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19th Oct '17 3:29:58 PM koltai91
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[[Wmg: Jack is the hero in the legend of the Jack-O-Lantern.]]

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[[Wmg: [[WMG: Jack is the hero in the legend of the Jack-O-Lantern.]]
19th Oct '17 3:28:40 PM koltai91
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[[Wmg: Jack is the hero in the legend of the Jack-O-Lantern.]]
If you're not familiar with it, Jack was a drunkard who was once visited by the devil, who wanted to take him away. However, Jack tricked the devil by luring him up a tree, and drawing a cross on it, trapping the devil and not letting him come down unless he leaves him alone. After Jack died, he couldn't enter Heaven because he was a drunkard, and he couldn't enter Hell because the devil was still mad at him, altough he was given a little burning ember. So Jack carved a carrot/pumpkin, put the ember in it, and kept wandering the afterlife.
It's one of the known legends about Halloweenand who would be a better leader for the holiday than the one who invented one of the main symbols?
15th Aug '17 2:40:08 PM vifetoile
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[[WMG: Sally was a doll given at Christmas]]
It's possible that at least some of the residents of Halloweentown, before they came there, had lives in our world. Sally's life is that she was a handmade doll given as a Christmas gift. She belonged to a girl or family for a while. Eventually someone thought she was too scary-looking, and she was thrown out, or maybe destroyed, and was "reborn" in Halloweentown. The fact that Christmas was so important in her previous life is why she has an intuitive understanding of it - of Christmas, and of love - which no one else in Halloweentown has.
6th Aug '17 7:40:05 PM GothicNarcissus
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** Except that's not always the case. People who have feelings for someone can be especially distrustful of any reciprocation hints. They might be read as wishful thinking or self-indulgent pattern recognition. In Jack's specific case, he a) is shown not to have such a high degree of emotional maturity, so I wouldn't count on him readily recognising his own feelings, let alone Sally's, and b) may or may not be going through depression, but sure as hell he's going through a period of crisis, self-doubt and confusion. That alone chunks anyone's inability to recognise other people's feelings for them up to eleven: Jack clearly has the love and respect of all the people in Halloween Town, but that doesn't reach him. He has zero self-worth, so is unreceptive to what positive feelings other people have for him. That would include Sally, until after he finds himself again and re-establishes his sense of self-worth.
2nd Aug '17 4:51:34 PM DrNoPuma
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Except maybe the Mayor, who probably always sings the "In this town" lines. In addition, each monster[[note]]With the exception of, presumably, the Mayor (who only sings the "In this town" parts), Sally (who prefers not to take part in the song) and Jack (because the song is meant to build up to his grand entrance)[[/note]] has their own "I am the" line, but which monsters sing theirs is rotated every year. This is probably one of the things that the Mayor likes to plan out. Let's guess what the other monster's lines might be:
* Dr. Finklestein: "I'm the evil genius with the monster wife! Bringing your worst nightmares to life!"

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Except maybe the Mayor, who probably always sings the "In this town" lines. In addition, each monster[[note]]With the exception of, presumably, the Mayor (who only sings the "In this town" parts), Sally (who prefers not to take part in the song) and song), Jack (because the song is meant to build up to his grand entrance)[[/note]] entrance), and any monsters who can't speak (like Zero)[[/note]] has their own "I am the" line, but which monsters sing theirs is rotated every year. This is probably one of the things that the Mayor likes to plan out. Let's guess what the other monster's lines might be:
* Dr. Finklestein: "I'm the evil genius with the monster wife! / Bringing your worst nightmares to life!"
2nd Aug '17 4:47:54 PM DrNoPuma
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* Dr. Finklestein: "I'm the evil genius with the monster with! Bringing your worst nightmares to life!"

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* Dr. Finklestein: "I'm the evil genius with the monster with! wife! Bringing your worst nightmares to life!"
2nd Aug '17 4:47:26 PM DrNoPuma
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Except maybe the Mayor, who probably always sings the "In this town" lines. In addition, each monster has their own "I am the" line, but which monsters sing theirs is rotated every year. This is probably one of the things that the Mayor likes to plan out. Let's guess what the other monster's lines might be:

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Except maybe the Mayor, who probably always sings the "In this town" lines. In addition, each monster monster[[note]]With the exception of, presumably, the Mayor (who only sings the "In this town" parts), Sally (who prefers not to take part in the song) and Jack (because the song is meant to build up to his grand entrance)[[/note]] has their own "I am the" line, but which monsters sing theirs is rotated every year. This is probably one of the things that the Mayor likes to plan out. Let's guess what the other monster's lines might be:be:
* Dr. Finklestein: "I'm the evil genius with the monster with! Bringing your worst nightmares to life!"
* Lock, Shock, and Barrel: "We are the kids, who, though no older than six / don't like treats, cause we'd rather play tricks!"


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* Werewolf: "I am the werewolf, hear me growl! / Nobody's safe when I'm on the prowl!"
* Devil: "I am the devil, making you feel unwell / Evil and frightening like I'm straight from hell!"
1st Aug '17 5:46:10 PM DrNoPuma
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* Mr. Hyde: "I am the man who holds in his hat / tinier men, like the size of a rat!"

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* Mr. Hyde: "I am the man who holds in his hat / tinier men, like the size of a rat!"that's where we are at!"
1st Aug '17 5:42:07 PM DrNoPuma
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[[WMG:The monsters sing "This is Halloween" every year, but each time, different monsters sing different parts.]]
Except maybe the Mayor, who probably always sings the "In this town" lines. In addition, each monster has their own "I am the" line, but which monsters sing theirs is rotated every year. This is probably one of the things that the Mayor likes to plan out. Let's guess what the other monster's lines might be:
* Undersea Gal: "I am the lady lurking under the lake / swimming with me is a big mistake!"
* Harlequin Demon: "I am the creature who looks quite unique! / alien features to make you shriek!"
* Mr. Hyde: "I am the man who holds in his hat / tinier men, like the size of a rat!"
11th Jul '17 7:33:51 PM DrNoPuma
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[[WMG:Christmas magic is what saved Jack's life.]]
The monsters' reaction to Jack's sleigh getting shot down indicates that, despite being a skeleton, he ''should'' have died. Maybe some outside force from Christmas Town (or maybe the night itself was magical) stepped in to keep the explosion and fall from killing Jack, so he could save Santa.
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