History WMG / TheNightmareBeforeChristmas

27th Jun '16 1:48:27 PM Willbyr
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In the ''FrankenFran'' universe, her creator died shortly after she woke up, and, having not been raised with the mental abuse (and possibly other types as well), she decided to take up her creator's line of work because it looked like fun.

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In the ''FrankenFran'' ''Franken Fran'' universe, her creator died shortly after she woke up, and, having not been raised with the mental abuse (and possibly other types as well), she decided to take up her creator's line of work because it looked like fun.
27th Jun '16 1:46:19 PM Willbyr
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[[WMG: Sally is an alternate universe version of [[FrankenFran Fran Maderaki]].]]

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[[WMG: Sally is an alternate universe version of [[FrankenFran [[Manga/FrankenFran Fran Maderaki]].]]
4th Jun '16 10:49:07 PM nombretomado
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* {{Jossed}} in the PS2 sequel. He's the former ruler of forgotten holiday Bug Day.
** Like someone said above, none of the original creators were a part of the PS2 sequel, so it's technically not {{Jossed}}.

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* {{Jossed}} in the PS2 [=PS2=] sequel. He's the former ruler of forgotten holiday Bug Day.
** Like someone said above, none of the original creators were a part of the PS2 [=PS2=] sequel, so it's technically not {{Jossed}}.



** Definitely true in the non-canon PS2 game.

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** Definitely true in the non-canon PS2 [=PS2=] game.
3rd Jun '16 12:25:07 PM ScroogeMacDuck
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* All that is interesting, but not everyone in Halloweentown is dead, fercrissake! Dr. Finkelstein, the werewolf, lake creature, witches, etc. have no reason to be dead. There are lots of dead people in Halloweentown because a lot of monsters are ghosts and other types of undeads, but it doesn't mean Halloweentown is the afterlife or something.
3rd Jun '16 12:14:33 PM ScroogeMacDuck
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* "Formerly" alive? Why do you think they're undead? ''Unlike'' the Corpse Boy, who is, on the contrary, supposed to be an undead human being, Lock, Shock and Barrel are the local trick-or-treaters, who have no reason to be dead. They're just ugly because, you know, town of monsters.
31st May '16 12:49:01 PM ScroogeMacDuck
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* This is very clever, but sadly pretty much {{Jossed}} by the fact that during ''Jack's Lament'', Jack can "take of [his] head to recite shakespearian quotations".[[note]]If you're not getting it, the way it josses this guess is that the "still has lungs and whatever" idea is to explain how a skeleton can sing; but the fact that he can still sing even if his head is disconnected from the rest of his body means that it's magic anyway.[[/note]] Also, the (clearly organs-less) skeletons in Oogie Boogie's lair can still sing, too.
28th May '16 8:44:32 PM nombretomado
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Taking into account Tim Burton's "No Magic" rule, Jack is able to bend the Spiral Hill, rise from water without getting wet, and breathe fire without the pre-drinking of flammable liquids, all under his own power! Not to mention Jack is one of the few characters in KingdomHearts who has dark versions of the normal spells available to Sora and Donald, as opposed to following an elemental theme such as Ariel or Mulan. The PlayStation 2 video game gave him direct control of fire and ice depending on the suit worn. As this troper sees it, Jack was born a Waterbender, learned Earth- and Fire-bending, and has only Air left to master! (Unless this troper has forgotten an example...)

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Taking into account Tim Burton's "No Magic" rule, Jack is able to bend the Spiral Hill, rise from water without getting wet, and breathe fire without the pre-drinking of flammable liquids, all under his own power! Not to mention Jack is one of the few characters in KingdomHearts who has dark versions of the normal spells available to Sora and Donald, as opposed to following an elemental theme such as Ariel or Mulan. The PlayStation 2 UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 video game gave him direct control of fire and ice depending on the suit worn. As this troper sees it, Jack was born a Waterbender, learned Earth- and Fire-bending, and has only Air left to master! (Unless this troper has forgotten an example...)
8th May '16 7:30:02 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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[[WMG: The movie takes place in the distant past of TengenToppaGurrenLagann]]

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[[WMG: The movie takes place in the distant past of TengenToppaGurrenLagann]]Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann]]
28th Mar '16 1:49:08 PM cheedo
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[[WMG: Jack's love for Sally is real, but he didn't always feel that way.]]
I think he really did fall in love with her, but I'm not sure I see the argument above as proof. I think when he saw Dr. F with his new girlfriend he was just surprised and a little weirded out that they looked the same. And Jack DIDN'T recognize Sally's feelings precisely because his own were not as strong as hers.
12th Mar '16 5:17:19 PM elipanda56
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[[WMG: Halloween Town is a kind of Limbo that exists between life and death.]]
This would explain things, such as how Jack is "dead so he can take off his head", but then later the townsfolk all believe that Jack is dead, like when Oogie says "Jack? But they said you were dead". It's not so much that Jack can die again; he's already dead. It's that the body he has in Limbo will perish, and he'll finally move towards real death.

[[WMG: Jack comes from a family of Pumpkin Kings, and has been raised to be king since he was a boy.]]
Which to me explains a lot. Especially since in the video game "Pumpkin King", Jack has his inauguration as it were into being a King. So it makes sense that he had been prepping to be king, and knew to expect it.
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