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This is a "Wild Mass Guess" entry, where we pull out all the sanity stops on theorizing. The regular entry on this topic is elsewhere. Please see this programme note.
Wyrd Sisters
WMG for Wyrd Sisters. Warning: Potential unmarked spoilers.

The last name of Hwel, the dwarf playwright from Wyrd Sisters...
...given who he's based on. and assuming he has one, has gotta be Spearshaker.
  • For a dwarf, Makespeare seems more appropriate.

Verence II
was the bastard son of the Queen of Lancre. Because of the way it had been implied that the young Gytha Ogg "committed treason with a leg of mutton" (assuming "his life above stairs" was an Unusual Euphemism, and not literal). The Land accepts him because he acts properly kingly, rather than like a gluttonous, mad, or otherwise unfit usurper.
  • Is it still Wild Mass Guessing when it's stated outright?
    • It's stated that Verence II and Tomjon were the sons of the former Fool, who was a very good climber and "very popular at court". Also if you notice, neither man was able to see the ghost of Verence I, which could only be seen by wizards, witches, and relatives.
      • Also cats.
    • This is a slight misreading. Verence II is NOT the Queen's son, Tomjon is - but they have the same father. This is revealed at the end, with the public implication that this father is King Verence I. In fact, however, the father of both is the former Fool. Meaning that Tomjon is the Queen's bastard, and Verence II is a legitimate commoner, neither being related to Verence I.

The History Monks are aware of Granny's use of a Timey-Wimey Ball but have not intervened.
As pointed out in the main section, the Discworld timeline is a bit dodgy. To answer the question whether the History Monks had to fix up these events in any capacity, perhaps they did notice, but thought that everything has turned out as it ought to be (for a given value of 'ought to'). That gives them a spare fifteen years that nobody was using, which might be useful somewhere (or somewhen) else. Besides, the Monks know an immovable object when they see one, and wouldn't be game to confront Granny directly.

The Colour of MagicWMG/DiscworldPyramids
Wuthering HeightsWMG/LiteratureXanth

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