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** Maybe ''some'' child (children?) of Nanny's might be Verence I's offspring, but it wouldn't be Jason. She outright admits in ''Nanny Ogg's Cookbook'' that Jason was the product of a tryst with her first husband; indeed, he's ''why'' his father ended up as her first husband.
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* It would explain why her enrollment at UU was left unmentioned for dozens of novels: so far as the University knew, she left school for a holiday and didn't come back or respond to any letters, so was written off as a drop-out. Her realization that she'd unwittingly been AWOL from classes for 15 years is part of why she became interested in time travel.
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[[WMG: Eskarina Smith was visiting her family in Lancre during the time-skip and got caught up in it.]]
* It would explain why her enrollment at UU was left unmentioned for dozens of novels: so far as the University knew, she left school for a holiday and didn't come back or respond to any letters, so was written off as a drop-out. Her realization that she'd unwittingly been AWOL from classes for 15 years is part of why she became interested in time travel.
* It would explain why her enrollment at UU was left unmentioned for dozens of novels: so far as the University knew, she left school for a holiday and didn't come back or respond to any letters, so was written off as a drop-out. Her realization that she'd unwittingly been AWOL from classes for 15 years is part of why she became interested in time travel.
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** Probably inadvertent, but technically the novel never says that The Dysk is a new kind of building for Ankh-Morpork, but only that it's new for ''Morpork''. Which, early in the series, was clearly distinguished as the lower-class part of the twin cities. The Opera House is ritzy and presumably situated in upper-class Ankh.
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As a dwarf from the backwater Ramtops, Hwel simply ''doesn't know'' that elaborate theaters are already a thing in the far-off human city's upper-class area. Dwarf opera, as seen in ''Literature/TheFifthElephant'', is pretty basic in its stagecraft, with its performers just standing there and taking turns singing and gesturing to one another. Hwel only ''thinks'' he's had a revolutionary idea, to construct a more sophisticated stage set and props, and nobody else - not his fellows in the troupe, not the builders he hires, not the audience - have the heart to tell him that it's all been done before.
As a dwarf from the backwater Ramtops, Hwel simply ''doesn't know'' that elaborate theaters are already a thing in the far-off human city's upper-class area. Dwarf opera, as seen in ''Literature/TheFifthElephant'', is pretty basic in its stagecraft, with its performers just standing there and taking turns singing and gesturing to one another. Hwel only ''thinks'' he's had a revolutionary idea, to construct a more sophisticated stage set and props, and nobody else - not his fellows in the troupe, not the builders he hires, not the audience - have the heart to tell him that it's all been done before.
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* Jason Ogg is the son of Verence, hence heir to the throne of Lancre, being the product of a time when young Gytha was more welcoming to Verence's [[UnusualEuphemism Droigt de Seigneur]].
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* Jason Ogg is the son of Verence, hence heir to the throne of Lancre, being the product of a time when young Gytha was more welcoming to Verence's [[UnusualEuphemism Droigt de Seigneur]]. For even more amusement, much of the younger population of Lancre Town are his offspring, the Queen being virtually the only woman in the village he didn't impregnate.
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* Jason Ogg is the son of Verence, hence heir to the throne of Lancre, being the product of a time when young Gytha was more welcoming to Verence's [[UnusualEuphemism Droigt de Seigneur]].
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** This is a slight misreading. [[spoiler: Verence II]] is NOT the Queen's son, [[spoiler: Tomjon]] is - but they have the same father. This is revealed at the end, with the public implication that this father is [[spoiler: King Verence I. In fact, however, the father of both is the former Fool. Meaning that Tomjon is the Queen's bastard, and Verence II is a legitimate commoner, neither being related to Verence I.]]
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*** [[spoiler:Also cats.]]
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...given [[{{Shakespeare}} who he's based on]]. and [[OneNameOnly assuming he has one]], has gotta be [[LukeNounverber Spearshaker]].
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...given [[{{Shakespeare}} [[Creator/WilliamShakespeare who he's based on]]. and [[OneNameOnly assuming he has one]], has gotta be [[LukeNounverber Spearshaker]].
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As pointed out in the main section, the Discworld timeline is a bit dodgy. To answer the question whether the History Monks had to fix up these events in any capacity, perhaps they did notice, but thought that everything has turned out as it ought to be (for a given value of 'ought to'). That gives them a spare fifteen years that nobody was using, which might be useful somewhere (or somewhen) else. Besides, the Monks know an immovable object when they see one, and wouldn't be game to confront Granny directly.
As pointed out in the main section, the Discworld timeline is a bit dodgy. To answer the question whether the History Monks had to fix up these events in any capacity, perhaps they did notice, but thought that everything has turned out as it ought to be (for a given value of 'ought to'). That gives them a spare fifteen years that nobody was using, which might be useful somewhere (or somewhen) else. Besides, the Monks know an immovable object when they see one, and wouldn't be game to confront Granny directly.
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* For a dwarf, ''Make''speare seems more appropriate.
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** [[spoiler:It's stated that Verence II and Tomjon were the sons of the former Fool, who was a very good climber and "[[IfYouKnowWhatIMean very popular at court]]". Also if you notice, neither man was able to see the ghost of Verence I, which could only be seen by wizards, witches, and relatives.]]
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** [[spoiler:It's stated that Verence II and Tomjon were the sons of the former Fool, who was a very good climber and "[[IfYouKnowWhatIMean very "very popular at court]]".court". Also if you notice, neither man was able to see the ghost of Verence I, which could only be seen by wizards, witches, and relatives.]]
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...given [[{{Shakespeare}} who he's based on]], has gotta be [[LukeNounverber Spearshaker]].
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*** It was so strongly implied as to be stated outright that it was the ''king''. Droit de Signeur and all that.
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*** It was so strongly implied as to be stated outright that it was the ''king''. Droit de Signeur and all that.
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**** Um, no... [[spoiler: it's stated that Verrence II and Tomjon were the sons of the former Fool, who was a very good climber and "[[IfYouKnowWhatIMean very popular at court]]". Also if you notice, neither man was able to see the ghost of Verrence I, which could only be seen by wizards, witches, and relatives.]]
