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6th Apr '17 11:09:10 AM ruiqi22
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Konoka and Setsuna cloned themselves (possibly with DNA from the other like how Touta is a Negi clone with Asuna's DNA) to make Honoka and Isana, or they were told to do so so that their unique power sets wouldn't be lost. They used similar technology to make Touta, which is why Honoka and Isana refer to him as a brother and why he has the Konoe last name; Konoka's healing magic was what kept him alive so he wouldn't be like the other failed clones. Or maybe his fake parents didn't know anything about his immortality and he was just named Konoe to pretend to be their son, but then why would Honoka and Isana refer to him like that?

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Konoka and Setsuna cloned themselves (possibly with DNA from the other like how Touta is a Negi clone with Asuna's DNA) to make Honoka and Isana, or they were told to do so so that their unique power sets wouldn't be lost. They used similar technology to make Touta, which is why Honoka and Isana refer to him as a brother and why he has the Konoe last name; Konoka's healing magic was what kept him alive so he wouldn't be die like the other failed clones. Or maybe his fake parents didn't know anything about his immortality and he was just named Konoe to pretend to be their son, but then why would Honoka and Isana refer to him like that?
clones.
6th Apr '17 11:07:50 AM ruiqi22
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[[WMG: The Konoes and Touta's Last Name]]

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[[WMG: The Konoes and Touta's Last Name]]Touta]]
6th Apr '17 9:58:36 AM ruiqi22
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[[WMG: The Konoes and Touta's Last Name]]
Konoka and Setsuna cloned themselves (possibly with DNA from the other like how Touta is a Negi clone with Asuna's DNA) to make Honoka and Isana, or they were told to do so so that their unique power sets wouldn't be lost. They used similar technology to make Touta, which is why Honoka and Isana refer to him as a brother and why he has the Konoe last name; Konoka's healing magic was what kept him alive so he wouldn't be like the other failed clones. Or maybe his fake parents didn't know anything about his immortality and he was just named Konoe to pretend to be their son, but then why would Honoka and Isana refer to him like that?
26th Oct '16 10:49:15 PM JapaneseTeeth
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** Then again, she also mentions that Nagi had a harem of a hundred women, and that Negi was capable of impregnating women at a glance, so her statements should probably be taken with a grain of salt.
11th Oct '16 9:36:16 PM GreatKeith
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It seems out of character for many of her old enemies to suddenly join her just because she's possessing [[spoiler:Negi]], especially when they're barely any older looking than their appearances in ''Negima''. It's possible that she can base her constructs off any powerful mage she encounters, including her enemies.

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It seems out of character for many of her old enemies to suddenly join her just because she's possessing [[spoiler:Negi]], especially when they're barely any older looking than their appearances in ''Negima''. It's possible that she can base her constructs off any powerful mage she encounters, including her enemies.enemies.
* This is certainly possible but Eva would've likely been able to tell if this was the case. After all she knew Fate wasn't human after their first meeting.
9th Oct '16 5:30:45 PM Bugfragged
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Not necessarily through Suu's Mad Science or anything, but somewhere along the lines their families merged. Which is why she bears such a huge resemblance to her namesake while having all the gadgeteer genius of Suu.

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Not necessarily through Suu's Mad Science or anything, but somewhere along the lines their families merged. Which is why she bears such a huge resemblance to her namesake while having all the gadgeteer genius of Suu.Suu.

[[WMG: Most of the Lifemaker's current allies are actually constructs.]]
It seems out of character for many of her old enemies to suddenly join her just because she's possessing [[spoiler:Negi]], especially when they're barely any older looking than their appearances in ''Negima''. It's possible that she can base her constructs off any powerful mage she encounters, including her enemies.
9th Oct '16 10:25:47 AM Hollownerox
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** Confirmed in a way. [[spoiler: Touta isn't actually a relative of Negi's, but a clone of him]].
9th Oct '16 10:24:48 AM Hollownerox
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** Confirmed.

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** Confirmed.
Confirmed since [[spoiler:Touta is a clone using Negi and Asuna's DNA]].



* Confirmed, [[spoiler:he's actually trapped somewhere]].

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* Confirmed, [[spoiler:he's actually trapped somewhere]].
alive but is the current vessel of the Lifemaker]].




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* Jossed, [[spoiler:he's a clone made using Negi and Asuna's DNA. ]]




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* Jossed. [[spoiler:Since Touta isn't a "child" of anyone, he was artificially created. ]]




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*** Jossed. [[spoiler:He's a clone made from Negi and Asuna's DNA. No relation to those two whatsoever. ]]




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* Confirmed. He has no relation to the Konoe family at all, just has their surname.



* Possibly Jossed: [[spoiler: As Negi was shown in chapter 119.]]

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* Possibly Jossed: Jossed, but also confirmed in a weird way. [[spoiler: As The real Negi was shown showed up in chapter 119.person, and Touta is confirmed to just be a clone of him.]]




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* Jossed. [[spoiler: As far as we know, Negi had no children, Touta is a clone made from Negi and Asuna's DNA.]]



*** [[spoiler:Confirmed...maybe. Chapter 82 reveals that Touta at least has the power of Erebea and the power of Magic Cancel (which is actually a power related to creation and destruction) inside him.]]

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*** [[spoiler:Confirmed...maybe. Chapter 82 reveals [[spoiler:Confirmed, outright said by Yue that Touta at least has the power of Erebea he is a clone made from combining Negi and the power of Magic Cancel (which is actually a power related to creation and destruction) inside him.Asuna's DNA.]]




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** Unlikely, because the Lifemaker's form of immortality (as Al once said) is ceaseless rather than deathless like a Vampires. The Lifemaker can still be killed, they just make the person who killed them their next vessel.




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** Confirmed in a way. [[spoiler: Al makes note that Eva might have been attracted to Nagi due to his simialrities with Touta.]] However also Jossed because [[spoiler:it also makes it clear that her love for Negi was largely unrelated to Touta, since Negi and him are two very different people in terms of everything aside from looks.]]
26th Aug '16 12:08:36 PM ShadictheHedgehog
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* Given the series' theme of immortality it would only make sense for [[spoiler:Negi]] to have a few on his side.

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* Given the series' theme of immortality it would only make sense for [[spoiler:Negi]] to have a few on his side.side.

[[WMG: Shinobu Yuuki is the descendant of Shinobu Maehara and Kaolla Suu]]
Not necessarily through Suu's Mad Science or anything, but somewhere along the lines their families merged. Which is why she bears such a huge resemblance to her namesake while having all the gadgeteer genius of Suu.
4th Aug '16 10:03:51 AM GreatKeith
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As of Chapter 109, we have two flashback pages that evidence this. She had a teacher who she adored more than Evangeline. Within the first panel, we have the image of a cross. On the next panel, we see Karin following a man with long hair. She apparently betrayed said man and hung her self, consistent with the tale of Judas.

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As of Chapter 109, we have two flashback pages that evidence this. She had a teacher who she adored more than Evangeline. Within the first panel, we have the image of a cross. On the next panel, we see Karin following a man with long hair. She apparently betrayed said man and hung her self, consistent with the tale of Judas.Judas.

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Yue and Nodoka are immortal]]]]
* First of all, [[spoiler:Nodoka]] and [[spoiler:Yue]] don't appear to have aged since their appearances in the previous series, when Ayaka is already shown to have aged considerably.
* Karin mentions that she thought they lost their lives in the previous war, but here they are alive and well. They also don't appear to be illusions since the [[spoiler:artifacts they use are the genuine article]]. It's also plausible that the [[spoiler:Lifemaker]] did something to them akin to what happened to Evangeline long ago, making it a bit personal in her case.
* [[spoiler:Yue]] was shown near the end of the parent series to have concocted a liquid Magia Erebea type potion that allowed her to cast spells with ease. It's not unthinkable that she could've discovered a method of immortality using her artifact, or even ''invented'' one.
* Given the series' theme of immortality it would only make sense for [[spoiler:Negi]] to have a few on his side.
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