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15th Apr '17 12:31:56 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: [[TheSlenderManMythos Slender Man]] is either Jack's father or uncle]]

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[[WMG: [[TheSlenderManMythos [[Franchise/TheSlenderManMythos Slender Man]] is either Jack's father or uncle]]
16th Mar '17 6:02:48 PM DrNoPuma
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** Maybe they just have to pick one holiday town to live in, and their new form takes on qualities of both holidays? For example, someone who loves Halloween and Christmas may go to Christmas Town and become, say, a scary polar bear, or go to Halloween Town and become, say, a BadSanta-esque monster.
11th Mar '17 9:23:44 AM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Oogie Boogie is the future identity of [[{{Ferngully}} Hexxus]].]]

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[[WMG: Oogie Boogie is the future identity of [[{{Ferngully}} [[WesternAnimation/FernGullyTheLastRainforest Hexxus]].]]
21st Oct '16 6:45:56 PM DrNoPuma
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* Interesting idea. But what would happen to someone who loves two holidays (say, Halloween and Christmas) equally?



Specifically: Halloween Town, and Jack's being the Pumpkin King, symbolize Elfman's time in [[Music/OingoBoingo Oingo Boingo]], while Christmas Town (and being "Sandy Claws") represent doing film scores. [[http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/oct/02/danny-elfman-tim-burton-singing More or less confirmed.]]

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Specifically: Halloween Town, and Jack's being the Pumpkin King, symbolize Elfman's time in [[Music/OingoBoingo Oingo Boingo]], Music/OingoBoingo, while Christmas Town (and being "Sandy Claws") represent doing film scores. [[http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/oct/02/danny-elfman-tim-burton-singing More or less confirmed.]]
13th Oct '16 7:08:19 AM Stinkoman87
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* When he talks and sings, there are times where you see he has teeth ''under the ones in the outside.'' Which is either really strange biology, or what we think are his real teeth are just white lips with black stripes on them.
8th Sep '16 2:44:18 PM 8BrickMario
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* Jossed by the lyrics of "This Is Halloween", which refer to him as "skeleton Jack". It's just a costume for his BigEntrance.

7th Sep '16 12:29:59 PM 8BrickMario
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** Alternatively, he represents AdultFear, since he gambles, kidnaps, and tortures, compared to the lighthearted other residents of the town.



* Lock, Shock, and Barrel: Pedophobia (fear of children). Yes, it exists.

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* Lock, Shock, and Barrel: Pedophobia (fear of children). Yes, it exists. Either that or fear of neighborhood hooligans or the EnfantTerrible.



** Ethan (the kid): ???

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** Ethan (the kid): ???Fear of the loss of senses (his eyes are stitched shut).



** Alternatively for both: Fear of the dark or fear of the unknown.

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** Alternatively for both: Fear of the dark or fear of the unknown. Or ThingsThatGoBumpInTheNight.



* Harlequin Demon: ???
* Igor: ???

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* Harlequin Demon: ???
Fear of the abstract or subconscious? His design is especially bizarre.
* Igor: ???Fear of servitude or mental disability.



* Apple Crone: Fear of poisoned foods (Halloween treats, especially), or fear of deception in general.




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* This is pretty much a given. It's not unlikely that Oogie would need to replenish his supplies occasionally.




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* As of her transfer to ''Franchise/EverAfterHigh'', it's pretty clear that the "bone elemental" idea was purely a hypothesis on Ghoulia's part and that Cupid just changes appearances to match her surroundings. Jack is likely just the abstract idea of a skeleton or a monster rather than reanimated bones, so he doesn't have to obey the rules of biology.



Now if we have to have reality with the people who keep complaining pregnancy isn't possible despite the main villain is a sack of bugs so really is pregnancy that far a stretch, Anyway Skelita is adopted with a couple other skeleton and ragdoll children for the godparents angle she is the Daughter of La Muerte and Xibalba and since Day of the Dead is the day after Halloween they felt Jack and Sally would be perfect since they know the two would make sure to let Skelita know about her heritage.
* Additionally for the adoption angle they adopted Hoodude after Franky stein abandon him since he is a living rag doll.

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Now if we have to have reality with the people who keep complaining pregnancy isn't possible despite the main villain is a sack of bugs so really is pregnancy that far a stretch, Anyway Skelita is adopted with a couple other skeleton and ragdoll children for the godparents angle she is the Daughter of La Muerte and Xibalba and since Day of the Dead is the day after Halloween they felt Jack and Sally would be perfect since they know the two would make sure to let Skelita know about her heritage.
* Additionally for the adoption angle they adopted Hoodude after Franky stein abandon Frankie Stein abandoned him since he is a living rag doll.
** So far, the MH canon seems to deny the possibility. Hoodude lives with one of the teachers, and Skelita's parents are said to be Hexican, so Jack and Sally might have to be long-ago ancestors.



** Definitely true in the non-canon [=PS2=] game.

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** Definitely true in the non-canon [=PS2=] game.
game. He hails from Bug Day.



* Jack represents psychological scares, but never hurts anybody other than Oogie, someone who has it coming -- a staple of old school horror where even the antagonist often had sympathetic motives. Jack also has grandiose designs and plans. In contrast, Oogie Boogie is all about death and visceral reactions (he's essentially skinned alive), like modern horror films' reliance on gore.

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* Jack represents psychological scares, but never hurts anybody other than Oogie, someone who has it coming -- a staple of old school horror where even the antagonist often had sympathetic motives. Jack also has grandiose designs and plans. In contrast, Oogie Boogie is all about death and visceral reactions (he's essentially skinned alive), like modern horror films' reliance on gore.gore and brutality.




[[WMG: Everyone in Halloween Town is borne of a different human fear.]]
* Jack is the fear of skeletons, Sally and the Corpse Family may represent fears of the living dead, the Mayor could be fear of responsibility or fear of incapable politicians, and Lock, Shock, and Barrel could represent a fear of hooligans in the neighborhood. The reason Oogie Boogie is reviled and feared even among Halloween Town? He represents AdultFear, like gambling, kidnapping, and torture.
7th Sep '16 12:06:46 PM 8BrickMario
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[[WMG: Everyone in Halloween Town is borne of a different human fear.]]
* Jack is the fear of skeletons, Sally and the Corpse Family may represent fears of the living dead, the Mayor could be fear of responsibility or fear of incapable politicians, and Lock, Shock, and Barrel could represent a fear of hooligans in the neighborhood. The reason Oogie Boogie is reviled and feared even among Halloween Town? He represents AdultFear, like gambling, kidnapping, and torture.
27th Jun '16 1:48:27 PM Willbyr
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In the ''FrankenFran'' universe, her creator died shortly after she woke up, and, having not been raised with the mental abuse (and possibly other types as well), she decided to take up her creator's line of work because it looked like fun.

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In the ''FrankenFran'' ''Franken Fran'' universe, her creator died shortly after she woke up, and, having not been raised with the mental abuse (and possibly other types as well), she decided to take up her creator's line of work because it looked like fun.
27th Jun '16 1:46:19 PM Willbyr
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[[WMG: Sally is an alternate universe version of [[FrankenFran Fran Maderaki]].]]

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[[WMG: Sally is an alternate universe version of [[FrankenFran [[Manga/FrankenFran Fran Maderaki]].]]
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