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'''You'd Expect:''' For Yoda to put two and two together, and realize that Palpatine is Dooku's master. Granted, this would be taking Dooku's word at face value, and that'd be fair reason for doubt at the start of the war, but by this point, the facts line up far more than they don't, as Palpatine has been the only one to really gain anything from the war (power that continually grows and is largely enabled by the Senate, prestige while the Jedi are slandered by the media, his position all but untouchable due to emergency powers), and because of the above, Dooku clearly isn't intending to defeat the republic outright.\\

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'''You'd Expect:''' For Yoda to put two and two together, and realize that Palpatine is Dooku's master. Granted, this would be taking Dooku's word at face value, and that'd be fair reason for doubt at the start of the war, but by this point, the facts line up far more than they don't, as Palpatine has been the only one to really gain anything from the war (power that continually grows and is largely enabled by the Senate, prestige while the Jedi are slandered by the media, his position all but untouchable due to emergency powers), and because of the above, Dooku clearly isn't intending to defeat the republic Republic outright.\\



'''The Result:''' Echo is able to trick Trench into a move that let's him shut off all the droids fighting on Anaxes by pretending to still be in the Techno Union's control.

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'''The Result:''' Echo is able to trick Trench into a move that let's lets him shut off all the droids fighting on Anaxes by pretending to still be in the Techno Union's control.

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'''Instead:''' He just follows Merrik, who still holds the detonator and is ''still'' holding Satine hostage, and does NOTHING about stopping him from blowing up the ship!

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'''Instead:''' He just follows Merrik, who still holds the detonator and is ''still'' holding Satine hostage, and does NOTHING about stopping him from blowing up the ship!ship!\\
'''Thankfully:''' Satine frees herself and takes his blaster, causing Merrik to change tactics and put pressure on both Obi-Wan, goading them into killing him, which leads to another situation.
** Tal Merrik still has the detonator to blow up the Coronet and is forcing Obi-Wan and/or Duchess Satine to kill him. He knows both are no strangers to violence having seen it throughout their lives, which would make them {{hypocrite}}s to their pacifist ways.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Merrik to immediately run and find a spaceship to escape the Coronet from before pressing the detonator and blow it up to hell. He has stated that even if he doesn't deliver the Duchess to Death Watch and the Separatists, he'd still fulfill his objective regardless.\\
'''Instead:''' He keeps goading them into killing him, and [[TemptingFate brags which one would brand themselves a cold-blooded killer]].\\
'''The Result:''' Anakin kills Merrik from behind before either Obi-Wan or Satine can do so, much to the former's annoyance.
-->'''Obi-Wan:''' Anakin...\\
'''Anakin:''' [[DefensiveWhat What?]] [[JerkassHasAPoint He was gonna blow up the ship!]]



'''Thankfully:''' After the Jedi subdue the Zillo Beast (albeit reluctantly), Palpatine is saved and [[HereWeGoAgain orders the Zillo Beast to be cloned]], much to Dr. Boiler's surprise.[[note]]Although, [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheBadBatch by the time of the Empire]], Palpatine simply learned his lesson and just has the beast cloned at Mount Tantiss on Weyland, rather than have it at back on Coruscant, no doubt not wanting a repeat of what happened in the Clone Wars.



'''It Gets Worse:''' Tamson collected all the prisoners his army captured during the earlier battles to make them watch Lee-Char's execution (clone troopers and gungans for whom the prince meant basically nothing, included) and he didn't even have them handcuffed!\\

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'''It Gets Worse:''' Tamson collected all the prisoners his army captured during the earlier battles to make them watch Lee-Char's execution (clone troopers and gungans Gungans for whom the prince meant basically nothing, included) and he didn't even have them handcuffed!\\



'''Instead:''' She trusts Nala Se to be the one to watch over Fives while Shaak Ti faces the entry point of the shuttle. Unfortunately, Nala Se makes Fives go crazy by injecting something into him and causes him to become delirious, making his claims about Order 66 sound like hallucinations. This leads to him getting framed and eventually getting gunned down by Commander Fox as he is about to reveal the truth to Anakin and Rex.

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'''Instead:''' She trusts Nala Se to be the one to watch over Fives while Shaak Ti faces the entry point of the shuttle. Unfortunately, Nala Se makes Fives go crazy by injecting something into him and causes him to become delirious, making his claims about Order 66 sound like hallucinations. This leads to him getting framed by Palpatine and eventually getting gunned down by Commander Fox as he is about to reveal the truth to Anakin and Rex.
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'''Alternatively:''' For them to continue the investigation into Fives' death. The trooper's death was beyond suspicious already, but knowing the Kaminoans are working for the enemy puts his death in a very, [[HeKnowsTooMuch very dark light]].

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'''Alternatively:''' For them to continue the investigation into Fives' death. The trooper's death was beyond suspicious already, but knowing the Kaminoans are working for the enemy puts his death in a very, [[HeKnowsTooMuch very dark light]].\\



'''You'd Expect:''' For Yoda to put two and two together, and realize that Palpatine is Dooku's master. Granted, this would be taking Dooku's word at face value, and that'd be fair reason for doubt at the start of the war, but by this point, the facts line up far more than they don't, as Palpatine has been the only one to really gain anything from the war (power that continually grows and is largely enabled by the senate, prestige while the Jedi are slandered by the media, his position all but untouchable due to emergency powers), and because of the above, Dooku clearly isn't intending to defeat the republic outright.

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'''You'd Expect:''' For Yoda to put two and two together, and realize that Palpatine is Dooku's master. Granted, this would be taking Dooku's word at face value, and that'd be fair reason for doubt at the start of the war, but by this point, the facts line up far more than they don't, as Palpatine has been the only one to really gain anything from the war (power that continually grows and is largely enabled by the senate, Senate, prestige while the Jedi are slandered by the media, his position all but untouchable due to emergency powers), and because of the above, Dooku clearly isn't intending to defeat the republic outright.\\
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* In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS2E18TheZilloBeast The Zillo Beast]]", the Republic's army has successfully captured and sedated the titular creature. Impressed by the Zillo Beast's [[NighInvulnerability nigh-impenetrable armor]], Palpatine wants to have the creature studied in hopes of replicating its armor for the Republic's military.\\

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* In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS2E18TheZilloBeast The Zillo Beast]]", the Republic's army has successfully captured and sedated the titular creature. Impressed by the Zillo Beast's [[NighInvulnerability nigh-impenetrable armor]], Palpatine wants to have the creature studied in hopes of replicating its armor for the Republic's military.military use.\\
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'''Alternatively:''' For them to continue the investigation into Fives' death. The trooper's death was beyond suspicious already, but knowing the Kaminoans are working for the enemy puts his death in a very, [[HeKnowsTooMuch very dark light]].


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* And even worst, in "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS6E11Voices Voices]]", Yoda hears the voice of none other than Sidious, who has been something of a ghost up until this point, sees some of his facial features, and the man sounds suspiciously like a certain power-hungry politician. He also sees the Jedi fighting the clones. Okay. So by this point, Yoda already knows (in fact, this chronologically isn't long after for two points) that the clones were commissioned by Dooku, that they have inhibitor chips that can "malfunction" to make them have an irrational hatred for Jedi, and by this point, the Jedi have become less trusting of Palpatine due to his increasing and seemingly insatiable power grabs (while hearing straight from Dooku that the Senate is under control of a Sith Lord). \\
'''You'd Expect:''' For Yoda to put two and two together, and realize that Palpatine is Dooku's master. Granted, this would be taking Dooku's word at face value, and that'd be fair reason for doubt at the start of the war, but by this point, the facts line up far more than they don't, as Palpatine has been the only one to really gain anything from the war (power that continually grows and is largely enabled by the senate, prestige while the Jedi are slandered by the media, his position all but untouchable due to emergency powers), and because of the above, Dooku clearly isn't intending to defeat the republic outright.
'''Instead:''' This doesn't occur to Yoda.
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'''Instead:''' This little tidbit apparently seems to completely slip their minds and they put her on trial while ''never'' bringing it up.\\
** Further, while it's not entirely clear what the limits of Force telepathy are, it's certainly been established multiple times that Jedi can tell when someone is lying to them.

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'''Instead:''' This little tidbit apparently seems to completely slip their minds and they put her on trial while ''never'' bringing it up.\\
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** Further, while it's not entirely clear what the limits of Force telepathy are, it's certainly been established multiple times that Jedi can tell when someone is lying to them. \\
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** Further, while it's not entirely clear what the limits of Force telepathy are, it's certainly been established multiple times that Jedi can tell when someone is lying to them.
'''You'd Expect:''' That twelve of the most powerful telepaths in the galaxy would rely on more than circumstantial evidence and use the Force to see if Ahsoka is guilty. Even if they can't read her mind outright, it would definitely be possible to see if she's telling the truth and examine her emotional state.\\
'''Instead:''' They arrest her based solely on circumstantial evidence. While this would be entirely understandable in the case of an Earth trial, it goes past arrogance and into flat-out stupidity on the part of the Jedi Council and nearly results in Ahsoka being executed for a crime she didn't commit.\\
'''Even Worse:''' They make the decision to find her guilty ''before the trial even begins'' and never allow her any attempts to defend herself, which Anakin calls them out on.
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'''As A Result:''' He gets {{Blackmail}}ed, manipulated by Dooku, framed as a Sepratist ally, and when he dies, he goes down in history as traitor who brought war to the world that took him in.\\

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'''As A Result:''' He gets {{Blackmail}}ed, manipulated by Dooku, framed as a Sepratist ally, and when he dies, he goes down in history as a traitor who brought war to the world that took him in.\\
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'''Instead:''' She trusts Nala Se to be the one to watch over Fives while Shaak Ti faces the entry point of the shuttle. Unfortunately, Nala Se makes Fives go crazy by injecting something into him and causes him to be unable to tell anyone about Order 66. This leads to him getting framed and eventually getting gunned down by Commander Fox as he is about to reveal the truth to Anakin and Rex.

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'''Instead:''' She trusts Nala Se to be the one to watch over Fives while Shaak Ti faces the entry point of the shuttle. Unfortunately, Nala Se makes Fives go crazy by injecting something into him and causes him to be unable to tell anyone become delirious, making his claims about Order 66.66 sound like hallucinations. This leads to him getting framed and eventually getting gunned down by Commander Fox as he is about to reveal the truth to Anakin and Rex.
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Jedi don’t appear to be able to read minds. They can sense emotions but were unable to read Cad Bane’s and Poggle’s mind in prior interrogations. Only dark siders like Kylo Ren and Snoke have been seen gathering specific information from minds, with much pain to the victim.


'''As A Result:''' This leads to the below point.
** After she's captured, Ahsoka is put on trial before the Jedi Council for the bombing.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That twelve of the most powerful telepaths in the galaxy would rely on more than circumstantial evidence through the fact that [[ForgotAboutHisPowers they could just read her mind and find out whether or not she's responsible.]]\\
'''Instead:''' They arrest her based solely on circumstantial evidence. While this would be entirely understandable in the case of an Earth trial, it goes past arrogance and into flat-out stupidity on the part of the Jedi Council and nearly results in Ahsoka being executed for a crime she didn't commit.\\
'''Even Worse:''' They make the decision to find her guilty ''before the trial even begins'' and never allow her any attempts to defend herself, which Anakin calls them out on.
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Just like the films, ''The Clone Wars'' has a galaxy's worth of stupid moments as a result of being a work in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' franchise.

Click [[WhatAnIdiot/StarWars here]] to go to the films' WhatAnIdiot page.

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Just like the films, ''The Clone Wars'' has [[DarthWiki/WhatAnIdiot a galaxy's worth of stupid moments moments]] as a result of being a work in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' franchise.

Click [[WhatAnIdiot/StarWars here]] to go to the films' WhatAnIdiot page.
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'''Instead:''' All three of them employ ForgotAboutHisPowers (a recurring problem throughout the series) and instead are forced into an EnemyMine situation and ultimately need to be saved by Jar Jar [[TheScrappy of all characters]].

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'''Instead:''' All three of them employ ForgotAboutHisPowers (a recurring problem throughout the series) and instead are forced into an EnemyMine situation and ultimately need to be saved by Jar Jar Binks [[TheScrappy of all characters]].



'''You'd Think:''' Padme Amidala, as one of the foremost opponents of the bill, would consider that she might be a target. Get some security. Or at least get a trusted friend to hang around. Or if nothing else, when offered a ride home by someone she trusts, accept it. At the absolute bare minimum, try to stay in safe areas.\\

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'''You'd Think:''' Padme Padmé Amidala, as one of the foremost opponents of the bill, would consider that she might be a target. Get some security. Or at least get a trusted friend to hang around. Or if nothing else, when offered a ride home by someone she trusts, accept it. At the absolute bare minimum, try to stay in safe areas.\\



* In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS4E3Prisoners Prisoners]]", Anakin and Kit Fisto are captured by Riff Tamson and he imprisons them in a couple of cages made from very dangerous electric eels, which he uses for interrogation Anakin and Kit. Tamson refuses to help Padmé from drowning due to a cracked helmet, claiming that he doesn't have to, and he exits the room. Anakin and Kit Fisto manage to create a bubble for Padmé to breath in to prevent her from drowning, but Jar-Jar uses his spit to seal the crack. So that clearly means Jedi can still use the Force under water.\\

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* In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS4E3Prisoners Prisoners]]", Anakin and Kit Fisto are captured by Riff Tamson and he imprisons them in a couple of cages made from very dangerous electric eels, which he uses for interrogation Anakin and Kit. Tamson refuses to help Padmé from drowning due to a cracked helmet, claiming that he doesn't have to, and he exits the room. Anakin and Kit Fisto manage to create a bubble for Padmé to breath in to prevent her from drowning, but Jar-Jar Jar Jar uses his spit to seal the crack. So that clearly means Jedi can still use the Force under water.\\



'''You'd Expect:''' That during either of these meetings, the Council would remember and point out that Ashoka was off-world on what was presumably a lengthy campaign when the temple was bombed as reason to exonerate her. The Senate and Military might want a culprit and she is undoubtedly suspicious based on the footage of her with Letta and attempts to escape, but it's doubtful they could argue to accuse someone with a solid alibi. At the very least, it should warrant that Ashoka merely be kept in detention while further investigation is conducted.\\

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'''You'd Expect:''' That during either of these meetings, the Council would remember and point out that Ashoka Ahsoka was off-world on what was presumably a lengthy campaign when the temple was bombed as reason to exonerate her. The Senate and Military might want a culprit and she is undoubtedly suspicious based on the footage of her with Letta and attempts to escape, but it's doubtful they could argue to accuse someone with a solid alibi. At the very least, it should warrant that Ashoka Ahsoka merely be kept in detention while further investigation is conducted.\\



'''Thankfully''': Padme talks him down and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone Anakin regrets his actions]], while Clovis finally realizes that Padme's relationship is legit and [[KnowWhenToFoldEm never makes any more romantic advances]], while he [[SecretKeeper keeps said relationship a secret]].

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'''Thankfully''': Padme Padmé talks him down and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone Anakin regrets his actions]], while Clovis finally realizes that Padme's Padmé's relationship is legit and [[KnowWhenToFoldEm never makes any more romantic advances]], while he [[SecretKeeper keeps said relationship a secret]].



'''Even Worse:''' He does ''nothing'' to help in convincing Anakin of his innocence by taking Padme hostage, holding her at gunpoint, and demanding she vouch for his innocence.

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'''Even Worse:''' He does ''nothing'' to help in convincing Anakin of his innocence by taking Padme Padmé hostage, holding her at gunpoint, and demanding she vouch for his innocence.



'''You'd Expect:''' The Senate to remember that he's betrayed the Republic for the Separatists once already, thank him for the information, and slap him in a somewhat more comfortable cell while they bargain for another candidate. ''Especially'' Padme, who almost got killed by his last betrayal.\\
'''Instead:''' The Senate cheerfully votes to confirm him. Padme supports his nomination and earnestly believes he's being honest.\\

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'''You'd Expect:''' The Senate to remember that he's betrayed the Republic for the Separatists once already, thank him for the information, and slap him in a somewhat more comfortable cell while they bargain for another candidate. ''Especially'' Padme, Padmé, who almost got killed by his last betrayal.\\
'''Instead:''' The Senate cheerfully votes to confirm him. Padme Padmé supports his nomination and earnestly believes he's being honest.\\
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'''Instead:''' The Jedi discuss the troubling implications of this for a bit, but decide the clone troopers have proven themselves and so continue to trust them completely. No one follows up up on this.\\
'''As A Result:''' Darth Sidious and Count Dooku are able to maintain the Order 66 protocol as a secret from the members of the Jedi Order until it is too late for them to learn about and prevent it from happening, which will eventually result in a massive Jedi massacre.

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'''Instead:''' The Jedi discuss the troubling implications of this for a bit, but decide the clone troopers have proven themselves and so continue to trust them completely. No one follows up up on this.this, and in fact the Jedi hide this fact from the public and the Senate.\\
'''As A a Result:''' Darth Sidious and Count Dooku are able to maintain the Order 66 protocol as a secret from the members of the Jedi Order until it is too late for them to learn about and prevent it from happening, which will eventually result in a massive Jedi massacre.
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* In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E10LairOfGrievous Lair of Grievous]]", after Kit Fisto, Nahdar Vebb, and their clone troopers (including Commander Fil) are unable to retreat from Grievous' lair, Commander Fil contacts the two clone troopers watching Kit Fisto's fighter and Nahdar’s shuttle, Niner and Bel. He tells them to contact the fleet at Bestine to tell them that they engaged Grievous and require reinforcements. Unfortunately, three Magnaguards are watching the clone troopers.\\

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* In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E10LairOfGrievous Lair of Grievous]]", after Kit Fisto, Nahdar Vebb, and their clone troopers (including Commander Fil) are unable to retreat from Grievous' Grievous's lair, Commander Fil contacts the two clone troopers watching Kit Fisto's fighter and Nahdar’s shuttle, Niner and Bel. He tells them to contact the fleet at Bestine to tell them that they engaged Grievous and require reinforcements. Unfortunately, three Magnaguards are watching the clone troopers.\\
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* After his thorough asskicking by Anakin, Clovis is contacted by Count Dooku, who offers to help him with his ambitions to take control of the banking clan.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Clovis would think for a second, and consider that maybe Dooku putting him in power over the banking clan would make for the perfect {{Blackmail}} material to force him to show bias towards the Separatist faction, as well as destroy the Republic's newfound faith in him if it gets leaked.\\
'''Instead:''' [[DidntThinkThisThrough He takes the deal.]]\\
'''As A Result:''' He gets {{Blackmail}}ed, manipulated by Dooku, framed as a Sepratist ally, and when he dies, he goes down in history as traitor who brought war to the world that took him in.\\
'''Even Worse:''' He does ''nothing'' to help in convincing Anakin of his innocence by taking Padme hostage, holding her at gunpoint, and demanding she vouch for his innocence.

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* During the aforementioned story arc, Ahsoka is on trial before the Jedi Council for the bombing.\\

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** When Admiral Tarkin contacts the Council, he describes the details of Ahsoka's escape and murder of several Clone Troopers and demands that she be arrested and placed in military custody. And later when
Ahsoka is captured, he contacts them again to all but demand that they expel Ahsoka from the order and be put on military trial.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That during either of these meetings, the Council would remember and point out that Ashoka was off-world on what was presumably a lengthy campaign when the temple was bombed as reason to exonerate her. The Senate and Military might want a culprit and she is undoubtedly suspicious based on the footage of her with Letta and attempts to escape, but it's doubtful they could argue to accuse someone with a solid alibi. At the very least, it should warrant that Ashoka merely be kept in detention while further investigation is conducted.\\
'''Instead:''' This little tidbit apparently seems to completely slip their minds and they put her on trial while ''never'' bringing it up.\\
'''As A Result:''' This leads to the below point.
** After she's captured, Ahsoka is put
on trial before the Jedi Council for the bombing.\\



'''So Then You'd Expect:''' The entire Council would admit that they made a mistake and apologize to Ahsoka for what they unjustly put her through.\\

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'''So Then You'd '''Even Worse:''' They make the decision to find her guilty ''before the trial even begins'' and never allow her any attempts to defend herself, which Anakin calls them out on.
** After some investigation on Anakin's part, which leads to the arrest of Barriss Offee as the true culprit, Ahsoka is found innocent of her previous crimes.\\
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'''Instead:''' She trusts Nala Se to be the one to watch over Fives while Shaak Ti faces the entry point of the shuttle. Unfortunately, Nala Se makes Fives go crazy by injecting something into him and causes him to be unable to tell anyone about Order 66. And this leads him getting framed and eventually getting gunned down by Commander Fox as he was about to reveal the truth to Anakin and Rex.

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'''Instead:''' She trusts Nala Se to be the one to watch over Fives while Shaak Ti faces the entry point of the shuttle. Unfortunately, Nala Se makes Fives go crazy by injecting something into him and causes him to be unable to tell anyone about Order 66. And this This leads to him getting framed and eventually getting gunned down by Commander Fox as he was is about to reveal the truth to Anakin and Rex.



'''Thankfully''': Padme talks him down and [[MyGodWhatIHaveDone Anakin regrets his actions]], while Clovis finally realizes that Padme's relationship is legit and [[KnowWhenToFoldEm never makes any more romantic advances]], while he [[SecretKeeper keeps said relationship a secret]].

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'''Thankfully''': Padme talks him down and [[MyGodWhatIHaveDone [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone Anakin regrets his actions]], while Clovis finally realizes that Padme's relationship is legit and [[KnowWhenToFoldEm never makes any more romantic advances]], while he [[SecretKeeper keeps said relationship a secret]].
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'''As A Result''': Anakin almost beats Clovis to death.
'''Thankfully''': Padme talks him down and [[MyGodWhatIHaveDone Anakin regrets his actions]], while Clovis finally realizes that Padme's relationship is legit and [[KnowWhenToFoldEm never makes any more romantic advances]], while he [[SecretKeeper keeps said relationship a secret]].\\
* From the same arc, Clovis, a known traitor last seen in bed with the Separatists, has presented evidence of major corruption in the Banking Clan. As a high-ranking bank official himself, he's now one of the top candidates for the banks' new leader, but the Senate must vote to confirm him.
'''You'd Expect:''' The Senate to remember that he's betrayed the Republic for the Separatists once already, thank him for the information, and slap him in a somewhat more comfortable cell while they bargain for another candidate. ''Especially'' Padme, who almost got killed by his last betrayal.
'''Instead:''' The Senate cheerfully votes to confirm him. Padme supports his nomination and earnestly believes he's being honest.
'''As A Result''': Clovis is naturally being manipulated by Count Dooku. He's not in office a day before Dooku has him jack up interest rates on the Republic, threatening them with financial disaster.\\

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'''As A Result''': Anakin almost beats Clovis to death.
death.\\
'''Thankfully''': Padme talks him down and [[MyGodWhatIHaveDone Anakin regrets his actions]], while Clovis finally realizes that Padme's relationship is legit and [[KnowWhenToFoldEm never makes any more romantic advances]], while he [[SecretKeeper keeps said relationship a secret]].\\

* From the same arc, Clovis, a known traitor last seen in bed with the Separatists, has presented evidence of major corruption in the Banking Clan. As a high-ranking bank official himself, he's now one of the top candidates for the banks' new leader, but the Senate must vote to confirm him.
him.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The Senate to remember that he's betrayed the Republic for the Separatists once already, thank him for the information, and slap him in a somewhat more comfortable cell while they bargain for another candidate. ''Especially'' Padme, who almost got killed by his last betrayal.
betrayal.\\
'''Instead:''' The Senate cheerfully votes to confirm him. Padme supports his nomination and earnestly believes he's being honest.
honest.\\
'''As A Result''': Clovis is naturally being manipulated by Count Dooku. He's not in office a day before Dooku has him jack up interest rates on the Republic, threatening them with financial disaster.\\
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'''Thankfully''': Padme talks him down and [[MyGodWhatIHaveDone? Anakin regrets his actions]], while Clovis finally realizes that Padme's relationship is legit and [[KnowWhenToFoldEm never makes any more romantic advances]], while he [[SecretKeeper keeps said relationship a secret]].

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'''Thankfully''': Padme talks him down and [[MyGodWhatIHaveDone? [[MyGodWhatIHaveDone Anakin regrets his actions]], while Clovis finally realizes that Padme's relationship is legit and [[KnowWhenToFoldEm never makes any more romantic advances]], while he [[SecretKeeper keeps said relationship a secret]]. secret]].\\



'''As A Result''': Clovis is naturally being manipulated by Count Dooku. He's not in office a day before Dooku has him jack up interest rates on the Republic, threatening them with financial disaster.

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'''Thankfully''': Padme talks him down and [[MyGodWhatIHaveDone? Anakin regrets his actions]], while Clovis finally realizes that Padme's relationship is legit and [[KnowWhenToFoldEm never makes any more romantic advances]], while he [[SecretKeeper keeps said relationship a secret]].
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* From the same arc, Clovis, a known traitor last seen in bed with the Separatists, has presented evidence of major corruption in the Banking Clan. As a high-ranking bank official himself, he's now one of the top candidates for the banks' new leader, but the Senate must vote to confirm him.
'''You'd Expect:''' The Senate to remember that he's betrayed the Republic for the Separatists once already, thank him for the information, and slap him in a somewhat more comfortable cell while they bargain for another candidate. ''Especially'' Padme, who almost got killed by his last betrayal.
'''Instead:''' The Senate cheerfully votes to confirm him. Padme supports his nomination and earnestly believes he's being honest.
'''As A Result''': Clovis is naturally being manipulated by Count Dooku. He's not in office a day before Dooku has him jack up interest rates on the Republic, threatening them with financial disaster.
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* In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS3E11PursuitOfPeace]]", there's a big vote approaching for a military expansion bill. Someone's been attacking and roughing up senators who might vote against the bill.\\

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* In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS3E11PursuitOfPeace]]", there's a big vote approaching for a military expansion bill. Someone's been attacking and roughing up senators who might vote against the bill.\\
'''You'd Think:''' Padme Amidala, as one of the foremost opponents of the bill, would consider that she might be a target. Get some security. Or at least get a trusted friend to hang around. Or if nothing else, when offered a ride home by someone she trusts, accept it. At the absolute bare minimum, try to stay in safe areas.\\
'''Instead:''' She turns down Bail Organa's offer of a ride home, takes a night-time stroll alone through a dark and deserted section of the city, steps into a dark alley, and is promptly attacked by two bounty hunters.
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[[folder:Season Seven]]
* During "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS7E3OnTheWingsOfKeeradaks On the Wings of Keeradaks]]" Anakin and Rex, with some help from the Bad Batch, have managed to rescue Echo, who the Techno Union was using to predict Republic movements and counter them.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That after Echo is off the planet, Wat Tambor would ''immediately'' warn Admiral Trench, who had been using Echo to help him on Anaxes, that he is no longer of use.\\
'''Instead:''' Wat Tambor choses to keep it hidden so that the Techno Union can keep its numbers up.\\
'''The Result:''' Echo is able to trick Trench into a move that let's him shut off all the droids fighting on Anaxes by pretending to still be in the Techno Union's control.
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* In "Downfall of a Droid", Anakin is given a new astromech droid that is an R3 unit after losing R2-D2 during the Battle of Bothawui. It proves to be completely incompetent because it's secretly a Separatist spy.\\

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* In "Downfall "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E6DownfallOfADroid Downfall of a Droid", Droid]]", Anakin is given a new astromech droid that is an R3 unit after losing R2-D2 during the Battle of Bothawui. It proves to be completely incompetent because it's secretly a Separatist spy.\\



** Also, earlier in "Downfall of a Droid", Anakin is able to get authorization from Obi-Wan to find R2 because R2 has vital intelligence on the Republic military in violation of protocols. Anakin does this deliberately since mind-wiping R2 per protocol would take away the quality which makes R2 so effective.\\

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** Also, earlier in "Downfall "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E6DownfallOfADroid Downfall of a Droid", Droid]]", Anakin is able to get authorization from Obi-Wan to find R2 because R2 has vital intelligence on the Republic military in violation of protocols. Anakin does this deliberately since mind-wiping R2 per protocol would take away the quality which makes R2 so effective.\\



'''Even Worse:''' Anakin doesn't learn from this mistake. In "Evil Plans", Cad Bane manages to capture R2 and download information on the Republic Senate Building, which helps him stage the Senate hostage crisis later.
* In "Duel of the Droids", Captain Rex threw an EMP grenade at a group of Super Battle Droids, who reasonably attempt to shoot it so it doesn't go off (which fails). Then, he did the same to another group of Battle Droids who had just witnessed this.\\
'''You'd Think:''' If nothing else, this group of Battle Droids would do the same or kick/throw the grenade back.\\
'''Instead:''' One of the Battle Droids proceeds to pick the grenade up as if it's a mysterious device and they predictably get zapped.
* In "Cloak of Darkness", Commander Gree fights the traitorous Senate Commando Captain Argyus, who has freed Nemodian Separatist Viceroy Nute Gunray. During one point in the fight, Argyus kicks Commander Gree, knocking his helmet off. Gree eventually beats down Argyus.\\

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'''Even Worse:''' Anakin doesn't learn from this mistake. In "Evil Plans", "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS3E8EvilPlans Evil Plans]]", Cad Bane manages to capture R2 and download information on the Republic Galactic Senate Building, which helps him stage the Senate hostage crisis later.
* In "Duel "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E7DuelOfTheDroids Duel of the Droids", Droids]]", Captain Rex threw an EMP grenade at a group of Super Battle Droids, super battle droids, who reasonably attempt to shoot it so it doesn't go off (which fails). Then, he did the same to another group of Battle Droids battle droids who had just witnessed this.\\
'''You'd Think:''' If nothing else, this group of Battle Droids battle droids would do the same or kick/throw the grenade back.\\
'''Instead:''' One of the Battle Droids battle droids proceeds to pick the grenade up as if it's a mysterious device and they predictably get zapped.
* In "Cloak "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E9CloakOfDarkness Cloak of Darkness", Darkness]]", Commander Gree fights the traitorous Senate Commando Captain Argyus, who has freed Nemodian Separatist Viceroy Nute Gunray. During one point in the fight, Argyus kicks Commander Gree, knocking his helmet off. Gree eventually beats down Argyus.\\



* "Lair of Grievous": After Kit Fisto, Nahdar Vebb, and their Clone Troopers (including Commander Fil) are unable to retreat from Grievous' lair, Commander Fil contacts the two Clone Troopers watching Kit Fisto's fighter and Nahdar’s shuttle, Niner and Bel. He tells them to contact the fleet at Bestine to tell them that they engaged Grievous and require reinforcements. Unfortunately, three Magnaguards are watching the Clone Troopers.\\

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* "Lair In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E10LairOfGrievous Lair of Grievous": After Grievous]]", after Kit Fisto, Nahdar Vebb, and their Clone Troopers clone troopers (including Commander Fil) are unable to retreat from Grievous' lair, Commander Fil contacts the two Clone Troopers clone troopers watching Kit Fisto's fighter and Nahdar’s shuttle, Niner and Bel. He tells them to contact the fleet at Bestine to tell them that they engaged Grievous and require reinforcements. Unfortunately, three Magnaguards are watching the Clone Troopers.clone troopers.\\



* In "Dooku Captured", a group of Weequay pirates called the Ohnaka Gang have captured Count Dooku and ransom him to the Republic. Anakin and Obi-Wan come to collect him and are asked to turn over their lightsabers.\\

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* In "Dooku Captured", "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E11DookuCaptured Dooku Captured]]", a group of Weequay pirates called the Ohnaka Gang have captured Count Dooku and ransom him to the Republic. Anakin and Obi-Wan come to collect him and are asked to turn over their lightsabers.\\



* In "The Gungan General": Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Dooku are held hostage by the Weequay pirates and need to escape. There are multiple occasions throughout the episode where using the Force would be greatly beneficial (such as breaking their restraints, leaping over a wall, overpowering guards).\\

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* In "The "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E12TheGunganGeneral The Gungan General": General]]", Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Dooku are held hostage by the Weequay pirates and need to escape. There are multiple occasions throughout the episode where using the Force would be greatly beneficial (such as breaking their restraints, leaping over a wall, overpowering guards).\\



** From the same episode, Obi-Wan and Anakin finally gain the upper hand and have Hondo Ohnaka (the leader of the Weequay pirates) at their mercy.\\

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** From the same episode, In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E12TheGunganGeneral The Gungan General]]", Obi-Wan and Anakin finally gain the upper hand and have Hondo Ohnaka (the leader of the Weequay pirates) at their mercy.\\



* "Hostage Crisis": Anakin visits his secret wife, Padmé. During the first scene with the two of them, Anakin gave his lightsaber to Padmé as a proof of his love. They get interrupted by Bail Organa and C-3PO, forcing Anakin to hide under her desk.\\

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* "Hostage Crisis": In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E22HostageCrisis Hostage Crisis]]", Anakin visits his secret wife, Padmé. During the first scene with the two of them, Anakin gave his lightsaber to Padmé as a proof of his love. They get interrupted by Bail Organa and C-3PO, forcing Anakin to hide under her desk.\\



'''The Result:''' Because of this, Cad Bane manages to get away with the hostage crisis.
** In the same episode, Bane has Anakin unconscious and captured and tosses him in with the Senators. He then plans to blow them all up to eliminate witnesses and leave no survivors.\\

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'''The Result:''' Because of this, Cad Bane manages to get away with the Senate hostage crisis.
** In the same episode, "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E22HostageCrisis Hostage Crisis]]", Bane has Anakin unconscious and captured and tosses him in with the Senators. He then plans to blow them all up to eliminate witnesses and leave no survivors.\\



** Also in "Hostage Crisis", Commander Fox and his Clone Troopers try to apprehend Cad Bane as he leaves the Senate Building. Cad Bane threatens to blow up the hostages if they don't stand down, so they do. Bane and his posse walk off.\\

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** Also in "Hostage Crisis", "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E22HostageCrisis Hostage Crisis]]", Commander Fox and his Clone Troopers clone troopers try to apprehend Cad Bane as he leaves the Senate Building. Cad Bane threatens to blow up the hostages if they don't stand down, so they do. Bane and his posse walk off.\\



* "Holocron Heist": Cad Bane has Todo 360 create a hole to go to the communications center, while Cad Bane blows up the gate to the holocron vault. An explosion goes off. Anakin and Obi-Wan see the hole Todo made, but unfortunately, the holocron vault gate has been opened.\\

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* "Holocron Heist": In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS2E1HolocronHeist Holocron Heist]]", Cad Bane has Todo 360 create a hole to go to the communications center, while Cad Bane blows up the gate to the holocron vault. An explosion goes off. Anakin and Obi-Wan see the hole Todo made, but unfortunately, the holocron vault gate has been opened.\\



* "Cargo of Doom": After Ahsoka is knocked out and captured by Cad Bane, he uses her as Jedi-bait to lure Anakin into an unfair deal. If he doesn't unlock the holocron for Cad Bane, he'll open the airlock door and Ahsoka will be pulled out into space and die. Anakin ends up submitting to Bane's request (despite Ahsoka not wanting Anakin to do it, which is sort of like a "forget about me and save yourself and the holocron!" type thing) and drops his lightsaber on the ground, saying "We'll deal with the holocron later."\\

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* "Cargo In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS2E2CargoOfDoom Cargo of Doom": After Doom]]", after Ahsoka is knocked out and captured by Cad Bane, he uses her as Jedi-bait to lure Anakin into an unfair deal. If he doesn't unlock the holocron for Cad Bane, he'll open the airlock door and Ahsoka will be pulled out into space and die. Anakin ends up submitting to Bane's request (despite Ahsoka not wanting Anakin to do it, which is sort of like a "forget about me and save yourself and the holocron!" type thing) and drops his lightsaber on the ground, saying "We'll deal with the holocron later."\\



* "Children of the Force": Cad Bane kidnaps two Force-sensitive infants, using information from the holocron that Anakin opened in the previous episode. He manages to wipe clean the navigation records so that the Jedi don't discover that he went to Mustafar.\\

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* "Children In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS2E3ChildrenOfTheForce Children of the Force": Force]]", Cad Bane kidnaps two Force-sensitive infants, using information from the holocron that Anakin opened in the previous episode. He manages to wipe clean the navigation records so that the Jedi don't discover that he went to Mustafar.\\



** Also in this episode, Obi-Wan and Mace Windu go to Black Stall Station -- after interrogating Cad Bane -- to get the holocron back. Bane says "There is your precious holocron". Mace prevents him from going to get it because he doesn't want anymore of his tricks. However, there is a laser field in the floor that will set off the alarm.\\

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** Also in this episode, "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS2E3ChildrenOfTheForce Children of the Force]]", Obi-Wan and Mace Windu go to Black Stall Station -- after interrogating Cad Bane -- to get the holocron back. Bane says "There is your precious holocron". Mace prevents him from going to get it because he doesn't want anymore of his tricks. However, there is a laser field in the floor that will set off the alarm.\\



* In "Landing at Point Rain", the Jedi launch a massive attack to destroy the shield generator of a massive weapons factory, which they plan to destroy in "Weapons Factory".\\

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* In "Landing "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS2E5LandingAtPointRain Landing at Point Rain", Rain]]", the Jedi launch a massive attack to destroy the shield generator of a massive weapons factory, which they plan to destroy in "Weapons Factory"."[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS2E6WeaponsFactory Weapons Factory]]".\\



* In "Legacy of Terror", Anakin and Obi-Wan head to the catacombs of the Geonosian Temple to try and save Luminara, who has been captured by the Genonosian Queen, Karina, with a legion of near unkillable undead Geonosians at her back while trying to capture Separatist leader Poggle. Karina intends to infest her with a Brain Worm and control her. Anakin and Obi-Wan walk up to the queen and attempt to talk to her, right in the middle of a group of those nigh unkillable Geonosians.\\

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* In "Legacy "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS2E7LegacyOfTerror Legacy of Terror", Terror]]", Anakin and Obi-Wan head to the catacombs of the Geonosian Temple to try and save Luminara, who has been captured by the Genonosian Queen, Karina, with a legion of near unkillable undead Geonosians at her back while trying to capture Separatist leader Poggle. Karina intends to infest her with a Brain Worm and control her. Anakin and Obi-Wan walk up to the queen and attempt to talk to her, right in the middle of a group of those nigh unkillable Geonosians.\\



* In "Lightsaber Lost", a pickpocket stole Ahsoka's lightsaber. After a long investigation, she finds it in the hands of an amateurish bounty hunter named Cassie Cryar.\\

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* In "Lightsaber Lost", "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS2E11LightsaberLost Lightsaber Lost]]", a pickpocket stole Ahsoka's lightsaber. After a long investigation, she finds it in the hands of an amateurish bounty hunter named Cassie Cryar.\\



* In "The Mandalore Plot", Obi-Wan gets knocked out and captured by a couple of Death Watch members on Concordia while he investigated a mining facility to see if it is abandoned and not operational. They then put Obi-Wan on a ConveyorBeltODoom.\\

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* In "The "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS2E12TheMandalorePlot The Mandalore Plot", Plot]]", Obi-Wan gets knocked out and captured by a couple of Death Watch members on Concordia while he investigated a mining facility to see if it is abandoned and not operational. They then put Obi-Wan on a ConveyorBeltODoom.\\



* In "Voyage of Temptation", when Obi-Wan finally finds Tal Merrick (who kidnapped the Duchess of Mandalore, Satine), he demands that Merrick should surrender and release the duchess. Senator Merrick then shows that he holds a remote detonator and has set explosives on the ship. One press of a button, and everybody on it is blown to kingdom come. And this puts pressure on Obi-Wan.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Obi-Wan to simply use the Force to disarm Senator Merrick by grabbing his detonator remote and pistol, saving Satine.\\
'''Instead:''' He just follows Merrick, who still holds the detonator and is ''still'' holding Satine hostage, and does NOTHING about stopping him from blowing up the ship!
* "The Zillo Beast": At the end of the episode, the Republic's army has successfully captured and sedated the titular creature. Impressed by the Zillo Beast's [[NighInvulnerability nigh-impenetrable armor]], Palpatine wants to have the creature studied in hopes of replicating its armor for the Republic’s military.\\

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* In "Voyage "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS2E13VoyageOfTemptation Voyage of Temptation", Temptation]]", when Obi-Wan finally finds Tal Merrick Merrik (who kidnapped the Duchess of Mandalore, Satine), he demands that Merrick should surrender and release the duchess. Senator Merrick Merrik then shows that he holds a remote detonator and has set explosives on the ship. One press of a button, and everybody everyone on it is blown to kingdom come. And this puts pressure on Obi-Wan.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Obi-Wan to simply use the Force to disarm Senator Merrick Merrik by grabbing his detonator remote and pistol, saving Satine.\\
'''Instead:''' He just follows Merrick, Merrik, who still holds the detonator and is ''still'' holding Satine hostage, and does NOTHING about stopping him from blowing up the ship!
* "The In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS2E18TheZilloBeast The Zillo Beast": At the end of the episode, Beast]]", the Republic's army has successfully captured and sedated the titular creature. Impressed by the Zillo Beast's [[NighInvulnerability nigh-impenetrable armor]], Palpatine wants to have the creature studied in hopes of replicating its armor for the Republic’s Republic's military.\\



'''Instead:''' In a truly egregious example of grabbing the IdiotBall, Palpatine has the Zillo Beast brought directly to Coruscant, the Republic’s capital world and one of the most densely populated planets in the galaxy.\\
'''Even Worse''': Instead of confining the Zillo Beast in an abandoned area of Coruscant (like the Works), Palpatine decides to have the creature studied in a facility that’s located in the middle of Galactic City and near the Senate building.\\

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'''Instead:''' In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS2E19TheZilloBeastStrikesBack The Zillo Beast Strikes Back]]" (in a truly egregious example of grabbing the IdiotBall, IdiotBall), Palpatine has the Zillo Beast brought directly to Coruscant, the Republic’s Republic's capital world and one of the most densely populated planets in the galaxy.\\
'''Even Worse''': Instead of confining the Zillo Beast in an abandoned area of Coruscant (like the Works), Palpatine decides to have the creature studied in a facility that’s that's located in the middle of Galactic City and near the Senate building.\\



* In "The Academy", Ahsoka infiltrates a Mandalorian prison to free Satine after the [[EvilChancellor corrupt prime minister]] named Almec imprisons her. Almec and his guards eventually catch Ahsoka in the act, revealing that the mind tricks don't actually work on his guards and, as a result, revealed herself (in his eyes) as a conspirator. He then hits her with a stun blast from one of the auto turrets in the room. Ahsoka is captured afterwards.\\

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* In "The Academy", "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS3E6TheAcademy The Academy]]", Ahsoka infiltrates a Mandalorian prison to free Satine after the [[EvilChancellor corrupt prime minister]] named Almec imprisons her. Almec and his guards eventually catch Ahsoka in the act, revealing that the mind tricks don't actually work on his guards and, as a result, revealed herself (in his eyes) as a conspirator. He then hits her with a stun blast from one of the auto turrets in the room. Ahsoka is captured afterwards.\\



* In "Altar of Mortis", when Obi-Wan throws Anakin the Dagger of Mortis to use it to kill the Son of Mortis, Ahsoka, who was corrupted by the Dark Side as a result of the Son biting her, catches it. The Son tells Ahsoka to give him the Dagger so he can use it to kill the Father of Mortis.\\

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* In "Altar "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS3E16AltarOfMortis Altar of Mortis", Mortis]]", when Obi-Wan throws Anakin the Dagger of Mortis to use it to kill the Son of Mortis, Ahsoka, who was corrupted by the Dark Side as a result of the Son biting her, catches it. The Son tells Ahsoka to give him the Dagger so he can use it to kill the Father of Mortis.\\



* "Counterattack": The Jedi and their Clone Troopers are attempting to escape from the Citadel on Lola Sayu. A commando droid mans one of the turrets and is ready to destroy the shuttle, which is the group's one way ticket out.\\

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* "Counterattack": The In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS3E19Counterattack Counterattack]]", the Jedi and their Clone Troopers clone troopers are attempting to escape from the Citadel on Lola Sayu. A commando droid mans one of the turrets and is ready to destroy the shuttle, which is the group's one way ticket out.\\



* In "Padawan Lost", the Republic and the Separatists are battling on Felucia.\\

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* In "Padawan Lost", "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS3E21PadawanLost Padawan Lost]]", the Republic and the Separatists are battling on Felucia.\\



* "Prisoners": After Anakin and Kit Fisto are captured by Riff Tamson, he imprisons them in a couple of cages made from very dangerous electric eels and uses them for interrogation. Tamson refuses to help Padmé from drowning due to a cracked helmet, claiming that he doesn't have to, and he exits the room. Anakin and Kit Fisto manage to create a bubble for Padmé to breath in to prevent her from drowning, but Jar-Jar uses his spit to seal the crack. So that clearly means Jedi can still use the Force under water.\\

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* "Prisoners": After In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS4E3Prisoners Prisoners]]", Anakin and Kit Fisto are captured by Riff Tamson, Tamson and he imprisons them in a couple of cages made from very dangerous electric eels and eels, which he uses them for interrogation.interrogation Anakin and Kit. Tamson refuses to help Padmé from drowning due to a cracked helmet, claiming that he doesn't have to, and he exits the room. Anakin and Kit Fisto manage to create a bubble for Padmé to breath in to prevent her from drowning, but Jar-Jar uses his spit to seal the crack. So that clearly means Jedi can still use the Force under water.\\



** Also in "Prisoners", when Prince Lee-Char is caught and demands to have an audience with Riff Tamson and Nossor Ri, he tries to convince him about the unity between the Quarren and Mon Calamari once had when his father was king, and how he worked with Nossor Ri on having a better relationship. However, the words seemed to be in vain. Riff knows that Lee-Char is the symbol of hope for the Mon Calamari people. His plan: kill him and kill hope for the Mon Calamari by executing him.\\

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** Also in "Prisoners", "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS4E3Prisoners Prisoners]]", when Prince Lee-Char is caught and demands to have an audience with Riff Tamson and Nossor Ri, he tries to convince him about the unity between the Quarren and Mon Calamari once had when his father was king, and how he worked with Nossor Ri on having a better relationship. However, the words seemed to be in vain. Riff knows that Lee-Char is the symbol of hope for the Mon Calamari people. His plan: kill him and kill hope for the Mon Calamari by executing him.\\



'''It Gets Worse:''' Tamson collected all the prisoners his army captured during the earlier battles to make them watch Lee-Char's execution (Clone Troopers and gungans for whom the prince meant basically nothing, included) and he didn't even have them handcuffed!\\

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'''It Gets Worse:''' Tamson collected all the prisoners his army captured during the earlier battles to make them watch Lee-Char's execution (Clone Troopers (clone troopers and gungans for whom the prince meant basically nothing, included) and he didn't even have them handcuffed!\\



* In "Carnage of Krell", the Clone Troopers attempt to arrest Krell for treason, who escapes from the base easily and runs into the dark and foggy jungle.\\

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* In "Carnage "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS4E10CarnageOfKrell Carnage of Krell", Krell]]", the Clone Troopers clone troopers attempt to arrest Krell for treason, who escapes from the base easily and runs into the dark and foggy jungle.\\



'''Instead:''' He starts slaughtering the Clone Troopers who followed him, apparently just ForTheEvulz. You could say that he engaged them to prevent them from pursuing, except for the fact that the Clone Troopers admittedly had problems following him even on a short run. He could've escaped them easily.\\
'''It Gets Worse:''' When it became apparent that the Clone Troopers are absolutely no match for Krell, Tup pulled a BringIt ploy while standing right next to a [[CombatTentacles Combat Tentacled]] ManEatingPlant.\\
'''You'd Think:''' Krell, who was pursuing other Clone Troopers, would casually use the Force and break Tup's neck or something similar from afar.\\

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'''Instead:''' He starts slaughtering the Clone Troopers clone troopers who followed him, apparently just ForTheEvulz. You could say that he engaged them to prevent them from pursuing, except for the fact that the Clone Troopers clone troopers admittedly had problems following him even on a short run. He could've escaped them easily.\\
'''It Gets Worse:''' When it became apparent that the Clone Troopers clone troopers are absolutely no match for Krell, Tup pulled a BringIt ploy while standing right next to a [[CombatTentacles Combat Tentacled]] ManEatingPlant.\\
'''You'd Think:''' Krell, who was pursuing other Clone Troopers, clone troopers, would casually use the Force and break Tup's neck or something similar from afar.\\



* "Slaves of the Republic":

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* "Slaves "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS4E12SlavesOfTheRepublic Slaves of the Republic":Republic]]":



* In "Tipping Points", King Dendup and his body guards are trapped inside the cave the rebels used as an HQ, with droids outside. The cave only has one narrow tunnel as an entrance, which could be protected easily from the inside.\\

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* In "Tipping Points", "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS5E5TippingPoints Tipping Points]]", King Dendup and his body guards are trapped inside the cave the rebels used as an HQ, with droids outside. The cave only has one narrow tunnel as an entrance, which could be protected easily from the inside.\\



* In "A Necessary Bond", General Grievous is dueling Ahsoka and he grabs her head in one of his fully prehensile robotic feet.\\

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* In "A "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS5E9ANecessaryBond A Necessary Bond", Bond]]", General Grievous is dueling Ahsoka and he grabs her head in one of his fully prehensile robotic feet.\\



* In "Eminence", when Maul and Pre Vizsla talk about the fact that Death Watch is waiting to retake Mandalore, Maul offers that he could help Pre Vizsla with that task. Pre Vizsla likes this idea because he can then punish Obi-Wan Kenobi for being the cause of their exile from the Mandalore system and that he and Maul have a common enemy. Bo-Katan doesn't like the idea of working with Maul because Sith can't be trusted as a result of the fact that Death Watch ended up concluding its working relationship with Count Dooku after failing to takeover Mandalore during the events of the second season. \\

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* In "Eminence", "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS5E14Eminence Eminence]]", when Maul and Pre Vizsla talk about the fact that Death Watch is waiting to retake Mandalore, Maul offers that he could help Pre Vizsla with that task. Pre Vizsla likes this idea because he can then punish Obi-Wan Kenobi for being the cause of their exile from the Mandalore system and that he and Maul have a common enemy. Bo-Katan doesn't like the idea of working with Maul because Sith can't be trusted as a result of the fact that Death Watch ended up concluding its working relationship with Count Dooku after failing to takeover Mandalore during the events of the second season. \\



** Also in "Eminence", Maul, Savage, Pre Vizsla, and Death Watch go to Mustafar to recruit the Black Sun into the Shadow Collective. The council of the Black Sun says no, claiming that they are no mercenaries. Savage then breaks one of the guards' neck and throws his corpse on the table. Maul then warns the council saying, "This is your last opportunity to join us."\\

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** Also in "Eminence", "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS5E14Eminence Eminence]]", Maul, Savage, Pre Vizsla, and Death Watch go to Mustafar to recruit the Black Sun into the Shadow Collective. The council of the Black Sun says no, claiming that they are no mercenaries. Savage then breaks one of the guards' neck and throws his corpse on the table. Maul then warns the council saying, "This is your last opportunity to join us."\\



* In "Shades of Reason", Pre Vizsla and Death Watch's plan on taking over Mandalore gets completed. Maul then arrives and Vizsla betrays him by arresting him.\\

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* In "Shades "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS5E15ShadesOfReason Shades of Reason", Reason]]", Pre Vizsla and Death Watch's plan on taking over Mandalore gets completed. Maul then arrives and Vizsla betrays him by arresting him.\\



* In "The Jedi Who Knew Too Much", Ahsoka gets framed for murdering Letta, the saboteur who bombed the Temple, which also makes her the prime suspect of being the mastermind behind the bombing. A while later in her cell, she spots a keycard lying in front of her cell door and her lightsabers.\\

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* In "The "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS5E18TheJediWhoKnewTooMuch The Jedi Who Knew Too Much", Much]]", Ahsoka gets framed for murdering Letta, the saboteur who bombed the Temple, which also makes her the prime suspect of being the mastermind behind the bombing. A while later in her cell, she spots a keycard lying in front of her cell door and her lightsabers.\\



* In "To Catch a Jedi", Ahsoka is on the run from the authorities because she has been framed by a Dark Jedi who is eventually revealed to be Barriss Offee.\\

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* In "To "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS5E19ToCatchAJedi To Catch a Jedi", Jedi]]", Ahsoka is on the run from the authorities because she has been framed by a Dark Jedi who is eventually revealed to be Barriss Offee.\\



* During the Fugitive arc in the fifth season, a hanger in the Jedi Temple gets bombed. The perpetrator is revealed at the end of the arc as Barriss Offee, Luminara Unduli's Padawan. In the second to last episode "To Catch a Jedi", while Barriss goes to the abandoned warehouse that she sent Ahsoka to, she knocks out Asajj Ventress and takes Ventress's mask and lightsabers.\\

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* During the Fugitive arc in the fifth season, a hanger in arc, the Jedi Temple hangar gets bombed. The perpetrator is revealed at the end of the arc as Barriss Offee, Luminara Unduli's Padawan. In the second to last episode "To "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS5E19ToCatchAJedi To Catch a Jedi", Jedi]]", while Barriss goes to the abandoned warehouse that she sent Ahsoka to, she knocks out Asajj Ventress and takes Ventress's mask and lightsabers.\\



'''Instead:''' She just takes Ventress's mask and lightsabers, [[BondVillainStupidity but DOES NOT kill Ventress]]. She also doesn't get rid of Ventress's lightsabers.\\

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'''Instead:''' She just takes Ventress's Ventress' mask and lightsabers, [[BondVillainStupidity but DOES NOT kill Ventress]]. She also doesn't get rid of Ventress's Ventress' lightsabers.\\



* In "The Rise of Clovis", Clovis discovers the truth about Anakin and Padmé's relationship and knows that Anakin could be expelled from the Jedi Order for it. Padmé insists they're just friends, so Clovis tries to get her to prove it by kissing her. Anakin walks in and goes berserk on Clovis, using the Force to toss him against the wall.\\

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* In "The "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS6E6TheRiseOfClovis The Rise of Clovis", Clovis]]", Clovis discovers the truth about Anakin and Padmé's relationship and knows that Anakin could be expelled from the Jedi Order for it. Padmé insists they're just friends, so Clovis tries to get her to prove it by kissing her. Anakin walks in and goes berserk on Clovis, using the Force to toss him against the wall.\\



'''As a Result''': Anakin almost beats Clovis to death.
* In "The Lost One", the Jedi discover the person who commissioned their clone army was none other than Count Dooku.\\

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'''As a A Result''': Anakin almost beats Clovis to death.
* In "The "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS6E10TheLostOne The Lost One", One]]", the Jedi discover the person who commissioned their clone army was none other than Count Dooku.\\



'''Instead:''' The Jedi discuss the troubling implications of this for a bit, but decide the Clone Troopers have proven themselves and so continue to trust them completely. No one follows up up on this.\\

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'''Instead:''' The Jedi discuss the troubling implications of this for a bit, but decide the Clone Troopers clone troopers have proven themselves and so continue to trust them completely. No one follows up up on this.\\
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Just like the theatrical films, ''The Clone Wars'' has a galaxy's worth of stupid moments as a result of being a ''Franchise/StarWars'' installment.

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Just like the theatrical films, ''The Clone Wars'' has a galaxy's worth of stupid moments as a result of being a work in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' installment.
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* "Lair of Grievous": After Kit Fisto, Nahdar Vebb, and their Clone Troopers (including Commander Fil) are unable to retreat from Grievous's lair, Commander Fil contacts the two Clone Troopers watching Kit Fisto's fighter and Nahdar’s shuttle, Niner and Bel. He tells them to contact the fleet at Bestine to tell them that they engaged Grievous and require reinforcements. Unfortunately, three Magnaguards are watching the Clone Troopers.\\

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* "Lair of Grievous": After Kit Fisto, Nahdar Vebb, and their Clone Troopers (including Commander Fil) are unable to retreat from Grievous's Grievous' lair, Commander Fil contacts the two Clone Troopers watching Kit Fisto's fighter and Nahdar’s shuttle, Niner and Bel. He tells them to contact the fleet at Bestine to tell them that they engaged Grievous and require reinforcements. Unfortunately, three Magnaguards are watching the Clone Troopers.\\



'''The Result:''' Hondo gets away scott free, is never shown to have learned any kind of lesson from this and even, in his next appearence, kills an innocent person. This could have been entirely avoided if Obi-Wan had just done his job!

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'''The Result:''' Hondo gets away scott free, free and is never shown to have learned any kind of lesson from this and even, in his next appearence, kills an innocent person.this. This could have been entirely avoided if Obi-Wan had just done his job!



* "The Zillo Beast": At the end of the episode, the Republic’s army has successfully captured and sedated the titular creature. Impressed by the Zillo Beast’s [[NighInvulnerability nigh-impenetrable armor]], Palpatine wants to have the creature studied in hopes of replicating its armor for the Republic’s military.\\

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* "The Zillo Beast": At the end of the episode, the Republic’s Republic's army has successfully captured and sedated the titular creature. Impressed by the Zillo Beast’s Beast's [[NighInvulnerability nigh-impenetrable armor]], Palpatine wants to have the creature studied in hopes of replicating its armor for the Republic’s military.\\
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* "Dooku Captured": Some pirates have caputred Count Dooku and ransom him to the Republic. Anakin and Obi-Wan come to collect him and are asked to turn over their lightsabers.\\

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* In "Dooku Captured": Some Captured", a group of Weequay pirates called the Ohnaka Gang have caputred captured Count Dooku and ransom him to the Republic. Anakin and Obi-Wan come to collect him and are asked to turn over their lightsabers.\\



* "Gungan General": Anakin, Obi-Wan and Dooku are held hostage by pirates and need to escape. There are multiple occasions throughout the episode where using the Force would be greatly beneficial (such as breaking their restraints, leaping over a wall, overpowering guards).\\

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* "Gungan In "The Gungan General": Anakin, Obi-Wan Obi-Wan, and Dooku are held hostage by the Weequay pirates and need to escape. There are multiple occasions throughout the episode where using the Force would be greatly beneficial (such as breaking their restraints, leaping over a wall, overpowering guards).\\



** From the same episode, Obi-Wan and Anakin finally gain the upper hand and have Hondo, leader of the pirates at their mercy.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' For the Jedi to place the pirates under arrest on the charges of luring them in under false pretenses, drugging them without their knowledge and against their will, wrongful imprisonment and torture. Even Hondo expects this to happen, indicating that this would be perfectly within a Jedi's rights to do.\\

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** From the same episode, Obi-Wan and Anakin finally gain the upper hand and have Hondo, Hondo Ohnaka (the leader of the pirates Weequay pirates) at their mercy.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' For the Jedi to place the pirates under arrest on the charges of luring them in under false pretenses, drugging them without their knowledge and against their will, wrongful imprisonment imprisonment, and torture. Even Hondo expects this to happen, indicating that this would be perfectly within a Jedi's rights to do.\\
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'''Instead:''' They hand over their weapons without question or protest and later get captured so the pirates can hold ''them'' to ransom as well.\\

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'''Instead:''' They hand over their weapons without question or protest and later get captured so the pirates can hold ''them'' to ransom as well.\\
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'''The Result:''' Hondo gets away scott free, is never shown to have learned any kind of lesson from this and even, in his next appearence, kills an innocent person. This could have been entirely avoided if Obi-Wan had just done his job!\\

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'''The Result:''' Hondo gets away scott free, is never shown to have learned any kind of lesson from this and even, in his next appearence, kills an innocent person. This could have been entirely avoided if Obi-Wan had just done his job!\\job!

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