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Come the second game we find out the Elders are dying from some incurable wasting disease and desperately hoping to use human DNA to stitch together the best of all other alien genetic material. However we see that even if their bodies die they continue to exist as psionic energy, multiple disembodied ones appear, meaning the body is just their to interact with the physical world as well as amplifying their powers. That and they have so few troops left they can barely control their own cities and have to constantly cull the population of zombies they accidentally created constantly to avoid being overrun. They don't even regularly patrol the skys anymore only sporadically deploying UFOs to hunt their enemies.
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Come the second game we find out the Elders are dying from some incurable wasting disease and desperately hoping to use human DNA to stitch together the best of all other alien genetic material. However we see that even if their bodies die they continue to exist as psionic energy, multiple disembodied ones appear, meaning the body is just their to interact with the physical world as well as amplifying their powers. That and they have so few troops left they can barely control their own cities and have to constantly cull the population of zombies they accidentally created constantly to avoid being overrun. They don't even regularly patrol the skys anymore only sporadically deploying UFOs [=UFOs=] to hunt their enemies.
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* Its also possible that after being freed from Ethereal control some of the aliens would simply willingly join up with X-com to defend against the upcoming threat
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** Given ContinuitySnarl in the new Tactical Legacy Pack DLC where your squad totes late-game Enemy Unknown equipments, including Plasma Rifle.
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Ultimately this even provides the nature of the bigger threat they're trying to prepare for sacrificing humanity in the process. Whatever it is feeds on psionic energy. Devouring the disembodied Elder wraiths, robbing the living ones of the psionic power that sustains them causing rapid desiccation, and ultimately following their psionic trail across the galaxy right to earth. Presuming psionic energy is the source of life, as implied, Humanity is in big ''big'' trouble.
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Ultimately this even provides the nature of the bigger threat they're trying to prepare for sacrificing humanity in the process. Whatever it is feeds on psionic energy. Devouring the disembodied Elder wraiths, robbing the living ones of the psionic power that sustains them causing rapid desiccation, and ultimately following their psionic trail across the galaxy right to earth. Presuming psionic energy is the source of life, as implied, Humanity is in big ''big'' trouble.trouble.
[[WMG: Gatekeepers are Ethereal who succumbed to their disease]]
Gatekeepers are Ethereals who died or nearly died to the disease that is causing their body´s to degenerate.
Think about it, Gatekeepers are the most powerfull psionic enemy [[spoiler: except the Avatars,]] like the Ethereals of Enemy Unknown. They are probably not a subject species like the other aliens. It does not make sense that the Ethereals would leave such an psionically powerfull species alive, even less to give them a powerfull robotic shell.
But it would make sense if the Gatekeepers would be dead or degenerated Ethereals. Maybe in an attempt to cure their disease multiple Ethereals got turned into these mounds of flesh. And the other Ethereals , maybe to use their leftover psionic might or maybe out of respect to their lost bretheren , formed these robotic shells for the victims of this mishap.
This would explain a lot about the Gatekeepers. Their rarity and late game appearance would come from the scarcity of these beings,due to not being able or willing to make more of them. Their psionic power would spring from the Ethereal origins of the creature. And they look like the most "sophisticated" of the alien units , because the Ethereals designed their shell to remind themselves and their subjects of the authority the sad creature inside once commanded.
Finally Gatekeepers are tied to the Gate, the most trans-dimensional object in the game and the Ethereals themselves are often theorized to be trans-dimensional
[[WMG: Gatekeepers are Ethereal who succumbed to their disease]]
Gatekeepers are Ethereals who died or nearly died to the disease that is causing their body´s to degenerate.
Think about it, Gatekeepers are the most powerfull psionic enemy [[spoiler: except the Avatars,]] like the Ethereals of Enemy Unknown. They are probably not a subject species like the other aliens. It does not make sense that the Ethereals would leave such an psionically powerfull species alive, even less to give them a powerfull robotic shell.
But it would make sense if the Gatekeepers would be dead or degenerated Ethereals. Maybe in an attempt to cure their disease multiple Ethereals got turned into these mounds of flesh. And the other Ethereals , maybe to use their leftover psionic might or maybe out of respect to their lost bretheren , formed these robotic shells for the victims of this mishap.
This would explain a lot about the Gatekeepers. Their rarity and late game appearance would come from the scarcity of these beings,due to not being able or willing to make more of them. Their psionic power would spring from the Ethereal origins of the creature. And they look like the most "sophisticated" of the alien units , because the Ethereals designed their shell to remind themselves and their subjects of the authority the sad creature inside once commanded.
Finally Gatekeepers are tied to the Gate, the most trans-dimensional object in the game and the Ethereals themselves are often theorized to be trans-dimensional
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[[spoiler: Five alien food rations says the commander was the fourth Chosen.]]]]
[[WMG: The Elders we see are the last Elders in existence.]]
Between the degenerative plague effecting their species and the constantly referenced greater threat they use to try and get XCOM to surrender it seems likely that the Elders are near extinct. That would be why in the original game they started small before bringing out the big guns and why the current Advent are restricted to the city centers.
Take a look at the progression in the first game, sectoids who are relatively disposable, infiltrator thin men, and terror bombings. The Aliens were clearly hoping to invade and then have humanity surrender in fear quickly. But then as the resistance to their attacks grow they deploy bigger, rarer, and more powerful devices. Just take a look at the Heavy Floaters and Elite Mutons, clearly they're supposed to be body guards not front line troops! The Elders growing desperate started deploying their own entourage into the field hoping to stop XCOM before things got any worse.
Come the second game we find out the Elders are dying from some incurable wasting disease and desperately hoping to use human DNA to stitch together the best of all other alien genetic material. However we see that even if their bodies die they continue to exist as psionic energy, multiple disembodied ones appear, meaning the body is just their to interact with the physical world as well as amplifying their powers. That and they have so few troops left they can barely control their own cities and have to constantly cull the population of zombies they accidentally created constantly to avoid being overrun. They don't even regularly patrol the skys anymore only sporadically deploying UFOs to hunt their enemies.
Separated it seems arbitrary or like they're simply overconfident but put together the picture becomes clear. The Elders are a dead race, the only survivors hiding out on earth from something real and incredibly deadly. Their own technology is rapidly breaking down with only the most critical projects still receiving funding or resources. The risk of losing control is so great they're intentionally handicapping all their soldiers on the genetic level to prevent uprisings that could potentially succeed. Even the elders themselves are only barely maintaining their intense mind control over their most docile soldiers with the help of advanced technology to boost their psionic prowess to compensate for how few of them are left.
Ultimately this even provides the nature of the bigger threat they're trying to prepare for sacrificing humanity in the process. Whatever it is feeds on psionic energy. Devouring the disembodied Elder wraiths, robbing the living ones of the psionic power that sustains them causing rapid desiccation, and ultimately following their psionic trail across the galaxy right to earth. Presuming psionic energy is the source of life, as implied, Humanity is in big ''big'' trouble.
[[WMG: The Elders we see are the last Elders in existence.]]
Between the degenerative plague effecting their species and the constantly referenced greater threat they use to try and get XCOM to surrender it seems likely that the Elders are near extinct. That would be why in the original game they started small before bringing out the big guns and why the current Advent are restricted to the city centers.
Take a look at the progression in the first game, sectoids who are relatively disposable, infiltrator thin men, and terror bombings. The Aliens were clearly hoping to invade and then have humanity surrender in fear quickly. But then as the resistance to their attacks grow they deploy bigger, rarer, and more powerful devices. Just take a look at the Heavy Floaters and Elite Mutons, clearly they're supposed to be body guards not front line troops! The Elders growing desperate started deploying their own entourage into the field hoping to stop XCOM before things got any worse.
Come the second game we find out the Elders are dying from some incurable wasting disease and desperately hoping to use human DNA to stitch together the best of all other alien genetic material. However we see that even if their bodies die they continue to exist as psionic energy, multiple disembodied ones appear, meaning the body is just their to interact with the physical world as well as amplifying their powers. That and they have so few troops left they can barely control their own cities and have to constantly cull the population of zombies they accidentally created constantly to avoid being overrun. They don't even regularly patrol the skys anymore only sporadically deploying UFOs to hunt their enemies.
Separated it seems arbitrary or like they're simply overconfident but put together the picture becomes clear. The Elders are a dead race, the only survivors hiding out on earth from something real and incredibly deadly. Their own technology is rapidly breaking down with only the most critical projects still receiving funding or resources. The risk of losing control is so great they're intentionally handicapping all their soldiers on the genetic level to prevent uprisings that could potentially succeed. Even the elders themselves are only barely maintaining their intense mind control over their most docile soldiers with the help of advanced technology to boost their psionic prowess to compensate for how few of them are left.
Ultimately this even provides the nature of the bigger threat they're trying to prepare for sacrificing humanity in the process. Whatever it is feeds on psionic energy. Devouring the disembodied Elder wraiths, robbing the living ones of the psionic power that sustains them causing rapid desiccation, and ultimately following their psionic trail across the galaxy right to earth. Presuming psionic energy is the source of life, as implied, Humanity is in big ''big'' trouble.
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* Confirmed with the War of the Chosen expansion because one ability the Chosen have has them capture a soldier for interrogation. When this happens, a covert action shows up that unlocks a mission to rescue the captured soldier.
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*Confirmed by the Shen's Last Gift DLC mission. Julian states that he helped the aliens with,"perfecting their designs," and mentions that Dr. Shen's work was helpful.
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[[There was a Fourth Chosen, the original Chosen.]]
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Then it happens again, even though they won they still haven't really won because someone somewhere on this tiny blue speck is still willing to fight. Not only that but in a matter of under two decades they not only free the one person who seems to always beat the Ethereals in the end but they've not go a whole lot more of the weapons and technology that the Ethereals fraught so hard to keep from them. Now they've got the resistance on one side doing that damnable thing humans always do, adapt to the situation, and something far worse at their backs out searching for them. An entire dimension of extremely pissed off and highly augmented humans whos capabilities put the Ethereals themselves to shame. The only consolation is that if they fail in creating the new avatar species to carry them through this conflict these two unstoppable human jugernaughts will probably kill each other when the Ethereals are gone.
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Then it happens again, even though they won they still haven't really won because someone somewhere on this tiny blue speck is still willing to fight. Not only that but in a matter of under two decades they not only free the one person who seems to always beat the Ethereals in the end but they've not go a whole lot more of the weapons and technology that the Ethereals fraught so hard to keep from them. Now they've got the resistance on one side doing that damnable thing humans always do, adapt to the situation, and something far worse at their backs out searching for them. An entire dimension of extremely pissed off and highly augmented humans whos capabilities put the Ethereals themselves to shame. The only consolation is that if they fail in creating the new avatar species to carry them through this conflict these two unstoppable human jugernaughts will probably kill each other when the Ethereals are gone.gone.
[[There was a Fourth Chosen, the original Chosen.]]
The three chosen we see all have well defined personality flaws that make them easily manipulated, greed and obsession, pride and zealotry, and psychotic delight. Given the chosen seem to have once been human or at least are partially composed of humans it seems likely these negative traits were intentionally fueled by the elders to keep them in line. However based on the extreme reaction they show toward defiance of any kind by the chosen it seems likely these three were not the original.
This troper suspects that the original chosen was a human exposed to the Golop device and allowed to develop to its fullest potential including all three traits the chosen display in excess stealth, martial prowess, and psionic potential. It was powerful beyond its peers in the invasion force, too powerful. The Elders destroyed it because while it did have exactly the traits they wanted it could not be controlled and bent to there will. The three chosen were inferior copies meant to cover that weakness through competition and psychological faults.
[[spoiler: Five alien food rations says the commander was the fourth Chosen.]]
[[There was a Fourth Chosen, the original Chosen.]]
The three chosen we see all have well defined personality flaws that make them easily manipulated, greed and obsession, pride and zealotry, and psychotic delight. Given the chosen seem to have once been human or at least are partially composed of humans it seems likely these negative traits were intentionally fueled by the elders to keep them in line. However based on the extreme reaction they show toward defiance of any kind by the chosen it seems likely these three were not the original.
This troper suspects that the original chosen was a human exposed to the Golop device and allowed to develop to its fullest potential including all three traits the chosen display in excess stealth, martial prowess, and psionic potential. It was powerful beyond its peers in the invasion force, too powerful. The Elders destroyed it because while it did have exactly the traits they wanted it could not be controlled and bent to there will. The three chosen were inferior copies meant to cover that weakness through competition and psychological faults.
[[spoiler: Five alien food rations says the commander was the fourth Chosen.]]
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[[WMG: The Ethereals are not a species. They are all one specific being with there numbers coming from across dimensions, and they're running from Humanity.]]
The Elders or Ethereals are a series of ancient beings seemingly of identical body type and outfit, with one notable exception, who speak as a united group. This troper believes that the seeming universality of there abilities and decrepit build would not be conducive to a species proper, even if humans went the accention route it is virtually certain that at least a few million would choose to stay behind and continue having children naturally. Rather this troper suspects that the Ethereals are all variations of same being coming from various different dimensions with the most powerful variation among them becoming leader.
Further more they are waging war across the different dimensions and have been extremely successful. With access to multiple dimensions they simply picking a fight with each species to learn its weaknesses then exploit them in the next dimension to conquer them and turn the new conquest on the originals. No species ever survived an onslaught like this because the enemy would always know exactly what weakness they had somehow and exploit it. That is until humanity got into the mix with our perfect blend of brain, brawn, and psionic potential.
The Ethereals saw in us something far greater then anyone before had presented [[spoiler: the chance at extending their dwindling lives. The Ethereals for all of their power and technology had reached the absolute limit of what they could do to preserve their bodies. More and more of them failed leaving the inhabitants as powerless wraiths kept existent by the psionic power they wielded but also trapped by it, left unable to rule from beyond the mortal coil. Humanity had just the right mix to be reengineered into the perfect shells for them to inhabit with all the strengths they currently had plus the might of the Ethereals.]]
The problems began almost immediately as we proved far, far more resistant and flexible then any other species had. To the point of actively fighting back against the invasion and winning but that was all part of the plan. Once it was clear they had lost the Ethereals jumped ship to a new dimension and tried again upping their game with the newly gained knowledge of the humans. It didn't work, for the first time in recorded history the humans didn't fall to the same faults as their counterparts in the previous dimension. Sure it worked for a time but as soon as they had self-analyzed and discovered the fault they would correct it and recover to win again.
Taking it as a fluke at first the Ethereals repeated the process again and again each time getting more creative with the attack itself but always met with failure. Too much variation, too much adaptability was slowly draining what they had left in terms of both vitality and resources. The defeats piled up as they scrambled for a solution until the an Ethereal itself fell into the hands of the enemy and suddenly the fight got much more serious. They hadn't pieced it together yet but it was now virtually certain that the particular world which had seized one of their own would eventually figure out how to cross dimensions and find the rest. It also happened to be one of the worlds they had brutalized most harshly giving the inhabitants ample motive for revenge.
The XCOM 2 Ethereals used the knowledge they had on XCOM itself to hunt down a world where the base shared coordinates with another they had already assaulted and launched an all out assault ending the war before it began in earnest. They captured the commander, the man who somehow had always managed to out maneuver them, and tried to figure out just what was so special about him. Nothing, that was the answer. By all rights he was just another human of the exact type they'd slaughtered millions of but somehow this one man just kept on beating them so instead of of trying in vain to discover some secret about him they put him to use analyzing human tactics from combat across dimensions while trying desperately to finish the project they'd started long ago while there were still Ethereals to saves.
Then it happens again, even though they won they still haven't really won because someone somewhere on this tiny blue speck is still willing to fight. Not only that but in a matter of under two decades they not only free the one person who seems to always beat the Ethereals in the end but they've not go a whole lot more of the weapons and technology that the Ethereals fraught so hard to keep from them. Now they've got the resistance on one side doing that damnable thing humans always do, adapt to the situation, and something far worse at their backs out searching for them. An entire dimension of extremely pissed off and highly augmented humans whos capabilities put the Ethereals themselves to shame. The only consolation is that if they fail in creating the new avatar species to carry them through this conflict these two unstoppable human jugernaughts will probably kill each other when the Ethereals are gone.
[[WMG: The Ethereals are not a species. They are all one specific being with there numbers coming from across dimensions, and they're running from Humanity.]]
The Elders or Ethereals are a series of ancient beings seemingly of identical body type and outfit, with one notable exception, who speak as a united group. This troper believes that the seeming universality of there abilities and decrepit build would not be conducive to a species proper, even if humans went the accention route it is virtually certain that at least a few million would choose to stay behind and continue having children naturally. Rather this troper suspects that the Ethereals are all variations of same being coming from various different dimensions with the most powerful variation among them becoming leader.
Further more they are waging war across the different dimensions and have been extremely successful. With access to multiple dimensions they simply picking a fight with each species to learn its weaknesses then exploit them in the next dimension to conquer them and turn the new conquest on the originals. No species ever survived an onslaught like this because the enemy would always know exactly what weakness they had somehow and exploit it. That is until humanity got into the mix with our perfect blend of brain, brawn, and psionic potential.
The Ethereals saw in us something far greater then anyone before had presented [[spoiler: the chance at extending their dwindling lives. The Ethereals for all of their power and technology had reached the absolute limit of what they could do to preserve their bodies. More and more of them failed leaving the inhabitants as powerless wraiths kept existent by the psionic power they wielded but also trapped by it, left unable to rule from beyond the mortal coil. Humanity had just the right mix to be reengineered into the perfect shells for them to inhabit with all the strengths they currently had plus the might of the Ethereals.]]
The problems began almost immediately as we proved far, far more resistant and flexible then any other species had. To the point of actively fighting back against the invasion and winning but that was all part of the plan. Once it was clear they had lost the Ethereals jumped ship to a new dimension and tried again upping their game with the newly gained knowledge of the humans. It didn't work, for the first time in recorded history the humans didn't fall to the same faults as their counterparts in the previous dimension. Sure it worked for a time but as soon as they had self-analyzed and discovered the fault they would correct it and recover to win again.
Taking it as a fluke at first the Ethereals repeated the process again and again each time getting more creative with the attack itself but always met with failure. Too much variation, too much adaptability was slowly draining what they had left in terms of both vitality and resources. The defeats piled up as they scrambled for a solution until the an Ethereal itself fell into the hands of the enemy and suddenly the fight got much more serious. They hadn't pieced it together yet but it was now virtually certain that the particular world which had seized one of their own would eventually figure out how to cross dimensions and find the rest. It also happened to be one of the worlds they had brutalized most harshly giving the inhabitants ample motive for revenge.
The XCOM 2 Ethereals used the knowledge they had on XCOM itself to hunt down a world where the base shared coordinates with another they had already assaulted and launched an all out assault ending the war before it began in earnest. They captured the commander, the man who somehow had always managed to out maneuver them, and tried to figure out just what was so special about him. Nothing, that was the answer. By all rights he was just another human of the exact type they'd slaughtered millions of but somehow this one man just kept on beating them so instead of of trying in vain to discover some secret about him they put him to use analyzing human tactics from combat across dimensions while trying desperately to finish the project they'd started long ago while there were still Ethereals to saves.
Then it happens again, even though they won they still haven't really won because someone somewhere on this tiny blue speck is still willing to fight. Not only that but in a matter of under two decades they not only free the one person who seems to always beat the Ethereals in the end but they've not go a whole lot more of the weapons and technology that the Ethereals fraught so hard to keep from them. Now they've got the resistance on one side doing that damnable thing humans always do, adapt to the situation, and something far worse at their backs out searching for them. An entire dimension of extremely pissed off and highly augmented humans whos capabilities put the Ethereals themselves to shame. The only consolation is that if they fail in creating the new avatar species to carry them through this conflict these two unstoppable human jugernaughts will probably kill each other when the Ethereals are gone.
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If such a useful resource existed, the desperate XCOM forces in the sequel would certainly want to get their hands on it, or we'd see it mentioned by Tygan somewhere - being an ADVENT defector and all. Instead, it's never mentioned at all. Most likely, Meld was a fictional resource that existed only [[spoiler: within the tactical simulations that the Commander was running for ADVENT]], to (1) spur him/her on to more aggressive tactics in keeping with the aliens' [[WeHaveReserves willingness to sacrifice their own]], (2) justify the existence of MEC Troopers and gene mods, which would - in the real XCOM - have been considered outrageously unethical, and (3) control the extent to which the Commander was deploying those troops, so as to emulate the relative scarcity of such units in the ADVENT arsenal.
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If such a useful resource existed, the desperate XCOM forces in the sequel would certainly want to get their hands on it, or we'd see it mentioned by Tygan somewhere - being an ADVENT defector and all. Instead, it's never mentioned at all.
Most likely, Meld was a fictional resource that existed only [[spoiler: within the tactical simulations that the Commander was running for ADVENT]],to (1) to:
* spur him/her on to more aggressive tactics in keeping with the aliens' [[WeHaveReserves willingness to sacrifice theirown]], (2) own]],
* justify the existence of MEC Troopers and gene mods, which would - in the real XCOM - have been considered outrageously unethical,and (3) and
* control the extent to which the Commander was deploying those troops, so as to emulate the relative scarcity of such units in the ADVENT arsenal.
Most likely, Meld was a fictional resource that existed only [[spoiler: within the tactical simulations that the Commander was running for ADVENT]],
* spur him/her on to more aggressive tactics in keeping with the aliens' [[WeHaveReserves willingness to sacrifice their
* justify the existence of MEC Troopers and gene mods, which would - in the real XCOM - have been considered outrageously unethical,
* control the extent to which the Commander was deploying those troops, so as to emulate the relative scarcity of such units in the ADVENT arsenal.
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[[WMG: Meld never really existed in the XCOM universe]]
If such a useful resource existed, the desperate XCOM forces in the sequel would certainly want to get their hands on it, or we'd see it mentioned by Tygan somewhere - being an ADVENT defector and all. Instead, it's never mentioned at all. Most likely, Meld was a fictional resource that existed only [[spoiler: within the tactical simulations that the Commander was running for ADVENT]], to (1) spur him/her on to more aggressive tactics in keeping with the aliens' [[WeHaveReserves willingness to sacrifice their own]], (2) justify the existence of MEC Troopers and gene mods, which would - in the real XCOM - have been considered outrageously unethical, and (3) control the extent to which the Commander was deploying those troops, so as to emulate the relative scarcity of such units in the ADVENT arsenal.
[[WMG: Meld never really existed in the XCOM universe]]
If such a useful resource existed, the desperate XCOM forces in the sequel would certainly want to get their hands on it, or we'd see it mentioned by Tygan somewhere - being an ADVENT defector and all. Instead, it's never mentioned at all. Most likely, Meld was a fictional resource that existed only [[spoiler: within the tactical simulations that the Commander was running for ADVENT]], to (1) spur him/her on to more aggressive tactics in keeping with the aliens' [[WeHaveReserves willingness to sacrifice their own]], (2) justify the existence of MEC Troopers and gene mods, which would - in the real XCOM - have been considered outrageously unethical, and (3) control the extent to which the Commander was deploying those troops, so as to emulate the relative scarcity of such units in the ADVENT arsenal.
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** Confirmed. XCOM can destroy vital facilities, break scientists out of custody, assassinate or abduct VIPs, [=VIPs=], or arrive for cleanup after guerilla guerrilla operations like intercepted convoys and trains.
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** Partially confirmed with the War of the Chosen expansion because the Skirmishers faction is composed of rogue ADVENT soldiers.
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* [[SarcasmMode Yes, because it's not like it's human nature to fall back into existing groups in response to a catastrophe or anything. Or that the same program to create that soldier involves this thing called "eating people".]] Something tells me XCOM ''is'' the same leftover government-most people are going to listen to the guys who stopped a species-wide genocide, and the armed people are also the same ones who were ''helping'' XCOM. That kind of alliance is the sort of thing that, despite the best wishes of pessimists attempting to prove they are omniscient in their [[HopeIsScary laziness]], tends to last a couple generations. In summation, unlikely, and the Advent newscaster above me can go kiss a Chryssalid.
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They will either be the name of the Reapers, or the Skirmishers, faction. My personal belief is the Skirmishers, since Exalt wanted to use alien technology and biology to improve themselves. This is why Exalt is against you in the original X Com Enemy Within. What actually happened is that people that were "improved" by the aliens realized that this was for the downfall of humanity, and instead rebelled against the Elders.
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They will either be the name of the Reapers, or the Skirmishers, faction. My personal belief is the Skirmishers, since Exalt wanted to use alien technology and biology to improve themselves. This is why Exalt is against you in the original X Com Enemy Within. What actually happened is that people that were "improved" by the aliens realized that this was for the downfall of humanity, and instead rebelled against the Elders.Elders.
[[WMG: The Chosen are the Furies]]
The Furies all have static classes and genders which the Chosen mirror. Additionally they were all chosen by the Ethereals for their psionic potential.
* Matthew "Alecto" Hawkins Sniper / The Hunter Male
* Fatima "Tisiphone" Tariq Assault / The Assassin Female
* Said "Megaera" Tariq Support / The Warlock Male
They were the first pass at making a Human/Ethereal hybrid and became The Chosen after years of experimentation and conditioning.
Durand is MIA, possibly the leader of the Templars or possibly killed during her rescue mission.
[[WMG: The Chosen are the Furies]]
The Furies all have static classes and genders which the Chosen mirror. Additionally they were all chosen by the Ethereals for their psionic potential.
* Matthew "Alecto" Hawkins Sniper / The Hunter Male
* Fatima "Tisiphone" Tariq Assault / The Assassin Female
* Said "Megaera" Tariq Support / The Warlock Male
They were the first pass at making a Human/Ethereal hybrid and became The Chosen after years of experimentation and conditioning.
Durand is MIA, possibly the leader of the Templars or possibly killed during her rescue mission.
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***Nope, Confirmed, Soldiers left onfield, as long as they weren't bleeding are capable of showing up to be rescued. it's just RNG as to how long before it happens. This Troper had a Trooper show up on a VIP rescue three months after he'd went MIA.
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[[WMG: EXALT was the Commander's subconscious attempts to rebel against the Ethereals.]] It's said in-game that the later events of X-Com was the Commander being used as awet-ware computer, and that X-Com went down before EXALT showed up. It would integrate Enemy Within. For the first however many times, the Commander was 'running' Enemy Unknown, and as they tried to rebel they moved on to Enemy Within.
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[[WMG: EXALT was the Commander's subconscious attempts to rebel against the Ethereals.]] It's said in-game that the later events of X-Com was the Commander being used as awet-ware computer, and that X-Com went down before EXALT showed up. It would integrate Enemy Within. For the first however many times, the Commander was 'running' Enemy Unknown, and as they tried to rebel they moved on to Enemy Within.Within.
[[WMG: EXALT is one of the Factions that you can recruit in War of the Chosen]]
They will either be the name of the Reapers, or the Skirmishers, faction. My personal belief is the Skirmishers, since Exalt wanted to use alien technology and biology to improve themselves. This is why Exalt is against you in the original X Com Enemy Within. What actually happened is that people that were "improved" by the aliens realized that this was for the downfall of humanity, and instead rebelled against the Elders.
[[WMG: EXALT is one of the Factions that you can recruit in War of the Chosen]]
They will either be the name of the Reapers, or the Skirmishers, faction. My personal belief is the Skirmishers, since Exalt wanted to use alien technology and biology to improve themselves. This is why Exalt is against you in the original X Com Enemy Within. What actually happened is that people that were "improved" by the aliens realized that this was for the downfall of humanity, and instead rebelled against the Elders.
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[[WMG: The Commander was the Volunteer in ''Enemy Unknown''.]]
Pretty straightforward. The Volunteer had incredible power. We know that the Commander has considerable psychic power. This game just finished the invasion before the Commander had a chance to awaken it.
[[WMG: The Commander was the Volunteer in ''Enemy Unknown''.]]
Pretty straightforward. The Volunteer had incredible power. We know that the Commander has considerable psychic power. This game just finished the invasion before the Commander had a chance to awaken it.
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* Alternately, [[spoiler: the Angelis Ethereal was simply replicating the Speaker's voice with their psionic communication since the turn before the Speaker starts goading XCOM, the Ethereal ends their speech by commenting to herself about how the Commander was unwilling to listen to her words or voice, ending it in a way as if musing that [[ManipulativeBastard a voice that's usually viewed with trust and respect by humanity]] would allow her to convey her message. Unfortunately, she didn't consider that the voice she picked wasn't so popular with humanity any more and was never trusted by XCOM to begin with.]]
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A combination of theories posited so far - Somewhere in time and space, an unknown "evil" race dominates not only their universe, but also spill out into alternative dimensions, where they encounter pre-XCOM1 Ethereals. Some of the members of this "evil" race try to encourage the Ethereals [[spoiler: to ascend]] by sharing their superior technology with them, while others bear a grudge against the Ethereals (for reasons that will be made clear shortly) and try to eliminate the Ethereals [[spoiler: with a degenerative virus]] instead. The Ethereals' [[spoiler: degenerating bodies makes them desperate and they ultimately]] search for dimensions not dominated by the "evil" race. In at least two of these alternative dimensions, they find the freedom [[spoiler: to experiment on lesser races in an effort to save themselves and ultimately ascend]]. However, in every single one of these dimensions, humans adapt and adopt the Ethereal's borrowed technology and use it to defeat the Ethereals. [[spoiler: What's more, the humans evolve beyond the capabilities and technology possessed by the Ethereals, and eventually conquer them and go on to dominate the universe. The humans ultimately spill out into alternative dimensions, where they find Ethereals that have never encountered humans before and have no degenerative virus. The humans are the "evil" race that create their own worst enemy. This would actually go some way towards explaining the Ethereals' words at the end of XCOM2, where they claim that the humans are the original aggressors]]
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A combination of theories posited so far - Somewhere in time and space, an unknown "evil" race dominates not only their universe, but also spill out into alternative dimensions, where they encounter pre-XCOM1 Ethereals. Some of the members of this "evil" race try to encourage the Ethereals [[spoiler: to ascend]] by sharing their superior technology with them, while others bear a grudge against the Ethereals (for reasons that will be made clear shortly) and try to eliminate the Ethereals [[spoiler: with a degenerative virus]] instead. The Ethereals' [[spoiler: degenerating bodies makes them desperate and they ultimately]] search for dimensions not dominated by the "evil" race. In at least two of these alternative dimensions, they find the freedom [[spoiler: to experiment on lesser races in an effort to save themselves and ultimately ascend]]. However, in every single one of these dimensions, humans adapt and adopt the Ethereal's borrowed technology and use it to defeat the Ethereals. [[spoiler: What's more, the humans evolve beyond the capabilities and technology possessed by the Ethereals, and eventually conquer them and go on to dominate the universe. The humans ultimately spill out into alternative dimensions, where they find Ethereals that have never encountered humans before and have no degenerative virus. The humans are the "evil" race that create their own worst enemy. This would actually go some way towards explaining the Ethereals' words at the end of XCOM2, XCOM 2, where they claim that the humans are the original aggressors]]
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[[spoiler: The humans-into-orange-vial process seen in XCOM 2's blacksite may have already been undertaken on the Outsiders seen in the The Bureau by the time XCOM1 began.]] The Outsider Shard may be a technologically re-worked version of the orange vial seen in XCOM2.
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[[spoiler: The humans-into-orange-vial process seen in XCOM 2's blacksite may have already been undertaken on the Outsiders seen in the The Bureau by the time XCOM1 began.]] The Outsider Shard may be a technologically re-worked version of the orange vial seen in XCOM2.
XCOM 2.
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[[WMG:EXALT pops up after XCOM2.]]
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[[WMG:EXALT pops up after XCOM2.XCOM 2.]]
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[[WMG: XCOM will WORK FOR EXALT after XCOM2.]]
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[[WMG: XCOM will WORK FOR EXALT after XCOM2.XCOM 2.]]
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Hypothetical situation: XCOM and the resistance is quashed, the Avatar Project is completed, said avatars are now "rolled out" [[spoiler: to the five or so ethereals that are left, who exert themselves as the dominant powers.]] As their rule [[spoiler: and survival]] is all but assured, I see no reason why the ethereals and ADVENT wouldn't just leave the contented, docile population of the city centers alone. ADVENT clearly has enough troops to keep the peace within the centers, the media is firmly under their control, hardly anything happens without their knowing within those centers, and the average person is genuinely happy and healthy. There's little reason to worry about what will happen if the grip on the reins is loosened a bit. While it may not be a particularly ideal future for humankind, it is a future, and I don't think it's nearly as dark or apocalyptic as the bad ending of [=UFO=] Defense
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Hypothetical situation: XCOM and the resistance is quashed, the Avatar Project is completed, said avatars are now "rolled out" [[spoiler: to the five or so ethereals that are left, who exert themselves as the dominant powers.]] As their rule [[spoiler: and survival]] is all but assured, I see no reason why the ethereals and ADVENT wouldn't just leave the contented, docile population of the city centers alone. ADVENT clearly has enough troops to keep the peace within the centers, the media is firmly under their control, hardly anything happens without their knowing within those centers, and the average person is genuinely happy and healthy. There's little reason to worry about what will happen if the grip on the reins is loosened a bit. While it may not be a particularly ideal future for humankind, it is a future, and I don't think it's nearly as dark or apocalyptic as the bad ending of [=UFO=] DefenseDefense
[[WMG: EXALT was the Commander's subconscious attempts to rebel against the Ethereals.]] It's said in-game that the later events of X-Com was the Commander being used as awet-ware computer, and that X-Com went down before EXALT showed up. It would integrate Enemy Within. For the first however many times, the Commander was 'running' Enemy Unknown, and as they tried to rebel they moved on to Enemy Within.
[[WMG: EXALT was the Commander's subconscious attempts to rebel against the Ethereals.]] It's said in-game that the later events of X-Com was the Commander being used as awet-ware computer, and that X-Com went down before EXALT showed up. It would integrate Enemy Within. For the first however many times, the Commander was 'running' Enemy Unknown, and as they tried to rebel they moved on to Enemy Within.
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A young, pretty, very powerful psyker with a unique superpower that every side wants working for them and does fine in combat without any proper training? Sounds rather like a fanfic character, or at least as close to one as you'll get from a CrapsackWorld like the one in the games. That's because she was - There was no real Annette Durand. Instead, the character Annette was the Angelis Ethereal making an AuthorAvatar in the Commander's tactical simulations. Perhaps she was simply creating the character to see how the Commander handled powerful psi-operatives, thus creating tactics the Elders themselves could use, or perhaps she was just being a nerd because she's fond of the Commander (traces of which sneak through in her interaction with him). Either way, there was no real Annette Durand, and that's why she doesn't appear in the sequel.
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A young, pretty, very powerful psyker with a unique superpower that every side wants working for them and does fine in combat without any proper training? Sounds rather like a fanfic character, or at least as close to one as you'll get from a CrapsackWorld like the one in the games. That's because she was - There was no real Annette Durand. Instead, the character Annette was the Angelis Ethereal making an AuthorAvatar in the Commander's tactical simulations. Perhaps she was simply creating the character to see how the Commander handled powerful psi-operatives, thus creating tactics the Elders themselves could use, or perhaps she was just being a nerd because she's fond of the Commander (traces of which sneak through in her interaction with him). Either way, there was no real Annette Durand, and that's why she doesn't appear in the sequel.sequel.
[[WMG: Completion of the Avatar Project WOULD NOT doom humanity.]]
The ethereals are certainly conniving, ruthless bastards. That much is pure to be seen from the destruction/enslavement of several other failed host species. However, humans were given rather preferential treatment because of their genetic predisposition for handling psionic energy. [[spoiler: That same energy that has caused the near-extinction and wasting degeneration of the ethereals, which is what the avatar project had hoped to combat.]] Unfettered though they are, I don't think the ethereals would be as ungrateful for having found what they were looking for in humanity as to purge them from existence.
Hypothetical situation: XCOM and the resistance is quashed, the Avatar Project is completed, said avatars are now "rolled out" [[spoiler: to the five or so ethereals that are left, who exert themselves as the dominant powers.]] As their rule [[spoiler: and survival]] is all but assured, I see no reason why the ethereals and ADVENT wouldn't just leave the contented, docile population of the city centers alone. ADVENT clearly has enough troops to keep the peace within the centers, the media is firmly under their control, hardly anything happens without their knowing within those centers, and the average person is genuinely happy and healthy. There's little reason to worry about what will happen if the grip on the reins is loosened a bit. While it may not be a particularly ideal future for humankind, it is a future, and I don't think it's nearly as dark or apocalyptic as the bad ending of [=UFO=] Defense
[[WMG: Completion of the Avatar Project WOULD NOT doom humanity.]]
The ethereals are certainly conniving, ruthless bastards. That much is pure to be seen from the destruction/enslavement of several other failed host species. However, humans were given rather preferential treatment because of their genetic predisposition for handling psionic energy. [[spoiler: That same energy that has caused the near-extinction and wasting degeneration of the ethereals, which is what the avatar project had hoped to combat.]] Unfettered though they are, I don't think the ethereals would be as ungrateful for having found what they were looking for in humanity as to purge them from existence.
Hypothetical situation: XCOM and the resistance is quashed, the Avatar Project is completed, said avatars are now "rolled out" [[spoiler: to the five or so ethereals that are left, who exert themselves as the dominant powers.]] As their rule [[spoiler: and survival]] is all but assured, I see no reason why the ethereals and ADVENT wouldn't just leave the contented, docile population of the city centers alone. ADVENT clearly has enough troops to keep the peace within the centers, the media is firmly under their control, hardly anything happens without their knowing within those centers, and the average person is genuinely happy and healthy. There's little reason to worry about what will happen if the grip on the reins is loosened a bit. While it may not be a particularly ideal future for humankind, it is a future, and I don't think it's nearly as dark or apocalyptic as the bad ending of [=UFO=] Defense
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** Confirmed in the Avenger's logs: XCom base defense happened only a few weeks into the invasion and involved large mind controlling base personnel. The base was lost and Commander was captured, however Shen, Central and Dr. Vahlen managed to evacuate.
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** Confirmed in the Avenger's logs: XCom XCOM base defense happened only a few weeks into the invasion and involved large mind controlling base personnel. The base was lost and Commander was captured, however Shen, Central and Dr. Vahlen managed to evacuate.
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** Avenger logs state that XCom base was destroyed "a few weeks" into the conflicts, while the complete victory over humanity was achieved in two months.
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** Avenger logs state that XCom XCOM base was destroyed "a few weeks" into the conflicts, while the complete victory over humanity was achieved in two months.
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Okay cut the crap, we all know that HumansAreBastards and WeAreStrugglingTogether. What do you THINK will happen the exact moment that the entire planet is completely deprived of its dominant government?! With some people staying in the hyper advanced cities and most flocking into the technology-deprived wilderness, the remnants of former extremist nations can now use those shiny new plasma terrorist weapons that Advent was constantly wiping them out for brandishing, AND the fact that you just destroyed Advent's greatest super-soldier project, the one that they probably broadcast to the entire world (out of spite) as the Milky Way Galaxy's last line of defense against a psionic eldritch planet-sized all-devourer that is going to eat the entire galaxy in less than five centuries, you can expect that the world isn't going to hold on to OneWorldOrder for a second long. A lot of people are going to be VERY angry at XCOM, some are going to try and fill the power vacuum (possibly Exalt), and a few of your own soldiers are going to defect out of loyalty to their original countries, horror at all the innocents you forced them to grenade, or disgust at how you have completely fucked up the world.
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Okay cut the crap, we all know that HumansAreBastards and WeAreStrugglingTogether. What do you THINK will happen the exact moment that the entire planet is completely deprived of its dominant government?! With some people staying in the hyper advanced cities and most flocking into the technology-deprived wilderness, the remnants of former extremist nations can now use those shiny new plasma terrorist weapons that Advent was constantly wiping them out for brandishing, AND the fact that you just destroyed Advent's greatest super-soldier project, the one that they probably broadcast to the entire world (out of spite) as the Milky Way Galaxy's last line of defense against a psionic eldritch planet-sized all-devourer that is going to eat the entire galaxy in less than five centuries, you can expect that the world isn't going to hold on to OneWorldOrder for a second long. A lot of people are going to be VERY angry at XCOM, some are going to try and fill the power vacuum (possibly Exalt), and a few of your own soldiers are going to defect out of loyalty to their original countries, horror at all the innocents you forced them to grenade, or disgust at how you have completely fucked up the world.world.
[[WMG: Annette Durand never existed.]]
A young, pretty, very powerful psyker with a unique superpower that every side wants working for them and does fine in combat without any proper training? Sounds rather like a fanfic character, or at least as close to one as you'll get from a CrapsackWorld like the one in the games. That's because she was - There was no real Annette Durand. Instead, the character Annette was the Angelis Ethereal making an AuthorAvatar in the Commander's tactical simulations. Perhaps she was simply creating the character to see how the Commander handled powerful psi-operatives, thus creating tactics the Elders themselves could use, or perhaps she was just being a nerd because she's fond of the Commander (traces of which sneak through in her interaction with him). Either way, there was no real Annette Durand, and that's why she doesn't appear in the sequel.
[[WMG: Annette Durand never existed.]]
A young, pretty, very powerful psyker with a unique superpower that every side wants working for them and does fine in combat without any proper training? Sounds rather like a fanfic character, or at least as close to one as you'll get from a CrapsackWorld like the one in the games. That's because she was - There was no real Annette Durand. Instead, the character Annette was the Angelis Ethereal making an AuthorAvatar in the Commander's tactical simulations. Perhaps she was simply creating the character to see how the Commander handled powerful psi-operatives, thus creating tactics the Elders themselves could use, or perhaps she was just being a nerd because she's fond of the Commander (traces of which sneak through in her interaction with him). Either way, there was no real Annette Durand, and that's why she doesn't appear in the sequel.
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