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18th Mar '18 12:54:03 PM Hjortron18
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[[WMG: Asgardians ''do'' speak Old Norse]]
When Thor first wakes up on Earth, the first words he says around the humans who find him are "Hammer! Hammer!" Since the word is the same in Old Norse -- and might have come from Asgard -- that just might mean that he's actually speaking his native tongue, up until he notices the English-speakers around him. And that all the other gods and giants had been speaking it all this time too.
26th Jan '18 12:44:33 PM Hjortron18
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* Jossed, Odin sends him there via “dark energy“.

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* Jossed, Odin sends him there via “dark energy“.
"dark energy".
26th Jan '18 12:40:55 PM Hjortron18
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All jotnar are blue only when super-cooled, otherwise they have humanlike coloring. Full-grown jotnar take a while to warm up, so they remained blue while wandering around
Asgard. Likewise, full-grown Loki doesn't cool down very fast unless he's making direct contact with a source of extreme cold, such as the Jotunheim power source or an actual jotun. (Baby Loki, on the other hand, is very tiny and conducts heat pretty quickly.)

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All jotnar are blue only when super-cooled, otherwise they have humanlike coloring. Full-grown jotnar take a while to warm up, so they remained blue while wandering around
around Asgard. Likewise, full-grown Loki doesn't cool down very fast unless he's making direct contact with a source of extreme cold, such as the Jotunheim power source or an actual jotun. (Baby Loki, on the other hand, is very tiny and conducts heat pretty quickly.)



[[WMG: Loki ''will not'' be the villain of the sequel, but it will be about Raganrok]]
* The villain will be Surtur, who wants to bring about Ragnarok and end all of existance. But he knows the prophecy says Loki will cause it, so he tries to get Loki to do so.
** And Loki refuses. Surtur then proceeds to kidnap/do something to get Loki out of the way while making it look like Loki's doing horrible things, hoping that Loki will be found and punished for them because no one would believe he didn't (and subquently go mad from whatever the awful punishment is)... [[SpottingTheThread But Thor and maybe Odin and Frigga realize it's not Loki's doing]], so Thor has to find and save Loki before Surtur destroys too much pretending to be Loki, setting up an EnemyMine...and all that's the first act.
** The second act will deal with Thor and Loki's issues with each other while they go on some quest to find some MacGuffin to stop Surtur, including Loki turning into his jotun form and lashing out at Thor and Thor eventually giving Loki a long cooldown hug (with optional frostbite ensuing). They will get to the MacGuffin after fighting beings like Jormungand (not Loki's son here) and Dark Elves (maybe Malekith the Accursed or Pre-Kurse Algrim the Strong) and get to the MacGuffin, but it's just a MagicFeather and Loki says "well, that's it then" and knocks Thor out.
*** This. Especially the hug. This please.
** The third act will look like Loki's defected to Surtur out of pragmatism, but it'll turn out to be a sneak SuicideAttack that nearly kills Loki when Thor rushes in to save him. The Magic Feather turns out to not be a MagicFeather, but actually have a use, and heals both of them, and they go after Surtur in a massive battle to top any and all previous massive battles and be a CrowningMomentOfAwesome for both brothers. Then, Loki will leave, pointing out that he's still done horrible things, but he'll come by now and again "to make things not so boring" (aka help out if they need him). It will be a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming, a {{Tearjerker}} and proof that Loki can never really be a KarmaHoudini here.
* And then, in the coda, we'll see the Enchantress forming the Masters of Evil to go after Jane Foster...
* [[http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Casino-Royale-Mads-Mikkelsen-May-Play-Villain-Thor-2-31101.html Apparently]] Loki will be returning, but not as the villain. They're in talks with Mads Mikkelsen to play the villain, but who he'll play is kind of up in the air. The article dismisses the Executioner based on size, but after watching Valhalla Rising, I could definitely see him in the role. If they can make Idris Elba Heimdal, they can make Mads Mikkelsen the Executioner. That being said, Executioner's still kind of a pawn to Enchantress, and both are really a step down from Loki in every respect. Someone else threw out the idea he'd play Malekith, but really, that'd just be Loki's angle without the brother/father issues.
** The villain has been confirmed as Christopher Eccleston playing Malekith the Accursed. Perhaps this could set up Ragnarok and Surtur for the third movie, just as Malekith was the prelude in the comics.






















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* Jossed




[[WMG: The BigBad of ''Thor 2'' will be Surtur.]]
They wouldn't miss the chance of using one of the best (as well as the best-known) story arcs from the comic book, would they? Also, since the movie version of Loki is an AntiVillain seeking his father's approval, the Surtur War will give him a chance to redeem himself. (In the comic book Loki also fought Surtur, although for more selfish reasons.)
* If this happens, and they use the "For Asgard/Midgard/myself!" lines, the theaters will explode from awesome.
* Does this mean Beta Ray Bill will show up?

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\n[[WMG: The BigBad of ''Thor 2'' will be Surtur.]]\nThey wouldn't miss the chance of using one of the best (as well as the best-known) story arcs from the comic book, would they? Also, since the movie version of Loki is an AntiVillain seeking his father's approval, the Surtur War will give * Jossed, Odin sends him a chance to redeem himself. (In the comic book Loki also fought Surtur, although for more selfish reasons.)
* If this happens, and they use the "For Asgard/Midgard/myself!" lines, the theaters will explode from awesome.
* Does this mean Beta Ray Bill will show up?
there via “dark energy“.




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* Thanks to ‘‘Series/{{Inhumans}}’’, Lockjaw is now part of the MCU.







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* Jossed


















[[WMG: Thor 2 will have a romantic subplot...]]
Focusing on the Sif-Thor-Jane [[TriangRelations love triangle]] (type 1 or 10, depending on whether you interpret Thor and Jane being friends or an item). Thor and Jane are definitely set up in the first film, while Sif is very much attracted to Thor (and he flirts with her) along with being his wife in [[Myth/NorseMythology the original myths]].



[[WMG: The Enchantress will break Loki out of prison in ''Thor 2''.]]
Yup.



[[WMG: ''Thor 2'' leads into ''Captain America 2'']]
Thanos will recruit the Red Skull, who has been imprisoned in Odin's trophy room following ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger'', to steal the Infinity Gauntlet. He will then send Red Skull back to Midgard to serve as his herald, thus setting the plot for ''Captain America 2''.



[[WMG: The villains of ''Thor 2'' will be Hela (casting unknown) and her Black Elf father (formerly Mads Mikkelsen, now unknown), and will provide a mirror of Loki's issues with Odin.]]
As far as I know, all we know about the villain is that he's supposedly ''not'' Thanos. Mads Mikkelsen would be passable as a svartalfr, if the makeup toned him down instead of emphasizing him like the Jotun. As a person raised on Jotunheim who seems suspiciously human-like, pale of skin and raven of hair, she could easily parallel Loki, born of Jotun and taken by the Aeis. Considering the reputation the svartalfar have for being magical craftsmen akin to (or kin of) the Dwarves, it's possible that they will be brought in to fix the Bifrost or [[MythologyGag contain Loki]] and then (under the guidance of the Jotun-raised [Princess?] Hela) attempt a power grab.

[[WMG: ''Thor 2'' will involve Thor, Sif, and the Warriors Three traveling to other realms to face a threat. Since the Bifrost is still damaged, they will be forced to [[ConsultingAConvictedKiller use Loki as a guide]].]]



[[WMG: Loki will spend the majority of his time in Thor 2: The Dark World banished to the Isle of Silence.]]
That is, until [[spoiler: Thanos]] comes looking for him...
* Seems to be Jossed - [[spoiler: Loki's certainly locked up somewhere, but it looks like Thor went to get him first.]]



[[WMG: Thor 2 will open Jane opening a wormhole.]]
She will manage to end up in Asgard, but is found by two guards who do not recognize her as Thor's Midgardian love, but assume she is an enemy, chain her up, and bring her to the king. . .who is Thor.

[[WMG: We will see some bilge snipe in Thor 2.]]
Or at least, a glimpse of one.

[[WMG: The Casket will be the centerpiece of Thor 2.]]
Of the many weapons Loki uses in The Avengers, among them is ''not'' the casket, which we know he has with him. I'm guessing that he saw that his defeat was possible, so he left the casket on Earth as a way to either attract the Jotun to attack Midgard or as a form of bomb. The Casket will activate at a predetermined time, thus endangering the world since no mortal could approach it.

[[WMG: The fact that Loki is a frost giant will prove beneficial during Thor 2]]
Either [[spoiler: Malekith]] is hiding in an obscenely cold place, or [[spoiler: Malekith]] refuses to work with either humans or Asgardians, so Thor and Odin have to send Loki to talk to Malekith. Loki has mixed feelings on the whole thing. On the one hand, he's being used. On the other, they do need him...

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Coulson]] and Loki will share a scene with eachother when they are saving the world.]]

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[[WMG: Thor 2 will open Jane opening a wormhole.]]
She will manage to end up in Asgard, but is found by two guards who do not recognize her as Thor's Midgardian love, but assume she is an enemy, chain her up, and bring her to the king. . .who is Thor.

[[WMG: We will see some bilge snipe in Thor 2.]]
Or at least, a glimpse of one.

[[WMG: The Casket will be the centerpiece of Thor 2.]]
Of the many weapons Loki uses in The Avengers, among them is ''not'' the casket, which we know he has with him. I'm guessing that he saw that his defeat was possible, so he left the casket on Earth as a way to either attract the Jotun to attack Midgard or as a form of bomb. The Casket will activate at a predetermined time, thus endangering the world since no mortal could approach it.

[[WMG: The fact that Loki is a frost giant will prove beneficial during Thor 2]]
Either [[spoiler: Malekith]] is hiding in an obscenely cold place, or [[spoiler: Malekith]] refuses to work with either humans or Asgardians, so Thor and Odin have to send Loki to talk to Malekith. Loki has mixed feelings on the whole thing. On the one hand, he's being used. On the other, they do need him...

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Coulson]] and Loki will share a scene with eachother each other when they are saving the world.]]



[[WMG: [[spoiler: Malekith]] will visit Loki in his cell]]
[[spoiler: Malekith]] will offer things to Loki for either help or information. Loki turns him down. Expect this and the scene where Loki passes the information onto Thor to be his only two scenes.

[[WMG: Volstagg will be noticably heavier in the next movie.]]
Possibly as a result of being introduced to "junk food" on Midgard.



** Because before then there was no requirement to wield it. This could still be conceivably true, if Odin has done so much IDidWhatIHadTo that he's not worthy of being called a hero.

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** Because before then there was no requirement to wield it. This could still be conceivably true, if Odin has done so much IDidWhatIHadTo IDidWhatIHadToDo that he's not worthy of being called a hero.













Like Hogun, he comes from another world and simply has been living in Asgard for centuries. Certainly explains why he seems to be the only black person there.

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\nLike Hogun, he comes from another world and simply has been living in Asgard for centuries. Certainly explains why he seems to be the only black person there.
* Very likely jossed; besides, there are quite a few black Asgardian background characters in all three ''Thor'' movies, even before the introduction of Valkyrie.

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24th Jan '18 9:10:42 AM Hjortron18
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Another subset of people, who, like the Time Lords developed a different sort of [[AppliedPhlebotinium mega powerful technology]] except it traverses space instead of time.

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Another subset of people, who, like the Time Lords developed a different sort of [[AppliedPhlebotinium [[AppliedPhlebotinum mega powerful technology]] except it traverses space instead of time.
29th Apr '17 11:45:51 PM MadAnthony94
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** Just because they remember stories doesn't mean they'll change them. You can't just ''change'' a good story.




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** Technically it's not impossible that he lives among the Vanir but is originally an Earthly warrior who ascended to Valhalla as described by Norse mythology.
5th Mar '17 7:02:27 PM nombretomado
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What with Creator/{{Disney}} having bought {{Marvel}} and all. Think about it: they both have long blonde hair, they both wear green, they're both described as being incredible beautiful, and they both do not react well to rejection. I can't unsee it!

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What with Creator/{{Disney}} having bought {{Marvel}} {{Creator/Marvel}} and all. Think about it: they both have long blonde hair, they both wear green, they're both described as being incredible beautiful, and they both do not react well to rejection. I can't unsee it!
13th Nov '16 9:58:04 AM nombretomado
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[[WMG: [[{{Enchanted}} Andalasia]] is another one of the worlds on Yggdrasil.]]

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[[WMG: [[{{Enchanted}} [[Film/{{Enchanted}} Andalasia]] is another one of the worlds on Yggdrasil.]]
28th Aug '16 3:15:39 AM erforce
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* Or like calling MorganFreeman "Red" [[TheShawshankRedemption because he's Irish.]]

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* Or like calling MorganFreeman Creator/MorganFreeman "Red" [[TheShawshankRedemption [[Film/TheShawshankRedemption because he's Irish.]]
24th Aug '16 7:37:05 AM Zark
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It's not about Asgard having no female warriors (the old Norse women were quite capable, and evidence suggests they would go into battle alongside men fairly often). Rather, it's about Sif become ''so awesome'' of a warrior that she's part of Thor's elite hit squad. Asgardian women can certainly kick ass (witness Frigga in Thor: The Dark World), but any warrior who wants to join Thor's merry band has to be the absolute top-shelf of badassery. Asgardians scoffed at Sif for wanting to be that caliber of warrior, not just for wanting to be a warrior in general. As they might scoff at any male who said "I'm going to join Thor and Warriors Two when I grow up!" by saying "Well, you'll have to be able to take on a dozen Einherjar signle-handed, boy."

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It's not about Asgard having no female warriors (the old Norse women were quite capable, and evidence suggests they would go into battle alongside men fairly often). Rather, it's about Sif become ''so awesome'' of a warrior that she's part of Thor's elite hit squad. Asgardian women can certainly kick ass (witness Frigga in Thor: The Dark World), but any warrior who wants to join Thor's merry band has to be the absolute top-shelf of badassery. Asgardians scoffed at Sif for wanting to be that caliber of warrior, not just for wanting to be a warrior in general. As they might scoff at any male who said "I'm going to join Thor and Warriors Two when I grow up!" by saying "Well, you'll have to be able to take on a dozen Einherjar signle-handed, boy.""


[[WMG: Heimdall isn't a native Asgardian.]]

Like Hogun, he comes from another world and simply has been living in Asgard for centuries. Certainly explains why he seems to be the only black person there.
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