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11th Jul '17 7:33:51 PM DrNoPuma
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[[WMG:Christmas magic is what saved Jack's life.]]
The monsters' reaction to Jack's sleigh getting shot down indicates that, despite being a skeleton, he ''should'' have died. Maybe some outside force from Christmas Town (or maybe the night itself was magical) stepped in to keep the explosion and fall from killing Jack, so he could save Santa.
7th Jun '17 12:09:35 PM DrNoPuma
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* [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming D'awwwwwww!]]




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* A skeleton alien, huh? A [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot combination of monsters]] like that ''would'' be a great choice for the king of Halloween.




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* That certainly makes more sense than Selick's idea that the hill is mechanical (See WhatCouldHaveBeen on the Trivia page).



jack was possibly a violent gangster but one that looked out for his community, like the black panther movement in the 60's
and watches out for Halloween town, well Oogie uses terror to control the peopleof halloween

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jack Jack was possibly a violent gangster gangster, but one that looked out for his community, like community (like the black panther Black Panther movement in the 60's
60's)
and watches out for Halloween town, well Town, while Oogie uses terror to control the peopleof halloween
people of Halloween.
* Considering that TheCasino is often associated with gangsters, this could be true on Oogie's part.



[[WMG: Halloween Town is ''Halloweentown.'']]

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[[WMG: Halloween Town is ''Halloweentown.''Film/{{Halloweentown}}.'']]
28th May '17 3:49:28 PM DrNoPuma
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[[WMG:Oogie Boogie isn't really the bogeyman.]]
As noted on the Characters page, he is a a self described boogieman", but doesn't show many typical traits of the bogeyman, such as [[ThingsThatGoBumpInTheNight haunting children's bedrooms]] - at least, not on screen. Maybe he's a completely different monster who suffers from AGodAmI. Besides, Oogie looks very different from other depictions of the bogeyman - like the Characters page says, his appearance is more akin to a typical BedsheetGhost.

[[WMG:The movie has a subtle "HumansAreTheRealMonsters" message.]]
As in Tim Burton's later movie ''WesternAnimation/CorpseBride'', nearly all of the monsters are [[DarkIsNotEvil fun-loving and genial despite their scary looks]], while the humans are more selfish and dull, if not outright evil. Although Lock, Shock, and Barrel are AmbiguouslyHuman, they are perhaps the most humanlike residents of Halloween Town, and some of the cruelest. The humans in the "real world" are more justified examples, as they feel legitimately threatened by Jack's attempt at making Christmas, but perhaps they were too quick to panic. Most of the toys seemed like they genuinely wanted to play, but the humans didn't consider this at all, instead panicking, shooting down Jack's sleigh, and declaring Christmas to be RuinedForever.
26th May '17 9:39:23 AM DrNoPuma
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After Jack commands Lock, Shock, and Barrel to take the Easter Bunny back and get Santa Claus, we don't really find out whether they listened to him or not. But considering that they had every intention of handing Santa over to Oogie, it seems like they would do the same with the Easter Bunny. What happened next depends on where you fall on the SlidingScaleOfIdealismAndCynicism. If you want a happy ending, maybe the Easter Bunny was tougher than he looks, and he managed to fight off the trio and make his way back home. Alternatively, they took the EB to Oogie, who ''also'' got mad, commanded them to bring him Santa instead, and let the EB go. Unfortunately, it's also possible that Oogie was more than happy to accept the trio's offering, and he made some rabbit stew...

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After Jack commands Lock, Shock, and Barrel to take the Easter Bunny back and get Santa Claus, we don't really find out whether they listened to him or not. But considering that they had every intention of handing Santa over to Oogie, it seems like they would do the same with the Easter Bunny. What happened next depends on where you fall on the SlidingScaleOfIdealismAndCynicism.SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism. If you want a happy ending, maybe the Easter Bunny was tougher than he looks, and he managed to fight off the trio and make his way back home. Alternatively, they took the EB to Oogie, who ''also'' got mad, commanded them to bring him Santa instead, and let the EB go. Unfortunately, it's also possible that Oogie was more than happy to accept the trio's offering, and he made some rabbit stew...
26th May '17 9:38:37 AM DrNoPuma
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[[WMG:[[WhatHappenedToTheMouse What happened to the Easter Bunny]]...]]
After Jack commands Lock, Shock, and Barrel to take the Easter Bunny back and get Santa Claus, we don't really find out whether they listened to him or not. But considering that they had every intention of handing Santa over to Oogie, it seems like they would do the same with the Easter Bunny. What happened next depends on where you fall on the SlidingScaleOfIdealismAndCynicism. If you want a happy ending, maybe the Easter Bunny was tougher than he looks, and he managed to fight off the trio and make his way back home. Alternatively, they took the EB to Oogie, who ''also'' got mad, commanded them to bring him Santa instead, and let the EB go. Unfortunately, it's also possible that Oogie was more than happy to accept the trio's offering, and he made some rabbit stew...
15th Apr '17 12:31:56 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: [[TheSlenderManMythos Slender Man]] is either Jack's father or uncle]]

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[[WMG: [[TheSlenderManMythos [[Franchise/TheSlenderManMythos Slender Man]] is either Jack's father or uncle]]
16th Mar '17 6:02:48 PM DrNoPuma
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** Maybe they just have to pick one holiday town to live in, and their new form takes on qualities of both holidays? For example, someone who loves Halloween and Christmas may go to Christmas Town and become, say, a scary polar bear, or go to Halloween Town and become, say, a BadSanta-esque monster.
11th Mar '17 9:23:44 AM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Oogie Boogie is the future identity of [[{{Ferngully}} Hexxus]].]]

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[[WMG: Oogie Boogie is the future identity of [[{{Ferngully}} [[WesternAnimation/FernGullyTheLastRainforest Hexxus]].]]
21st Oct '16 6:45:56 PM DrNoPuma
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* Interesting idea. But what would happen to someone who loves two holidays (say, Halloween and Christmas) equally?



Specifically: Halloween Town, and Jack's being the Pumpkin King, symbolize Elfman's time in [[Music/OingoBoingo Oingo Boingo]], while Christmas Town (and being "Sandy Claws") represent doing film scores. [[http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/oct/02/danny-elfman-tim-burton-singing More or less confirmed.]]

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Specifically: Halloween Town, and Jack's being the Pumpkin King, symbolize Elfman's time in [[Music/OingoBoingo Oingo Boingo]], Music/OingoBoingo, while Christmas Town (and being "Sandy Claws") represent doing film scores. [[http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/oct/02/danny-elfman-tim-burton-singing More or less confirmed.]]
13th Oct '16 7:08:19 AM Stinkoman87
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* When he talks and sings, there are times where you see he has teeth ''under the ones in the outside.'' Which is either really strange biology, or what we think are his real teeth are just white lips with black stripes on them.
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