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* Because: why not?

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* Because: why not?not?

[[WMG: The Phantom is dying.]]
A lot of Erik's actions in the original musical can make a lot more sense if you consider the possibility that he's terminally ill. Everything he does is essentially one last "fuck you" to the world that [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds showed him nothing but cruelty; as such he is filled with nothing but rage and hate.]] Christine, by virtue of being the only person who showed him any kindness ever, [[LoveRedeems helps to redeem him at the end]], thus freeing his soul from that rage and [[TearJerker allowing him to die without regret and ascend to heaven afterwards]] (symbolized by his mask remaining, then being lifted up as a light from over the stage shines on it).
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I don't believe Lloyd Webber has ever claimed any of the sort, but the two tunes certainly sound similar, with their loud, haunting pipe organs playing a tune that rises and falls. Before the musical came out and [[AdaptationDisplacement displaced all other versions of the story]], ''Toccata and Fugue'' was widely associated with the Phantom thanks to its appearance in [[Film/ThePhantomOfTheOpera1962 the 1962 Hammer movie]]. Thus, the tune would likely at least cross ALW's mind while he was writing his own version.

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I don't believe Lloyd Webber has ever claimed any of the sort, but the two tunes certainly sound similar, with their loud, haunting pipe organs playing a tune that rises and falls. Before the musical came out and [[AdaptationDisplacement displaced all other versions of the story]], ''Toccata and Fugue'' was widely associated with the Phantom thanks to its appearance in [[Film/ThePhantomOfTheOpera1962 the 1962 Hammer movie]]. Thus, the tune would likely at least cross ALW's mind while he was writing his own version.version.

[[WMG: Erik is a TimeLord]]
* Because: he goes by a "The" title
* Because: he possesses incredible genius and technological capabilities far beyond the time setting
* Because: they never find him at the end, therefore the chair was his entrance to his TARDIS.
* Because: (in the movie) [[spoiler: a very aged Raoul finds a fresh red rose on Christine's grave]] and since the Phantom was clearly older than the two of them, he's clearly ageless
* Because: why not?
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I don't believe Lloyd Webber has ever claimed any of the sort, but the two tunes certainly sound similar, with their loud, haunting pipe organs playing a tune that rises and falls. Before the musical came out and [[AdaptationDisplacement displaced all other versions of the story]], ''Toccata and Fugue'' was widely associated with the Phantom thanks to its appearance in the 1962 Hammer movie. Thus, the tune would likely at least cross ALW's mind while he was writing his own version.

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I don't believe Lloyd Webber has ever claimed any of the sort, but the two tunes certainly sound similar, with their loud, haunting pipe organs playing a tune that rises and falls. Before the musical came out and [[AdaptationDisplacement displaced all other versions of the story]], ''Toccata and Fugue'' was widely associated with the Phantom thanks to its appearance in [[Film/ThePhantomOfTheOpera1962 the 1962 Hammer movie.movie]]. Thus, the tune would likely at least cross ALW's mind while he was writing his own version.
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* He becomes attached to Christine because she reminded him of Catherine, whom he still loves. Hence his reactions when he sees Christine kiss Raoul.

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* He becomes attached to Christine because she reminded him of Catherine, whom he still loves. Hence his reactions when he sees Christine kiss Raoul.Raoul.

[[WMG: The famous Overture was inspired by Bach's ''Toccata and Fugue in D Minor''. ]]
I don't believe Lloyd Webber has ever claimed any of the sort, but the two tunes certainly sound similar, with their loud, haunting pipe organs playing a tune that rises and falls. Before the musical came out and [[AdaptationDisplacement displaced all other versions of the story]], ''Toccata and Fugue'' was widely associated with the Phantom thanks to its appearance in the 1962 Hammer movie. Thus, the tune would likely at least cross ALW's mind while he was writing his own version.
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He was one of the people who agreed to perform the Finale. To the Leading Player's surprise, he survived, but his face was burned in the process. When he left, one of the other performers (Madame Giry) agreed to keep an eye on him to make sure he's okay.

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He was one of the people who agreed to perform the Finale. To the Leading Player's surprise, he survived, but his face was burned in the process. When he left, one of the other performers (Madame Giry) agreed to keep an eye on him to make sure he's okay.okay.
* He becomes attached to Christine because she reminded him of Catherine, whom he still loves. Hence his reactions when he sees Christine kiss Raoul.
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[[WMG: Erik was an actor who played Theatre/Pippin.]]

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[[WMG: Erik was an actor who played Theatre/Pippin.{{Pippin}}.]]
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Working off of novel continuity here- he's born looking like a corpse (as traditional vampires did), he never knew his real father, and his childlike psychopathy is very much like Dracula's childlike psychopathy. Also, he manages to treat his prospective wife like total crap and have it romanticized, which seems par the course for [[{{Dracula}} most]] [[{{Twilight}} vampires]].

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Working off of novel continuity here- he's born looking like a corpse (as traditional vampires did), he never knew his real father, and his childlike psychopathy is very much like Dracula's childlike psychopathy. Also, he manages to treat his prospective wife like total crap and have it romanticized, which seems par the course for [[{{Dracula}} most]] [[{{Twilight}} vampires]].vampires]].

[[WMG: Erik was an actor who played Theatre/Pippin.]]
He was one of the people who agreed to perform the Finale. To the Leading Player's surprise, he survived, but his face was burned in the process. When he left, one of the other performers (Madame Giry) agreed to keep an eye on him to make sure he's okay.
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[[WMG: Since Webber stole the melody of the title song from Pink Floyd, they're collectively the Phantom. ]]
* Since Webber more or less lifted the melody for the title song from Pink Floyd's "Echoes", wouldn't that technically make David Gilmour the Phantom or something? Actually, several members of Pink Floyd combined could make the Phantom- Gilmour the musical genius, Waters the self-aggrandizing jerk, Wright the keyboard player, and Syd Barrett the reclusive madman? Now we just need to figure out what Nick Mason is.
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** Sander Cohen is canonically gay.
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** I thought he just discovered that he was gay that very second.

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** I thought he just discovered that he was gay that very second.second.

[[WMG: Erik is a Dhampyr]]
Working off of novel continuity here- he's born looking like a corpse (as traditional vampires did), he never knew his real father, and his childlike psychopathy is very much like Dracula's childlike psychopathy. Also, he manages to treat his prospective wife like total crap and have it romanticized, which seems par the course for [[{{Dracula}} most]] [[{{Twilight}} vampires]].
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** This is my official Head Canon now!! Thank you!! - Alyssa Macki
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[[WMG: The Phantom turns up years later as [[{{Bioshock}} Sander Cohen]]]]

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[[WMG: The Phantom turns up years later as [[{{Bioshock}} [[VideoGame/BioShock1 Sander Cohen]]]]
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**I always thought that, barring the lack of the nose, Meg's physical description in the book vaguely is reminiscent of Erik's. Not that I take those thoughts seriously...
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*** Just because he was her husband doesn't mean he was Meg's father...
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In support of this WMG, the fact that Lloyd Webber and Sarah Brightman (who originated the role of Christine) were married at the time.
** The role was specifically written for Brightman, after all. It wouldn't be surprising if the Phantom was supposed to represent Webber, especially when you know how the two met each other.

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** In support of this WMG, the fact that Lloyd Webber and Sarah Brightman (who originated the role of Christine) were married at the time.
** *** The role was specifically written for Brightman, after all. It wouldn't be surprising if the Phantom was supposed to represent Webber, especially when you know how the two met each other.
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** The role was specifically written for Brightman, after all. It wouldn't be surprising if the Phantom was supposed to represent Webber, especially when you know how the two met each other.
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** Nope, Madame Giry says her husband's name was Jules, and he died years ago...
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* So he gives her the ultimatum... Say you love me, I'll let Raoul go and we live together forever. Say you love Raoul, and I'll kill him. She decides to come up and the Phantom. He stops, and lets them both go. Why? Christine's a terrible kisser, and the Phantom is just really shallow.

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* So he gives her the ultimatum... Say you love me, I'll let Raoul go and we live together forever. Say you love Raoul, and I'll kill him. She decides to come up and the Phantom. He stops, and lets them both go. Why? Christine's a terrible kisser, and the Phantom is just really shallow.shallow.
** I thought he just discovered that he was gay that very second.
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[[WMG: The original novel was the {{narrator}}'s attempt to make amends to the Phantom, whom he canonically saw as a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds.]]

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[[WMG: The original novel was the {{narrator}}'s attempt GoneHorriblyRight to make amends to the Phantom, whom he canonically saw as a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds.]]
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* So, Forsythe could have been commissioned to write a serious sequel but intentionally secretly made it a StealthParody without ALW catching on. This opens theories of Forsythe as a Christine/Raoul shipper (showing the absurdities of the pro-bad boy side of Gothic fandoms) and of ALW as a Christine/Erik shipper.
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* Frederick Forsythe, the author of the source book, claimed that he wrote Phantom of Manhattan as a TakeThat to gothic literature, so the music could be an adaptation of a parody. However, as ALW commissioned Forsythe to write that book for future sequel purposes, it would be in pretty bad taste to screw over a commissioner like that.
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Since the Phantom was separated from the woman he loved, the {{narrator}} intentionally portrayed him in a light that made him sympathetic and irresistable to legions of fangirls the world over for decades (which will no doubt turn to centuries).

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Since the Phantom was separated from the woman he loved, the {{narrator}} intentionally portrayed him in a light that made him sympathetic and irresistable to legions of fangirls the world over for decades (which will no doubt turn to centuries).centuries).

[[WMG: The real reason the Phantom let Christine go...]]
* So he gives her the ultimatum... Say you love me, I'll let Raoul go and we live together forever. Say you love Raoul, and I'll kill him. She decides to come up and the Phantom. He stops, and lets them both go. Why? Christine's a terrible kisser, and the Phantom is just really shallow.
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** Seconded - and I thought I was the only one who ended up {{shipping}} [[FanPreferredCouple the Phantom with Madame Giry]] before the novel was over.
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Since the Phantom was separated from the woman he loved, the {{narrator}} intentionally portrayed him in a light that made him sympathetic and irresistable to legions of fangirls the world over for centuries.

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Since the Phantom was separated from the woman he loved, the {{narrator}} intentionally portrayed him in a light that made him sympathetic and irresistable to legions of fangirls the world over for centuries.decades (which will no doubt turn to centuries).
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Several aspects of the musical--the shaky chronology, the Phantom and Christine drifting into MarySue territory, the extraordinary CharacterDerailment ([[RonTheDeathEater especially for]] [[DieForOurShip Raoul]]), [[spoiler: the Phantom and Christine conceiving a child under extremely improbable circumstances]], Meg being attracted to the Phantom, enormous amounts of {{Wangst}} all around--appear so often in ''Phantom'' fanfiction as to be cliches. Since there's no way a bunch of renowned, respected artists would present, in all seriousness, a story that could have been written by a fifteen-year-old under the alias of "The Future Mrs. Gerard Butler," they ''must'' have intended it as a satire....''right''?

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Several aspects of the musical--the shaky chronology, the Phantom and Christine drifting into MarySue territory, the extraordinary CharacterDerailment ([[RonTheDeathEater especially for]] [[DieForOurShip Raoul]]), [[spoiler: the Phantom and Christine conceiving a child under extremely improbable circumstances]], Meg being attracted to the Phantom, enormous amounts of {{Wangst}} all around--appear so often in ''Phantom'' fanfiction as to be cliches. Since there's no way a bunch of renowned, respected artists would present, in all seriousness, a story that could have been written by a fifteen-year-old under the alias of "The Future Mrs. Gerard Butler," they ''must'' have intended it as a satire....''right''?''right''?

[[WMG: The original novel was the {{narrator}}'s attempt to make amends to the Phantom, whom he canonically saw as a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds.]]
Since the Phantom was separated from the woman he loved, the {{narrator}} intentionally portrayed him in a light that made him sympathetic and irresistable to legions of fangirls the world over for centuries.
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* No doubt both of them have deformed appearances and wear a mask (though Cohen's is a rabbit mask), and both of them are even [[MadArtist mad artists]]. Could perhaps be that Sander Cohen's past (as officially mentioned) was a fabrication if such were the case.

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* No doubt both of them have deformed appearances and wear a mask (though Cohen's is a rabbit mask), and both of them are even [[MadArtist mad artists]]. Could perhaps be that Sander Cohen's past (as officially mentioned) was a fabrication if such were the case.case.
[[WMG: ''Love Never Dies'' is a StealthParody of bad fanfiction.]]
Several aspects of the musical--the shaky chronology, the Phantom and Christine drifting into MarySue territory, the extraordinary CharacterDerailment ([[RonTheDeathEater especially for]] [[DieForOurShip Raoul]]), [[spoiler: the Phantom and Christine conceiving a child under extremely improbable circumstances]], Meg being attracted to the Phantom, enormous amounts of {{Wangst}} all around--appear so often in ''Phantom'' fanfiction as to be cliches. Since there's no way a bunch of renowned, respected artists would present, in all seriousness, a story that could have been written by a fifteen-year-old under the alias of "The Future Mrs. Gerard Butler," they ''must'' have intended it as a satire....''right''?
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In support of this WMG, the fact that Lloyd Webber and Sarah Brightman (who originated the role of Christine) were married at the time.

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In support of this WMG, the fact that Lloyd Webber and Sarah Brightman (who originated the role of Christine) were married at the time.time.

[[WMG: The Phantom turns up years later as [[{{Bioshock}} Sander Cohen]]]]
* No doubt both of them have deformed appearances and wear a mask (though Cohen's is a rabbit mask), and both of them are even [[MadArtist mad artists]]. Could perhaps be that Sander Cohen's past (as officially mentioned) was a fabrication if such were the case.
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In support of this WMG, the fact that Lloyd Webber and Sarah Brightman (who originated the role of Christine) were married at the time.
Also, "Theme and Variation" sounds like something the Phantom would program that four-armed techno gorilla to play on the organ in "Love Never Dies."

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In support of this WMG, the fact that Lloyd Webber and Sarah Brightman (who originated the role of Christine) were married at the time.
* Also, "Theme and Variation" sounds like something the Phantom would program that four-armed techno gorilla to play on the organ in "Love Never Dies.""
In support of this WMG, the fact that Lloyd Webber and Sarah Brightman (who originated the role of Christine) were married at the time.
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Specifically, he's a NobleDemon who's honestly trying to be an angel -- an Angel of Music! But he [[LoveMakesYouEvil fell back to his evil tendencies]] when he became [[LoveMakesYouCrazy desperate for Christine.]] But when he received just a bit of her compassion, just a bit of her love at the end, he felt restored, enough to be [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy willing to let her and Raoul go.]] He even appears to vanish at the end, [[FridgeBrilliance like a ghost finally put at peace!]]

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Specifically, he's a NobleDemon who's honestly trying to be an angel -- an Angel of Music! But he [[LoveMakesYouEvil fell back to his evil tendencies]] when he became [[LoveMakesYouCrazy desperate for Christine.]] But when he received just a bit of her compassion, just a bit of her love at the end, he felt restored, enough to be [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy willing to let her and Raoul go.]] He even appears to vanish at the end, [[FridgeBrilliance like a ghost finally put at peace!]]peace!]]
[[WMG: Andrew Lloyd Webber is either the Phantom himself or Gustave.]]
Just think about it for a moment. The Phantom (and, it is implied, Gustave) is a musical genius and has a passion for darkness. Andrew Lloyd Webber is most definately a musical genius. As for the darkness:
*"Macavity"
*"Damned For All Time", as well as the whole second act of JC Superstar
*"Sunset Boulevard"
*The beginning of "Evita", not to mention that Peron's speeches sound like the Phantom ranting to this troper.
Also, "Theme and Variation" sounds like something the Phantom would program that four-armed techno gorilla to play on the organ in "Love Never Dies."

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