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Arda is Melkor's Ring and made using similar magic. Someone putting on Sauron's Ring can use the power was invested into it. Even though no creature in Arda could probably reach through the entire planet Arda would still be wieldable in theory. If you chucked Sauron's Ring into a box that no creature could access the laws of the universe would still permit it to be wielded in theory even if no one can get to it. In addition to this if invested objects like Sauron's Ring count as part of the creating creature then this allows creatures to assume non standard shapes. Think of a creature investing a strip of Arda reaching from Pole to Pole. Perhaps this is the reason that the Nameless things are gnawing at the bottom of the world, creating some kind of invested strip across Arda. Such an attempt may have weakened them in a similar manner to Melkor wearing himself by investing himself into Arda. This explains why there is mention of the Nameless things hiding from Gobins that enter their tunnels. Matti23

and the Nameless Things migrated from there.

!!Tolkien's ''The Lord of the Rings'': In-universe WMG:
[[folder:What happened to the Orcs after the fall of Sauron?]]
* The Orcs turned back into elves
The elves are made from corrupted elves. When Melkor is defeated and chained outside Arda the Orcs seem to lose their sense of purpose. Perhaps this is whatever he initially did to the elves starting to reverse. When Sauron rises to power they seem to become more purposeful so perhaps Sauron is maintaining Melkor's effect on the Orcs. When Sauron is defeated in Lord of the Rings their behaviour seems to suggest that Melkor's effect on them is continuing to fade. Perhaps some of the odd behaviour is Meklor's corruption fading enough for them to realise what has happened to them. Perhaps the Orcs that survive the period will eventually revert into being Elves.

[[folder:What happend to the Orcs after the fall of Sauron?]]

[[WMG: Unicorns exist within the film-verse.]]

A variety of ancient unicorn, called the "Monoceros", resembles these creatures; "[it] has the head of a stag, the feet of the elephant, and the tail of the boar, while the rest of the body is like that of the horse; it makes a deep lowing noise, and has a single black horn, which projects from the middle of its forehead, two cubits in length". Naturally, unicorns as we know them are not the size of elephants, nor are on the side of darkness, but it [[OurDragonsAreDifferent wouldn't]] [[OurOrcsAreDifferent be]] [[AllTrollsAreDifferent the]] [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent first]] [[OurVampiresAreDifferent time]] a familiar beast was re-interpreted through inclusion into Tolkien's mythos.

The elves are made from corrupted elves. When Melkor is defeated and chained outside Arda the Orcs seem to lose their sense of purpose. Perhaps this is whatever he initially did to the elves starting to reverse. When Sauron rises to power they seem to become more purposeful so perhaps Sauron is maintaining Melkor's effect on the Orcs. When Sauron is defeated in Lord of the Rings their behaviour seems to suggest that Melkor's effect on them is continuing to fade. Perhaps some of the odd behaviour is Meklor's corruption fading enough for them to realise what has happened to them. Perhaps the Orcs that survive the period will eventually revert into being Elves. Matti23

The Dwarves were mining the extremely valuable Mithril when they ran into the Balrog and were driven off. Gandalf destroyed the Balrog during the Lord of the Rings and after the defeat of Sauron many Orcs died. This means that the valuable Mithril in that area is now accessible again and the Dwarves will start digging. Gandalf also said that during his fight with the Balrog that there were Nameless Things in the deepest tunnels. It seems that the Dwarves will start digging for Mithril until they hit nameless things which will trigger an invasion of Moria. A very Dwarf Fortress way to go. Matti23

He does say that he was there even before Melkor. Tom Bombadil might be the name only of his human form, just like the term Gandalf only refers to a human form. Matti23

!!Tolkien's ''The Lord of the Rings'': In-universe WMG:

The Dwarves were mining the extremely valuable Mithril when they ran into the Balrog and were driven off. Gandalf destroyed the Balrog during the Lord of the Rings and after the defeat of Sauron many Orcs died. This means that the valuable Mithril in that area is now accessible again and the Dwarves will start digging. Gandalf also said that during his fight with the Balrog that there were Nameless Things in the deepest tunnels. It seems that the Dwarves will start digging for Mithril until they hit nameless things which will trigger an invasion of Moria. A very Dwarf Fortress way to go.

The elves are made from corrupted elves. When he is defeated and chained outside Arda the Orcs seem to lose their sense of purpose. Perhaps this is whatever he initially did to the elves starting to reverse. When Sauron rises to power they seem to become more purposeful so perhaps Sauron is maintaining Melkor's effect on the Orcs. When Sauron is defeated in Lord of the Rings their behaviour seems to suggest that Melkor's effect on them is continuing to fade. Perhaps some of the odd behaviour is Meklor's corruption fading enough for them to realise what has happened to them. Perhaps the Orcs that survive the period will eventually revert into being Elves. Matti23

We know that Saruman lost all his power except for a limited ability to persuade others to do things. After the Scouring of the Shire, even that seemed to fail. However, his years of manipulation had left him with an excellent knowledge of Wormtongue's psyche and limits. He knew exactly how to push Wormtongue over the edge and provoke him to attack.

He had several reasons for wanting to die:

We know that Saruman lost all his power except for a limited ability to persuade others to do things. After the Scouring of the Shire, even that seemed to fail. However, his years of manipulation had left him with an excellent knowledge of Wormtongue's psyche and limits. He knew exactly how to push Wormtongue over the edge and lead him to attack.

[[WMG:The Ents decided to prank the Hobbits]]
How come so many Ents came out of the forest so quickly? Because they ''did'' decide to fight Saruman. They just told the Hobbits otherwise. I wonder whether this was Gandalf's idea.

We know that Saruman lost all his power except for a limited ability to persuade others to do things. After the Scouring of the Shire, even that ability seemed to have gone. However, his years of manipulation had left him with an excellent knowledge of Wormtongue's psyche and limits. He knew that his final insult would push Wormtongue over the edge and lead him to attack.

His ineffective stab at Frodo was actually an excuse to drop his knife, which was his only remaining weapon, and ensure Wormtongue knew he was defenceless.

He had three reasons for wanting to die:
1. He had nowhere in Middle-Earth to go, and no more mischief to achieve.
2. His death in the Shire might lead a few hobbits to worry for a while that his prediction about poisoning the area would come true, giving them a few months' more grief.
3. He thought his spirit might end up back in Valinor, and didn't think he'd be allowed on a ship so that was his only hope of getting there. This last hope was apparently dashed when his shade was blown away by a wind from the west.

Sauron is a known [[LawfulEvil control freak]] who wants everything to be perfectly ordered and efficient, which contrasts nicely with his former boss more versatile personnality. The orcs are much more like Morgoth than Sauron, with their constant infighting and wanton destruction. While Sauron keeps them around because they are good at killing stuff, he does not seem to trust them that much : every [[TheDragon high ranking trusted servant]] of his is either a Man or a [[TheUndead former Man]] save ([[AmbiguouslyHuman maybe]]) for Gothmog, Men also make up a large part of his armies. The existence of specialized breeds of Orcs and of the Uruk-Hai, who are better in every way than the rest of the Orcs, shows that he was tinkering with Orcs, trying to bring them to his standard. Had he won, the entire Orc race would have been progressively replaced by Uruk-Hai only, and once he had control of the whole of ME, [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness and the Orcs had therefore served their purpose]], finally wiped out to make way for a purely Mannish empire with [[PhysicalGod Sauron]] at the top, fullfiling the prophecy of [[ExactWords the domination of Men]].

Sauron is a known [[LawfulEvil control freak]] who wants everything to be perfectly ordered and efficient, which contrasts nicely with his former boss more [[ChaoticEvil versatile personnality]]. The orcs are much more like Morgoth than Sauron, with their constant infighting and wanton destruction. While Sauron keeps them around because they are good at killing stuff, he does not seem to trust them that much : every [[TheDragon high ranking trusted servant]] of his is either a Man or a [[TheUndead former Man]] save ([[AmbiguouslyHuman maybe]]) for Gothmog, Men also make up a large part of his armies. The existence of specialized breeds of Orcs and of the Uruk-Hai, who are better in every way than the rest of the Orcs, shows that he was tinkering with Orcs, trying to bring them to his standard. Had he won, the entire Orc race would have been progressively replaced by Uruk-Hai only, and once he had control of the whole of ME, [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness and the Orcs had therefore served their purpose]], finally wiped out to make way for a purely Mannish empire with [[PhysicalGod Sauron]] at the top, fullfiling the prophecy of [[ExactWords the domination of Men]].

This explains how they're Main/AlwaysChaoticEvil, and why Sauron calls himself The Necromancer in ''The Hobbit''.

Somewhere between the time of Isildur being killed and Sméagol finding The Ring, it eroded in the water until a tiny chip of it was broken off. This fragment of gold was still imbued with the power of the Ring, making people desire it. At one point this chip was lodged in an oyster, and layed dormant for thousands of years, creating a gigantic pearl. Then, millions of years after Frodo destroyed the Ring and Sauron, a poor diver named Kino discovers the pearl created from the Ring-chip, thus bringing about the events of John Steinbeck's The Pearl.

* Tom Bombadil is a [[StarWars Jedi]] - or more specifically, the Force ghost of Anakin Skywalker as played by Sebastian Shaw (1983 original release) instead of the 2004 DVD release which had him replaced with Hayden Christensen. Think about it.

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