History WesternAnimation / BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker

24th Aug '16 5:00:00 AM JackG
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* TheTriple:
** Dee Dee meeting Bruce Wayne. "Well, if it isn't old Mr Wayne. So debonair. So dapper. ''(knee him in stomach)'' So decrepit!"
** Terry as to why the Joker is NotQuiteDead. "Clone? Robot? Suspended animation due to floating around in a block of ice?"
4th Aug '16 12:51:58 AM dieseldragons
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* HypocriticalHeartwarming: Unintentionally invoked by the Joker. During his VillainousBreakdown he screams [[spoiler: at Terry he's not Batman]]. Doesn't matter how professional you are, how well you fight, or even how much you can easily piss the Joker off, to him, [[WorthyOpponent only Bruce is Batman]].

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* HypocriticalHeartwarming: Unintentionally invoked by the Joker. During his VillainousBreakdown he screams [[spoiler: at Terry he's not Batman]]. Doesn't matter how professional you are, how well you fight, or even how much you can easily piss the Joker off, to him, [[WorthyOpponent only Bruce is Batman]]. Anyone else who takes up his cape and cowl is a punk and an amateur.
4th Aug '16 12:44:07 AM dieseldragons
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* HypocriticalHeartwarming: Unintentionally invoked by the Joker. During his VillainousBreakdown he screams [[spoiler: at Terry he's not Batman]]. Doesn't matter how professional you are, how well you fight, or even how much you can easily piss the Joker off, to him, [[WorthOpponent only Bruce is Batman]].

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* HypocriticalHeartwarming: Unintentionally invoked by the Joker. During his VillainousBreakdown he screams [[spoiler: at Terry he's not Batman]]. Doesn't matter how professional you are, how well you fight, or even how much you can easily piss the Joker off, to him, [[WorthOpponent [[WorthyOpponent only Bruce is Batman]].
4th Aug '16 12:41:51 AM dieseldragons
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* HypocriticalHeartwarming: Unintentionally invoked by the Joker. During his VillainousBreakdown he screams [[spoiler: at Terry he's not Batman]]. Doesn't matter how professional you are, how well you fight, or even how much you can easily piss the Joker off, to him, [[WorthOpponent only Bruce is Batman]].
19th Jul '16 12:34:54 AM drac0blade
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* WrongGenreSavvy: While the Joker knows Bruce almost as well as a best friend (he did have access to Tim's memories) and could predict his actions very well, Terry makes it a point to let the Joker know that he doesn't know much about himself while [[CombatPragmatist kneeing the Joker]] [[GroinAttack in the Crotch]]. More than that, Terry had and outsiders perspective on the Joker though with in-depth knowledge from studying Bruce's old files, which meant he could more objectively find the flaws in the joker's thinking and planning without the serious personal history that the original Batman had with the Joker. Since most of the joker's plans revolve around goading Batman and making it [[ItsPersonal personal]] to cloud Bruce's judgement and lure him into traps, this is utterly ineffective against terry who just sees Joker as a clown. [[VillainousBreakdown The Joker doesn't take Terry's lack of respect well.]]

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* WrongGenreSavvy: While the Joker knows Bruce almost as well as a best friend (he did have access to Tim's memories) and could predict his actions very well, Terry makes it a point to let the Joker know that he doesn't know much about himself while [[CombatPragmatist kneeing the Joker]] [[GroinAttack in the Crotch]]. More than that, Terry had and outsiders an outsiders' perspective on the Joker though with in-depth knowledge from studying Bruce's old files, which meant he could more objectively find the flaws in the joker's Joker's thinking and planning without the serious personal history that the original Batman had with the Joker. Since most of the joker's Joker's plans revolve around goading Batman and making it [[ItsPersonal personal]] to cloud Bruce's judgement and lure him into traps, this is utterly ineffective against terry Terry who just sees Joker as a clown. [[VillainousBreakdown The Joker doesn't take Terry's lack of respect well.]]
19th Jul '16 12:31:37 AM drac0blade
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* WhoWearsShortShorts: Dee Dee twins wears white shorts.

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* WhoWearsShortShorts: The Dee Dee twins wears wear white short shorts.
19th Jul '16 12:20:21 AM drac0blade
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* OutsideContextProblem: Terry becomes this to defeat the Joker once and for all. Joker is so used to dealing with Bruce's Batman (who is a stoic, honor bound fighter with a strict no kill policy) that [[VillainousBreakdown he loses it]] when Terry mocks and gives him a vicious ReasonYouSuckSpeech that utterly {{Deconstruct}}s him. Terry also have no problem fighting dirty and revoking the JokerImmunity.

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* OutsideContextProblem: Terry becomes this to defeat the Joker once and for all. Joker is so used to dealing with Bruce's Batman (who is a stoic, honor bound fighter with a strict no kill policy) that [[VillainousBreakdown he loses it]] when Terry mocks and gives him a vicious ReasonYouSuckSpeech that utterly {{Deconstruct}}s him. Terry also have has no problem fighting dirty and revoking the JokerImmunity.
19th Jul '16 12:16:43 AM drac0blade
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** Subverted with [[spoiler:Harley Quinn. In the flashback where we see the Joker's death, we also see Harley fall into a deep dark pit, and don't see her again for the rest of the flashback, so you can assume that she also died. Yet at the very end, we see that she is apparently alive and kicking and raising the two Didis from the Jokerz as an old lady.]]

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** Subverted with [[spoiler:Harley Quinn. In the flashback where we see the Joker's death, we also see Harley fall into a deep dark pit, and don't see her again for the rest of the flashback, so you can assume that she also died. Yet at the very end, we see that she is apparently alive and kicking and raising the two Didis Dee Dees from the Jokerz as an old lady.]]
18th Jul '16 11:51:20 PM drac0blade
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* {{Bowdlerise}}: The frenzy surrounding UsefulNotes/{{Columbine}} in 1999 resulted in extensive debates on media influences, which put some pressure on Warner Bros. Despite having a completed film, executives feared backlash on releasing a particularly violent animated movie and had certain scenes reanimated (which is different than normal, as it resulted in ''new'' material being written instead of simply cutting material). The original film was released later under a PG-13 rating but even the edited version isn't particularly "kid-friendly," the majority of the differences is minor edits including digitally removing blood, changing bits dialogue implying death/insanity/sexuality/swear words and trimming some of the more bone-crunching violence (including turning the "bang" flag gun murder of Bonk into a gas gun). The most significant edit comes in the flashback [[spoiler:where Tim shoots the Joker with the "bang" flag gun, whereas in the edited version he threw the gun away and attacked the Joker into the lab space, who ended up soaked in water, covered in wires, slipping and grabbing a switch, electrocuting himself]].

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* {{Bowdlerise}}: The frenzy surrounding UsefulNotes/{{Columbine}} in 1999 resulted in extensive debates on media influences, which put some pressure on Warner Bros. Despite having a completed film, executives feared backlash on releasing a particularly violent animated movie and had certain scenes reanimated (which is different than normal, as it resulted in ''new'' material being written instead of simply cutting material). The original film was released later under a PG-13 rating but even the edited version isn't particularly "kid-friendly," the majority of the differences is minor edits including digitally removing blood, changing bits of dialogue implying death/insanity/sexuality/swear words and trimming some of the more bone-crunching violence (including turning the "bang" flag gun murder of Bonk into a gas gun). The most significant edit comes in the flashback [[spoiler:where Tim shoots the Joker with the "bang" flag gun, whereas in the edited version he threw the gun away and attacked the Joker into the lab space, who ended up soaked in water, covered in wires, slipping and grabbing a switch, electrocuting himself]].
14th Jul '16 7:06:23 PM KnownUnknown
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* NotSoStoic: The look of shock and absolute ''horror'' on Bruce's face when Joker first presents himself, especially after Joker indirectly confirms his identity by [[{{Archenemy}} addressing him personally.]]
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