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* Or a mental power. There would be little to no indication of that.

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* Or a mental power. There would be little to no indication of that.that.

[[WMG: Prof's weakness is [[spoiler: his own powers.]]]]
[[spoiler: Judging from the Fridge Brilliance page and the end of Firefight with Megan trapping him in his own forcefields, Prof seems to be afraid of his own powers. He also chastises David for forcing him to use his powers and had been restraining himself for presumably years. Despite being an Epic himself, he also doesn't seem to believe in the redemption of other Epics and thinks all powers corrupt without anything to stop them, giving off a rather negative view which can be interpreted as fearful.]]
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* Most epics apparently discover their powers and learn how to use them during the Rending. [[spoiler: David unwittingly made himself immune to the Rending about two minutes prior to his confrontation with Calamity.]]
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* He got gifted powers though after that chat. Gifters can't give powers to other Epics which makes this a little more unlikely.

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* He got gifted powers though after that chat. Gifters can't give powers to other Epics which makes this a little more unlikely.unlikely.
* Or a mental power. There would be little to no indication of that.
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This is pretty reasonable, especially given that, just like Scion, Calamity showed up at the same time as powers began appearing, the superpowers have a build-in drive for conflict, and when [[spoiler: Calamity attempts to force a shard into David]] it/he uses similar [IDEA] communication as Scion [[spoiler: and Eden]] use in [[TraumaticSuperPowerAwakening the Trigger vision]].

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* This is pretty reasonable, especially given that, just like Scion, Calamity showed up at the same time as powers began appearing, the superpowers have a build-in drive for conflict, and when [[spoiler: Calamity attempts to force a shard into David]] it/he uses similar [IDEA] communication as Scion [[spoiler: and Eden]] use in [[TraumaticSuperPowerAwakening the Trigger vision]].
* Fireflight's actual power, revealed to be [[spoiler: bringing images and physical parts of alternate realities into her own, and pushing parts of reality into other alternate realities]] is entirely in line with how ''{{Literature/Worm}}'' powers depend on dimensional shenanigans, and its description is surprisingly similar to (in ''Worm'') Tattletale's explanation of how Shadow Stalker's power works.
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This is pretty reasonable, especially given that, just like Scion, Calamity showed up at the same time as powers began appearing, the superpowers have a build-in drive for conflict, and [[spoiler: Calamity attempts to force a shard into David]].

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This is pretty reasonable, especially given that, just like Scion, Calamity showed up at the same time as powers began appearing, the superpowers have a build-in drive for conflict, and when [[spoiler: Calamity attempts to force a shard into David]].
David]] it/he uses similar [IDEA] communication as Scion [[spoiler: and Eden]] use in [[TraumaticSuperPowerAwakening the Trigger vision]].
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This is pretty reasonable, especially given that, just like Scion, Calamity showed up at the same time as powers began appearing, the superpowers have a build-in drive for conflict, and [[spoiler: Calamity attempts to force a shard into David]].
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** Nope - an epic named Digzone gifted them.
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David might still have powers thanks to his contact with Calamity, he just hasn't used them. He might not even know he has them, and they'll manifest at an appropriately dramatic moment.

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David might still have powers thanks to his contact with Calamity, he just hasn't used them. He might not even know he has them, and they'll manifest at an appropriately dramatic moment.moment.
* He got gifted powers though after that chat. Gifters can't give powers to other Epics which makes this a little more unlikely.
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*This makes a great deal of sense. And that's also why he attacked David IMMEDIATELY on rising as a High Epic, because letting the person most likely to be able to kill him live is also an unacceptable risk.
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Before Calamity, he was upset because somebody won a prize in a contest he didn't even enter, and [[spoiler: his ex-girlfriend Tia]] says he never gambled. According to the pattern seen with [[spoiler: other Epics]], this means [[spoiler: Prof's powers fail him]] when he indulges in games of chance, or otherwise takes risks. This explains why the Reckoners are slow and methodical. It's because Prof is risk-averse. [[spoiler: His actions at the climaxes of both books don't count, ''Literature/{{Steelheart}}'' because [[GoodThingYouCanHeal he was never in any]] ''[[ItsAllAboutMe personal]]'' [[ItsAllAboutMe danger]] from Steelheart, and ''Literature/{{Firefight}}'' because, ironically, David convinced him it was a sure thing.]]

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Before Calamity, he was upset because somebody won a prize in a contest he didn't even enter, and [[spoiler: his ex-girlfriend Tia]] says he never gambled. According to the pattern seen with [[spoiler: other Epics]], this means [[spoiler: Prof's powers fail him]] when he indulges in games of chance, or otherwise takes risks. This explains why the Reckoners are slow and methodical. It's because Prof is risk-averse. [[spoiler: His actions at the climaxes of both books don't count, ''Literature/{{Steelheart}}'' because [[GoodThingYouCanHeal he was never in any]] ''[[ItsAllAboutMe personal]]'' [[ItsAllAboutMe danger]] from Steelheart, and ''Literature/{{Firefight}}'' because, ironically, David convinced him it was a sure thing.]]]]

[[WMG: Calamity ''didn't'' fail in making David an Epic.]]
David might still have powers thanks to his contact with Calamity, he just hasn't used them. He might not even know he has them, and they'll manifest at an appropriately dramatic moment.
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[[WMG: [[PersonOfMassDestruction High Epic]] [[spoiler: Phaedrus]]'s weakness is gambling.]]
Before Calamity, he was upset because somebody won a prize in a contest he didn't even enter, and [[spoiler: his ex-girlfriend Tia]] says he never gambled. According to the pattern seen with other Epics, this means [[spoiler: Prof]]'s powers fail him when he indulges in games of chance, or otherwise takes risks. [[spoiler: This explains why the Reckoners are slow methodical. It's because Prof is afraid of taking risks. His actions at the climaxes of both books don't count, ''Literature/{{Steelheart}}'' because [[GoodThingYouCanHeal he was never in any]] ''personal'' danger from Steelheart, and ''Literature/{{Firefight}}'' because, ironically, David convinced him it was a sure thing.]]

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[[WMG: [[PersonOfMassDestruction High Epic]] [[spoiler: Phaedrus]]'s weakness Prof is gambling.afraid of taking risks.]]
Before Calamity, he was upset because somebody won a prize in a contest he didn't even enter, and [[spoiler: his ex-girlfriend Tia]] says he never gambled. According to the pattern seen with [[spoiler: other Epics, Epics]], this means [[spoiler: Prof]]'s Prof's powers fail him him]] when he indulges in games of chance, or otherwise takes risks. [[spoiler: This explains why the Reckoners are slow and methodical. It's because Prof is afraid of taking risks. risk-averse. [[spoiler: His actions at the climaxes of both books don't count, ''Literature/{{Steelheart}}'' because [[GoodThingYouCanHeal he was never in any]] ''personal'' danger ''[[ItsAllAboutMe personal]]'' [[ItsAllAboutMe danger]] from Steelheart, and ''Literature/{{Firefight}}'' because, ironically, David convinced him it was a sure thing.]]

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* Confirmed as of {{Firefight}}.

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* Confirmed as of {{Firefight}}.
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We know that the key to overcoming the corruption is [[spoiler: the Epic's greatest fear, something from their past.]] So surely a person who actually ''knew'' [[spoiler: the person before they became an Epic]] would hold the key. Failing that, it's also possible that Tia [[spoiler: already knew Prof's weakness]] as a failsafe in case HeroicWillpower finally failed. Seems likely that reaching her before she can be killed will be a priority in Calamity.

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We know that the key to overcoming the corruption is [[spoiler: the Epic's greatest fear, something from their past.]] So surely a person who actually ''knew'' [[spoiler: the person before they became an Epic]] would hold the key. Failing that, it's also possible that Tia [[spoiler: already knew Prof's weakness]] as a failsafe in case HeroicWillpower finally failed. Seems likely that reaching her before she can be killed will be a priority in Calamity.Calamity.

[[WMG: [[PersonOfMassDestruction High Epic]] [[spoiler: Phaedrus]]'s weakness is gambling.]]
Before Calamity, he was upset because somebody won a prize in a contest he didn't even enter, and [[spoiler: his ex-girlfriend Tia]] says he never gambled. According to the pattern seen with other Epics, this means [[spoiler: Prof]]'s powers fail him when he indulges in games of chance, or otherwise takes risks. [[spoiler: This explains why the Reckoners are slow methodical. It's because Prof is afraid of taking risks. His actions at the climaxes of both books don't count, ''Literature/{{Steelheart}}'' because [[GoodThingYouCanHeal he was never in any]] ''personal'' danger from Steelheart, and ''Literature/{{Firefight}}'' because, ironically, David convinced him it was a sure thing.]]
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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Tia]] will be the key to stopping [[spoiler: Prof]]. ]]
Now that David knows the connection between [[spoiler: weaknesses, corruption and Epics' pasts]], who better to help than a person who actually knew the homicidal Epic before Calamity came? There's a reasonable chance too that [[spoiler: Tia]] knew that Epic's weakness already. It would make sense to have an emergency plan, in case sheer resolve alone couldn't stave off the madness. Here's betting that the first part of the book Calamity involves finding [[spoiler: her before Prof can kill her, and then setting up a trap to force him into confronting his fears. With Megan to warp reality, it's possible they could do it relatively easily.]] Assuming the newly homicidal Epic doesn't kill them first.

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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Tia]] Tia will be the key to stopping [[spoiler: Prof]]. ]]
Now We know that David knows the connection between key to overcoming the corruption is [[spoiler: weaknesses, corruption and Epics' pasts]], who better to help than the Epic's greatest fear, something from their past.]] So surely a person who actually knew the homicidal Epic before Calamity came? There's a reasonable chance too that ''knew'' [[spoiler: Tia]] knew that Epic's weakness already. It the person before they became an Epic]] would make sense to have an emergency plan, in case sheer resolve alone couldn't stave off hold the madness. Here's betting key. Failing that, it's also possible that the first part of the book Calamity involves finding Tia [[spoiler: already knew Prof's weakness]] as a failsafe in case HeroicWillpower finally failed. Seems likely that reaching her before Prof she can kill her, and then setting up be killed will be a trap to force him into confronting his fears. With Megan to warp reality, it's possible they could do it relatively easily.]] Assuming the newly homicidal Epic doesn't kill them first.priority in Calamity.
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[[WMG: [[spoiler Tia]] will be the key to stopping [[Prof]]. ]]

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[[WMG: [[spoiler [[spoiler: Tia]] will be the key to stopping [[Prof]].[[spoiler: Prof]]. ]]
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In ''{{Literature/Worm}}'', Scion is a glowing, divine-looking, [[spoiler:power-granting alien]]. Calamity comes from the same place, but is employing a different strategy with his power investment.

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In ''{{Literature/Worm}}'', Scion is a glowing, divine-looking, [[spoiler:power-granting alien]]. Calamity comes from the same place, but is employing a different strategy with his power investment.investment.

[[WMG: [[spoiler Tia]] will be the key to stopping [[Prof]]. ]]
Now that David knows the connection between [[spoiler: weaknesses, corruption and Epics' pasts]], who better to help than a person who actually knew the homicidal Epic before Calamity came? There's a reasonable chance too that [[spoiler: Tia]] knew that Epic's weakness already. It would make sense to have an emergency plan, in case sheer resolve alone couldn't stave off the madness. Here's betting that the first part of the book Calamity involves finding [[spoiler: her before Prof can kill her, and then setting up a trap to force him into confronting his fears. With Megan to warp reality, it's possible they could do it relatively easily.]] Assuming the newly homicidal Epic doesn't kill them first.
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[[WMG: Megan will begin using her powers to cure epics, and inoculating people against calamities power]]
Since we now know that epics can be cured of Calamity's corruption by facing their worst fears, and that ordinary humans can be made immune to epic transformation through the same method, a powerful illusionist is exactly what they need now. I can even see it becoming a cultural tradition in the long term if Calamity isn't destroyed, a right of passage where everyone has to face a simulation their worst fear.
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[[WMG: Calamity and the Epic Powers are based on the power of fear]]
It certainly works symbolically. Fear grants people extraordinary strength and the ability to do the otherwise impossible, but also makes people selfish and violent. But, if you overcome the selfishness through bravery, it can let you accomplish great things and can bring out the best in people. This is pretty much exactly how epic powers work, given the revelations in Firefight. It's possible that this is literally true as well, with Calamity being some sort of embodiment of the transformative power of fear.
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There's an obvious hurdle in emulating their powers, which is that they're explicitly physically impossible. Steelheart's most advanced equipment [[spoiler: and the Reckoners' gear]] is based off [[SuperEmpowering Transference Epics]]. The arms dealer who provides highly advanced equipment takes payment in the preserved, still-living cells of Epics. This is supposedly for research purposes, but quite possibly has the real purpose of installing cloned cells into the technology, actually using their powers directly instead of merely imitating them. The gun he sells to the Reckoners may actually be an exception; it's a coilgun (so we know how to make it today, in theory) that shoots highly energized projectiles and has a higher power draw than Newcago. If that were representative of the difficultly of replicating Epic powers scientifically, it would not be a thriving research field.

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There's an obvious hurdle in emulating their powers, which is that they're explicitly physically impossible. Steelheart's most advanced equipment [[spoiler: and the Reckoners' gear]] is based off [[SuperEmpowering Transference Epics]]. The arms dealer who provides highly advanced equipment takes payment in the preserved, still-living cells of Epics. This is supposedly for research purposes, but quite possibly has the real purpose of installing cloned cells into the technology, actually using their powers directly instead of merely imitating them. The gun he sells to the Reckoners may actually be an exception; it's a coilgun (so we know how to make it today, in theory) that shoots highly energized projectiles and has a higher power draw than Newcago. If that were representative of the difficultly difficulty of replicating Epic powers scientifically, it would not be a thriving research field.
* Confirmed as of {{Firefight}}.
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[[WMG: Calamity is the same type of being as Scion from ''Worm'']].
In [[Literature/Worm Worm]], Scion is a glowing, divine-looking, [[spoiler:power-granting alien]]. Calamity comes from the same place, but is employing a different strategy with his power investment.

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[[WMG: Calamity is the same type of being as Scion from ''Worm'']].
''Worm''.]]
In [[Literature/Worm Worm]], ''{{Literature/Worm}}'', Scion is a glowing, divine-looking, [[spoiler:power-granting alien]]. Calamity comes from the same place, but is employing a different strategy with his power investment.

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[[WMG: All Epics are psycopaths because [[spoiler: Calamity is a psychopath]].]]

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[[WMG: All Epics are psycopaths psychopaths because [[spoiler: Calamity is a psychopath]].]]



At the end of [[Literature/{{Firefight}}]], Obliteration [[spoiler:thanks David]] for giving him the answer [[spoiler:to his nightmares]] and disappears from the book. We also know that [[spoiler:Megan no longer suffers madness]] from using the power of an Epic, so it is entirely possible Obliteration went off to [[spoiler:conquer his fear and regain his Humanity]]. meaning he will likely show up in ''Calamity''.

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At the end of [[Literature/{{Firefight}}]], Obliteration [[spoiler:thanks David]] for giving him the answer [[spoiler:to his nightmares]] and disappears from the book. We also know that [[spoiler:Megan no longer suffers madness]] from using the power of an Epic, so it is entirely possible Obliteration went off to [[spoiler:conquer his fear and regain his Humanity]]. meaning he will likely show up in ''Calamity''.''Calamity''.

[[WMG: Calamity is the same type of being as Scion from ''Worm'']].
In [[Literature/Worm Worm]], Scion is a glowing, divine-looking, [[spoiler:power-granting alien]]. Calamity comes from the same place, but is employing a different strategy with his power investment.
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[[WMG: Obliteration will undergo a HeelFaceTurn]]
At the end of [[Literature/{{Firefight}}]], Obliteration [[spoiler:thanks David]] for giving him the answer [[spoiler:to his nightmares]] and disappears from the book. We also know that [[spoiler:Megan no longer suffers madness]] from using the power of an Epic, so it is entirely possible Obliteration went off to [[spoiler:conquer his fear and regain his Humanity]]. meaning he will likely show up in ''Calamity''.
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[[WMG: Calamity really is [[spoiler: an Angel]], and the Epics are the true "Reckoners" the series is named for]]
As Obliteration mentioned in his monologue towards David, he considers that the Four Horseman actually are not "individuals" but metaphorical. One could easily pass it off as the ravings of a psychopath (given Obliteration's track record), but Regalia not only called Calamity [[spoiler:an Epic]], but described Calamity as [[spoiler:the Destroying Angel]]. In other words, since Calamity [[spoiler: is the one who creates the Epics]], it and the Epics are collectively the "Reckoners" of Humanity with the coming of the Apocalypse.
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[[WMG: The spyril was broken before the final battle of Firefight.]]
When Megan faced her fear, she was free from the sociopathy, but still has her powers. During the final battle, David could be using Waterlog's powers, gained minus the sociopathy, and thinking he's using the spyril.
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With TheReveal in ''Literature/{{Firefight}}'' that [[spoiler: Calamity is itself an Epic, and that all other Epics receive a shred of his power]], it's at least possible that the madness that comes with the powers is [[spoiler: a reflection of Calamity's own mind]].

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With TheReveal in ''Literature/{{Firefight}}'' that [[spoiler: Calamity is itself an Epic, and that all other Epics receive a shred of his power]], it's at least possible that the madness that comes with the powers is [[spoiler: a reflection of Calamity's own mind]].mind]].

[[WMG: The spyril was broken before the final battle of Firefight.]]
When Megan faced her fear, she was free from the sociopathy, but still has her powers. During the final battle, David could be using Waterlog's powers, gained minus the sociopathy, and thinking he's using the spyril.
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For someone that makes his life killing Epics, he's awfully [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial insistent]] that there is no pattern. [[spoiler: And he himself is an Epic, after all.]]

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For someone that makes his life killing Epics, he's awfully [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial insistent]] that there is no pattern. [[spoiler: And he himself is an Epic, after all.]]]]

[[WMG: All Epics are psycopaths because [[spoiler: Calamity is a psychopath]].]]
With TheReveal in ''Literature/{{Firefight}}'' that [[spoiler: Calamity is itself an Epic, and that all other Epics receive a shred of his power]], it's at least possible that the madness that comes with the powers is [[spoiler: a reflection of Calamity's own mind]].
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It's mentioned that the Diggers were gifted powers similar to the Tensor devices to dig underground. [[spoiler: In the end, the Tensors are revealed to be MagicFeather s and Prof is really a Gifter Epic.]] Why he would do such a thing remains unclear.

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It's mentioned that the Diggers were gifted powers similar to the Tensor devices to dig underground. [[spoiler: In the end, the Tensors are revealed to be MagicFeather s and Prof is really a Gifter Epic.]] Why he would do such a thing remains unclear.unclear.

[[WMG: Prof is afraid of the 'pattern' in Epic weaknesses because it means someone[[spoiler: might find his]].]]
For someone that makes his life killing Epics, he's awfully [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial insistent]] that there is no pattern. [[spoiler: And he himself is an Epic, after all.]]
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[[spoiler: That may be why he using his power so much. Using powers makes people more evil, and the manifestation of his powers might have made him lose control.]]

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[[spoiler: That may be why he hates using his power so much. Using powers makes people more evil, and the manifestation of his powers might have made him lose control.]]
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It's mentioned that the Diggers were gifted powers similar to the Tensor devices to dig underground. {[spoiler: In the end, the Tensors are revealed to be MagicFeather s and Prof is really a Gifter Epic.]] Why he would do such a thing remains unclear.

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It's mentioned that the Diggers were gifted powers similar to the Tensor devices to dig underground. {[spoiler: [[spoiler: In the end, the Tensors are revealed to be MagicFeather s and Prof is really a Gifter Epic.]] Why he would do such a thing remains unclear.
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There's an obvious hurdle in emulating their powers, which is that they're explicitly physically impossible. Steelheart's most advanced equipment [[spoiler: and the Reckoners' gear]] is based off [[SuperEmpowering Transference Epics]]. The arms dealer who provides highly advanced equipment takes payment in the preserved, still-living cells of Epics. This is supposedly for research purposes, but quite possibly has the real purpose of installing cloned cells into the technology, actually using their powers directly instead of merely imitating them. The gun he sells to the Reckoners may actually be an exception; it's a coilgun (so we know how to make it today, in theory) that shoots highly energized projectiles and has a higher power draw than Newcago. If that were representative of the difficultly of replicating Epic powers scientifically, it would not be a thriving research field.

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There's an obvious hurdle in emulating their powers, which is that they're explicitly physically impossible. Steelheart's most advanced equipment [[spoiler: and the Reckoners' gear]] is based off [[SuperEmpowering Transference Epics]]. The arms dealer who provides highly advanced equipment takes payment in the preserved, still-living cells of Epics. This is supposedly for research purposes, but quite possibly has the real purpose of installing cloned cells into the technology, actually using their powers directly instead of merely imitating them. The gun he sells to the Reckoners may actually be an exception; it's a coilgun (so we know how to make it today, in theory) that shoots highly energized projectiles and has a higher power draw than Newcago. If that were representative of the difficultly of replicating Epic powers scientifically, it would not be a thriving research field.field.

[[WMG: Prof killed his fifth grade class by accident after the Calamity]]
[[spoiler: That may be why he using his power so much. Using powers makes people more evil, and the manifestation of his powers might have made him lose control.]]

[[WMG: Prof made the Diggers]]
It's mentioned that the Diggers were gifted powers similar to the Tensor devices to dig underground. {[spoiler: In the end, the Tensors are revealed to be MagicFeather s and Prof is really a Gifter Epic.]] Why he would do such a thing remains unclear.
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There's an obvious hurdle in emulating their powers, which is that they're explicitly physically impossible. Steelheart's most advanced equipment [[spoiler: and the Reckoners' gear]] is based off [[SuperEmpowering Transference Epics]]. The arms dealer who provides highly advanced equipment takes payment in the preserved, still-living cells of Epics. This is supposedly for research purposes, but quite possibly has the real purpose of installing cloned cells into the technology, actually using their powers directly instead of merely imitating them. The gun he sells to the Reckoners may actually be an exception; it's a coilgun (so we know how to make it today, in theory) that shoots highly energized projectiles and has a higher power draw than Newcago. If that were representative of the difficultly of replicating Epic powers scientifically, it would not be a thriving research field.

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