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Frederica seemed to imply that Gustadolph wasn't always the [[HateSink complete dick]] he acted like in the demo. Maybe he got controlled by the true BigBad or at least forced to cooperate, having his loved ones threatened(maybe even his sister). So the atrocities he committed weren't really his fault but the true BigBad who was just someone too powerful for him to defy.

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Frederica seemed to imply that Gustadolph wasn't always the [[HateSink complete dick]] he acted like in the demo. Maybe he got controlled by the true BigBad or at least forced to cooperate, having his loved ones threatened(maybe threatened (maybe even his sister). So the atrocities he committed weren't really his fault but the true BigBad who was just someone too powerful for him to defy.
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* Confirmed. [[spoiler:Also, it's a false goddess whose main reliquary contains, in complete irony, evidence that the Rosellans enslaved by Hyzante are its rightful rulers.]]

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* Confirmed. [[spoiler:Also, it's a false goddess whose main reliquary contains, in complete irony, evidence that the Rosellans enslaved by Hyzante religion's main tenets are its rightful rulers.false.]]
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[[WMG: The final title of the game will be Triangle of Judgment.]]
Considering a large feature of the game is a KarmaMeter based around three factors, you might even say this is the Triangle you make your Judgments on. Considering Project Triangle Strategy(as of this editing) is only a WorkingTitle, this is still open to debate, feel free to suggest any others.
* Considering how Square Enix has fallen in love with titles where all the main words have the same number of letters (Bravely Default, Octopath Traveler, OT: Champions of the Continent), I think ''Triangle of Judgment'' is a good bet if ''Triangle Strategy'' isn't the final title.
* Jossed as Triangle Strategy is the final name.

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[[WMG: The final title of the game will be Triangle ''Triangle of Judgment.Judgment''.]]
Considering a large feature of the game is a KarmaMeter based around three factors, you might even say this is the Triangle you make your Judgments on. Considering Project ''Project Triangle Strategy(as Strategy'' (as of this editing) is only a WorkingTitle, this is still open to debate, feel free to suggest any others.
* Considering how Square Enix has fallen in love with titles where all the main words have the same number of letters (Bravely Default, Octopath Traveler, OT: (''Bravely Default'', ''Octopath Traveler'', ''OT: Champions of the Continent), Continent''), I think ''Triangle of Judgment'' is a good bet if ''Triangle Strategy'' isn't the final title.
* Jossed as Triangle Strategy ''Triangle Strategy'' is the final name.
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* Jossed, [[spoiler:Gustadolph is a textbook sociopath]].

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* Jossed, [[spoiler:Gustadolph is a textbook sociopath]].
sociopath]]. That said, [[spoiler:he has a nuanced set of virtues and principles, and he has a sympathetic goal of breaking Hyzante’s salt monopoly over the continent, but nonetheless goes to ruthless extremes in achieving it.]]
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* Confirmed. [[spoiler:The Hierophant is an Aelfric-powered automaton Idore uses to kill anyone who realizes he runs the country]].

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* Confirmed. [[spoiler:The Hierophant is an Aelfric-powered automaton Idore uses to kill anyone who realizes he runs the country]].country]].
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* [[spoiler:Jossed, Gustadolph is a textbook sociopath.]]

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* [[spoiler:Jossed, Gustadolph Jossed, [[spoiler:Gustadolph is a textbook sociopath.]]
sociopath]].



* Partially '''Confirmed'''; [[spoiler:he's not dead and can in fact rejoin the party with the right decisions, though his mysteriousness turns out to mainly just be a way for Roland to easily adopt Maxwell's identity]].

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* Partially '''Confirmed'''; [[spoiler:he's not dead and can in fact rejoin the party with the right decisions, though his mysteriousness turns out to mainly just be a way for Roland to easily adopt Maxwell's identity]].
identity. He does elaborate on his mask in his Character Stories, noting that he was using it as a way to distance himself from his past]].



* Partially confirmed: [[spoiler:The utility ending involves going for broke and using a combination of Aesfrost's armies and indignant backstabbing to dominate Norzelia - Aesfrost and Hyzante sign peace treaties in Glenbrook's favor. Serenoa creates a new empire that has begun the path to industrialization but screws up on social justice, which leads to an age of Robber Barons.]]

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* Partially confirmed: [[spoiler:The utility Liberty ending involves going for broke and using a combination of Aesfrost's armies and indignant backstabbing to dominate Norzelia - Aesfrost and Hyzante sign peace treaties in Glenbrook's favor. Serenoa creates a new empire that has begun the path to industrialization but screws up on social justice, which leads to an age of Robber Barons.]]



* [[spoiler:Confirmed. The Hierophant is an Aelfric-powered automaton Idore uses to kill anyone who realizes he runs the country.]]

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* [[spoiler:Confirmed. The Confirmed. [[spoiler:The Hierophant is an Aelfric-powered automaton Idore uses to kill anyone who realizes he runs the country.]]country]].
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* Jossed; none of the endings are perfectly happy, but Serenoa's conviction is used to convince the rest of his council to make a bad choice out of a set of horrible options.

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* Jossed; none of the endings are perfectly happy, but Serenoa's overly strong conviction is used to convince the rest most of his council from defecting due to make a bad choice an extreme decision. [[spoiler:Balancing out of convictions while completing special challenges in combat allows him to take a set of horrible options.
fourth option, but this is a non-standard ending.]]



* Partially confirmed: [[spoiler:The utility ending involves going for broke and using a combination of Aesfrost's armies and indignant backstabbing to conquer all of Norzelia]]

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* Partially confirmed: [[spoiler:The utility ending involves going for broke and using a combination of Aesfrost's armies and indignant backstabbing to conquer all dominate Norzelia - Aesfrost and Hyzante sign peace treaties in Glenbrook's favor. Serenoa creates a new empire that has begun the path to industrialization but screws up on social justice, which leads to an age of Norzelia]]
Robber Barons.]]

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* [[spoiler:Jossed, Gustadolph is a textbook sociopath.]]




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* Confirmed. [[spoiler:Also, it's a false goddess whose main reliquary contains, in complete irony, evidence that the Rosellans enslaved by Hyzante are its rightful rulers.]]



* The second demo more or less confirms this. Her mother was someone from another country, which is why she has pink hair.

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* The second demo more or less confirms this. Her mother was someone a Rosellan from another country, Hyzante, who escaped and married into the royal family on her own merits [[spoiler:leading an uprising, which made her a royal badass in the eyes of Aesfrost]], which is why she has pink hair.



* [[spoiler:In one ending, he'll pull a massive ScrewThisImOuttaHere in order to secure the freedom of the Rosellians. While they eventually find their lost homeland and live happily ever after, his obsession with freedom caused him to destroy the governments of ''all three kingdoms'', bringing the rest of Norzelia to its knees through continent-wide total anarchy and civil wars spanning an entire era.]]

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* [[spoiler:In one ending, he'll pull a massive ScrewThisImOuttaHere in order to secure the freedom Jossed; none of the Rosellians. While they eventually find their lost homeland and live happily ever after, his obsession with freedom caused him endings are perfectly happy, but Serenoa's conviction is used to destroy the governments of ''all three kingdoms'', bringing convince the rest of Norzelia his council to its knees through continent-wide total anarchy and civil wars spanning an entire era.]]
make a bad choice out of a set of horrible options.



* Partially confirmed: [[spoiler:The utility ending involves going for broke and using a combination of Aesfrost's armies and indignant backstabbing to conquer all of Norzelia]]



* [[spoiler:Confirmed. The Hierophant is an Aelfric-powered supersoldier Idore uses to kill anyone who realizes he runs the country.]]

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* [[spoiler:Confirmed. The Hierophant is an Aelfric-powered supersoldier automaton Idore uses to kill anyone who realizes he runs the country.]]
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* Alternatively, they are a PuppetKing of a figurehead with no real power beyond whatever Idore advises.

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* Alternatively, they are a PuppetKing of a figurehead with no real power beyond whatever Idore advises.
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* [[spoiler:In one ending, he'll pull a massive ScrewThisImOuttaHere in order to secure the freedom of the Rosellians. While they eventually find their lost homeland and live happily ever after, his obsession with freedom caused him to destroy the governments of ''all three kingdoms'', bringing the rest of Norzelia to its knees through continent-wide total anarchy and civil wars spanning an entire era.]]



* Alternatively, they are a PuppetKing of a figurehead with no real power beyond whatever Idore advises.

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* Alternatively, they are a PuppetKing of a figurehead with no real power beyond whatever Idore advises.advises.
* [[spoiler:Confirmed. The Hierophant is an Aelfric-powered supersoldier Idore uses to kill anyone who realizes he runs the country.]]

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* Partially '''Confirmed'''; [[spoiler:he's not dead and can in fact rejoin the party with the right decisions, though his mysteriousness turns out to mainly just be a way for Roland to easily adopt Maxwell's identity]].


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* Lyla naming a gem that explodes in a burst of flame "Aelfric", reminiscent of ''Octopath'''s Aelfric the Flamebringer, lends some credence to this theory.
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* Jossed as Triangle Strategy is the final name.
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Either the Hierophant is an actor, using secrecy to hide their truly disgusting behavior, or Idore is using an empty throne to rule Hyzante from the sidelines.

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Either the Hierophant is an actor, using secrecy to hide their truly disgusting behavior, or Idore is using an empty throne to rule Hyzante from the sidelines.sidelines.

* Alternatively, they are a PuppetKing of a figurehead with no real power beyond whatever Idore advises.
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We get a time skip five hundred years into the future, where Serenoa's contributions managed to destroy MedievalStasis at the unforgivable cost of turning the continent into a hopeless {{Cyberpunk}} dystopia.

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We get a time skip five hundred years into the future, where Serenoa's contributions managed to destroy MedievalStasis at the unforgivable cost of turning the continent into a hopeless {{Cyberpunk}} dystopia.dystopia.

[[WMG: Hyzante's Hierophant is a fraud]]
Either the Hierophant is an actor, using secrecy to hide their truly disgusting behavior, or Idore is using an empty throne to rule Hyzante from the sidelines.
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Of course, an alternative might be that he ends up inflicting something similar upon his allies or even the world in general - he ''is'' able to change people's minds with ease, after all.

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Of course, an alternative might be that he ends up inflicting something similar upon his allies or even the world in general - he ''is'' able to change people's minds with ease, after all.all.

[[WMG: Serenoa can be pushed into becoming a world conqueror and defeat all three nations, but at a staggering cost]]
If things get bad enough and most of the party dies as a result of his decisions, Serenoa will snap and go on a mad suicide run by attempting to conquer all three countries in a single go. This campaign is designed to be realistically near-impossible, as enemy waves will number in the ''hundreds'' and boss units from different nations will temporarily truce and stomp Serenoa's protagonist ass. But, if you somehow manage to guide Serenoa to victory, he'll take over the entire continent and bring it to unprecedented prosperity and horrifying genocide, driven insane by the combination of grief and power.
We get a time skip five hundred years into the future, where Serenoa's contributions managed to destroy MedievalStasis at the unforgivable cost of turning the continent into a hopeless {{Cyberpunk}} dystopia.
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* The second demo more or less confirms this. Her mother was someone from another country, which is why she has pink hair.




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* {{Jossed}}. The second demo makes it clear this is the first time they've met, though the later points are still possible.
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My guess is that Serenoa will end up developing a case of BlackAndWhiteInsanity based on what conviction he decides to blindly follow, becoming either a head-up-their-ass PrinciplesZealot (morality), a OmnicidalNeutral with a hatred towards all authorities or [[AnarchyIsChaos even principles]] (liberty) or TotalitarianUtilitarian who will do anything for the greater good (utility) by the time this happens.

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My guess is that Serenoa will end up developing a case of BlackAndWhiteInsanity based on what conviction he decides to blindly follow, becoming either a head-up-their-ass PrinciplesZealot (morality), a OmnicidalNeutral with a hatred towards all authorities or [[AnarchyIsChaos even principles]] (liberty) (liberty), or a TotalitarianUtilitarian who will do anything for the greater good (utility) by the time this happens.
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My guess is that Serenoa will end up developing a case of BlackAndWhiteIsanity based on what conviction he decides to blindly follow, becoming either a head-up-their-ass PrinciplesZealot (morality), a OmnicidalNeutral with a hatred towards all authorities or [[AnarchyIsChaos even principles]] (liberty) or TotalitarianUtilitarian who will do anything for the greater good (utility) by the time this happens.

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My guess is that Serenoa will end up developing a case of BlackAndWhiteIsanity BlackAndWhiteInsanity based on what conviction he decides to blindly follow, becoming either a head-up-their-ass PrinciplesZealot (morality), a OmnicidalNeutral with a hatred towards all authorities or [[AnarchyIsChaos even principles]] (liberty) or TotalitarianUtilitarian who will do anything for the greater good (utility) by the time this happens.
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As the trailer has shown us, he is the one for the pragmatic choices for the coming game and thus is the personification of "Utility", whereas Roland represents "Morality" and Frederica "Liberty". The last two came from different countries with Roland from Glenbrook and Frederica from Aesfrost, thus it's not unreasonable to assume that Benedict has his origins in Hyzante. As we have seen in the game, the Holy State of Hyzante is pretty corrupt and one of the saints [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain let a patient die for being not a believer]]. This caused [[spoiler:Medina]] to leave the Capital, so maybe something similar made Benedict defect to Glenbrook during the Salt-Iron war.

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As the trailer has shown us, he is the one for the pragmatic choices for the coming game and thus is the personification of "Utility", whereas Roland represents "Morality" and Frederica "Liberty". The last two came from different countries with Roland from Glenbrook and Frederica from Aesfrost, thus it's not unreasonable to assume that Benedict has his origins in Hyzante. As we have seen in the game, the Holy State of Hyzante is pretty corrupt and one of the saints [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain let a patient die for being not a believer]]. This caused [[spoiler:Medina]] to leave the Capital, so maybe something similar made Benedict defect to Glenbrook during the Salt-Iron war.war.

[[WMG: Letting any of the Morality/Liberty/Utility convictions reach a high enough level while keeping the others low enough will have dire consequences in the long run.]]
In keeping with GrayAndGrayMorality aspect of the conviction meter, following a single conviction dogmatically while ignoring the others will lead to very negative consequences or endings that will be unavoidable for the player once they are set in motion.

My guess is that Serenoa will end up developing a case of BlackAndWhiteIsanity based on what conviction he decides to blindly follow, becoming either a head-up-their-ass PrinciplesZealot (morality), a OmnicidalNeutral with a hatred towards all authorities or [[AnarchyIsChaos even principles]] (liberty) or TotalitarianUtilitarian who will do anything for the greater good (utility) by the time this happens.

Of course, an alternative might be that he ends up inflicting something similar upon his allies or even the world in general - he ''is'' able to change people's minds with ease, after all.
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*This last point may have been confirmed with a piece of dialogue from the latest trailer suggesting such [link[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRYUxA2IzVg]]]
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[[WMG: The final title of the game will be Triangle of Judgment.]]
Considering a large feature of the game is a KarmaMeter based around three factors, you might even say this is the Triangle you make your Judgments on. Considering Project Triangle Strategy(as of this editing) is only a WorkingTitle, this is still open to debate, feel free to suggest any others.
* Considering how Square Enix has fallen in love with titles where all the main words have the same number of letters (Bravely Default, Octopath Traveler, OT: Champions of the Continent), I think ''Triangle of Judgment'' is a good bet if ''Triangle Strategy'' isn't the final title.

[[WMG: Gustadolph Did Nothing Wrong.]]
Frederica seemed to imply that Gustadolph wasn't always the [[HateSink complete dick]] he acted like in the demo. Maybe he got controlled by the true BigBad or at least forced to cooperate, having his loved ones threatened(maybe even his sister). So the atrocities he committed weren't really his fault but the true BigBad who was just someone too powerful for him to defy.
* Alternately, the pretexts he gives for invading Glenbrook (that King Regna extorted the iron mines and had his cousin murdered when he found out) are actually {{Cassandra Truth}}s, which will result in a brutal BrokenPedestal moment for Roland.
* Given the history of the developers' games, Gustadolph could be a WellIntentionedExtremist. After all, while he does kill King Regna, he actively seems to be wanting the support of the other houses of Glenbrook, and shows disappointment if the heroes refuse to hand over Roland. He could be trying to unite the land against a common threat, and believes that he must conquer the other nations.

[[WMG: Ser Maxwell is not dead and is more important than he appears.]]

Pretty obvious one, but while it looks like he might be dead, the nature of his character and how he is presented leave it too suspicious to say he died that early. Not only is he TheAce, but he has a mask for some reason. Both of leave the idea that Maxwell has a mysterious role in the plot, perhaps being someone more important or even as a secret antagonist.
* As for the "that early" remember that the demo takes place in Chapters 6 and 7 -- midway through the game.

[[WMG: Hyzante worships a salt god/goddess.]]

As the trailer has shown us, the '''Holy''' State of Hyzante is heavily depicted to be a very religious country and quite possibly is this game's [[TheTheocracy Theocracy]]. They control the large salt-lake seen in the demo, which gives them access to a huge supply of salt, a resource that is very vital for the setting. Thus, it would not be unreasonable to claim, that their religion is centered around the importance of the salt. So maybe they have [[AnthropomorphicPersonification a deity that is the personification of the salt central to life]].

* Appears to be confirmed as a minor character in Hyzante says "Goddess forbid" in reaction to hearing tragic news. So it's very likely they worship a salt goddess.

[[WMG: Frederica is a HeroicBastard or the daughter of a mistress/concubine, and the WhiteSheep of her family]]

Her siblings have silver hair and light eyes, while she has red hair and dark eyes. And they have much more menacing facial features and designs compared to her. Since sexism doesn’t appear to be an issue in this game’s setting, it would be reasonable to assume she wasn’t married off to Serenoa because she was a woman, but because she wasn’t seen as a legitimate royal.

Her personality is also at odds with the rest of her siblings - being focused on peace and compassion and being a magic user instead of a warmongering physical combatant. It can also be assumed this made her the {{Unfavorite}} growing up. Building on the above WMG about Gustadolf, he was probably the only royal sibling to treat her with some kindness, which is why she still believes in him.

[[WMG: Frederica actually fancies Serenoa. And this will be a source of emotional drama and CharacterDevelopment]]

Since there was peace for years before everything went down, it can be safe to assume that Frederica and Serenoa met at least once before being betrothed - most likely at feasts or tourneys. Frederica’s personality type would make her prone to SingleWomanSeeksGoodMan. And it happened to be just her luck that she was betrothed to someone she was already infatuated with. This would also be a subversion of the usual trappings of the ArrangedMarriage trope where it is portrayed as a negative thing and one or both parties actively oppose the arrangement.

Of course she would be aware that while Serenoa is amicable towards her, he isn’t exactly head-over-heels in love with her. So she keeps her feelings inside and [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy supports him]], whether he learns to love her or not.

As for if that actually happens, it depends on the player’s choices. If the player makes Serenoa choose more compassionate choices, he will grow to love Frederica and her feelings will evolve from infatuation to loving the real him. If the player makes more ruthless choices, she will leave and join with Gustadolf. When that happens, she will tell him that she realised she [[LovingAShadow loved the idea of him]], rather than what he actually was.

[[WMG: ''Triangle Strategy'' is set in the same world as ''VideoGame/OctopathTraveler'']]

Both are described as taking place on continents (Norzelia for ''Triangle Strategy'', Orsterra for ''Octopath Traveler'') rather than planets, so they can easily be on the same planet.

[[WMG: Benedict comes from Hyzante.]]

As the trailer has shown us, he is the one for the pragmatic choices for the coming game and thus is the personification of "Utility", whereas Roland represents "Morality" and Frederica "Liberty". The last two came from different countries with Roland from Glenbrook and Frederica from Aesfrost, thus it's not unreasonable to assume that Benedict has his origins in Hyzante. As we have seen in the game, the Holy State of Hyzante is pretty corrupt and one of the saints [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain let a patient die for being not a believer]]. This caused [[spoiler:Medina]] to leave the Capital, so maybe something similar made Benedict defect to Glenbrook during the Salt-Iron war.

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