine how the Superman mythos, and by extension the very concept of a superhero and popular culture in general would have changed. We'd be down [[ClarkKenting a trope]], and we'd have missed out on some good stories and several [[Series/LoisAndClark TV shows]], and some TV]] [[Series/{{Smallville}} not so good ones]].shows]].


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* In 2011, Nick Spencer and Becky Cloonan were slated to do a {{Prequel}} mini-series called ''Victor Von Doom'', which would have focused on a teenage Comicbook/DoctorDoom as he traveled to Hell to try and save his mother's soul. Unfortunately, the book was cancelled by Marvel before the first issue was shipped.
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