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* According to the comics, imprisonment seems to be the usual punishment. Cedrid and Phobos (between others) were trapped, without magic, in the Tower of Mist.
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* The Hearts of worlds mentioned in the W.I.T.C.H. show are the same kind that are in Kingdom Hearts, only they're avatars of the world's power instead of being sealed behind a door.

[[WMG: Each Guardian takes turns being the Keeper.]]
Going with the above WMG about the Heart being addictive to the Keeper, it would make sense that no one Guardian would hold it for very long. When the Heart was taken away from Nerissa it wasn't a punishment but a procedure; the Oracle noticed Nerissa was quickly succumbing to the Heart's effects and took action, but Nerissa was too far gone. He acquisition of Hearts isn't just regular megalomania, ''she's feeding her addiction''. This explains why she was only imprisoned [[spoiler: twice]] for murdering Cassidy, the Oracle and her teammates realize she's not entirely in control of her actions but also know she's too dangerous to be free. [[spoiler: Trapping her in the dream world]] was the best they could come up with in the end.
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W.I.T.C.H ''is Disney'', and Kandrakar happens to be the center to all worlds. The Runici are against Kandrakar because the Oracle didn't intervene when their worlds were destroyed; [[LightIsNotGood the Oracle can see the future he/she, so he/she knew that everything would get fixed without the Guardians.]]

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W.I.T.C.H ''is Disney'', and Kandrakar happens to be the center to all worlds. The Runici are against Kandrakar because the Oracle didn't intervene when their worlds were destroyed; [[LightIsNotGood the Oracle can see the future he/she, future, so he/she knew that everything would get fixed without the Guardians.]]
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[[WMG: Kandrakar is KingdomHearts.]]

W.I.T.C.H ''is Disney'', and Kandrakar happens to be the center to all worlds. The Runici are against Kandrakar because the Oracle didn't intervene when their worlds were destroyed; [[LightIsNotGood the Oracle can see the future he/she, so he/she knew that everything would get fixed without the Guardians.]]
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[[WMG: Kandor is [[DoctorWho the Doctor.]]]]

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[[WMG: Kandor is [[DoctorWho [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor.]]]]
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* The Heart of Kandrakar was created by [[MagicTheGathering Urza]] or a similarly powerful planeswalker as another (successful) attempt to create a device that allows non-planeswalkers to travel between planes.
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Atem might even have direct connections to Kandrakar. The way Kandrakar records its history with pictures on its walls (it's not clear if these images are painted or carvings) kind of reminiscent of the scenes that ancient Egyptians would portray inside temples and tombs. If Atem helped in founding Kandracar or was even its first Oracle, his Egyptian heritage could have left its influence on the way certain things are done in Kandrakar. Kandrakar is also an afterlife of sorts, since Yan Lin ended up there after she passed on. The other founders could have used magic to specifically bring Atem's spirit to them since he had experience with the Shadow Realm. It could also explain how Will's power to unite is so similar to the power of the Millennium Puzzle, since that was the Millennium Item that Atem was the most familiar with.

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Atem might even have direct connections to Kandrakar. The way Kandrakar records its history with pictures on its walls (it's not clear if these images are painted or carvings) is kind of reminiscent of the scenes that ancient Egyptians would portray inside temples and tombs. If Atem helped in founding Kandracar or was even its first Oracle, his Egyptian heritage could have left its influence on the way certain things are done in Kandrakar. Kandrakar is also an afterlife of sorts, since Yan Lin ended up there after she passed on. The other founders could have used magic to specifically bring Atem's spirit to them since he had experience with the Shadow Realm. It could also explain how Will's power to unite is so similar to the power of the Millennium Puzzle, since that was the Millennium Item that Atem was the most familiar with.
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[[WMG: The W.I.T.C.H. series takes place in the same universe as [[{{Yu-Gi-Oh}} Yu-Gi-Oh!]].]]
More specifically, the W.I.T.C.H. series is set in the future (possibly extreme far future?) of the YGO universe. The recent villain Nihila is an Egyptian sorceress whose name was erased from history after her first defeat caused her to become SealedEvilInACan. Although the motive wasn't exactly the same, YGO set a precedent for this with what happened to the identity of a [[{{Yu-Gi-Oh}} certain Nameless Pharaoh]]. There are also hints that the magic in both series may be the same magic.[[hottip:*: Wall of Text alert!]]

Around the time of the New Powers arc when the girls get their upgraded transformations, Will's element/power begins to be referred to as the "power to unite." In the YGO manga, Shadi's first appearance leads to him challenging the Pharaoh to a shadow game to test the unknown power of the Millennium Puzzle. At the end of the 3rd round, the pharaoh boldly declares that the puzzle's power is the "power of unity.[[hottip:*: In the Viz English translations of the manga at least. Online scans translate the puzzle's power as the "power of trust between friends."]]" This means that Will's magic is the same power as the Millennium Items. Or at least the same as the puzzle.

The girls' powers are tied to their friendship. When they are united they are strong, and when they are divided their powers weaken. They even manifested [[AllYourPowersCombined the incarnation of their "victory" to defeat Dark Mother.]] The 4Kids dub makes it impossible to forget that the YGO series relies heavily on ThePowerOfFriendship, and this theme is in the manga too (though thankfully not as blatantly obvious or annoying).

For a place that's supposed to be located in the middle of infinity, Kandrakar is a rather easy place to get to if one has the means. In the YGO universe, anyone with the necessary magic could get into the Shadow Realm from any location. In the W.I.T.C.H. comics, anyone with the proper magic or access to a portal can get to Kandrakar from any location. Kandrakar is the [[EldritchLocation Shadow Realm]] in AFormYouAreComfortableWith. The founders of Kandrakar decided to exploit the accessibility of the Shadow Realm so they could keep watch over all worlds. While they were at it, they changed the Shadow Realm from a dark place that used to be a FateWorseThanDeath[[hottip:*: Sure 4Kids originally came up with the Shadow Realm as an alternative to [[NeverSayDie death]] but it's implied to be [[AccidentalNightmareFuel a place of torment from which there is no escape unless someone from the outside can release you]].]] into the cloud-filled sanctuary of peace and order that the W.I.T.C.H. girls know it as. This would mean that Kandrakar was founded sometime after the events of YGO, since Yugi and co. had to deal with the full blown horrors that lurked in the Shadow Realm.

Atem might even have direct connections to Kandrakar. The way Kandrakar records its history with pictures on its walls (it's not clear if these images are painted or carvings) kind of reminiscent of the scenes that ancient Egyptians would portray inside temples and tombs. If Atem helped in founding Kandracar or was even its first Oracle, his Egyptian heritage could have left its influence on the way certain things are done in Kandrakar. Kandrakar is also an afterlife of sorts, since Yan Lin ended up there after she passed on. The other founders could have used magic to specifically bring Atem's spirit to them since he had experience with the Shadow Realm. It could also explain how Will's power to unite is so similar to the power of the Millennium Puzzle, since that was the Millennium Item that Atem was the most familiar with.

When Nerissa led her march into Kandrakar, she pointed out the tower to Shagon and stated that despite the name, the place was actually the prison of Kandrakar. Later in the arc where Phobos had swapped bodies with Endarno, it was revealed that the prison cells inside the Tower of Mists [[LightIsNotGood change themselves to suit a particular person, much like a penalty game]] can be different for each person it's inflicted on. The Tower of Mists is filled with the remains of the Shadow Realm's dark power, and each prisoner gets his or her own penalty game inside their cell. There also could be other signs of Kandrakar's once dark nature that haven't been shown yet, as Nerissa also stated there were many more secrets hidden within Kandrakar.
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I put the the link to the Avatar: The Last Airbender article for people who aren\'t familar with Avatar.


[[WMG:Aang is the Oracle/This world is the distant future of the Avatar world.]]

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[[WMG:Aang is the Oracle/This world is the distant future of the Avatar [[AvatarTheLastAirbender Avatar]] world.]]
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Guessing about Heatherfield

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[[WMG: Heatherfield is in the [[{{Diabolik}} State of Clerville]].]]
When Elyon disappeared for no apparent reason, they called the Interpol. Why taking the case away from the police? Well, when something strange happens in Clerville they always think it's Diabolik preparing a new theft, and they called Interpol because when they called Ginko he deduced it wasn't him (he never harms children). Also, in Clerville used to use an unspecified currency later replaced by Euro, and people in Heatherfield acts almost like Italians, exactly as people in Clerville.
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What? Trying to situate Heatherfield somewhere else was giving me a headache!

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[[WMG: Atlantis exists in this universe]]

No one knows where Heatherfield is, sometimes they use euros and in the next issue they're using dollars, they live next to the sea... Heatherfield is in Atlantis! Why? RuleOfCool.

Instead of being in the Strait of Gibraltar, Atlantis is in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean in this universe and they have decided to use both euros and dollars because of trade-related reasons. Same goes for the language.
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Following the the theory above, Kandor is the Doctor. In fact, he's the Doctor in his last incarnation. Yes, people, [[RunningGag he ''finally'' is ginger.]]

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Following the the theory above, Kandor is the Doctor. In fact, he's the Doctor in his last incarnation. Yes, people, [[RunningGag he ''finally'' finally is ginger.]]
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[[WMG: Kandor is [[DoctorWho the Doctor.]]]]
Following the the theory above, Kandor is the Doctor. In fact, he's the Doctor in his last incarnation. Yes, people, [[RunningGag he ''finally'' is ginger.]]
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** Forget it, everyone is driving on the wrong side of the road... Next country!
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[[WMG: The show is somehow connected to ''{{Transformers}} Generation1''.]]

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[[WMG: The show is somehow connected to ''{{Transformers}} Generation1''.''TransformersGeneration1''.]]
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* Alternately, Alchemy was a potential Guardian candidate, maybe the Earth Guardian instead of Corny. It's suggested in Season 2 by Luba that Cornelia has her position largely due to her status as [[spoiler: the sister of the Heart of Earth]] and this may have knocked her out of the running.

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* Alternately, Alchemy was a potential Guardian candidate, maybe the Earth Guardian instead of Corny. It's suggested in Season 2 by Luba that Cornelia has her position largely due to her status as [[spoiler: the sister of the Heart of Earth]] and this may have knocked her Alchemy out of the running.

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* Candracar exists in a pocket dimension ''within the Heart itself''! Every time the girls go to the fortress they're Folding into the Heart while still carrying the Heart... it's a MindScrew, granted, but one of the specials showed the girls traveling in the Heart itself as test while still believing they were in Candracar.

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* Candracar exists in a pocket dimension ''within the Heart itself''! Every time the girls go to the fortress they're Folding into the Heart while still carrying the Heart... it's a MindScrew, granted, but one of the comic specials showed the girls traveling in the Heart itself as test while still believing they were in Candracar.




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* Alternately, Alchemy was a potential Guardian candidate, maybe the Earth Guardian instead of Corny. It's suggested in Season 2 by Luba that Cornelia has her position largely due to her status as [[spoiler: the sister of the Heart of Earth]] and this may have knocked her out of the running.



Using life force to murder is just so wrong it breaks the metaphysical laws and that's why Cassidy was able to be summoned by Nerissa and [[spoiler: resurrected by the end of Season Two]].

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Using life force to murder is just so wrong it breaks the metaphysical laws and that's why Cassidy was able to be summoned by Nerissa and [[spoiler: be permanently resurrected by the end of Season Two]].


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[[WMG: Matt and Will would have been broken up if the show had continued.]]
It's hinted in the Fiftieth issue of the comics that the two will one day break up (in a possible future where the girls stop being Guardians, granted). In ''S is for Self'' the talent agent was rocking out to Wreck 55 while seemingly unimpressed with the other acts so it's a given that in-universe Matt's band has great potential. Also in the comics Matt's music career has strained their relationship at times and a possible outcome of Season 3 would have had their growing responsibilities cause a mutual (if temporary) break. [[RuleOfDrama For the drama, of course]].

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*Wait, when did the Euro thing happen? Ireland is one of the few possible locations(the other being England, United Kingdom), true. But Euro would seal the deal.
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[[WMG: The Guardians are [[{{Immortality}} immortal]].]]
Because of Xin Jing's gift, Guardians are immortal (Type II or III). The current ones gave up their gift to Maqi, so he could live, but it's possible that they have it once more: using their powers without the gift used to tired them, but now they have the Aurameres inside their bodies without any negative effects...

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* Candracar exists in a pocket dimension ''within the Heart itself''! Every time the girls go to the fortress they're Folding into the Heart while still carrying the Heart... it's a MindScrew, granted, but one of the specials showed the girls traveling in the Heart itself as test while still believing they were in Candracar.




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** Which would explain why they [[spoiler: broke up permanently in the comics]]: the relationship was largely subconscious mind control on Cornelia's part. The visions the Oracle showed them in the Caleb/Cornelia special were to help them work through their issues without revealing too much of their false affection. Still... ouch.


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[[WMG: Killing someone with Quintessence leaves their spirit in limbo.]]
Using life force to murder is just so wrong it breaks the metaphysical laws and that's why Cassidy was able to be summoned by Nerissa and [[spoiler: resurrected by the end of Season Two]].
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[[WMG:Kandor is a Time Lord.]]
He is a telepath, centuries old and drives a van that is bigger on the inside. Yan Lin died before taking residence in Kandracar, who says that Kandor is not a Time Lord that died, maybe during the Time War, and was ofered a position in Kandracar?
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Really, where do the Guardians live?

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[[WMG: W.I.T.C.H takes place in Ireland.]]
It's an English-speaking country, that uses euros(comics) and that faces sea. They live in Ireland or in another English-speaking country that is part of the Eurozone.
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[[WMG:Kandor is a Time Lord.]]
He is a telepath, centuries old and drives a van that is bigger on the inside. Yan Lin died before taking residence in Kandracar, who says that Kandor is not a Time Lord that died, maybe during the Time War, and was ofered a position in Kandracar?



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[[WMG: Alchemy knew all along about W.i.t.c.h., Elyon, Kandrakar, and etc.]]
Well, why do you think she has minor appearances?

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[[WMG:The Season 2 is a dream]]
The Guardians never woke up in 'E is for Enemy'. Being a DreamWeaver, instead of nightmares Nerissa could give the girls a dream about how they defeated her in their shared dream and then 'woke up' and later defeated her in 'reality'. So, everything we see after this episode is a dream.


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[[WMG:The Season 2 is a dream]]
The Guardians never woke up in 'E is for Enemy'. Being a DreamWeaver, instead of nightmares Nerissa could give the girls a dream about how they defeated her in their shared dream and then 'woke up' and later defeated her in 'reality'. So, everything we see after this episode is a dream.
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[[WMG:The Season 2 is a dream]]
The Guardians never woke up in 'E is for Enemy'. Being a DreamWeaver, instead of nightmares Nerissa could give the girls a dream about how they defeated her in their shared dream and then 'woke up' and later defeated her in 'reality'. So, everything we see after this episode is a dream.
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[[WMG:Caleb and Cornelia's dreams.]]
The reason behind their shared dreams is Cornelia's powers. Cornelia is the Earth Guardian, Caleb is essentially a flower: they were connected trought the Earth Element.
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[[WMG:Kandor is a Time Lord.]]
He is a telepath, centuries old and drives a van that is bigger on the inside. Yan Lin died before taking residence in Kandracar, who says that Kandor is not a Time Lord that died, maybe during the Time War, and was ofered a position in Kandracar?
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Taranee [[spoiler: Is revealed to have been also adopted, which opens the possibility for her to be related to Kadma either by her mother's side, or his father's.

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It's going to be another flame-war


[[WMG:Heatherfield is in Britain]]
Will has a pet dormouse, a species found primarily in Europe. The background text is in English, indicating it's in either the UK or Ireland. Nobody seems to have an Irish name, and a place with a name like Sheffield Institute is more likely to be found in Britain. Specifically, Sheffield.
** WordOfGod has said the girls are American.
*** link please
**** Isn't the fact that in every single car in both the comic and the TV series the driver's side is on the left of the car enough to disprove this?
***** That's not WordOfGod. That could easily been DidNotDoTheResearch, or TheyJustDidntCare. A wild dormouse is more valid than which side the driver's side is on a car.

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