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* ''Father of All Motherfuckers'' by Music/GreenDay (2020): An attempted RevisitingTheRoots album that quickly became one of the worst rated records of 2020, mocked for its poor quality and juvenile title (which had to be {{censored|Title}} in most releases to the arguably improved ''Father of All...''), and Todd's [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1259547550903869441?s=20 initial impression]] of the titular single suggests he'd find the album worth covering. While many people feel Green Day's careers were already over after either ''Music/TwentyFirstCenturyBreakdown'' or the ''¡Uno! ¡Dos! ¡Tré!'' trilogy, Todd stated in the ''Podcast/SongVsSong'' podcast that Green Day were still a hugely relevant band throughout the 2010s like Music/{{Aerosmith}} was in the '90s and early 2000s, so he's most likely to single out ''Father of All...'' as the band's true Trainwreckord instead depending on what happens next.

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* ''Father of All Motherfuckers'' by Music/GreenDay (2020): An attempted RevisitingTheRoots album that quickly became one of the worst rated records of 2020, mocked for its poor quality and juvenile title (which had to be {{censored|Title}} in most releases to the arguably improved ''Father of All...''), and Todd's [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1259547550903869441?s=20 initial impression]] of the titular single suggests he'd find the album worth covering. While many people feel Green Day's careers were already over after either ''Music/TwentyFirstCenturyBreakdown'' or the ''¡Uno! ¡Dos! ¡Tré!'' trilogy, Todd stated in the ''Podcast/SongVsSong'' podcast that Green Day were still a hugely relevant band throughout the 2010s like Music/{{Aerosmith}} was in the '90s and early 2000s, so he's most likely to single out ''Father of All...'' as the band's true Trainwreckord instead depending on what happens next.whether or not he considers their well-received 2024 album ''Saviors'' another genuine comeback.
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Removing Frankie; Todd just posted a Patreon video for a OHW episode instead.


* ''Liverpool'' by Music/FrankieGoesToHollywood: Emerging as the chief rival to Music/DuranDuran following the decline of Music/SpandauBallet, their SignatureSong "Relax" would unfortunately spark a chain reaction of BBC Radio bans and homophobic backlash against the band's two openly gay members that would stall their momentum. By the time they released their sophomore album, public scrutiny and tensions with their label kept them from repeating their immense early success and resulted in a disastrous promotional tour that broke them up within a year. While liked by fans, the album itself was derided by critics for its shift to a harder rock sound, the end result of ''Welcome to the Pleasuredome'' producer Music/TrevorHorn's absence. Todd hinted that he recognizes FGTH as more than just the "Relax" band in the ''Music/CutTheCrap'' episode, so they may be a viable choice.
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* ''Give My Regards to Broad Street'' by Music/PaulMcCartney: Paul was still a huge music star at the start of the 80s, though his status as an A-lister came crashing down thanks to this ill-fated soundtrack of mostly covers (both of his work in The Beatles and his solo career) that was attached to a passion project film for Paul that was instantly labeled as a vanity project. Both the album and film flopped horribly with only the hit song "No More Lonely Nights" (which featured guitar work from Pink Floyd guitarist, David Gilmour) being fondly remembered. While Paul is still a huge figure in music, his mainstream reputation and hit status never truly recovered after the film.
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* ''Donda 2'' by Music/KanyeWest (2022): The original ''Donda'' polarized critics, but was so heavily hyped that it was a major commercial success and continued Kanye's relevancy despite increasing scrutiny towards his offstage antics. This album, however, was seen as a huge misstep due to the fact that it was locked to Kanye's $200+ Stem Player, leading to widespread piracy. Those who ''did'' listen to it panned it for the unfinished nature of its songs and the fact that much of the lyrics focused on his divorce from Creator/KimKardashian and his bitterness towards [[Creator/PeteDavidson her new boyfriend]]. While Kanye voiced plans to update it for a wider release a-la ''The Life of Pablo'', his chances of winning back much of his audience further mitigated from October 2022 onwards thanks to numerous anti-Black[[note]]despite being Black himself[[/note]] and especially antisemitic comments (including praising UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler), to the point where there was major demand to remove all of his music from streaming services a-la Music/RKelly. West [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1610371896583008256 topped Todd's list]] of artists whose stock dropped the most in 2022.

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* ''Donda 2'' by Music/KanyeWest (2022): The original ''Donda'' polarized critics, but was so heavily hyped that it was a major commercial success and continued Kanye's relevancy despite increasing scrutiny towards his offstage antics. This album, however, was seen as a huge misstep due to the fact that it was locked to Kanye's $200+ Stem Player, leading to widespread piracy. Those who ''did'' listen to it panned it for the unfinished nature of its songs and the fact that much of the lyrics focused on his divorce from Creator/KimKardashian and his bitterness towards [[Creator/PeteDavidson her new boyfriend]]. While Kanye voiced plans to update it for a wider release a-la ''The Life of Pablo'', ''Music/TheLifeOfPablo'', his chances of winning back much of his audience further mitigated from October 2022 onwards thanks to numerous anti-Black[[note]]despite being Black himself[[/note]] and especially antisemitic comments (including praising UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler), to the point where there was major demand to remove all of his music from streaming services a-la Music/RKelly. West [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1610371896583008256 topped Todd's list]] of artists whose stock dropped the most in 2022.
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I don't think he's gonna talk about it.


* ''The Wall'' by WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic: Unlikely, but it was a legitimate album which is treated as a career killer and was notorious enough to be panned by The Needle Drop.
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* ''Music'' by Music/{{Sia}} (2021): After emerging as one of the 2010s' most unique pop stars, Sia decided to take a stab at [[Film/Music2021 filmmaking]] that all but destroyed her reputation thanks to its controversial depiction of autism[[note]]which relied heavily on the InspirationallyDisadvantaged and DisabilitySuperpower tropes and seemed to endorse prone restraint (which in real-world practice has caused serious injury to and even killed autistic people)[[/note]] and her hostile responses to autistic actors who protested the film. Not only was the film panned by critics for its overt ableism and nominated for four [[UsefulNotes/GoldenRaspberryAward Razzies]], winning three (including Worst Director for Sia herself), the album also bombed commercially, failing to chart on the Billboard 200 with middling critical reception at best, while Sia herself [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1482136076189769730 made #5]] on Todd's list for artists whose stock dropped the most in 2021. Todd also panned the film on Twitter stating that it [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1572959831824154625?s=20&t=MkyPeMrQekI2qcjsPKTtTw does not waste any time being exactly what it is reported to be.]] Furthermore, he [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1572961452687851522?s=20&t=uytifDPPTUd5H7dQ2c71HQ jossed]] the possibility of reviewing the movie separately on ''Song vs. Song'', as Lina refuses to watch it, so he'd have to make a ''Trainwreckords'' episode to discuss it in-depth. Even though Sia made somewhat of a comeback with the chart resurgence of her 2016 song "Unstoppable" in 2022, it's unlikely she'll be able to escape the disastrous PR surrounding ''Music'' anytime soon.

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* ''Music'' by Music/{{Sia}} (2021): After emerging as one of the 2010s' most unique pop stars, Sia decided to take a stab at [[Film/Music2021 filmmaking]] that all but destroyed her reputation thanks to its controversial depiction of autism[[note]]which relied heavily on the InspirationallyDisadvantaged and DisabilitySuperpower tropes and seemed to endorse prone restraint (which in real-world practice has caused serious injury to and even killed autistic people)[[/note]] and her hostile responses to autistic actors who protested the film. Not only was the film panned by critics for its overt ableism and nominated for four [[UsefulNotes/GoldenRaspberryAward [[MediaNotes/GoldenRaspberryAward Razzies]], winning three (including Worst Director for Sia herself), the album also bombed commercially, failing to chart on the Billboard 200 with middling critical reception at best, while Sia herself [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1482136076189769730 made #5]] on Todd's list for artists whose stock dropped the most in 2021. Todd also panned the film on Twitter stating that it [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1572959831824154625?s=20&t=MkyPeMrQekI2qcjsPKTtTw does not waste any time being exactly what it is reported to be.]] Furthermore, he [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1572961452687851522?s=20&t=uytifDPPTUd5H7dQ2c71HQ jossed]] the possibility of reviewing the movie separately on ''Song vs. Song'', as Lina refuses to watch it, so he'd have to make a ''Trainwreckords'' episode to discuss it in-depth. Even though Sia made somewhat of a comeback with the chart resurgence of her 2016 song "Unstoppable" in 2022, it's unlikely she'll be able to escape the disastrous PR surrounding ''Music'' anytime soon.
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We'll see with the newly-released single


* ''Man of the Woods'' by Music/JustinTimberlake: This was a ConceptAlbum on which Timberlake attempted to invoke his southern country roots as a guiding theme for his usual dance/R&B style. The result was widely panned, and despite country-pop crossovers being huge at the time, the singles lost steam quickly and ended what was left of his image as pop's king of cool, not helped by his coinciding Super Bowl performance. Todd already thrashed "Filthy", described the album as Justin trying to "reverse engineer bro country", with similarly unfavorable results, and said in his Worst Hit Songs of 2018 video that the entire album was "a Trainwreckord and a half, stay tuned on ''that'' one". In 2019, [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1155694243098386438 Todd confirmed on Twitter]] that he's waiting to see if Timberlake recovers with the album's follow-up before making a ''Man of the Woods'' Trainwreckords episode, however unlikely that may seem considering the reunion of [[Music/NSync *NSYNC]] and most notably, later revelations regarding his relationship with Music/BritneySpears during her CareerResurrection in the 2020s, especially in the wake of her memoir ''The Woman in Me''.

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* ''Man of the Woods'' by Music/JustinTimberlake: This was a ConceptAlbum on which Timberlake attempted to invoke his southern country roots as a guiding theme for his usual dance/R&B style. The result was widely panned, and despite country-pop crossovers being huge at the time, the singles lost steam quickly and ended what was left of his image as pop's king of cool, not helped by his coinciding Super Bowl performance. Todd already thrashed "Filthy", described the album as Justin trying to "reverse engineer bro country", with similarly unfavorable results, and said in his Worst Hit Songs of 2018 video that the entire album was "a Trainwreckord and a half, stay tuned on ''that'' one". In 2019, [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1155694243098386438 Todd confirmed on Twitter]] that he's waiting to see if Timberlake recovers with the album's follow-up before making a ''Man of the Woods'' Trainwreckords episode, however unlikely that may seem considering the reunion of [[Music/NSync *NSYNC]] and most notably, later revelations regarding his relationship with Music/BritneySpears during her CareerResurrection in the 2020s, especially in the wake of her memoir ''The Woman in Me''.episode.
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** ''Animal Ambition'': While appearances on the hit songs "Crack a Bottle" and "Down on Me" kept Curtis Jackson somewhat in the public eye after his peak, this embarrasing attempt at a comeback album cratered what little relevance he still has in the 2010s. His only splash on the Hot 100 since was as a guest on Pop Smoke's "The Woo".

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** ''Animal Ambition'': While appearances on the hit songs "Crack a Bottle" and "Down on Me" kept Curtis Jackson somewhat in the public eye after his peak, this embarrasing attempt at a comeback album cratered what little relevance he still has had in the 2010s. His only splash on the Hot 100 since was as a guest on Pop Smoke's "The Woo".

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* ''Curtis'' by Music/FiftyCent: This album and particularly the messy promotion around the album's release (releasing it on the same day as Music/KanyeWest's ''Graduation'', promising to retire if it sold less than Kanye's album, and then reneging when that exact thing happened) was the point where Fifty's reputation turned into that of a walking punchline within the rap community.

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This album and particularly the messy promotion around the album's release (releasing it on the same day as Music/KanyeWest's ''Graduation'', promising to retire if it sold less than Kanye's album, and then reneging when that exact thing happened) was the point where Fifty's reputation turned into that of a walking punchline within the rap community.community.
** ''Animal Ambition'': While appearances on the hit songs "Crack a Bottle" and "Down on Me" kept Curtis Jackson somewhat in the public eye after his peak, this embarrasing attempt at a comeback album cratered what little relevance he still has in the 2010s. His only splash on the Hot 100 since was as a guest on Pop Smoke's "The Woo".
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* ''The Beginning'' by Music/TheBlackEyedPeas: While it did score a few hit singles, it flopped badly compared to their three previous records, both commercially as well as critically. Todd has already touched on the events that led to their hiatus in his Worst Songs of 2011 video, but he hasn't discussed the record itself in depth aside from its leadoff single, "The Time (Dirty Bit)", which Todd considered their very worst song, a claim which he reaffirmed in 2020 on the "Podcast/SongVsSong'' episode on the group. It took several years for the Peas to reconvene (minus Fergie) for the follow-up, which was released in 2018 to very little fanfare, although it became easily their biggest critical success since their pre-SellOut days. While they eventually managed to make a chart comeback with the top 40 hit, "RITMO (Bad Boys for Life)" (with J Balvin) in 2020 and has since had modest success as a reggaeton act, they've yet to reach the earth-conquering heights of their heyday. Todd poked fun at the title in his review of ''Crown Royal'' stating it was tempting fate meaning he has considered doing a full episode of this album.

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* ''The Beginning'' by Music/TheBlackEyedPeas: While it did score a few hit singles, it flopped badly compared to their three previous records, both commercially as well as critically. Todd has already touched on the events that led to their hiatus in his Worst Songs of 2011 video, but he hasn't discussed the record itself in depth aside from its leadoff single, "The Time (Dirty Bit)", which Todd considered their very worst song, a claim which he reaffirmed in 2020 on the "Podcast/SongVsSong'' ''Podcast/SongVsSong'' episode on the group. It took several years for the Peas to reconvene (minus Fergie) for the follow-up, which was released in 2018 to very little fanfare, although it became easily their biggest critical success since their pre-SellOut days. While they eventually managed to make a chart comeback with the top 40 hit, "RITMO (Bad Boys for Life)" (with J Balvin) in 2020 and has since had modest success as a reggaeton act, they've yet to reach the earth-conquering heights of their heyday. Todd poked fun at the title in his review of ''Crown Royal'' stating it was tempting fate meaning he has considered doing a full episode of this album.
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* ''The Beginning'' by Music/TheBlackEyedPeas: While it did score a few hit singles, it flopped badly compared to their three previous records, both commercially as well as critically. Todd has already touched on the events that led to their hiatus in his Worst Songs of 2011 video, but he hasn't discussed the record itself in depth aside from its leadoff single, "The Time (Dirty Bit)", which Todd considered their very worst song, a claim which he reaffirmed in 2020 on the 'Podcast/SongVsSong'' episode on the group. It took several years for the Peas to reconvene (minus Fergie) for the follow-up, which was released in 2018 to very little fanfare, although it became easily their biggest critical success since their pre-SellOut days. While they eventually managed to make a chart comeback with the top 40 hit, "RITMO (Bad Boys for Life)" (with J Balvin) in 2020 and has since had modest success as a reggaeton act, they've yet to reach the earth-conquering heights of their heyday. Todd poked fun at the title in his review of ''Crown Royal'' stating it was tempting fate meaning he has considered doing a full episode of this album.

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* ''The Beginning'' by Music/TheBlackEyedPeas: While it did score a few hit singles, it flopped badly compared to their three previous records, both commercially as well as critically. Todd has already touched on the events that led to their hiatus in his Worst Songs of 2011 video, but he hasn't discussed the record itself in depth aside from its leadoff single, "The Time (Dirty Bit)", which Todd considered their very worst song, a claim which he reaffirmed in 2020 on the 'Podcast/SongVsSong'' "Podcast/SongVsSong'' episode on the group. It took several years for the Peas to reconvene (minus Fergie) for the follow-up, which was released in 2018 to very little fanfare, although it became easily their biggest critical success since their pre-SellOut days. While they eventually managed to make a chart comeback with the top 40 hit, "RITMO (Bad Boys for Life)" (with J Balvin) in 2020 and has since had modest success as a reggaeton act, they've yet to reach the earth-conquering heights of their heyday. Todd poked fun at the title in his review of ''Crown Royal'' stating it was tempting fate meaning he has considered doing a full episode of this album.
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* ''The Beginning'' by Music/TheBlackEyedPeas: While it did score a few hit singles, it flopped badly compared to their three previous records, both commercially as well as critically. Todd has already touched on the events that led to their hiatus in his Worst Songs of 2011 video, but he hasn't discussed the record itself in depth aside from its leadoff single, "The Time (Dirty Bit)." It took several years for the Peas to reconvene (minus Fergie) for the follow-up, which was released in 2018 to very little fanfare, although it became easily their biggest critical success since their pre-SellOut days. While they eventually managed to make a chart comeback with the top 40 hit, "RITMO (Bad Boys for Life)" (with J Balvin) in 2020 and has since had modest success as a reggaeton act, they've yet to reach the earth-conquering heights of their heyday. Todd poked fun at the title in his review of ''Crown Royal'' stating it was tempting fate meaning he has considered doing a full episode of this album.

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* ''The Beginning'' by Music/TheBlackEyedPeas: While it did score a few hit singles, it flopped badly compared to their three previous records, both commercially as well as critically. Todd has already touched on the events that led to their hiatus in his Worst Songs of 2011 video, but he hasn't discussed the record itself in depth aside from its leadoff single, "The Time (Dirty Bit)." Bit)", which Todd considered their very worst song, a claim which he reaffirmed in 2020 on the 'Podcast/SongVsSong'' episode on the group. It took several years for the Peas to reconvene (minus Fergie) for the follow-up, which was released in 2018 to very little fanfare, although it became easily their biggest critical success since their pre-SellOut days. While they eventually managed to make a chart comeback with the top 40 hit, "RITMO (Bad Boys for Life)" (with J Balvin) in 2020 and has since had modest success as a reggaeton act, they've yet to reach the earth-conquering heights of their heyday. Todd poked fun at the title in his review of ''Crown Royal'' stating it was tempting fate meaning he has considered doing a full episode of this album.
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* ''The Wall'' by WebOriginal/TheNostalgiaCritic: Unlikely, but it was a legitimate album which is treated as a career killer and was notorious enough to be panned by The Needle Drop.

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* ''The Wall'' by WebOriginal/TheNostalgiaCritic: WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic: Unlikely, but it was a legitimate album which is treated as a career killer and was notorious enough to be panned by The Needle Drop.
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* ''Treat Myself'' by Music/MeghanTrainor (2020): Though this was originally slated to be released in August 2018, it was delayed several times due to creative indecision and Trainor's struggle with panic disorder. It finally dropped to little attention in January 2020, by which point the industry had shifted dramatically since her mid-2010s heyday. While she did have some minor commercial success with the song "Made You Look" (which Todd hated and put on his Worst Songs of 2022 list), it's unknown if she'll continue to have further hits that will restore her to her prominence in the mid 2010s. In [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1212799613108998146 this tweet]], Todd said he was kind of sad that her career didn't last because it would at least have been fun to write about, which suggests that he finds her somewhat interesting and might want to make a video about her decline.

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* ''Treat Myself'' by Music/MeghanTrainor (2020): Though this was originally slated to be released in August 2018, it was delayed several times due to creative indecision and Trainor's struggle with panic disorder. It finally dropped to little attention in January 2020, by which point the industry had shifted dramatically since her mid-2010s heyday. While she did have some minor commercial success with the song "Made You Look" (which Todd hated and put on his Worst Songs of 2022 list), it's unknown if she'll continue the highly-panned follow-up "Mother" failed to have further hits that chart, thus ensuring her career will restore her likely not return to her prominence in the mid 2010s.mid-2010s prominence. In [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1212799613108998146 this tweet]], Todd said he was kind of sad that her career didn't last because it would at least have been fun to write about, which suggests that he finds her somewhat interesting and might want to make a video about her decline.

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* ''In My Defense'' by Music/IggyAzalea: After emerging one of the biggest new stars of 2014, her relevance was pretty much already done for by 2015, due a combination of HypeBacklash, [[OvershadowedByControversy controversy over]] [[PrettyFlyForAWhiteGuy her mimicry of Southern African Americans despite her white Australian heritage]], and general abrasiveness on social media. After several failed singles, she finally released her sophomore album in 2019, which did nothing to revitalize her limping career. Todd tweeted that [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1163097939398594562?s=20 he's probably going to cover it eventually]].



* ''The Big Day'' by Music/ChanceTheRapper: Though decently regarded by critics, his 2019 debut album was trashed by most of his fans and listeners and stiffed commercially. It received a rare 0/10 by [[WebVideo/TheNeedleDrop Anthony Fantano]], spawned one of the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQcGnEhciNY biggest rap memes]] of the year, and seriously hurt Chance's credibility, leading him to cancel the planned supporting tour. While initially indifferent towards the album, Todd [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1209202652254523392 listed Chance 4th on his top 5 artists whose stock fell the most in 2019]], so he's clearly impressed by its disastrous performance.



* ''[=LP1=]'' by Liam Payne: Despite his solo career showing early promise, the Music/OneDirection alum's debut album was marred by a delayed production and saw abysmal reception once it finally released, exacerbated by the controversy that the track "Both Ways" generated for its fetishization of bisexual stereotypes. Its first week sales (just 9,500 copies) were so poor that it stalled at No. 111 on the Billboard 200 and No. 17 in the UK. Todd [[https://twitter.com/useful_noise/status/1205586240684339200?s=20 retweeted]] a comment criticizing Liam's public persona compared to Music/HarryStyles (who dropped his critically acclaimed ''sophomore'' album just one week after the release of ''[=LP1=]''), which suggests he's definitely interested in the record's failure and will likely cover it someday, provided Liam doesn't have a surprise CareerResurrection.



* ''Natural, Everyday Degradation'' by Remo Drive: When their debut album ''Greatest Hits'' released to massive critical and commercial success and got the indie rock scene hailing them as "the next big thing", ''Natural, Everyday Degradation'' destroyed the band's relevancy as quickly as ''Greatest Hits'' began it. Having grown disillusioned with the emo scene, frontman Erik Paulson took the band in the opposite direction for their follow-up, even going as far as [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes removing their pre-]]''[[KeepCirculatingTheTapes Greatest Hits]]'' [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes [=EPs=] and singles from their Bandcamp.]] ''Natural, Everyday Degradation'' got away from the emo rock of their earlier material in favor of more polished and produced indie rock fare. The result did not go over well with audiences and critics, and the album flopped hard, dooming the band to obscurity. While the follow-up ''A Portrait of an Ugly Man'' fared better with critics, it performed even worse than ''Natural, Everyday Degradation'', making a comeback highly unlikely.



* ''The Owl'' by Music/ZacBrownBand: This album saw a shift towards pop and EDM which garnered no charting entries on the Hot 100, and was mostly panned by those who reviewed it. Fans were also bothered by Brown switching his music style even though he started a side project for his more poppy music (Sir Roosevelt). Todd tweeted in 2021 that [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1447051385892065281 this album is on his list]] after fellow creator WebVideo/SpectrumPulse suggested it to him.



* ''In My Defense'' by Music/IggyAzalea (2019): After emerging one of the biggest new stars of 2014, her relevance was pretty much already done for by 2015, due a combination of HypeBacklash, [[OvershadowedByControversy controversy over]] [[PrettyFlyForAWhiteGuy her mimicry of Southern African Americans despite her white Australian heritage]], and general abrasiveness on social media. After several failed singles, she finally released her sophomore album in 2019, which did nothing to revitalize her limping career. Todd tweeted that [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1163097939398594562?s=20 he's probably going to cover it eventually]].



* ''The Big Day'' by Music/ChanceTheRapper (2019): Though decently regarded by critics, his 2019 debut album was trashed by most of his fans and listeners and stiffed commercially. It received a rare 0/10 by [[WebVideo/TheNeedleDrop Anthony Fantano]], spawned one of the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQcGnEhciNY biggest rap memes]] of the year, and seriously hurt Chance's credibility, leading him to cancel the planned supporting tour. While initially indifferent towards the album, Todd [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1209202652254523392 listed Chance 4th on his top 5 artists whose stock fell the most in 2019]], so he's clearly impressed by its disastrous performance.



* ''Viva Las Vengeance'' by Music/PanicAtTheDisco (2022): Despite receiving positive reviews, this album didn't contain any hits unlike its predecessor, and not helping its case was accusations of sexual misconduct against Brendon Urie coming to light. Todd stated that he has gotten lots of requests for this album in the ''Song vs. Song'' podcast, but he enjoys it too much to cover. In January 2023, Urie announced that the band would split after the accompanying tour's conclusion, although time will tell if he will recover.
* ''[=LP1=]'' by Liam Payne (2019): Despite his solo career showing early promise, the Music/OneDirection alum's debut album was marred by a delayed production and saw abysmal reception once it finally released, exacerbated by the controversy that the track "Both Ways" generated for its fetishization of bisexual stereotypes. Its first week sales (just 9,500 copies) were so poor that it stalled at No. 111 on the Billboard 200 and No. 17 in the UK. Todd [[https://twitter.com/useful_noise/status/1205586240684339200?s=20 retweeted]] a comment criticizing Liam's public persona compared to Music/HarryStyles (who dropped his critically acclaimed ''sophomore'' album just one week after the release of ''[=LP1=]''), which suggests he's definitely interested in the record's failure and will likely cover it someday, provided Liam doesn't have a surprise CareerResurrection.
* ''Natural, Everyday Degradation'' by Remo Drive (2019): When their debut album ''Greatest Hits'' released to massive critical and commercial success and got the indie rock scene hailing them as "the next big thing", ''Natural, Everyday Degradation'' destroyed the band's relevancy as quickly as ''Greatest Hits'' began it. Having grown disillusioned with the emo scene, frontman Erik Paulson took the band in the opposite direction for their follow-up, even going as far as [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes removing their pre-]]''[[KeepCirculatingTheTapes Greatest Hits]]'' [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes [=EPs=] and singles from their Bandcamp.]] ''Natural, Everyday Degradation'' got away from the emo rock of their earlier material in favor of more polished and produced indie rock fare. The result did not go over well with audiences and critics, and the album flopped hard, dooming the band to obscurity. While the follow-up ''A Portrait of an Ugly Man'' fared better with critics, it performed even worse than ''Natural, Everyday Degradation'', making a comeback highly unlikely.



* ''The Owl'' by Music/ZacBrownBand (2019): This album saw a shift towards pop and EDM which garnered no charting entries on the Hot 100, and was mostly panned by those who reviewed it. Fans were also bothered by Brown switching his music style even though he started a side project for his more poppy music (Sir Roosevelt). Todd tweeted in 2021 that [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1447051385892065281 this album is on his list]] after fellow creator WebVideo/SpectrumPulse suggested it to him.
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** ''Trompe le monde'': Like the Music/VelvetUnderground, the Pixies are considered one of the greatest and most influential bands of all time by rock fanatics but never cracked the mainstream before internal drama tore them apart. Although this album hit stores just one day before ''Music/{{Nevermind}}'', which they had overwhelmingly influenced, its reception was comparatively lukewarm and it failed to launch them to a broader audience right when the timing was perfect. Ongoing tensions between frontman Black Francis and the rest of the band were exacerbated during the promotional tour and they broke up soon afterwards. They'd later get a ColbertBump from ''Film/FightClub'', but their time in the spotlight was firmly over by then, and while they eventually reformed in 2004, their more recent material hasn't fared well in spite of their enduring cult fanbase.

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** ''Trompe le monde'': Like the Music/VelvetUnderground, the Pixies are considered one of the greatest and most influential bands of all time by rock fanatics but never cracked the mainstream before internal drama tore them apart. Although this album hit stores just one day before ''Music/{{Nevermind}}'', ''Music/{{Nevermind|Album}}'', which they had overwhelmingly influenced, its reception was comparatively lukewarm and it failed to launch them to a broader audience right when the timing was perfect. Ongoing tensions between frontman Black Francis and the rest of the band were exacerbated during the promotional tour and they broke up soon afterwards. They'd later get a ColbertBump from ''Film/FightClub'', but their time in the spotlight was firmly over by then, and while they eventually reformed in 2004, their more recent material hasn't fared well in spite of their enduring cult fanbase.
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** ''Back on My Baby Jesus S*** Again'' (2021): Like Music/JanetJackson and Music/RobinThicke, his reputation had already taken a severe hit from a public scandal, in this case homophobic comments he made at a concert a few months before the release of this EP. Although he issued an apology, later actions undermined it. In the aftermath, not only did he lose several business endorsements, but his guest verse on Music/DuaLipa's "Levitating" (which helped make it only the fourth song to be the #1 song of the year without ever topping the weekly Hot 100) was largely uncanonized, with radio replacing the song with the original album version, ''Billboard'' removing his credit from the song (and not recognizing him as part of the year-end #1), and Dua Lipa herself openly criticizing his earlier remarks. The EP only peaked at #44 on the Billboard 200 upon release [[note]]His previous EP, released before the controversy, didn't fare much better, but considering the dire circumstances, a successful new release would have helped him[[/note]], and Todd ranked [=DaBaby=] [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1482136076189769730 first]] on his list of artists whose stock dropped the most in 2021.

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** ''Back on My Baby Jesus S*** Again'' (2021): Like Music/JanetJackson and Music/RobinThicke, his reputation had already taken a severe hit from a public scandal, in this case homophobic comments he made at a concert a few months before the release of this EP. Although he issued an apology, later actions undermined it. In the aftermath, not only did he lose several business endorsements, but his guest verse on Music/DuaLipa's "Levitating" (which helped make it only the fourth song to be the #1 song of the year without ever topping the weekly Hot 100) was largely uncanonized, with radio replacing the song with the original album version, ''Billboard'' removing his credit from the song (and not recognizing him as part of the year-end #1), and Dua Lipa herself openly criticizing his earlier remarks. The EP only peaked at #44 on the Billboard 200 upon release [[note]]His previous EP, released before the controversy, didn't fare much better, but considering the dire circumstances, a successful new release would have helped him[[/note]], and Todd ranked [=DaBaby=] [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1482136076189769730 first]] on his list of artists whose stock dropped the most in 2021.
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* ''Love Among the Ruins'' by Music/TenThousandManiacs: After becoming critical darlings in the late 80's and scoring their biggest hit in 1993 with a live cover of Music/BruceSpringsteen & Music/PattiSmith's [[Music/{{Easter}} "Because the Night"]], the band were dealt a major blow by frontwoman Natalie Merchant's departure to focus on her solo career. Despite [[TheBandMinusTheFace losing their most iconic member]], they trucked on with former guest violinist Mary Ramsey as their new lead and founding guitarist John Lombardo returning to the fold, releasing this album after a long hiatus in an attempt to capitalize on the revival of interest in Merchant's old band in the wake of her solo success. While their cover of Music/RoxyMusic's [[Music/{{Avalon}} "More Than This"]] was a hit, it was also their last; the album stiffed both critically and commercially, and the Maniacs never regained their former success or prominence despite Merchant-era songs remaining staples of adult alternative radio.

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* ''Love Among the Ruins'' by Music/TenThousandManiacs: After becoming critical darlings in the late 80's and scoring their biggest hit in 1993 with a live cover of Music/BruceSpringsteen & Music/PattiSmith's [[Music/{{Easter}} "Because the Night"]], the band were dealt a major blow by frontwoman Natalie Merchant's departure to focus on her solo career. Despite [[TheBandMinusTheFace losing their most iconic member]], they trucked on with former guest violinist Mary Ramsey as their new lead and founding guitarist John Lombardo returning to the fold, releasing this album after a long hiatus in an attempt to capitalize on the revival of interest in Merchant's old band in the wake of her solo success. While their cover of Music/RoxyMusic's [[Music/{{Avalon}} [[Music/AvalonRoxyMusic "More Than This"]] was a hit, it was also their last; the album stiffed both critically and commercially, and the Maniacs never regained their former success or prominence despite Merchant-era songs remaining staples of adult alternative radio.
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* ''Living Eyes'' by Music/TheBeeGees: With the decline of disco, the Bee Gees [[RevisitingTheRoots returned]] to their SoftRock roots for this record. It flopped badly. They had a few more moderate hits throughout the rest of their career, but nothing on the same level as their disco heyday. Although "You Win Again" was a monster comeback hit for them in 1987 overseas, it flopped in America because they were still associated with disco at the time. Todd [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1717664137042633067 commented on Twitter]] in a response to a tweet from [[WebVideo/DiamondAxeStudiosMusic Sean Fay-Wolfe]] sugggesting the album that the Bee Gees were "100% killed by the disco backlash whether they were a disco band or not", suggesting this album could be a likely candidate.

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* ''Living Eyes'' by Music/TheBeeGees: With the decline of disco, the Bee Gees [[RevisitingTheRoots returned]] to their SoftRock roots for this record. It flopped badly. They had a few more moderate hits throughout the rest of their career, but nothing on the same level as their disco heyday. Although "You Win Again" was a monster comeback hit for them in 1987 overseas, it flopped in America because they were still associated with disco at the time. Todd [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1717664137042633067 commented on Twitter]] in a response to a tweet [[https://www.twitter.com/seanfaywolfe/status/1717623975629791575 tweet]] from [[WebVideo/DiamondAxeStudiosMusic Sean Fay-Wolfe]] sugggesting the album that the Bee Gees were "100% killed by the disco backlash whether they were a disco band or not", suggesting this album could be a likely candidate.
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* ''The Hunter'' by Music/{{Blondie}}: While their adept blend of NewWaveMusic and {{disco}} brought them to superstardom and allowed them to endure the DiscoSucks movement with ease, CreativeDifferences within the band would put them on hiatus at the height of their fame. After frontwoman Debbie Harry's solo debut floundered, the band was hastily reformed and rushed out this release to appease Creator/ChrysalisRecords. The end result was a vague, muddied ConceptAlbum about "hunting" that bombed both critically and commercially, ultimately contributing to their breakup shortly after. While they reformed again in 1997 and saw success internationally (which Todd acknowledged in his video for "Give It to You"), they never reached their old heights in the US again.

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* ''The Hunter'' by Music/{{Blondie}}: Music/{{Blondie|Band}}: While their adept blend of NewWaveMusic and {{disco}} brought them to superstardom and allowed them to endure the DiscoSucks movement with ease, CreativeDifferences within the band would put them on hiatus at the height of their fame. After frontwoman Debbie Harry's solo debut floundered, the band was hastily reformed and rushed out this release to appease Creator/ChrysalisRecords. The end result was a vague, muddied ConceptAlbum about "hunting" that bombed both critically and commercially, ultimately contributing to their breakup shortly after. While they reformed again in 1997 and saw success internationally (which Todd acknowledged in his video for "Give It to You"), they never reached their old heights in the US again.
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* ''Cool Hand Lōc'' by Tone Lōc: His first album produced two huge hit singles, but this one failed to chart and earned scathing reviews, leading him to rely more on acting to stay afloat. He previously established himself as a raunchy yet radio friendly bad boy, but here he decided to apply his distinctly rugged voice to rap ballads, presumably to compete with Music/LLCoolJ and [[Creator/WillSmith The Fresh Prince]] at the height of their fame. Amidst the rise of hardcore hip hop at the same time, this LighterAndSofter approach backfired horribly and left him without an audience. Todd briefly noted that Tone Lōc was "no longer down with the ladies" by this point in the Young MC OHW, so he may take a closer look at this album somewhere down the road.

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* ''Cool Hand Lōc'' by Tone Lōc: Creator/ToneLoc: His first album produced two huge hit singles, but this one failed to chart and earned scathing reviews, leading him to rely more on acting to stay afloat. He previously established himself as a raunchy yet radio friendly bad boy, but here he decided to apply his distinctly rugged voice to rap ballads, presumably to compete with Music/LLCoolJ and [[Creator/WillSmith The Fresh Prince]] at the height of their fame. Amidst the rise of hardcore hip hop at the same time, this LighterAndSofter approach backfired horribly and left him without an audience. Todd briefly noted that Tone Lōc was "no longer down with the ladies" by this point in the Young MC OHW, so he may take a closer look at this album somewhere down the road.



* ''You Gotta Believe'' by [[Creator/MarkWahlberg Marky Mark]] & the Funky Bunch: Very similar to Tone-Lōc, this early pop rap act scored two huge hits on their first album, but their followup record was such a SophomoreSlump that frontman Marky Mark subsequently abandoned the music industry in favor of acting, through which he's had a much longer and more sustainable career ever since.

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* ''You Gotta Believe'' by [[Creator/MarkWahlberg Marky Mark]] & the Funky Bunch: Very similar to Tone-Lōc, Creator/ToneLoc, this early pop rap act scored two huge hits on their first album, but their followup record was such a SophomoreSlump that frontman Marky Mark subsequently abandoned the music industry in favor of acting, through which he's had a much longer and more sustainable career ever since.
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* ''Music/BridgesToBabylon'' by Music/{{The Rolling Stones|Band}}: Following in the footsteps of Music/{{U2}}, the Stones attempted to reinvent themselves as an ironic electro-rock band for Generation X, an approach that only served to cement their reputation as aging has-beens, with its glut of co-producers (at least ''eight'') leading to a sound criticized as incoherent. The leadoff single, "Anybody Seen My Baby?", while moderately successful, wasn't enough to save the record. Though they've remained arena-fillers to this day, they've only put out three new studio albums (the second of which was a CoverAlbum) since the release of this one.

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* ''Music/BridgesToBabylon'' by Music/{{The Rolling Stones|Band}}: Following in the footsteps of Music/{{U2}}, the Stones attempted to reinvent themselves as an ironic electro-rock band for Generation X, an approach that only served to cement their reputation as aging has-beens, with its glut of co-producers (at least ''eight'') leading to a sound criticized as incoherent. The leadoff single, "Anybody Seen My Baby?", while moderately successful, wasn't enough to save the record. Though they've remained arena-fillers to this day, they've only put out three new studio albums (the second albums, one of which was being a CoverAlbum) CoverAlbum, since the release of this one.
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* ''Music/BridgesToBabylon'' by Music/{{The Rolling Stones|Band}}: Following in the footsteps of Music/{{U2}}, the Stones attempted to reinvent themselves as an ironic electro-rock band for Generation X, an approach that only served to cement their reputation as aging has-beens, with its glut of co-producers (at least ''eight'') leading to a sound criticized as incoherent. The leadoff single, "Anybody Seen My Baby?", while moderately successful, wasn't enough to save the record. Though they've remained arena-fillers to this day, they've only put out two new studio albums (the second of which was a CoverAlbum) since the release of this one.

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* ''Music/BridgesToBabylon'' by Music/{{The Rolling Stones|Band}}: Following in the footsteps of Music/{{U2}}, the Stones attempted to reinvent themselves as an ironic electro-rock band for Generation X, an approach that only served to cement their reputation as aging has-beens, with its glut of co-producers (at least ''eight'') leading to a sound criticized as incoherent. The leadoff single, "Anybody Seen My Baby?", while moderately successful, wasn't enough to save the record. Though they've remained arena-fillers to this day, they've only put out two three new studio albums (the second of which was a CoverAlbum) since the release of this one.
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* ''Weathered'' by Music/{{Creed}}: Although the album was successful commercially, the band broke up due to tension between frontman Scott Stapp and the other band members, namely because Stapp was becoming increasingly insane and dependent on alcohol and drugs, with a botched show in Chicago in late December 2002 being the straw that broke the camel's back. After dumping Stapp, [[TheBandMinusTheFace the remaining members]] recruited Myles Kennedy to form Music/AlterBridge, which is a better received band than Creed, although not as commercially successful. Creed did reform in 2009 and released ''Full Circle'' before breaking up again in 2012.

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* ''Weathered'' by Music/{{Creed}}: Music/{{Creed|band}}: Although the album was successful commercially, the band broke up due to tension between frontman Scott Stapp and the other band members, namely because Stapp was becoming increasingly insane and dependent on alcohol and drugs, with a botched show in Chicago in late December 2002 being the straw that broke the camel's back. After dumping Stapp, [[TheBandMinusTheFace the remaining members]] recruited Myles Kennedy to form Music/AlterBridge, which is a better received band than Creed, although not as commercially successful. Creed did reform in 2009 and released ''Full Circle'' before breaking up again in 2012.
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* ''Baptized'' by Music/{{Daughtry}}: Similar to Music/{{Nickelback}}'s ''No Fixed Address'', this was another turn to outright pop was inevitably NOT well-received, which didn't bring them any more success on pop stations, who had already played their big hits without any real issue.

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* ''Baptized'' by Music/{{Daughtry}}: Similar to Music/{{Nickelback}}'s ''No Fixed Address'', this was another turn album by a 2000s post-grunge band making a GenreShift to outright pop that was inevitably NOT well-received, which well-received and didn't bring them any more success on pop stations, who had already played their big hits without any real issue.
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* ''Baptized'' by Music/{{Daughtry}}: Considering that Daughtry was one of the few rock acts to come out of ''Series/AmericanIdol'', this turn to outright pop was inevitably NOT well-received, nor did it bring them any more success on pop stations, who had already played their big hits without any real issue.

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* ''Baptized'' by Music/{{Daughtry}}: Considering that Daughtry was one of the few rock acts Similar to come out of ''Series/AmericanIdol'', Music/{{Nickelback}}'s ''No Fixed Address'', this was another turn to outright pop was inevitably NOT well-received, nor did it which didn't bring them any more success on pop stations, who had already played their big hits without any real issue.



* ''[[SelfTitledAlbum Avril Lavigne]]'' by Music/AvrilLavigne: This record did okay upon its initial release, but even the moderately successful leadoff single "Here's to Never Growing Up" set an ominous tone for the rest of its cycle, which finally came to a head with the infamous fourth single "Hello Kitty", which instantly torpedoed any remaining goodwill she had with the public. The close involvement of Music/{{Nickelback}} frontman and Avril's then-husband Chad Kroeger, which included cowriting "Hello Kitty", didn't help. Todd briefly compared Music/TaylorSwift's artistic downfall to Avril in his review of "Shake It Off", but he hasn't discussed her a whole lot beyond that. Although her 2018 single "Head Above Water" generated some positive feedback, the subsequent album of the same name did little to solidify any renewed interest in her.

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* ''[[SelfTitledAlbum Avril Lavigne]]'' by Music/AvrilLavigne: This record did okay upon its initial release, but even the moderately successful leadoff single "Here's to Never Growing Up" set an ominous tone for the rest of its cycle, which finally came to a head with the infamous fourth single "Hello Kitty", which instantly torpedoed any remaining goodwill she had with the public. The close involvement of Music/{{Nickelback}} frontman and Avril's then-husband Chad Kroeger, which included cowriting "Hello Kitty", didn't help. Todd briefly compared Music/TaylorSwift's artistic downfall to Avril in his review of "Shake It Off", Off" and talked about Kroeger's involvement in this album in the ''No Fixed Address'' episode, but he hasn't discussed her a whole lot beyond that. Although her 2018 single "Head Above Water" generated some positive feedback, the subsequent album of the same name did little to solidify any renewed interest in her.
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* ''Celebrity'' by Music/NSync: As the BoyBand fad of the late 90's and early 2000's was in its twilight years, this album shifted into hip-hop and R&B in an attempt to stay ahead of the curve. Though an initial commercial success, sales quickly dropped off and it ultimately undersold, becoming a GenreKiller for boy bands in the US until the rise of Music/OneDirection in the 2010's. The group disbanded shortly after, with Music/JustinTimberlake embarking on a successful solo career and JC Chasez became a behind-the-scenes songwriter after failing miserably to go solo himself. After the odd ocassional reunion over the years, the group would reunite proper in 2023 with "Better Place" off of the soundtrack to ''WesternAnimation/TrollsBandTogether'', although time will tell if this could signify a full comeback. Todd has also panned the lead single of the album "Pop" in his review of "Filthy" and One Hit Wonderland retrospective of "Give it to You" and dubbed it the group's worst moment implying he could have more to say about the downfall of the group and other boybands if he reviews the album.

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* ''Celebrity'' by Music/NSync: [[Music/NSync *NSYNC]]: As the BoyBand fad of the late 90's and early 2000's was in its twilight years, this album shifted into hip-hop and R&B in an attempt to stay ahead of the curve. Though an initial commercial success, sales quickly dropped off and it ultimately undersold, becoming a GenreKiller for boy bands in the US until the rise of Music/OneDirection in the 2010's. The group disbanded shortly after, with Music/JustinTimberlake embarking on a successful solo career and JC Chasez became a behind-the-scenes songwriter after failing miserably to go solo himself. After the odd ocassional reunion over the years, the group would reunite proper in 2023 with "Better Place" off of the soundtrack to ''WesternAnimation/TrollsBandTogether'', although time will tell if this could signify a full comeback. Todd has also panned the lead single of the album "Pop" in his review of "Filthy" and One Hit Wonderland retrospective of "Give it to You" and dubbed it the group's worst moment implying he could have more to say about the downfall of the group and other boybands if he reviews the album.



* ''Man of the Woods'' by Music/JustinTimberlake: This was a ConceptAlbum on which Timberlake attempted to invoke his southern country roots as a guiding theme for his usual dance/R&B style. The result was widely panned, and despite country-pop crossovers being huge at the time, the singles lost steam quickly and ended what was left of his image as pop's king of cool, not helped by his coinciding Super Bowl performance. Todd already thrashed "Filthy", described the album as Justin trying to "reverse engineer bro country", with similarly unfavorable results, and said in his Worst Hit Songs of 2018 video that the entire album was "a Trainwreckord and a half, stay tuned on ''that'' one". In 2019, [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1155694243098386438 Todd confirmed on Twitter]] that he's waiting to see if Timberlake recovers with the album's follow-up before making a ''Man of the Woods'' Trainwreckords episode, however unlikely that may seem considering the reunion of Music/NSync and most notably, later revelations regarding his relationship with Music/BritneySpears during her CareerResurrection in the 2020s, especially in the wake of her memoir ''The Woman in Me''.

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* ''Man of the Woods'' by Music/JustinTimberlake: This was a ConceptAlbum on which Timberlake attempted to invoke his southern country roots as a guiding theme for his usual dance/R&B style. The result was widely panned, and despite country-pop crossovers being huge at the time, the singles lost steam quickly and ended what was left of his image as pop's king of cool, not helped by his coinciding Super Bowl performance. Todd already thrashed "Filthy", described the album as Justin trying to "reverse engineer bro country", with similarly unfavorable results, and said in his Worst Hit Songs of 2018 video that the entire album was "a Trainwreckord and a half, stay tuned on ''that'' one". In 2019, [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1155694243098386438 Todd confirmed on Twitter]] that he's waiting to see if Timberlake recovers with the album's follow-up before making a ''Man of the Woods'' Trainwreckords episode, however unlikely that may seem considering the reunion of Music/NSync [[Music/NSync *NSYNC]] and most notably, later revelations regarding his relationship with Music/BritneySpears during her CareerResurrection in the 2020s, especially in the wake of her memoir ''The Woman in Me''.
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* ''Celebrity'' by Music/NSync: As the BoyBand fad of the late 90's and early 2000's was in its twilight years, this album shifted into hip-hop and R&B in an attempt to stay ahead of the curve. Though an initial commercial success, sales quickly dropped off and it ultimately undersold, becoming a GenreKiller for boy bands in the US until the rise of Music/OneDirection in the 2010's. The group disbanded shortly after, with Music/JustinTimberlake embarking on a successful solo career and JC Chasez became a behind-the-scenes songwriter after failing miserably to go solo himself. Todd has also panned the lead single of the album "Pop" in his review of "Filthy" and One Hit Wonderland retrospective of "Give it to You" and dubbed it the group's worst moment implying he could have more to say about the downfall of the group and other boybands if he reviews the album.

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* ''Celebrity'' by Music/NSync: As the BoyBand fad of the late 90's and early 2000's was in its twilight years, this album shifted into hip-hop and R&B in an attempt to stay ahead of the curve. Though an initial commercial success, sales quickly dropped off and it ultimately undersold, becoming a GenreKiller for boy bands in the US until the rise of Music/OneDirection in the 2010's. The group disbanded shortly after, with Music/JustinTimberlake embarking on a successful solo career and JC Chasez became a behind-the-scenes songwriter after failing miserably to go solo himself. After the odd ocassional reunion over the years, the group would reunite proper in 2023 with "Better Place" off of the soundtrack to ''WesternAnimation/TrollsBandTogether'', although time will tell if this could signify a full comeback. Todd has also panned the lead single of the album "Pop" in his review of "Filthy" and One Hit Wonderland retrospective of "Give it to You" and dubbed it the group's worst moment implying he could have more to say about the downfall of the group and other boybands if he reviews the album.



* ''Man of the Woods'' by Music/JustinTimberlake: This was a ConceptAlbum on which Timberlake attempted to invoke his southern country roots as a guiding theme for his usual dance/R&B style. The result was widely panned, and despite country-pop crossovers being huge at the time, the singles lost steam quickly and ended what was left of his image as pop's king of cool, not helped by his coinciding Super Bowl performance. Todd already thrashed "Filthy", described the album as Justin trying to "reverse engineer bro country", with similarly unfavorable results, and said in his Worst Hit Songs of 2018 video that the entire album was "a Trainwreckord and a half, stay tuned on ''that'' one". In 2019, [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1155694243098386438 Todd confirmed on Twitter]] that he's waiting to see if Timberlake recovers with the album's follow-up before making a ''Man of the Woods'' Trainwreckords episode, however unlikely that may seem considering later revelations regarding his relationship with Music/BritneySpears during her CareerResurrection in the 2020s, especially in the wake of her memoir ''The Woman in Me''.

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* ''Man of the Woods'' by Music/JustinTimberlake: This was a ConceptAlbum on which Timberlake attempted to invoke his southern country roots as a guiding theme for his usual dance/R&B style. The result was widely panned, and despite country-pop crossovers being huge at the time, the singles lost steam quickly and ended what was left of his image as pop's king of cool, not helped by his coinciding Super Bowl performance. Todd already thrashed "Filthy", described the album as Justin trying to "reverse engineer bro country", with similarly unfavorable results, and said in his Worst Hit Songs of 2018 video that the entire album was "a Trainwreckord and a half, stay tuned on ''that'' one". In 2019, [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1155694243098386438 Todd confirmed on Twitter]] that he's waiting to see if Timberlake recovers with the album's follow-up before making a ''Man of the Woods'' Trainwreckords episode, however unlikely that may seem considering the reunion of Music/NSync and most notably, later revelations regarding his relationship with Music/BritneySpears during her CareerResurrection in the 2020s, especially in the wake of her memoir ''The Woman in Me''.
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* ''Man of the Woods'' by Music/JustinTimberlake: This was a ConceptAlbum on which Timberlake attempted to invoke his southern country roots as a guiding theme for his usual dance/R&B style. The result was widely panned, and despite country-pop crossovers being huge at the time, the singles lost steam quickly and ended what was left of his image as pop's king of cool, not helped by his coinciding Super Bowl performance. Todd already thrashed "Filthy", described the album as Justin trying to "reverse engineer bro country", with similarly unfavorable results, and said in his Worst Hit Songs of 2018 video that the entire album was "a Trainwreckord and a half, stay tuned on ''that'' one". In 2019, [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1155694243098386438 Todd confirmed on Twitter]] that he's waiting to see if Timberlake recovers with the album's follow-up before making a ''Man of the Woods'' Trainwreckords episode, however unlikely that may seem considering later revelations regarding his relationship with Music/BritneySpears during her CareerResurrection in the early 2020s.

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* ''Man of the Woods'' by Music/JustinTimberlake: This was a ConceptAlbum on which Timberlake attempted to invoke his southern country roots as a guiding theme for his usual dance/R&B style. The result was widely panned, and despite country-pop crossovers being huge at the time, the singles lost steam quickly and ended what was left of his image as pop's king of cool, not helped by his coinciding Super Bowl performance. Todd already thrashed "Filthy", described the album as Justin trying to "reverse engineer bro country", with similarly unfavorable results, and said in his Worst Hit Songs of 2018 video that the entire album was "a Trainwreckord and a half, stay tuned on ''that'' one". In 2019, [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1155694243098386438 Todd confirmed on Twitter]] that he's waiting to see if Timberlake recovers with the album's follow-up before making a ''Man of the Woods'' Trainwreckords episode, however unlikely that may seem considering later revelations regarding his relationship with Music/BritneySpears during her CareerResurrection in the early 2020s.2020s, especially in the wake of her memoir ''The Woman in Me''.

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