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** The series finale. Aang does Avatar stuff and goes on a vision quest and consults with past Avatars and all that good stuff. Everyone tells him that he has to kill Ozai. [[ShootTheDog It's the Avatar's job to do things like this for the good of the world.]] Airbender Avatar Yangchen tells him that his duty as the Avatar comes before his teachings as an Airbender.\\
'''You'd expect''' Aang to take their advice. They never steered him wrong before and, as they have many many years of experience more than him, accept that they know better than he does, and kill Ozai.\\
'''Instead''' he ignores them all and risks the safety of the world to try and use Soulbending, coming dangerously close to having it backfire on him.\\
'''However''' it's rather hard to end a lifetime of [[TechnicalPacifist Technical Pacifism]], no matter how important it is. [[http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_153/4960-The-Anatomy-of-Violence One study]] found that ''enlisted, trained soldiers'' only had something like a 15% rate of actually shooting at the bad guys, much less a twelve year old who's only been fighting less than a year. While it is true that that 15% percentage rose to over 90% when military training methods were revised to include operant conditioning to overcome the default reluctance to kill on orders, Aang's never had that training.\\
'''Then again''', Aang has shown willingness to kill before, such as when the Earth general pretended to kill Katara and when he killed that buzzard/wasp thing when Appa was kidnapped. If he can get upset enough to kill over attempted murder, why can't he do the same over attempted '''''genocide'''''?\\
'''Because''', Aang knows that if he tries to fight Ozai in a blind rage, he's going to get rapidly torn apart. Ozai is too skilled an opponent to fight with anything less than total concentration -- which means Aang has to be able to kill as a conscious, reasoned decision, and not in a berserker fit. And he's just not emotionally capable of doing that.
** '''Also''', Aang ''was'' fully prepared to kill Ozai. He even resigned himself to do that after talking with his past lives. Until he knew he could Energy Bend, he was fully prepared to kill Ozai. It's not a WhatAnIdiot moment.
** '''Not really''', since he got a superb one-of-a-kind opportunity to end it all quickly with lightning redirecting, and
** '''Furthermore''' he is literally alone in the entire universe to be against killing Ozai: his best friends, his girlfriend, the son of the BigBad, FOUR old and wise spirits and even the gorram spirit of the world itself (who took over during the avatar state) wanted the bastard dead. And not a single soul had a problem with that. It really got silly, however, when Aang ask his past lives opinions and DISMISSED them because they're not what he WANTS to hear. Seriously WTF!?
** '''Actually''', only Yangchen outright told him to kill Ozai. The other three Avatars Aang consulted gave more ambiguous advice, like "be decisive" and stuff like that.
** '''And Let's Just Be Honest Here''', while ''Avatar'' is an excellent show that can cater to a bunch of demographics, it is largely aiming to be a kids show. And '''''no one''''' in that particular demographic wants to see an adorable twelve-year old murder a man in cold blood, regardless of his crimes.
** '''Uh''', TheBadGuyDies in ''plenty'' of children's books/shows/movies/games/fantasies. Especially fantasies. Most kids wouldn't be capable of the kind of complex reasoning exhibited on this page (and many others) anyway, so it would seem like even ''more'' of an AssPull to them than to us.
** '''Even So''' usually when they pull the bad guy dies in a children's show it's usually a death by the villain's own hubris. And further more TheHero is never the one to directly pull the trigger. The censors would have an absolute field day if that were to happen.
** '''But The Series Already''' took a lot of risks and did a lot of things you'd think the censors would, well, censor. And I'm not even talking about the stuff on the Radar page, which is more about sexual implications. For one thing, they showed ''the complete mental collapse of a fourteen-year-old''. The whole ''plot'' of the show revolves around genocide and imperialism, not to mention child abuse. What '''You'd Expect''' is for Ozai to save the lightning for later in the fight, and Aang to redirect it against him -- that should be enough [[KarmicDeath Ozai's]] [[HoistByHisOwnPetard fault]] to placate the censors, while not requiring a combination of DeusExMachina (the jutting rock, anyone?) and an EleventhHourSuperpower out of seemingly nowhere. It would probably be forgivable, though, if it were just another "decent" or "okay" cartoon...but for ''[[AvatarTheLastAirbender Avatar]]'', it was pretty out of character for the writers.
** '''May I Put In My Two Cents on The Above Arguments?''' First, yes, Aang was the only one against killing Ozai. But here's the thing: with the possible exception of the spirit of the world itself, ''the others weren't the ones pulling the trigger''. I think [[HarryPotter Dumbledore]] said it best: "Killing is not as easy as the innocent believe." Put that on top of said life of [[TechnicalPacifist Technical Pacifism]] and the fact that Aang is ''a twelve-year-old kid'', it's understandable that Aang would be hesitant to kill Ozai, [[CompleteMonster even if Ozai is a complete bastard]]. Second, to the argument that Aang should have ended it all quickly by killing Ozai, he knew another way to stop Ozai, even if it is a complete AssPull. Why would he kill when there's another way to render the threat of Ozai powerless? Third, while I can't explain the buzzard/wasp thing, it was the Avatar State spirit that was willing to kill the Earth General. Aang was, quite literally, on his hands and knees begging the Earth General to not kill Katara before he went into the Avatar state. Also, there's this good argument from FridgeBrilliance, though I don't know if Aang was thinking this: Quite, arguably, Aang killing the Firelord in the ''wrong'' way (basically any way that would have made Ozai the least bit of a martyr in the eyes of anyone in the Fire Nation who sympathized with him) would ''not'' have helped the world, but instead trigger a civil war within the Fire Nation, creating even ''more'' chaos and suffering in the world. So discrediting Ozai's warmongering by defeating him, neutralizing him and ''sparing his life'' may in fact have been the ''only'' way for the Avatar to restore the balance of the world. This troper agrees that Energybending ''should'' have been more foreshadowed, but she doesn't like the fact that people are bashing Aang [[ARealManIsAKiller for not killing someone in cold blood]]. Criticizing lack of foreshadowing of solution? Perfectly fine. Criticizing a character for not going against his morals, though he knows another way to stop the BigBad, therefore not needing to kill said BigBad? Not cool at all.

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'''Instead''' they shoot Jack down over ''a suburban area'', risking Jack and his WreathedInFlames sleigh landing on top of a house. Seriously, that's just ''asking'' for a death or lawsuit to happen.

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'''Instead''' they shoot Jack down over ''a suburban area'', risking Jack and his WreathedInFlames sleigh landing on top of a house. Seriously, that's just ''asking'' for a death or lawsuit to happen.\\
'''Nor''' do the military or police do anything to stop the toys from attacking the kids. It takes Santa to fix things. Seriously, what the hell?!
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'''You'd Expect''': Since lasers and other weapons were ineffective against the Neo Warriors, and that they regularly get into melee range, the engineers at Exofleet would counter with putting at least a combat knife, sword, mace, or laser cutter onto each frame to deal with close range combat.
'''Instead''': They continue to arm the Frames with the same old configuration, [[CurbStompBattle and in several battles the Exoframes are overwhelmed by superior numbers of Neo Warriors and don't have any real way to defend themselves, and get destroyed.]] Even worse when the Neo Lords are revealed.

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'''You'd **'''You'd Expect''': Since lasers and other weapons were ineffective against the Neo Warriors, and that they regularly get into melee range, the engineers at Exofleet would counter with putting at least a combat knife, sword, mace, or laser cutter onto each frame to deal with close range combat.
'''Instead''': **'''Instead''': They continue to arm the Frames with the same old configuration, [[CurbStompBattle and in several battles the Exoframes are overwhelmed by superior numbers of Neo Warriors and don't have any real way to defend themselves, and get destroyed.]] Even worse when the Neo Lords are revealed.
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* In ''{{Exosquad}}'', during the retaking of Australia, the Neo Saipens reveal their newest weapon of war-the Neo Warriors. Due to insane regeneration or durability, they can tank laser blasts and most explosions, and could get into melee range with the Frames and effortlessly destroy them. After narrowly escaping with their lives, Able Squad returns to Exofleet.
'''You'd Expect''': Since lasers and other weapons were ineffective against the Neo Warriors, and that they regularly get into melee range, the engineers at Exofleet would counter with putting at least a combat knife, sword, mace, or laser cutter onto each frame to deal with close range combat.
'''Instead''': They continue to arm the Frames with the same old configuration, [[CurbStompBattle and in several battles the Exoframes are overwhelmed by superior numbers of Neo Warriors and don't have any real way to defend themselves, and get destroyed.]] Even worse when the Neo Lords are revealed.
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'''However''' Iroh displays throughout the show what amounts to a [[ScoobySnacks tea addiction]]. He even uses firebending to heat tea, while pretending to be an Earth Kingdom refugee. So, still an idiotic thing to do, but expected.\\

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'''However''' Iroh displays throughout the show what amounts to a [[ScoobySnacks [[TrademarkFavoriteFood tea addiction]]. He even uses firebending to heat tea, while pretending to be an Earth Kingdom refugee. So, still an idiotic thing to do, but expected.\\
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** Another ''Hey Arnold!'' episode, "Arnold Betrays Iggy": While taking homework to the "Cool Kid of the School" Iggy who was sick that day, Arnold finds out that Iggy has an embarassing secret- he wears full-on bunny pajamas: cotton tail, bunny feet, and even big floppy ears. Iggy begs Arnold not to tell, and Arnold gives his word; however, Sid and Stinky find out due to really accurate conclusion-jumping and now Iggy is a laughing stock. Arnold feels guilty because Iggy thinks that he told and will never forgive him, even after Arnold profusedly apologized and told him that he didn't spill.\\

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** Another ''Hey Arnold!'' episode, "Arnold Betrays Iggy": While taking homework to the "Cool Kid of the School" Iggy who was sick that day, Arnold finds out that Iggy has an embarassing embarrassing secret- he wears full-on bunny pajamas: cotton tail, bunny feet, and even big floppy ears. Iggy begs Arnold not to tell, and Arnold gives his word; however, Sid and Stinky find out due to really accurate conclusion-jumping and now Iggy is a laughing stock. Arnold feels guilty because Iggy thinks that he told and will never forgive him, even after Arnold profusedly profusely apologized and told him that he didn't spill.\\



'''You'd Expect'''- Batman to just let this crime go. Hagen was an unwilling villain, blackmailed into crime by a corrupt businessman and unwittingly turned into a monster by the minions of the same businessman. Batman knows of Hagen's past and offered to help Hagen earlier in the same episode. Even if he couldn't justify letting the crime go, nothing stops him from letting him get cured ''then'' throw a non superpowered Hagen in jail. Besides, it wouldn't be the first time Bruce Wayne made a public show of supporting the rehibilitation of a criminal, having paid for the experimental surgery and therapies that would restore Harvey Dent to a normal life in "Second Chance"\\

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'''You'd Expect'''- Batman to just let this crime go. Hagen was an unwilling villain, blackmailed into crime by a corrupt businessman and unwittingly turned into a monster by the minions of the same businessman. Batman knows of Hagen's past and offered to help Hagen earlier in the same episode. Even if he couldn't justify letting the crime go, nothing stops him from letting him get cured ''then'' throw a non superpowered Hagen in jail. Besides, it wouldn't be the first time Bruce Wayne made a public show of supporting the rehibilitation rehabilitation of a criminal, having paid for the experimental surgery and therapies that would restore Harvey Dent to a normal life in "Second Chance"\\



** '''Also''', Aang ''was'' fully prepared to kill Ozai. He even resigned himself to do that after talking with his past lives. Until he knew he could Energy Bend, he was fully prepared to kill Ozai. Its not a WhatAnIdiot moment.
** '''Not really''', since he got a superb one-of-a-kind opportunity to end it all quickly with ligthning redirecting, and
** '''Furthermore''' he is literaly alone in the entire universe to be against killing Ozai: his best friends, his girlfriend, the son of the BigBad, FOUR old and wise spirits and even the gorram spirit of the world itself (who took over during the avatar state) wanted the bastard dead. And not a single soul had a problem with that. It really got silly, however, when Aang ask his past lives opinions and DISMISSED them because they're not what he WANTS to hear. Seriously WTF!?

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** '''Also''', Aang ''was'' fully prepared to kill Ozai. He even resigned himself to do that after talking with his past lives. Until he knew he could Energy Bend, he was fully prepared to kill Ozai. Its It's not a WhatAnIdiot moment.
** '''Not really''', since he got a superb one-of-a-kind opportunity to end it all quickly with ligthning lightning redirecting, and
** '''Furthermore''' he is literaly literally alone in the entire universe to be against killing Ozai: his best friends, his girlfriend, the son of the BigBad, FOUR old and wise spirits and even the gorram spirit of the world itself (who took over during the avatar state) wanted the bastard dead. And not a single soul had a problem with that. It really got silly, however, when Aang ask his past lives opinions and DISMISSED them because they're not what he WANTS to hear. Seriously WTF!?



** '''May I Put In My Two Cents on The Above Arguments?''' First, yes, Aang was the only one against killing Ozai. But here's the thing: with the possible exception of the spirit of the world itself, ''the others weren't the ones pulling the trigger''. I think [[HarryPotter Dumbledore]] said it best: "Killing is not as easy as the innocent believe." Put that on top of said life of [[TechnicalPacifist Technical Pacifism]] and the fact that Aang is ''a twelve-year-old kid'', it's understandable that Aang would be heistatiant to kill Ozai, [[CompleteMonster even if Ozai is a complete bastard]]. Second, to the argument that Aang should have ended it all quickly by killing Ozai, he knew another way to stop Ozai, even if it is a complete AssPull. Why would he kill when there's another way to render the threat of Ozai powerless? Third, while I can't explain the buzzard/wasp thing, it was the Avatar State spirit that was willing to kill the Earth General. Aang was, quite literally, on his hands and knees begging the Earth General to not kill Katara before he went into the Avatar state. Also, there's this good argument from FridgeBrilliance, though I don't know if Aang was thinking this: Quite, argubly, Aang killing the Firelord in the ''wrong'' way (basically any way that would have made Ozai the least bit of a martyr in the eyes of anyone in the Fire Nation who sympathized with him) would ''not'' have helped the world, but instead trigger a civil war within the Fire Nation, creating even ''more'' chaos and suffering in the world. So discrediting Ozai's warmongering by defeating him, neutralizing him and ''sparing his life'' may in fact have been the ''only'' way for the Avatar to restore the balance of the world. This troper agrees that Energybending ''should'' have been more foreshadowed, but she doesn't like the fact that people are bashing Aang [[ARealManIsAKiller for not killing someone in cold blood]]. Critizing lack of foreshadowing of solution? Perfectly fine. Critizing a character for not going against his morals, though he knows another way to stop the BigBad, therefore not needing to kill said BigBad? Not cool at all.

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** '''May I Put In My Two Cents on The Above Arguments?''' First, yes, Aang was the only one against killing Ozai. But here's the thing: with the possible exception of the spirit of the world itself, ''the others weren't the ones pulling the trigger''. I think [[HarryPotter Dumbledore]] said it best: "Killing is not as easy as the innocent believe." Put that on top of said life of [[TechnicalPacifist Technical Pacifism]] and the fact that Aang is ''a twelve-year-old kid'', it's understandable that Aang would be heistatiant hesitant to kill Ozai, [[CompleteMonster even if Ozai is a complete bastard]]. Second, to the argument that Aang should have ended it all quickly by killing Ozai, he knew another way to stop Ozai, even if it is a complete AssPull. Why would he kill when there's another way to render the threat of Ozai powerless? Third, while I can't explain the buzzard/wasp thing, it was the Avatar State spirit that was willing to kill the Earth General. Aang was, quite literally, on his hands and knees begging the Earth General to not kill Katara before he went into the Avatar state. Also, there's this good argument from FridgeBrilliance, though I don't know if Aang was thinking this: Quite, argubly, arguably, Aang killing the Firelord in the ''wrong'' way (basically any way that would have made Ozai the least bit of a martyr in the eyes of anyone in the Fire Nation who sympathized with him) would ''not'' have helped the world, but instead trigger a civil war within the Fire Nation, creating even ''more'' chaos and suffering in the world. So discrediting Ozai's warmongering by defeating him, neutralizing him and ''sparing his life'' may in fact have been the ''only'' way for the Avatar to restore the balance of the world. This troper agrees that Energybending ''should'' have been more foreshadowed, but she doesn't like the fact that people are bashing Aang [[ARealManIsAKiller for not killing someone in cold blood]]. Critizing Criticizing lack of foreshadowing of solution? Perfectly fine. Critizing Criticizing a character for not going against his morals, though he knows another way to stop the BigBad, therefore not needing to kill said BigBad? Not cool at all.



'''Instead''', Zhao kills the moon. Brilliant. And it's pretty clear that to him, the destuction of waterbending was a bonus. He just wanted to be able to brag that he killed the moon. [[spoiler: Fortunetly, Yue is able to undo his actions with a HeroicSacrifice.]]

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'''Instead''', Zhao kills the moon. Brilliant. And it's pretty clear that to him, the destuction destruction of waterbending was a bonus. He just wanted to be able to brag that he killed the moon. [[spoiler: Fortunetly, Fortunately, Yue is able to undo his actions with a HeroicSacrifice.]]



** Toph gets one in The Western Air Temple, when she visits Zuko's camp at night to talk to him about joining the gaang. Zuko hears her approaching, wakes up, and calls out to know whose there.

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** Toph gets one in The Western Air Temple, when she visits Zuko's camp at night to talk to him about joining the gaang.Gaang. Zuko hears her approaching, wakes up, and calls out to know whose there.



'''You'd Expect''' that Drakken would a) learn by his mistakes and actually capture Rufus so that the pet does not free Kim and Ron again, and b) not take the backpack, containing a laser beam and the necessary disrupter to the transmitter to the evil machines, to the exact same room that TP were tied up in.\\

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'''You'd Expect''' that Drakken would a) learn by his mistakes and actually capture Rufus so that the pet does not free Kim and Ron again, and b) not take the backpack, containing a laser beam and the necessary disrupter disruptor to the transmitter to the evil machines, to the exact same room that TP were tied up in.\\



'''Instead''': Homer, being the loveable idiot jerkass he is, tells the baseball player that his wife is pooping.\\

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'''Instead''': Homer, being the loveable lovable idiot jerkass he is, tells the baseball player that his wife is pooping.\\



** '''However:''' StatusQuoIsGod is taken to a ridiculous extreme in ''{{Futurama}}'', considering the amount of episodes that end with Fry either performing some earth-shatteringly romantic gesture, or sacrificing his own life to save Leela. Also, Fry is called upon for being such an idiot, (see the page quote for LoveMakesYouDumb). Besides, he sort of makes the right call with the 'He's wrong' comment. Leela only likes him because he can do hunky things at that point and not because of the personality he always had, Fry is also intelligent enough at that point to realize how hollow that would be.\\

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** '''However:''' StatusQuoIsGod is taken to a ridiculous extreme in ''{{Futurama}}'', considering the amount of episodes that end with Fry either performing some earth-shatteringly romantic gesture, or sacrificing his own life to save Leela. Also, Fry is called upon for being such an idiot, (see the page quote for LoveMakesYouDumb). Besides, he sort of makes the right call with the 'He's wrong' comment. Leela only likes him because he can do hunky things at that point and not because of the personality he always had, had. Fry is also intelligent enough at that point to realize how hollow that would be.\\



** '''You'd Expect:''' He'd say "Sure, why not." Even if didn't have the same sympathy for the kids that Leela had, it should've at least ocurred to him that doing something so nice for them would've made bedding her a slam dunk.

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** '''You'd Expect:''' He'd say "Sure, why not." Even if didn't have the same sympathy for the kids that Leela had, it should've at least ocurred occurred to him that doing something so nice for them would've made bedding her a slam dunk.



'''You'd Expect:''' Peter to give her the goodbye kiss and go off superheroing. If he must break up with her so he can pursue Gwen, do it at a more oppurtune time. While there is no way to break up with someone who loves you "in a good way," it's a much better option then what Peter ended up doing.\\
'''Instead:''' Peter acts like a JerkAss, not give the kiss and apologizes to ''Gwen'' for leaving early. Poor Liz is humiliated, her realationship with Peter is shattered, and Peter is to blame for being stupid.
** And one more, this time from the episode "Natural Selection". Even though its a growth in character development and meant to establish the status quo of the Spider-Man mythos, a ridiculous situation occurs when Kurt is taking his serum and becomes the Lizard through some unforseen side effects. Peter, as Spider-Man, manages to defeat him in the process taking some pictures for the Daily Bugle for a contest and has it printed on the newspapers.\\

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'''You'd Expect:''' Peter to give her the goodbye kiss and go off superheroing. If he must break up with her so he can pursue Gwen, do it at a more oppurtune opportune time. While there is no way to break up with someone who loves you "in a good way," it's a much better option then what Peter ended up doing.\\
'''Instead:''' Peter acts like a JerkAss, not give the kiss and apologizes to ''Gwen'' for leaving early. Poor Liz is humiliated, her realationship relationship with Peter is shattered, and Peter is to blame for being stupid.
** And one more, this time from the episode "Natural Selection". Even though its a growth in character development and meant to establish the status quo of the Spider-Man mythos, a ridiculous situation occurs when Kurt is taking his serum and becomes the Lizard through some unforseen unforeseen side effects. Peter, as Spider-Man, manages to defeat him in the process taking some pictures for the Daily Bugle for a contest and has it printed on the newspapers.\\



** Mystique and Cyclops happend to fight in a cellar. Due to having lost his glassess Cyclops has to keep his eyes shut, but he manages to pinpoint the only lamp in the chamber and blast it, plunging the cellar in complete darkness and stripping Mystique of her advantage.

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** Mystique and Cyclops happend happened to fight in a cellar. Due to having Having lost his glassess glasses, Cyclops has to keep his eyes shut, but he manages to pinpoint the only lamp in the chamber and blast it, plunging the cellar in complete darkness and stripping Mystique of her advantage.



'''Instead:''' She just stumbles around in the dark until Cyclops recieves reinforcements and she's defeated.

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'''Instead:''' She just stumbles around in the dark until Cyclops recieves receives reinforcements and she's defeated.



--> '''Chris''': "...And that's three votes for '''[=LeShawna=]'''!%%The quote may not have gone that way, but I assure you it happend.%%

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--> '''Chris''': "...And that's three votes for '''[=LeShawna=]'''!%%The quote may not have gone that way, but I assure you it happend.happened.%%



'''Instead:''' She throws it out of the plane, just because she can. Lo and behold, the very next challenge is to make sausage; a task that would be monumentally easier for anyone who has meat grinder.

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'''Instead:''' She throws it out of the plane, just because she can. Lo and behold, the very next challenge is to make sausage; sausage, a task that would be monumentally easier for anyone who has meat grinder.



* In the ''SouthPark'' episode "Major Boobage", Kenny has been "cheesing" (taking cat urine as part of a drug craze) and his friends came to comfort him. Kyle [[spoiler: foolishly takes one of the cats home]] and his mother Shiela finds it in his dresser drawer while putting away laundry, leading to his parents having a talk about this.\\

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* In the ''SouthPark'' episode "Major Boobage", Kenny has been "cheesing" (taking cat urine as part of a drug craze) and his friends came to comfort him. Kyle [[spoiler: foolishly takes one of the cats home]] and his mother Shiela Sheila finds it in his dresser drawer while putting away laundry, leading to his parents having a talk about this.\\



'''Instead:''' [[spoiler: Shiela, the mom, accuses him of lying about the cat, and Gerald, the dad, grounds him.]]\\

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'''Instead:''' [[spoiler: Shiela, Sheila, the mom, accuses him of lying about the cat, and Gerald, the dad, grounds him.]]\\



* In one episode of SwatKats, Mac Mange kidnaps the mayor and Callie, while dressed up as their new chauffer. Except, he's wearing the mask based off his original face.\\

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* In one episode of SwatKats, Mac Mange kidnaps the mayor and Callie, while dressed up as their new chauffer.chauffeur. Except, he's wearing the mask based off his original face.\\



** In order to [[strike: assasinate]], sorry, wipe out Kingpin, Osborn employs PsychoForHire Hobgoblin and equips him with a glider. However, Spider-Man thwarts the attempt, and Osborn decides it's too dangerous to carry on and gives Hobgoblin a boot.\\
'''You'd expect''' Osborn to install a remote-controlled shut down switch in the glider or, better else, rig it with remote-controlled explosives, so that when Hobgoblin outlives his usefullness he can be stripped of his power and easily [[strike: killed]], sorry, disposed of. That's "Assassination 101" for Cthulhu's sake!\\
'''Instead''' He basicly tells Hobgoblin to fuck off, insults him and threatens to expose him. And then acts genuinely surprised when Hobgoblin has the audacity to fly away with the glider and team up with Kingpin. He should be surprised Hobgoblin didn't [[strike: kill]] exsanguinate him on spot!
** Having left Osborn and been hired by Kingpin, Hobgobline successfully completes his first assignment - kidnap Harry Osborn, and demands payment.\\
'''You'd expect''' Kingpin to pay him. Why the hell not? Hobgoblin is obviously a usefull and competent henchman, and he's just started working for him, so it'd be reasonable to give him some incentive.\\
'''Or''' Since Hobgoblin is also a dangerous lunatic with no sense of loyalty, it'd be understandable if Kingpin didn't want to keep him around and got rid of him right there and then. Hell, Hobgoblin's main asset is his glider, well, [[strike: kill]], sory, eliminate the nutcase and get one of your own reliable goons to pilot the thing!\\

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** In order to [[strike: assasinate]], assassinate]], sorry, wipe out Kingpin, Osborn employs PsychoForHire Hobgoblin and equips him with a glider. However, Spider-Man thwarts the attempt, and Osborn decides it's too dangerous to carry on and gives Hobgoblin a boot.\\
'''You'd expect''' Osborn to install a remote-controlled shut down switch in the glider or, better else, rig it with remote-controlled explosives, so that when Hobgoblin outlives his usefullness usefulness he can be stripped of his power and easily [[strike: killed]], sorry, disposed of. That's "Assassination 101" for Cthulhu's sake!\\
'''Instead''' He basicly basically tells Hobgoblin to fuck off, insults him and threatens to expose him. And then acts genuinely surprised when Hobgoblin has the audacity to fly away with the glider and team up with Kingpin. He should be surprised Hobgoblin didn't [[strike: kill]] exsanguinate him on spot!
** Having left Osborn and been hired by Kingpin, Hobgobline Hobgoblin successfully completes his first assignment - kidnap Harry Osborn, and demands payment.\\
'''You'd expect''' Kingpin to pay him. Why the hell not? Hobgoblin is obviously a usefull useful and competent henchman, and he's just started working for him, so it'd be reasonable to give him some incentive.\\
'''Or''' Since Hobgoblin is also a dangerous lunatic with no sense of loyalty, it'd be understandable if Kingpin didn't want to keep him around and got rid of him right there and then. Hell, Hobgoblin's main asset is his glider, well, [[strike: kill]], sory, sorry, eliminate the nutcase and get one of your own reliable goons to pilot the thing!\\



** '''You'd expect''' that Spongebob, Krabs, or someone else would go see if he's alright. He should still have a working pulse, and they could give him a real Krabby Patty and pass the inspection.

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** '''You'd expect''' that Spongebob, Krabs, or someone else would go see if he's alright.all right. He should still have a working pulse, and they could give him a real Krabby Patty and pass the inspection.
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** '''May I Put In My Two Cents on The Above Arguments?''' First, yes, Aang was the only one against killing Ozai. But here's the thing: with the possible exception of the spirit of the world itself, ''the others weren't the ones pulling the trigger''. I think [[HarryPotter Dumbledore]] said it best: "Killing is not as easy as the innocent believe." Put that on top of said life of [[TechnicalPacifist Technical Pacifism]] and the fact that Aang is ''a twelve-year-old kid'', it's understandable that Aang would be heistatiant to kill Ozai, [[CompleteMonster even if Ozai is a complete bastard]]. Second, to the argument that Aang should have ended it all quickly by killing Ozai, he knew another way to stop Ozai, even if it is a complete AssPull. Why would he kill when there's another way to render the threat of Ozai powerless? Third, while I can't explain the buzzard/wasp thing, it was the Avatar State spirit that was willing to kill the Earth General. Aang was, quite literally, on his hands and knees begging the Earth General to not kill Katara before he went into the Avatar state. Also, there's this good argument from FridgeBrilliance, though I don't know if Aang was thinking this: Quite, argubly, Aang killing the Firelord in the ''wrong'' way (basically any way that would have made Ozai the least bit of a martyr in the eyes of anyone in the Fire Nation who sympathized with him) would ''not'' have helped the world, but instead trigger a civil war within the Fire Nation, creating even ''more'' chaos and suffering in the world. So discrediting Ozai's warmongering by defeating him, neutralizing him and ''sparing his life'' may in fact have been the ''only'' way for the Avatar to restore the balance of the world. This troper agrees that Energybending ''should'' have been more foreshadowed, but she doesn't like the fact that people are bashing Aang [[ARealManIsAKiller for not killing someone in cold blood]]. Critizing lack of foreshadowing of solution? Perfectly fine. Critizing a character for not going against his morals, though he knows another way to stop the BigBad, therefore not needing to kill said BigBad? Not cool at all.


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** The military tries to stop Jack from causing anymore nightmares.\\
'''You'd expect''' that the military would send jets to escort Jack to a landing spot, have the police waiting to arrest him, or at the very least try to shoot Jack down in the country side.\\
'''Instead''' they shoot Jack down over ''a suburban area'', risking Jack and his WreathedInFlames sleigh landing on top of a house. Seriously, that's just ''asking'' for a death or lawsuit to happen.

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* In the WoodyWoodpecker short ''Buccaneer Woody'', at the end when Woody is hiding in a barrel from Buzz Buzzard, he's looking for him through the group of barrels...and then Woody's arm pops out of his barrel and points to Buzz that Woody is hiding in a nearby barrel. Rather than question how a barrel could have an arm and speak, Buzz takes the barrels advice and drags off the barrel he thinks has Woody in it...and as he's passing by Woody's barrel, Woody pulls out the cork of Buzz's barrel and lights the gunpowder falling out with a match. The rest is self-explanatory.
* ''HeyArnold!'', "Stinky Goes Hollywood": country bumpkin Stinky decides to turn down a lucrative soda ad contract, even though his family is poor, and he is doing so right in front of his dad, and tons of his classmates.\\
'''You'd expect''': that Stinky would explain ''why'' he wasn't going to sign the contract, especially since his dad might be able to accept his reason instead of repeatedly crying "Why???" He had just overheard a conversation at the advertising studio that Stinky was perfect to make fun of, and that's why he was picked to film the ads.\\

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* In the WoodyWoodpecker short ''Buccaneer Woody'', at the end when Woody is hiding in a barrel from Buzz Buzzard, he's Buzz is looking for him Woody through the group of barrels...and then Woody's arm pops out of his barrel and points to Buzz that Woody is hiding in a nearby barrel. Rather than question how a barrel could have an arm and speak, Buzz takes the barrels advice and drags off the barrel he thinks has Woody in it...and as he's passing by Woody's barrel, Woody pulls out the cork of Buzz's barrel and lights the gunpowder falling out with a match. The rest is self-explanatory.
* ''HeyArnold!'', "Stinky Goes Hollywood": country Country bumpkin Stinky decides to turn down a lucrative soda ad contract, even though his family is poor, and he is doing so right in front of his dad, and tons many of his classmates.\\
'''You'd expect''': that Stinky would explain ''why'' he wasn't going to sign the contract, especially since his dad might be able to accept his reason instead of repeatedly crying crying, "Why???" He had just overheard a conversation at the advertising studio that Stinky was perfect to make fun of, ridicule, and that's why he was picked to film the ads.\\



** Another ''HeyArnold!'' episode, "Arnold Betrays Iggy": while taking homework to the "Cool Kid of the School" Iggy who was sick that day, Arnold finds out that Iggy has an embarassing secret- he wears full-on bunny pajamas: cotton tail, bunny feet, and even big floppy ears. Iggy begs Arnold not to tell, and Arnold gives his word; however, Sid and Stinky find out due to really accurate conclusion-jumping and now Iggy is a laughing stock. Arnold feels guilty because Iggy thinks that he told and will never forgive him, even after Arnold profusedly apologized and told him that he didn't spill.\\

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** Another ''HeyArnold!'' ''Hey Arnold!'' episode, "Arnold Betrays Iggy": while While taking homework to the "Cool Kid of the School" Iggy who was sick that day, Arnold finds out that Iggy has an embarassing secret- he wears full-on bunny pajamas: cotton tail, bunny feet, and even big floppy ears. Iggy begs Arnold not to tell, and Arnold gives his word; however, Sid and Stinky find out due to really accurate conclusion-jumping and now Iggy is a laughing stock. Arnold feels guilty because Iggy thinks that he told and will never forgive him, even after Arnold profusedly apologized and told him that he didn't spill.\\



** The things that makes this so bad though are for one, Iggy doesn't realize he went overboard at all, he only overhears the spreaders of his secret mention that Arnold never told them and they wormed an answer out, the same explanation Arnold gave that he wouldn't accept. And ignoring that, Arnold Accepts this massive humiliation and then begrudged Iggy for it. He is only doing this to sooth his own obsessive guilt but upon doing this he resents the guy he was trying to please for something he accepted doing. It's not like Iggy stole all of Arnold's clothes from the school locker room and only left the pajamas and then invited the entire school to see, they both arranged this to happen, so why is Arnold suddenly mad at him over something he couldn't let it go and that Iggy misunderstood?
* ''RocketPower'', "Race Across New Zealand": Reggie has taken the lead in a windsurfing race. However, her dad Ray is still cheering on her younger brother Otto, prompting her to think: "Maybe this will get Raymundo's attention".\\

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** The things that makes this so bad though are are, for one, Iggy doesn't realize he went overboard at all, he only overhears the spreaders of his secret mention that Arnold never told them and they wormed an answer out, the same explanation Arnold gave that he wouldn't accept. And ignoring that, Arnold Accepts this massive humiliation and then begrudged Iggy for it. He is only doing this to sooth his own obsessive guilt but upon doing this he resents the guy he was trying to please for something he accepted doing. It's not like Iggy stole all of Arnold's clothes from the school locker room and only left the pajamas and then invited the entire school to see, they both arranged this to happen, so why is Arnold suddenly mad at him over something he couldn't let it go and that Iggy misunderstood?
* ''RocketPower'', "Race Across New Zealand": Reggie has taken the lead in a windsurfing race. However, her dad Ray dad, Ray, is still cheering on her younger brother brother, Otto, prompting her to think: "Maybe this will get Raymundo's attention".\\



-->'''Batman''': Always trying to find a cure, aren't you?
-->'''Clayface''': Can you blame me?
-->'''Batman''': No... but it's made you predictable.

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** In Batman's SuperHeroOrigin Story in ''Mask of the Phantasm'', Bruce is struggling with choosing between a life with Andrea and a life as Batman.\\

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'''However''' - His mind control may have the standard "Cannot force target to do something they'd have a moral objection to" disclaimer. But, as we know from long, ''long'' experience, [[LetsYouAndHimFight smacking the living crap out of each other is not something Superheroes have an objection to.]]\\

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'''However''' - His mind control may have the standard "Cannot force target to do something to which they'd have a moral objection to" objection" disclaimer. But, as we know from long, ''long'' experience, [[LetsYouAndHimFight smacking the living crap out of each other is not something Superheroes have an objection to.]]\\



* Cobra Commander from ''GIJoe'' follows right on this tropes in TheMovie. After a failed battle with G.I. Joe, Serpentor insults them.\\

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* Cobra Commander from ''GIJoe'' follows right on this tropes trope in TheMovie. After a failed battle with G.I. Joe, Serpentor insults them.\\



* ''{{Superfriends}}'' has a LOT of instances of characters [[ForgotICouldFly forgetting that they have superpowers]]. In one particularly {{egregious}} example, the Legion of Doom has come up with a device that can transport people into books. Toy Man lures Hawkman into following him into "Jack and the Beanstalk", and proceeds to flee by scaling the beanstalk. \\
'''You'd Expect:''' Hawkman would remember that, not only does he have wings, flying is his ''only power'', and thus he would use that power to chase and apprehend the villain. \\
'''Instead:''' Hawkman ''climbs up the beanstalk after Toy Man'', and has quite a difficult time of it, from the look of things. You just ''know'' that, the whole time, he's thinking "Boy, if only I didn't have these big weights on my back, I'm sure I could climb a lot faster!" \\

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'''You'd Expect:''' Hawkman would remember that, not only does he have wings, but flying is his ''only power'', and thus he would use that power to chase and apprehend the villain. \\
'''Instead:''' Hawkman ''climbs up the beanstalk after Toy Man'', Toyman'', and has quite a difficult time of it, from the look of things. You just ''know'' that, the whole time, he's thinking "Boy, if only I didn't have these big weights on my back, I'm sure I could climb a lot faster!" \\



* In ''CatsDontDance'', Darla's EvilPlan to discredit the heroes has worked: she tricked [[TheHero Danny]] into using a soundstage to try and impress the studio head. Then she sabotaged it via floods, and just drops by to drop off the hostage again.\\

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'''Then Again''': How old is Darla Dimple anyways? Little kids ''do'' like to gloat, and possibly she figured that Pudge would tell them how the whole sabotage happened, since he saw the whole thing while being tied up, so she thought that she could indulge herself in a little gloating.

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'''Then Again''': How old is Darla Dimple Dimple, anyways? Little kids ''do'' like to gloat, and possibly she figured that Pudge would tell them how the whole sabotage happened, since he saw the whole thing while being tied up, so she thought that she could indulge herself in a little gloating.



'''Instead:''' Bulkhead, still livid from the Constructicons' betrayal, threatens them with his giant wrecking ball weapon and generally throws a temper tantrum. This frightens the Constructicons off, which eventually leads to them falling back in with Megatron and becoming true-blue, dyed-in-the-wool Decepticons. That's what happens when you are voiced by [[SpongebobSquarepants Patrick]] [[RalphWiggum Star...]]

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'''Instead:''' Bulkhead, still livid furious from the Constructicons' betrayal, threatens them with his giant wrecking ball weapon and generally throws a temper tantrum. This frightens the Constructicons off, which eventually leads to them falling back in with Megatron and becoming true-blue, dyed-in-the-wool Decepticons. That's what happens when you are voiced by [[SpongebobSquarepants Patrick]] [[RalphWiggum Star...]]



** Another episode of TransformersAnimated has Sentinel Prime, on the way back to Cybertron, bringing out the captured Decepticons from their cells to interrogate them. Then he is called to the bridge to speak with the High Council.\\

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** [[CompletelyMissingThePoint It's Simpsons!]] Weren't you paying attention?
** You're underestimating the parent-child bond, however, and a BABY isn't anywhere near leaving the nest.

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** You're underestimating the parent-child bond, however, and a BABY ''baby'' isn't anywhere near leaving the nest.



* In the ''Spectacular Spiderman'' episode [[spoiler: "Identity Crisis", Venom has declared that Peter Parker is Spider Man. As journalists are trying to get proof, Venom attacks Spidey and eventually rips off his mask as Spidey quickly dives behind a car to avoid being seen.]]\\

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* In the 90's Series/{{X-Men}} cartoon, Rogue's character is defined by her [[strike:sassy, flirty one-liners]] inability to touch people without draining their life/powers/mind. She is forced to wrestle with this in virtually every episode that gives her a serious role. Halfway through the first season, Gambit, Storm and Jubilee imprisoned on an island where mutants are used for slave labor, and controlled with collars that can disable their powers. \\

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* In the 90's 1990s Series/{{X-Men}} cartoon, Rogue's character is defined by her [[strike:sassy, flirty one-liners]] inability to touch people without draining their life/powers/mind. She is forced to wrestle with this in virtually every episode that gives her a serious role. Halfway through the first season, Gambit, Storm and Jubilee imprisoned on an island where mutants are used for slave labor, and controlled with collars that can disable their powers. \\



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** '''But The Series Already'' took a lot of risks and did a lot of things you'd think the censors would, well, censor. And I'm not even talking about the stuff on the Radar page, which is more about sexual implications. For one thing, they showed ''the complete mental collapse of a fourteen-year-old''. The whole ''plot'' of the show revolves around genocide and imperialism, not to mention child abuse. What '''You'd Expect''' is for Ozai to save the lightning for later in the fight, and Aang to redirect it against him -- that should be enough [[KarmicDeath Ozai's]] [[HoistByHisOwnPetard fault]] to placate the censors, while not requiring a combination of DeusExMachina (the jutting rock, anyone?) and an EleventhHourSuperpower out of seemingly nowhere. It would probably be forgivable, though, if it were just another "decent" or "okay" cartoon...but for ''[[AvatarTheLastAirbender Avatar]]'', it was pretty out of character for the writers.

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** '''Even So''' usually when they pull the bad guy dies in a children's show it's usually a death by the villain's own hubris. And further more TheHero is never the one to directly pull the trigger. The censors would have an absolute field day if that were to happen.

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** '''But The Series Already'' took a lot of risks and did a lot of things you'd think the censors would, well, censor. And I'm not even talking about the stuff on the Radar page, which is more about sexual implications. For one thing, they showed ''the complete mental collapse of a fourteen-year-old''. The whole ''plot'' of the show revolves around genocide and imperialism, not to mention child abuse. What '''You'd Expect''' is for Ozai to save the lightning for later in the fight, and Aang to redirect it against him -- that should be enough [[KarmicDeath Ozai's]] [[HoistByHisOwnPetard fault]] to placate the censors, while not requiring a combination of DeusExMachina (the jutting rock, anyone?) and an EleventhHourSuperpower out of seemingly nowhere. It would probably be forgivable, though, if it were just another "decent" or "okay" cartoon...but for ''[[AvatarTheLastAirbender Avatar]]'', it was pretty out of character for the writers.
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'''Although:''' Kyle has been bashed for too long in unfunny ways since season 4, in contrast to how funny it used to be in the first 3 seasons, and that this bashing has crossed the line.\\
'''Additionally:''' Kyle's dad, usually a nice guy like his son usually is as well, [[spoiler: has been converted into a complete {{Jerkass}} in the episode, banning cats from the town, plus, [[{{CabbitGirlEmi}} this troper]] kind of finds it scary when he yells at his own flesh and blood.]] Besides, bashing Kyle is Cartman's job, and no one else's.

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'''Although:''' Kyle has been bashed for too long treated like a ButtMonkey in [[DudeNotFunny unfunny ways manners]] since season 4, in contrast to how funny it used to be in the first 3 seasons, and that this bashing treatment has crossed the line.\\
'''Additionally:''' Kyle's dad, usually a nice guy like his son usually is as well, [[spoiler: has been converted into a complete {{Jerkass}} in the episode, banning cats from the town, plus, [[{{CabbitGirlEmi}} this troper]] kind of finds it scary when he yells at his own flesh and blood.]] Besides, bashing treating Kyle like the ButtMonkey is Cartman's job, and no one else's.
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'''Instead''' he drinks it and almost dies. [[IdiotBall Idiot.]]\\

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** '''Instead:''' Being the JerkAss that he was, he tells them to beat it, "Come back when you have connections." Not surprisingly, Leela [[NiceToTheWaiter slaps the dipshit and dumps him on the spot.]]

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** '''Uh''', TheBadGuyDies in ''plenty'' of children's books/shows/movies/games/fantasies. Especially fantasies. Most kids wouldn't be capable of the kind of complex reasoning exhibited on this page (and many others) anyway, so it would seem like even ''more'' of an AssPull to them than to us.

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'''However''' not explaining his plan would have been ''rude''. Doofenshmirtz has standards, after all.

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* In ''FamilyGuy'', episode "Dial Meg for Murder", after Meg is released from prison and back in school, Connie and the popular kids see her.
** '''You'd expect:''' That they would avoid her due to the way they treat her in school normally and thinking Meg would be looking for revenge.
** '''Instead:''' They make her fun out of her like usual, which earns them a pounding from a bag of cans and Meg french-kissing an unconscious Connie.
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* An episode of ''TotallySpies'' had a villain break into a lab by carving a hole into the window with the diamond tipped heel of her shoe. She jumps through the hole and the heel breaks off as she lands on the floor.

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'''You'd expect:''' Francine to be furious at Roger for nearly killing both her son and one of his friends, and to lecture him about how you don't need power over life and death just to feel good about yourself.\\
'''Instead:''' She blames ''Stan'' for everything, because he was mean to Roger earlier in the episode. Stan then tries to make amends by letting Roger hold onto the adrenaline shot that he uses to stave off his lethal shellfish allergy... and the [[SarcasmMode brilliance of this thinking]] is demonstrated in the very next scene, when Roger deliberately poisons Stan with some crawfish cookies and withholds the adrenaline shot so that he can feel high and mighty again.

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** '''You'd expect:''' Francine to be furious at Roger for nearly killing both her son and one of his friends, and to lecture him about how you don't need power over life and death just to feel good about yourself.\\
** '''Instead:''' She blames ''Stan'' for everything, because he was mean to Roger earlier in the episode. Stan then tries to make amends by letting Roger hold onto the adrenaline shot that he uses to stave off his lethal shellfish allergy... and the [[SarcasmMode brilliance of this thinking]] is demonstrated in the very next scene, when Roger deliberately poisons Stan with some crawfish cookies and withholds the adrenaline shot so that he can feel high and mighty again.again.
* An episode of ''TotallySpies'' had a villain break into a lab by carving a hole into the window with the diamond tipped heel of her shoe. She jumps through the hole and the heel breaks off as she lands on the floor.
** '''You'd expect:''' She'd pick up the broken heel. Even if she wasn't GenreSavvy she could still super-glue it back on or something so her shoe wouldn't be ruined.
** '''Instead:''' She just leaves it there. When the spies find it they immediately track it to her, and later use it to escape the villain's trap, allowing them to foil her plan with ease.
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** Toph gets one in The Western Air Temple, when she visits Zuko's camp at night to talk to him about joining the gaang. Zuko hears her approaching, wakes up, and calls out to know whose there.
'''You'd Expect''' That she would identify herself, seeing as (as far as any of them know) there is not a single person in the world that doesn't want Zuko dead, captured, or wounded in some way.
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* Well, alright, but there's still Isabella's crush on Phineas, and how obvious she makes it.
** '''You'd expect''' Phineas to realize her love for him.
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** '''Instead''' he wastes his time explaining his whole plan to Perry while he's wearing the helmet, then ends up getting distracted when he trips, setting his mind to something else and causing everyone to forget about the aglet instead.

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* In the ''AmericanDad'' episode "The Weiner of our Discontent," Roger gets hold of some poisonous hot dogs which will kill anyone who eats them, and decides to keep hold of them so that he can feel important (and kill anyone who pisses him off by feeding them one of the poisoned hot dogs). Due to a mix-up, Steve and Toshi nearly end up eating them in a hot dog-eating contest, but Toshi's mother unknowingly prevents them from doing so. Afterwards, Stan destroys the poisonous hot dogs once and for all.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Francine to be furious at Roger for nearly killing both her son and one of his friends, and to lecture him about how you don't need power over life and death just to feel good about yourself.\\
'''Instead:''' She blames ''Stan'' for everything, because he was mean to Roger earlier in the episode. Stan then tries to make amends by letting Roger hold onto the adrenaline shot that he uses to stave off his lethal shellfish allergy... and the [[SarcasmMode brilliance of this thinking]] is demonstrated in the very next scene, when Roger deliberately poisons Stan with some crawfish cookies and withholds the adrenaline shot so that he can feel high and mighty again.

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** Magneto builds a machine that greately amplifies any mutant's powers but also brainwashes him into becoming an obedient slave to Big M. There are two prominent mutant groups available: the unruly, unscrupulous and pretty dim-witted bullies of the Brotherhood led by Magneto's associate Mystiqe and the high and moral X-men.\\

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** Mystique and Cyclops happend to fight in a cellar. Due to having lost his glassess Cyclops has to keep his eyes shut, but he manages to pinpoint the only lamp in the chamber and blast it, plunging the cellar in complete darkness and stripping Mystique of her advantage.
'''You'd Expect:''' Mystique to morph into a nightsighted predator and carry on trouncing Scott.
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'''However'''- The final chemical Hagen stole had one large label. DANGER. It's very likely that the "cure" Hagen would have received would have been the type that works at first but dooms you but then slowly kills you or gives you worse side effects. It might have even been something that you have to use repeatedly to maintain the effects... like the very thing that turned Hagen into Clayface. Also, in Clayface's previous appearance, he faked his death perfectly. Perhaps Batman thought he did it again (which he did, considering the next WAI). Or he didn't expect to get tackled and then chased into the rain by Clayface.

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** '''However'''- The final chemical Hagen stole had one large label. DANGER. It's very likely that the "cure" Hagen would have received would have been the type that works at first but dooms you but then slowly kills you or gives you worse side effects. It might have even been something that you have to use repeatedly to maintain the effects... like the very thing that turned Hagen into Clayface. Also, in Clayface's previous appearance, he faked his death perfectly. Perhaps Batman thought he did it again (which he did, considering the next WAI). Or he didn't expect to get tackled and then chased into the rain by Clayface.



'''Then again''' - Just how well does Mr. Beaumont know Bruce anyhow? Bruce is pretty much the richest man in the city, and it wouldn't be a stretch for Beaumont to think of him as the sort of guy to drop guys like him like a hot potato if he was found with mob affiliations.

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'''Also''', Aang ''was'' fully prepared to kill Ozai. He even resigned himself to do that after talking with his past lives. Until he knew he could Energy Bend, he was fully prepared to kill Ozai. Its not a WhatAnIdiot moment.
'''Not really''', since he got a superb one-of-a-kind opportunity to end it all quickly with ligthning redirecting, and
'''Furtheremore''' he is literraly alone in the entire universe to be against killing Ozai: his best friends, his girlfriend, the son of the BigBad, FOUR old and wise spirits and even the gorram spirit of the world itself (who took over during the avatar state) wanted the bastard dead. And not a single soul had a problem with that. It really got silly, however, when Aang ask his past lives opinions and DISMISSED them because they're not what he WANTS to hear. Seriously WTF!?
** And of course, the difing idiocy of the series comes from Admiral Zhao during the first season finale. Zhao is invading the Northern Water Tribe in order to stop Aang from learning waterbending. Zhao is also aware that the Ocean and Moon spirits (the entities that power waterbending) are in the heart of the Tribe's city in the form of relatively harmless koi fish. Killing the Moon Spirit would destroy waterbending.\\

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** '''Also''', Aang ''was'' fully prepared to kill Ozai. He even resigned himself to do that after talking with his past lives. Until he knew he could Energy Bend, he was fully prepared to kill Ozai. Its not a WhatAnIdiot moment.
'''Not **'''Not really''', since he got a superb one-of-a-kind opportunity to end it all quickly with ligthning redirecting, and
'''Furtheremore''' ** '''Furthermore''' he is literraly literaly alone in the entire universe to be against killing Ozai: his best friends, his girlfriend, the son of the BigBad, FOUR old and wise spirits and even the gorram spirit of the world itself (who took over during the avatar state) wanted the bastard dead. And not a single soul had a problem with that. It really got silly, however, when Aang ask his past lives opinions and DISMISSED them because they're not what he WANTS to hear. Seriously WTF!?
** '''Actually''', only Yangchen outright told him to kill Ozai. The other three Avatars Aang consulted gave more ambiguous advice, like "be decisive" and stuff like that.
** '''And Let's Just Be Honest Here''', while ''Avatar'' is an excellent show that can cater to a bunch of demographics, it is largely aiming to be a kids show. And '''''no one''''' in that particular demographic wants to see an adorable twelve-year old murder a man in cold blood, regardless of his crimes.
** And of course, the difing defining idiocy of the series comes from Admiral Zhao during the first season finale. Zhao is invading the Northern Water Tribe in order to stop Aang from learning waterbending. Zhao is also aware that the Ocean and Moon spirits (the entities that power waterbending) are in the heart of the Tribe's city in the form of relatively harmless koi fish. Killing the Moon Spirit would destroy waterbending.\\



In a way, the birth of Serpentor is also an idiot move by Cobra.

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** In a way, the birth of Serpentor is also an idiot move by Cobra.



'''Triple-However:''' Like that would've stopped him if he really wanted [=Leshawna=] booted off.

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** '''Triple-However:''' Like that would've stopped him if he really wanted [=Leshawna=] booted off.



'''You'd expect''' The doctor would, y'know, ''fasten'' it on with a cast or something.\\

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** '''You'd expect''' The doctor would, y'know, ''fasten'' it on with a cast or something.\\
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'''Not really''', since he got a superb one-of-a-kind opportunity to end it all quickly with ligthning redirecting, and
'''Furtheremore''' he is literraly alone in the entire universe to be against killing Ozai: his best friends, his girlfriend, the son of the BigBad, FOUR old and wise spirits and even the gorram spirit of the world itself (who took over during the avatar state) wanted the bastard dead. And not a single soul had a problem with that. It really got silly, however, when Aang ask his past lives opinions and DISMISSED them because they're not what he WANTS to hear. Seriously WTF!?

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--> '''Chris''': "...And that's three votes for '''[=LeShawna=]'''!\\
'''Triple-However''': Like that would've stopped him if he really wanted [=Leshawna=] booted off.
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--> '''Chris''': "...And that's three votes for '''[=LeShawna=]'''!\\
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'''[=LeShawna=]'''!%%The quote may not have gone that way, but I assure you it happend.%%
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Like that would've stopped him if he really wanted [=Leshawna=] booted off.
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--> '''Chris''': "...And that's three votes for '''[=LeShawna=]'''!

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--> '''Chris''': "...And that's three votes for '''[=LeShawna=]'''!'''[=LeShawna=]'''!\\
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**In the New York episode of ''World Tour'', Heather is given a meat grinder as a reward for winning the challenge.
'''You'd Expect:''' Heather, the master strategist and self-proclaimed GenreSavvy would keep her prize safe, even if it appears to be useless. Besides its intended purpose, it can be sold, traded, dismantled, or even used as a blunt weapon.

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**In the New York episode of ''World Tour'', Heather is given a meat grinder as a reward for winning the challenge.
challenge.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Heather, the master strategist and self-proclaimed GenreSavvy would keep her prize safe, even if it appears to be useless. Besides its intended purpose, it can be sold, traded, dismantled, or even used as a blunt weapon.\\
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**In the New York episode of ''World Tour'', Heather is given a meat grinder as a reward for winning the challenge.
'''You'd Expect:''' Heather, the master strategist and self-proclaimed GenreSavvy would keep her prize safe, even if it appears to be useless. Besides its intended purpose, it can be sold, traded, dismantled, or even used as a blunt weapon.
'''Instead:''' She throws it out of the plane, just because she can. Lo and behold, the very next challenge is to make sausage; a task that would be monumentally easier for anyone who has meat grinder.

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