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*** Wha? It's not like there's no evidence for it, both in the game and in Norse mythology. Alicia just ''happens'' to lose her magic nukefire powers at the exact same moment Welkin gives her a ring, kisses her, and all her blue flames turn into green pollen? I think not. Obviously it was what ''she'' wanted, but the WMG posits the rest of the Valkyria committed superpower seppuku as opposed to just being bloodthirsty monsters. Or is it objectionable because it basically means Alicia and Selvaria were both children of unwed mothers...?
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Supposedly the Valkyria defeated the peaceful Darcsen, and then blamed the whole "conquering the world" thing on them; and there's ''no'' other written record of this other than the Valkyria's (and their super secret inaccessible temples); or even a vocal history by the Darcsen themselves. Then the Valkyria disappeared off the face of the planet; but not before giving their superweapon to a betrayer branch of the Darcsens who pretended to be Valkyria and were given their own kingdom. Supposedly there is an ancient language of the Darcsens, but nobody has ever seen an example.
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Supposedly the Valkyria defeated the peaceful Darcsen, and then blamed the whole "conquering the world" thing on them; and there's ''no'' other written record of this other than the Valkyria's (and their super secret inaccessible temples); or even a vocal history by the Darcsen themselves. Then the Valkyria disappeared off the face of the planet; but not before giving their superweapon to a betrayer branch of the Darcsens who pretended to be Valkyria and were given their own kingdom. Supposedly there is an ancient language of the Darcsens, but nobody has ever seen an example.
example in writing.
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Supposedly the Valkyria defeated the peaceful Darcsen, and then blamed the whole "conquering the world" thing on them; and there's ''no'' written record of this; or even a vocal history by the Darcsen themselves. Then the Valkyria disappeared off the face of the planet; but not before giving their superweapon to a betrayer branch of the Darcsens who pretended to be Valkyria and were given their own kingdom.
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Supposedly the Valkyria defeated the peaceful Darcsen, and then blamed the whole "conquering the world" thing on them; and there's ''no'' other written record of this; this other than the Valkyria's (and their super secret inaccessible temples); or even a vocal history by the Darcsen themselves. Then the Valkyria disappeared off the face of the planet; but not before giving their superweapon to a betrayer branch of the Darcsens who pretended to be Valkyria and were given their own kingdom.
kingdom. Supposedly there is an ancient language of the Darcsens, but nobody has ever seen an example.
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Any ancient writing of the Valkyria is either incredibly poetic/cryptic or else propoganda. Being able to use the power required specialized "awakening" (of which modern methods are a laughable attempt at) which were such an extremely guarded secret that a generation passed without anyone passing on the secret on how to awaken the power; and thus the knoweldge was lost; and the Valkyria used their remaining power to cover their butts.
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Any ancient writing of the Valkyria is either incredibly poetic/cryptic or else propoganda. Being able to use the power required specialized "awakening" (of which modern methods are a laughable costly and inefficient attempt at) which were such an extremely guarded secret that a generation passed without anyone passing on the secret on how to awaken the power; and thus the knoweldge was lost; and the Valkyria used their remaining power to cover their butts.
* The Darcsen Calamity was the destruction of the only known "Awakening" method of the Valkyria; with it gone they were doomed. In retaliation, they blamed the Darcsens.
* The Darcsen Calamity was the destruction of the only known "Awakening" method of the Valkyria; with it gone they were doomed. In retaliation, they blamed the Darcsens.
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[[WMG: The Valkyria lost their powers because nobody wrote notes on how to activate them.]]
Any ancient writing of the Valkyria is either incredibly poetic/cryptic or else propoganda. Being able to use the power required specialized "awakening" (of which modern methods are a laughable attempt at) which were such an extremely guarded secret that a generation passed without anyone passing on the secret on how to awaken the power; and thus the knoweldge was lost; and the Valkyria used their remaining power to cover their butts.
Any ancient writing of the Valkyria is either incredibly poetic/cryptic or else propoganda. Being able to use the power required specialized "awakening" (of which modern methods are a laughable attempt at) which were such an extremely guarded secret that a generation passed without anyone passing on the secret on how to awaken the power; and thus the knoweldge was lost; and the Valkyria used their remaining power to cover their butts.
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** [[FlameBait What have you done?!]]
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The genetic seal; ironically; would be nullified via rare cases of crossbred atavists of other races.
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The genetic seal; ironically; would be nullified via rare cases of crossbred atavists of with other races.
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What happened was the Valkyria were kicking butt and taking names; but then there was a feud among two smaller factions; who completely destroyed each other via a Final Flame attack in what was later called "The Darcsen Calamity." Realizing that their own power doomed themselves and the world; one branch who would become the Gallian Royal Family used a weapon/skill that genetically sealed their powers; and their memories of those powers and then used it on themselves; a side effect erasing their memories of everything and darknening their hair. The Darcsens walked away, the Valkyria vanished, and history had a muddled sense of what happened and blamed everything bad on who was left.
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What happened was the Valkyria were kicking butt and taking names; but then there was a feud among two smaller factions; who completely destroyed each other via a Final Flame attack in what was later called "The Darcsen Calamity." Realizing that their own power doomed themselves and the world; one branch who would become the Gallian Royal Family used a weapon/skill that genetically sealed their powers; and their memories of those powers and then used it on themselves; a side effect erasing their memories of everything and darknening darkening their hair. The Darcsens walked away, the Valkyria vanished, and history had a muddled sense of what happened and blamed everything bad on who was left.
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What happened was the Valkyria were kicking butt and taking names; but then there was a feud among two smaller factions; who completely destroyed each other via a Final Flame attack in what was later called "The Darcsen Calamity." Realizing that their own power doomed themselves and the world; one branch who would become the Gallian Royal Family used a weapon/skill that genetically sealed their powers; and their memories of those powers and then used it on themselves; a side effect erasing their memories and darknening their hair. The Darcsens walked away, the Valkyria vanished, and history had a muddled sense of what happened and blamed everything bad on who was left.
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What happened was the Valkyria were kicking butt and taking names; but then there was a feud among two smaller factions; who completely destroyed each other via a Final Flame attack in what was later called "The Darcsen Calamity." Realizing that their own power doomed themselves and the world; one branch who would become the Gallian Royal Family used a weapon/skill that genetically sealed their powers; and their memories of those powers and then used it on themselves; a side effect erasing their memories of everything and darknening their hair. The Darcsens walked away, the Valkyria vanished, and history had a muddled sense of what happened and blamed everything bad on who was left.
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[[WMG: The original Valkyria became the Darcsen.]]
Supposedly the Valkyria defeated the peaceful Darcsen, and then blamed the whole "conquering the world" thing on them; and there's ''no'' written record of this; or even a vocal history by the Darcsen themselves. Then the Valkyria disappeared off the face of the planet; but not before giving their superweapon to a betrayer branch of the Darcsens who pretended to be Valkyria and were given their own kingdom.
Hahaha. No.
What happened was the Valkyria were kicking butt and taking names; but then there was a feud among two smaller factions; who completely destroyed each other via a Final Flame attack in what was later called "The Darcsen Calamity." Realizing that their own power doomed themselves and the world; one branch who would become the Gallian Royal Family used a weapon/skill that genetically sealed their powers; and their memories of those powers and then used it on themselves; a side effect erasing their memories and darknening their hair. The Darcsens walked away, the Valkyria vanished, and history had a muddled sense of what happened and blamed everything bad on who was left.
The genetic seal; ironically; would be nullified via rare cases of crossbred atavists of other races.
Supposedly the Valkyria defeated the peaceful Darcsen, and then blamed the whole "conquering the world" thing on them; and there's ''no'' written record of this; or even a vocal history by the Darcsen themselves. Then the Valkyria disappeared off the face of the planet; but not before giving their superweapon to a betrayer branch of the Darcsens who pretended to be Valkyria and were given their own kingdom.
Hahaha. No.
What happened was the Valkyria were kicking butt and taking names; but then there was a feud among two smaller factions; who completely destroyed each other via a Final Flame attack in what was later called "The Darcsen Calamity." Realizing that their own power doomed themselves and the world; one branch who would become the Gallian Royal Family used a weapon/skill that genetically sealed their powers; and their memories of those powers and then used it on themselves; a side effect erasing their memories and darknening their hair. The Darcsens walked away, the Valkyria vanished, and history had a muddled sense of what happened and blamed everything bad on who was left.
The genetic seal; ironically; would be nullified via rare cases of crossbred atavists of other races.
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[[WMG: The reason the Valkyria are so rare now is because they lose their powers when they get married.]]
Wherever the Valkyria come from, it was a matriarchal society. It wasn't a OneGenderRace, they simply come from LadyLand; eventually when they came and conquered Europa, the Calamity happened. It's said that they installed Cordelia's family to rule and disappeared afterward-- but they didn't. They simply married. Just like the legendary Valkyries, marriage is a ''punishment'' that enslaves a former Valkyrie to her husband and robs her of her powers-- they ''knew'' the Calamity was their fault, but also knew they couldn't rule Europa and do penance for what they had done, so they installed the Darcsen traitor family as rulers in their stead, hoping to do both. Generations down the line the Valkyria eventually married themselves mostly out of existence; modern living Valkyria simply have never had married ancestors.
Wherever the Valkyria come from, it was a matriarchal society. It wasn't a OneGenderRace, they simply come from LadyLand; eventually when they came and conquered Europa, the Calamity happened. It's said that they installed Cordelia's family to rule and disappeared afterward-- but they didn't. They simply married. Just like the legendary Valkyries, marriage is a ''punishment'' that enslaves a former Valkyrie to her husband and robs her of her powers-- they ''knew'' the Calamity was their fault, but also knew they couldn't rule Europa and do penance for what they had done, so they installed the Darcsen traitor family as rulers in their stead, hoping to do both. Generations down the line the Valkyria eventually married themselves mostly out of existence; modern living Valkyria simply have never had married ancestors.
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* It even says in the game that the Valkyria themselves uses a Spiral insignia to represent their power.
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** The final subjects before the process was released to the public were the Aces who faced the Challenge of the Edy Detachment Skirmishes. Including one "Oswald the Gold" who has a connection with "Oswald the Iron" aka [[spoiler: Johann.]]
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* Yes, there are Commands in VC2; but not as reality-warping as Welkin's.
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Probably by Dr. Foerster, who doesn't care what country lets her experiment or who gets her research. The first subject was "Ty the Immortal", Imperial Ace who took grenades and headshots and kept appearing in later stages. The nature of this treatment was a kind of "Ragnite Implant" that burst upon the death of the body; flooding it with Ragnite and rejuvenating it. It takes ''very'' severe bodily damage to overwhelm a Ragnite Implant.
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Or at least a throwback to one, he didn't get the blue flames or red eyes; but his hair is a toned down grey. His power is in his Commanding Voice; which can; among other things; command machine guns to punch through tank armor. The Aged Gentleman was another one.
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Or at least a throwback to one, he didn't get the blue flames or red eyes; but his hair hair, normally brown, in some light is a toned down grey. His power is in his Commanding Voice; which can; among other things; command machine guns to punch through tank armor. The Aged Gentleman was another one.
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[[WMG: Welkin is a male valkyrur.]]
Or at least a throwback to one, he didn't get the blue flames or red eyes; but his hair is a toned down grey. His power is in his Commanding Voice; which can; among other things; command machine guns to punch through tank armor. The Aged Gentleman was another one.
* Yes, there are Commands in VC2; but not as reality-warping as Welkin's.
Or at least a throwback to one, he didn't get the blue flames or red eyes; but his hair is a toned down grey. His power is in his Commanding Voice; which can; among other things; command machine guns to punch through tank armor. The Aged Gentleman was another one.
* Yes, there are Commands in VC2; but not as reality-warping as Welkin's.
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Probably by Dr. Foerster, who doesn't care what country lets her experiment or who gets her research. The first subject was "Ty the Immortal", Imperial Ace who took grenades and headshots and kept appearing in later stages. The nature of this treatment was a kind of "Ragnite Implant" that burst upon the death of the body; flooding it with Ragnite and rejuvenating it. It takes ''very'' severe bodily damage to overwhelm a Ragnite Implant.
* Second game; characters do NOT die anymore if their bodies are set upon by enemies after they're downed. They're "hospitalized" for 3 battles; and then return good as new.
** The final subjects before the process was released to the public were the Aces who faced the Challenge of the Edy Detachment Skirmishes. Including one "Oswald the Gold" who has a connection with "Oswald the Iron" aka [[spoiler: Johann.]]
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Selvaria, in her Final Flame, transcended reality and is now a Queen Under the Mountain and she will arise to save Europa in it's darkest hour
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Consider: even by the most GENEROUS assessment, Gallia lost 75,000 people in EWII.... out of a population of 800,000. Now, even if we tweak those numbers to their most generous extent, that still leaves us with just under an 8th or a 9th of their population to death, and chances are it was actually *higher* than that. And then, just when the ability to rebuild is absolutely necessary, a civil war breaks out soon after the end of the Imperial invasion and lasts for about two years. Now, even assuming that births outpace deaths throughout this period of time, that STILL is a massive chunk of the Gallian population that is just ''dead,'' with the most affected being men and women in the prime of life (who are in the armed forces and generally get killed, incapacitated, or disappeared)- precisely those in the traditional childbearing stages of their lives- with most of the replacements being (naturally) extremely young. As such, the older generation is probably decimated in an almost literal meaning of the term (with about a 10% death rate and even more rendered all but hopeless by their wounds). And if Gallia faces another large-scale conflict at any point in the next twenty or so years, that demographic situation is likely only going to worsen. Which means that soon Gallia will be desperately short of warm bodies and with absolutely no room to maneuver in terms of military and political options. And traditionally when that happens, VERY bad things occur.
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Consider: even by the most GENEROUS assessment, Gallia lost 75,000 people in EWII.... out of a population of 800,000. Now, even if we tweak those numbers to their most generous extent, that still leaves us with just under an 8th or a 9th of their population to death, and chances are it was actually *higher* than that. And then, just when the ability to rebuild is absolutely necessary, a civil war breaks out soon after the end of the Imperial invasion and lasts for about two years. And this is before we talk about the more likely lower population threshold minimum, which would have seen at LEAST 46,000 dead out of a population of 430,000, WEEELLLLL over 10% dead. Now, even assuming that births outpace deaths throughout this period of time, that STILL is a massive chunk of the Gallian population that is just ''dead,'' with the most affected being men and women in the prime of life (who are in the armed forces and generally get killed, incapacitated, or disappeared)- precisely those in the traditional childbearing stages of their lives- with most of the replacements being (naturally) extremely young. As such, the older generation is probably decimated in an almost literal meaning of the term (with about a 10% death rate at least and even more rendered all but hopeless by their wounds). And if Gallia faces another large-scale conflict at any point in the next twenty or so years, that demographic situation is likely only going to worsen. Which means that soon Gallia will be desperately short of warm bodies and with absolutely no room to maneuver in terms of military and political options. And traditionally when that happens, VERY bad things occur.
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** Of course, this could mean that that comes in in VC 4...
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[[WMG: Dr. Foerster is the BigBad of the series]]
She has no allegiance to any nation working for both the Empire and Gallia. She experimented on Selvaria, and created every version of the Artificial Valkryia equipment. (Odds are good she'll work for the Federation and maybe had a hand in aiding VC3's opposition, Calamity Raven) She's completely without morals or ethics, and she's convinced that a Valkyria only has use as being a PersonOfMassDestruction. When she's got the Artificial Valkyria 'right,' odds are good she'll use it on herself. Then Alicia, Aliasse, Riela (aka No. 13), and maybe Isara have to take the bitch out before she unleashes a Final Flame that levels Gallia.
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* Jossed. VC 3 apparently takes place concurrently with VC 1, but focusing on a different squad.
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[[WMG: Something happened to all the male valkyrur]]
According to this theory, the valkyrur were not always a OneGenderRace. At some point in the past, though, something happened that killed all the males. The females who remained discovered that after many thousands of years of evolution they were still able to mate with human males, but that just wasn't enough to save their empire.