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* ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}'': Friend Computer means well. It wants citizens to be happy and safe. It wants this so much that it jam-packs Alpha Complex with drugs and security cameras and armed enforcers. It's just ''really'' insane and ''really'' misinformed, and also prioritizes the (perceived) [[TheNeedsOfTheMany needs of the group]] over the needs of the individual (who can be [[CloningBlues replaced]]).
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}'': Friend Computer means well. It wants citizens to be happy and safe. It wants this so much that it jam-packs Alpha Complex with drugs and security cameras and armed enforcers. It's just ''really'' insane and ''really'' misinformed, and also prioritizes the (perceived) [[TheNeedsOfTheMany needs of the group]] over the needs of the individual (who can be [[CloningBlues replaced]]).replaced).
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*** The Ashbound druid sect believe in [[NatureHero the Power of Nature]]. Well, they are druids after all. The "extremist" part kicks in when you consider that they believe that the best way to protect nature is to ''ban all arcane magic, burn down all the cities, and go back to living in mud huts''. They can be any alignment (well, any of the Neutral variants at least, being mainly Druids and all), so they feature both the genuinely well-intentioned NeutralGood ecoterrorists and the rather less pleasant NeutralEvil ones who just like watching cities burn.
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*** The Ashbound druid sect believe in [[NatureHero the Power of Nature]]. Well, they are druids after all. The "extremist" part kicks in when you consider that they believe that the best way to protect nature is to ''ban all arcane magic, burn down all the cities, and go back to living in mud huts''. They can be any alignment (well, any of the Neutral variants at least, being mainly Druids and all), so they feature both the genuinely well-intentioned [[invoked]] NeutralGood ecoterrorists and the rather less pleasant NeutralEvil ones who just like watching cities burn.
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* ''TabletopGame/CardfightVanguard'': After a lifetime of seeing its corruption first hand as one of its knights, Youthberk now seeks to tear down the classist dictatorship he once served, Keter Sanctuary. He quickly establishes himself as a folk hero and wherever he appears, the cheers of the downtrodden masses soon follow. However, his lore mentions he's targeting the Cloud Knights in particular. The Cloud Knights are lead by Bastion, who is one of the few knights in the Keter Sanctuary military who gives a damn about the common people.
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* ''TabletopGame/CardfightVanguard'': After a lifetime of seeing its corruption first hand as one of its knights, Youthberk now seeks to tear down the classist dictatorship he once served, Keter Sanctuary. He quickly establishes himself as a folk hero and wherever he appears, the cheers of the downtrodden masses soon follow. However, his lore mentions he's targeting the Cloud Knights in particular. The Cloud Knights are lead by Bastion, who is one of the few knights in the Keter Sanctuary military who gives a damn about the common people. He's also willing to let the World Tree that supplies the whole country with clean water die when he's told that he's the only one who can save it, because doing so would mean having to work with Bastion and putting the revolution at risk.
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* ''TabletopGame/CardfightVanguard'': After a lifetime of seeing its corruption first hand as one of its knights, Youthberk now seeks to tear down the classist dictatorship he once served, Keter Sanctuary. He quickly establishes himself as a folk hero and wherever he appears, the cheers of the downtrodden masses soon follow. However, his lore mentions he's targeting the Cloud Knights in particular. The Cloud Knights are lead by Bastion, who is one of the few knights in the Keter Sanctuary military who gives a damn about the common people.
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* The Lizard Men faction of TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'s goals are sympathetic (purging Chaos/Skaven, trying to follow the plans of the Old Ones), but their methods are ruthless. They once thought the continents needed to be rearranged the way they were when the Old Ones were still around, never mind the dwarf empire that was a bulwark against the myriad evil forces living in those mountains. [[spoiler:And with the ''TabletopGame/AgeOfSigmar'' rolling in, it was AllForNothing.]]
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* The Lizard Men faction of TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'s ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'''s goals are sympathetic (purging Chaos/Skaven, trying to follow the plans of the Old Ones), but their methods are ruthless. They once thought the continents needed to be rearranged the way they were when the Old Ones were still around, never mind the dwarf empire that was a bulwark against the myriad evil forces living in those mountains. [[spoiler:And with the ''TabletopGame/AgeOfSigmar'' rolling in, it was AllForNothing.]]
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* The prestige class "Walker of the Waste" from the ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' ''Sandstorm'' sourcebook can be this. They seek to dry out the world. but only to make it a safe place for the people of the wastes, who are so adversely effected by water that some can drown in the rain.
* In the TabletopGame/{{Eberron}} setting for ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'':
** The Ashbound druid sect believe in [[NatureHero the Power of Nature]]. Well, they are druids after all. The "extremist" part kicks in when you consider that they believe that the best way to protect nature is to ''ban all arcane magic, burn down all the cities, and go back to living in mud huts''. They can be any alignment (well, any of the Neutral variants at least, being mainly Druids and all), so they feature both the genuinely well-intentioned NeutralGood ecoterrorists and the rather less pleasant NeutralEvil ones who just like watching cities burn.
** Another of the five druidic sects, the Children of Winter, are dedicated to wiping out civilisation as part of their belief in SocialDarwinism. They believe that people can only survive if the weak are winnowed out and the Mourning represents the approaching "Winter" of the world itself. As a result, they unleash famines, plagues, pestilence and all other sorts of natural disasters in the name of "the greater good".
** Queen Aurala also fits this. Well Intentioned? Really devoted to her people and wants to help the whole world. Extremist? She will consider every possibility to make her dream possible, including war.
** Some Dragon Below cults believe they're serving a greater good - the Vigilant Eye think the [[EyesDoNotBelongThere eyes they just sprouted on their left palms]] let them see hidden demons among the populace, for example (and considering [[AncientConspiracy the Lords of Dust]] they may not actually be wrong), which tends to lead to a bunch of vigilante murders.
* Firewall in ''TabletopGame/EclipsePhase''. 10 years ago [[TheSingularity the]] [[RobotWar Fall]] left earth a wasteland inhabited by killer robots, nanoswarms, and borderline Eldritch Abominations, and the total population of the off-world colonies that survived are less than a billion. Firewall is an inter-faction conspiracy dedicated to preventing the extinction of what's left of humanity at all costs, to the point of nuking entire habitats in order to contain X-risks. Their Sentinels (including most player characters) are often sent on suicide missions, [[BodyBackupDrive multiple times]].
* In the TabletopGame/{{Eberron}} setting for ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'':
** The Ashbound druid sect believe in [[NatureHero the Power of Nature]]. Well, they are druids after all. The "extremist" part kicks in when you consider that they believe that the best way to protect nature is to ''ban all arcane magic, burn down all the cities, and go back to living in mud huts''. They can be any alignment (well, any of the Neutral variants at least, being mainly Druids and all), so they feature both the genuinely well-intentioned NeutralGood ecoterrorists and the rather less pleasant NeutralEvil ones who just like watching cities burn.
** Another of the five druidic sects, the Children of Winter, are dedicated to wiping out civilisation as part of their belief in SocialDarwinism. They believe that people can only survive if the weak are winnowed out and the Mourning represents the approaching "Winter" of the world itself. As a result, they unleash famines, plagues, pestilence and all other sorts of natural disasters in the name of "the greater good".
** Queen Aurala also fits this. Well Intentioned? Really devoted to her people and wants to help the whole world. Extremist? She will consider every possibility to make her dream possible, including war.
** Some Dragon Below cults believe they're serving a greater good - the Vigilant Eye think the [[EyesDoNotBelongThere eyes they just sprouted on their left palms]] let them see hidden demons among the populace, for example (and considering [[AncientConspiracy the Lords of Dust]] they may not actually be wrong), which tends to lead to a bunch of vigilante murders.
* Firewall in ''TabletopGame/EclipsePhase''. 10 years ago [[TheSingularity the]] [[RobotWar Fall]] left earth a wasteland inhabited by killer robots, nanoswarms, and borderline Eldritch Abominations, and the total population of the off-world colonies that survived are less than a billion. Firewall is an inter-faction conspiracy dedicated to preventing the extinction of what's left of humanity at all costs, to the point of nuking entire habitats in order to contain X-risks. Their Sentinels (including most player characters) are often sent on suicide missions, [[BodyBackupDrive multiple times]].
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* ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'':
** The Walker of the Waste prestige class"Walker of the Waste" from the ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' ''Sandstorm'' sourcebook can be this. They seek to dry out the world. but only to make it a safe place for the people of the wastes, who are so adversely effected by water that some can drown in the rain.
* In the TabletopGame/{{Eberron}} setting for ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'':
** ''TabletopGame/{{Eberron}}'':
*** The Ashbound druid sect believe in [[NatureHero the Power of Nature]]. Well, they are druids after all. The "extremist" part kicks in when you consider that they believe that the best way to protect nature is to ''ban all arcane magic, burn down all the cities, and go back to living in mud huts''. They can be any alignment (well, any of the Neutral variants at least, being mainly Druids and all), so they feature both the genuinely well-intentioned NeutralGood ecoterrorists and the rather less pleasant NeutralEvil ones who just like watching cities burn.
** *** Another of the five druidic sects, the Children of Winter, are dedicated to wiping out civilisation as part of their belief in SocialDarwinism. They believe that people can only survive if the weak are winnowed out and the Mourning represents the approaching "Winter" of the world itself. As a result, they unleash famines, plagues, pestilence and all other sorts of natural disasters in the name of "the greater good".
** *** Queen Aurala also fits this. Well Intentioned? Really devoted to her people and wants to help the whole world. Extremist? She will consider every possibility to make her dream possible, including war.
** *** Some Dragon Below cults believe they're serving a greater good - the Vigilant Eye think the [[EyesDoNotBelongThere eyes they just sprouted on their left palms]] let them see hidden demons among the populace, for example (and considering [[AncientConspiracy the Lords of Dust]] they may not actually be wrong), which tends to lead to a bunch of vigilante murders.
* Firewall ** ''TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'':
*** Most members of the anarchic Revolutionary League are viewed this way, at least by non-members. (And this is considered one of the mainstream Factions in''TabletopGame/EclipsePhase''. 10 the setting.)
*** The setting also mentions a rather odd group like this called the Opposers. Their goal is to oppose ''every'' political, moral, ethical, and philosophical idea except their own, and they believe this will actually help people. Why? Well, they think that an idea can only succeed and its supporters can only become strong if they have to ''fight'' to support it. In other words, opposition makes you strong. As you might expect, this group doesn't have many friends or allies (nor do they want any -- they ''want'' people to oppose them too). PlayerCharacters can actually join this group if they want to; the only requirement (other than holding to its controversial philosophy of opposing everything) is actually one that makes sense: you must be True Neutral in alignment. (Being Good, Evil, Lawful, or Chaotic obviously defeats the purpose.)
* ''TabletopGame/EclipsePhase'': Firewall. Ten yearsago ago, [[TheSingularity the]] [[RobotWar Fall]] left earth Earth a wasteland inhabited by killer robots, nanoswarms, and borderline Eldritch Abominations, {{Eldritch Abomination}}s, and the total population of the off-world colonies that survived are less than a billion. Firewall is an inter-faction conspiracy dedicated to preventing the extinction of what's left of humanity at all costs, to the point of nuking entire habitats in order to contain X-risks. Their Sentinels (including most player characters) are often sent on suicide missions, [[BodyBackupDrive multiple times]].
** The Walker of the Waste prestige class
*** The Ashbound druid sect believe in [[NatureHero the Power of Nature]]. Well, they are druids after all. The "extremist" part kicks in when you consider that they believe that the best way to protect nature is to ''ban all arcane magic, burn down all the cities, and go back to living in mud huts''. They can be any alignment (well, any of the Neutral variants at least, being mainly Druids and all), so they feature both the genuinely well-intentioned NeutralGood ecoterrorists and the rather less pleasant NeutralEvil ones who just like watching cities burn.
*** Most members of the anarchic Revolutionary League are viewed this way, at least by non-members. (And this is considered one of the mainstream Factions in
*** The setting also mentions a rather odd group like this called the Opposers. Their goal is to oppose ''every'' political, moral, ethical, and philosophical idea except their own, and they believe this will actually help people. Why? Well, they think that an idea can only succeed and its supporters can only become strong if they have to ''fight'' to support it. In other words, opposition makes you strong. As you might expect, this group doesn't have many friends or allies (nor do they want any -- they ''want'' people to oppose them too). PlayerCharacters can actually join this group if they want to; the only requirement (other than holding to its controversial philosophy of opposing everything) is actually one that makes sense: you must be True Neutral in alignment. (Being Good, Evil, Lawful, or Chaotic obviously defeats the purpose.)
* ''TabletopGame/EclipsePhase'': Firewall. Ten years
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'':
** Most members of the anarchic Revolutionary League are viewed this way, at least by non-members. (And this is considered one of the mainstream Factions in the setting.)
** The setting also mentions a rather odd group like this called the Opposers. Their goal is to oppose ''every'' political, moral, ethical, and philosophical idea except their own, and they believe this will actually help people. Why? Well, they think that an idea can only succeed and its supporters can only become strong if they have to ''fight'' to support it. In other words, opposition makes you strong. As you might expect, this group doesn't have many friends or allies (nor do they want any - they ''want'' people to oppose them too). PlayerCharacters can actually join this group if they want to; the only requirement (other than holding to its controversial philosophy of opposing everything) is actually one that makes sense: you must be True Neutral in alignment. (Being Good, Evil, Lawful, or Chaotic obviously defeats the purpose.)
** Most members of the anarchic Revolutionary League are viewed this way, at least by non-members. (And this is considered one of the mainstream Factions in the setting.)
** The setting also mentions a rather odd group like this called the Opposers. Their goal is to oppose ''every'' political, moral, ethical, and philosophical idea except their own, and they believe this will actually help people. Why? Well, they think that an idea can only succeed and its supporters can only become strong if they have to ''fight'' to support it. In other words, opposition makes you strong. As you might expect, this group doesn't have many friends or allies (nor do they want any - they ''want'' people to oppose them too). PlayerCharacters can actually join this group if they want to; the only requirement (other than holding to its controversial philosophy of opposing everything) is actually one that makes sense: you must be True Neutral in alignment. (Being Good, Evil, Lawful, or Chaotic obviously defeats the purpose.)
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'':
** Most members of''TabletopGame/{{Ponyfinder}}'': Queen Iliana was one. On the anarchic Revolutionary League are viewed this way, at least by non-members. (And this is considered one of hand, she did unite the mainstream Factions in formerly scattered pony tribes and forge them into a mighty Empire. On the setting.)
** The setting also mentions a rather odd group like this called the Opposers. Their goal is to oppose ''every'' political, moral, ethical, and philosophical idea except their own, and they believe this will actually help people. Why? Well, they think that an idea can only succeed and its supporters can only become strong if they have to ''fight'' to support it. Inother words, opposition makes you strong. As you might expect, this group doesn't have many friends or allies (nor do hand, she destroyed the Tribe of Bones for questioning that her intentions were less than noble and who asked she prove her good intentions by being ceremonially cleansed for all the deaths she had ordered before they want any - they ''want'' people surrendered to oppose her leadership, and when the Short Leg ponies politely turned down the idea of joining her empire, she stood back and allowed them too). PlayerCharacters can actually join this group if they want to; the only requirement (other than holding to its controversial philosophy be wiped out by an army of opposing everything) is actually one that makes sense: you must be True Neutral in alignment. (Being Good, Evil, Lawful, or Chaotic obviously defeats the purpose.) gnolls.
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** The setting also mentions a rather odd group like this called the Opposers. Their goal is to oppose ''every'' political, moral, ethical, and philosophical idea except their own, and they believe this will actually help people. Why? Well, they think that an idea can only succeed and its supporters can only become strong if they have to ''fight'' to support it. In
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'': Just about all of the "Good Guy" factions are portrayed as these.
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*** Special mention goes to Inquisitor Kryptman, who destroyed a bunch of planets and all of their inhabitants in order to make sure that they wouldn't be eaten by Tyranids.
