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[[WMG: That wasn't the last truffula seed]]
The Onceler had a change of heart but never actually learned how ecology works. That's why he didn't think twice about trying to repopulate the truffula trees from a single seed (which would create a severe genetic bottle-neck even if truffula trees reproduced asexually). He assumed a seed he found in his factory was the last one because the environment outside looked like a barren wasteland. In reality, there was a healthy, diverse seed bank left behind from bar-ba-loots eating the truffula fruits. The seeds remained dormant until the conditions became habitable again.
The Onceler had a change of heart but never actually learned how ecology works. That's why he didn't think twice about trying to repopulate the truffula trees from a single seed (which would create a severe genetic bottle-neck even if truffula trees reproduced asexually). He assumed a seed he found in his factory was the last one because the environment outside looked like a barren wasteland. In reality, there was a healthy, diverse seed bank left behind from bar-ba-loots eating the truffula fruits. The seeds remained dormant until the conditions became habitable again.
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Either he or his parents came to Thneedville to take advantage of the Once-ler's success. Instead of leaving after the Thneed business failed he stuck around for some reason, and when he saw how polluted the air was he came up with the idea of selling clean air to people and got rich off of it. Just so he's more connected to the story.
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Either he or his parents came to Thneedville to take advantage of the Once-ler's success. Instead of leaving after the Thneed business failed he stuck around for some reason, and when he saw how polluted the air was he came up with the idea of selling clean air to people and got rich off of it. Just so he's more connected to the story.story.
[[WMG: Extending on the "O'Hare is related to the Once-ler theory...]]
O'Hare was one of the Once-ler's cousins/brothers, who was too young when the Thneed fad started to come and help. According to WordOfGod, five years passed during [[VillainSong How Bad Can I Be?]], so by the end, O'Hare was able to come and see as Thneedville died.
After seeing the immeasurable profits the Once-ler made, O'Hare decided to start on a company of his own after the Thneed business failed. Presumably, there were a lot of people in Thneedville who didn't have the money to move out and were now trapped in the wasteland. So he started selling a resource that wasn't just a fad, something that they '''needed''' to survive: clean air. It was something they couldn't get without traveling a long ways away, something they could never decide they didn't need, and something that there would always be plenty of elsewhere. After all, the Once-ler had done the hard part for him by getting rid of all the trees...
[[WMG: The Once-ler's family has done this before.]]
They really don't seem to care about the terrible destruction they've caused, only the money they'd make for it. They had no qualms with just up and leaving the moment the business ended, and outright abandoned the Once-ler just because he wasn't willing to do it again.
[[WMG: There are more members of the Once-ler family we haven't seen.]]
Once the Thneed business fails, the Once-ler family packs up and heads off for another place to ruin, but the Once-ler himself doesn't go with them. Building on the above theory that his family has done this before, there must be more members of his family that, like him, learned from their mistakes and refused to cause any more destruction.
[[WMG: Extending on the "O'Hare is related to the Once-ler theory...]]
O'Hare was one of the Once-ler's cousins/brothers, who was too young when the Thneed fad started to come and help. According to WordOfGod, five years passed during [[VillainSong How Bad Can I Be?]], so by the end, O'Hare was able to come and see as Thneedville died.
After seeing the immeasurable profits the Once-ler made, O'Hare decided to start on a company of his own after the Thneed business failed. Presumably, there were a lot of people in Thneedville who didn't have the money to move out and were now trapped in the wasteland. So he started selling a resource that wasn't just a fad, something that they '''needed''' to survive: clean air. It was something they couldn't get without traveling a long ways away, something they could never decide they didn't need, and something that there would always be plenty of elsewhere. After all, the Once-ler had done the hard part for him by getting rid of all the trees...
[[WMG: The Once-ler's family has done this before.]]
They really don't seem to care about the terrible destruction they've caused, only the money they'd make for it. They had no qualms with just up and leaving the moment the business ended, and outright abandoned the Once-ler just because he wasn't willing to do it again.
[[WMG: There are more members of the Once-ler family we haven't seen.]]
Once the Thneed business fails, the Once-ler family packs up and heads off for another place to ruin, but the Once-ler himself doesn't go with them. Building on the above theory that his family has done this before, there must be more members of his family that, like him, learned from their mistakes and refused to cause any more destruction.
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[[WMG: The bear laying on the door shelf of the refrigerator (as the Lorax closes it) with his tongue half out was ''dead''.]]
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[[WMG: The bear barbaloot laying on the door shelf of the refrigerator (as the Lorax closes it) with his tongue half out was ''dead''.]]
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* Jossed. Right before the Lorax closed the door, the barbaloot blinked. The dead don't blink.
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** She could be his daughter and a HalfHumanHybrid for all we know.
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* the duck pjs
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** He'll make the Thneed into something useful and use the fame and fortune he gets to promote environmentalism and protect other forests. He could also let people recycle their Thneeds; give them back when they don't need them anymore and use the material for old Thneeds to make new ones. Then he'd have another source of materials besides the trees.
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** He'll make the Thneed into something useful and use the fame and fortune he gets to promote environmentalism and protect other forests. He could also let people recycle their Thneeds; give them back when they don't need them anymore and use the material for old Thneeds to make new ones. Then he'd have another source of materials besides the trees. '
*** In the book (and cartoon) the Thneed was actually useful, being an all-purpose object, "It's a shirt, it's a sock, etc", the ecological crime was the process of making Thneeds was ruining the environment, with smoke, chemical waste, over-harvest of the trees, and the like.
It's also likely that over the years the designers just got lazy, eliminating whatever useful qualities the Thneed had, in order to make it into a mere status object, like a cashmere dishrag.
*** In the book (and cartoon) the Thneed was actually useful, being an all-purpose object, "It's a shirt, it's a sock, etc", the ecological crime was the process of making Thneeds was ruining the environment, with smoke, chemical waste, over-harvest of the trees, and the like.
It's also likely that over the years the designers just got lazy, eliminating whatever useful qualities the Thneed had, in order to make it into a mere status object, like a cashmere dishrag.
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* She does kiss him on the cheek at the end, but there's nothing else to confirm or disprove that they end up together.
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* She does kiss him on the cheek at the end, but there's nothing else to [[MaybeEverAfter confirm or disprove that they end up together.
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** Slytherin-ish clothes? Leaving the colour aside, I believe his clothes were more like [[CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory Willy Wonka]]'s. It does make him look like a snake, though, considering his posture.
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** Slytherin-ish clothes? Leaving the colour aside, I believe his clothes were more like [[CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory [[Literature/CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory Willy Wonka]]'s. It does make him look like a snake, though, considering his posture.
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That's why he needed to wait for Ted. He needed to convince someone young and un-corrupted by greed that the seed was worth protecting. He couldn't plant the seed himself because it wouldn't have grown for him, and he couldn't have rallied the townspeople to get them to want to protect the seed after he had spent so long telling everyone to destroy it. He had Ted plant the seed far away from him so it would be protected until the 'curse' wore off, which it did as the first trees started growing back in town. It's completely gone by the end, which is why the plants around his house have started to grow again and why the Lorax was able to come back.
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That's why he needed to wait for Ted. He needed to convince someone young and un-corrupted by greed that the seed was worth protecting. He couldn't plant the seed himself because it wouldn't have grown for him, and he couldn't have rallied the townspeople to get them to want to protect the seed after he had spent so long telling everyone to destroy it. He had Ted plant the seed far away from him so it would be protected until the 'curse' wore off, which it did as the first trees started growing back in town. It's completely gone by the end, which is why the plants around his house have started to grow again and why the Lorax was able to come back.back.
[[WMG: O'Hare is one of the Once-ler's relatives.]]
Either he or his parents came to Thneedville to take advantage of the Once-ler's success. Instead of leaving after the Thneed business failed he stuck around for some reason, and when he saw how polluted the air was he came up with the idea of selling clean air to people and got rich off of it. Just so he's more connected to the story.
[[WMG: O'Hare is one of the Once-ler's relatives.]]
Either he or his parents came to Thneedville to take advantage of the Once-ler's success. Instead of leaving after the Thneed business failed he stuck around for some reason, and when he saw how polluted the air was he came up with the idea of selling clean air to people and got rich off of it. Just so he's more connected to the story.
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- Looks like "a pentagram" of Gerard Way and someone with a rounder facial structure.
- Seems bi.
- Once corrupted, took on to wear Slytherin-ish clothes.
* Slytherin-ish clothes? Leaving the colour aside, I believe his clothes were more like [[CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory Willy Wonka]]'s. It does make him look like a snake, though, considering his posture.
- Seems bi.
- Once corrupted, took on to wear Slytherin-ish clothes.
* Slytherin-ish clothes? Leaving the colour aside, I believe his clothes were more like [[CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory Willy Wonka]]'s. It does make him look like a snake, though, considering his posture.
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[[WMG: After the Lorax left, the Once-ler became (or at least thought of himself as) a WalkingWasteland.]]
That's why he needed to wait for Ted.
That's why he needed to wait for Ted.
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[[WMG: After the Lorax left, the Once-ler became (or metaphorically became, or at least thought of himself as) a WalkingWasteland.]]
That's why he needed to wait for Ted. He needed to convince someone young and un-corrupted by greed that the seed was worth protecting. He couldn't plant the seed himself because it wouldn't have grown for him, and he couldn't have rallied the townspeople to get them to want to protect the seed after he had spent so long telling everyone to destroy it. He had Ted plant the seed far away from him so it would be protected until the 'curse' wore off, which it did as the first trees started growing back in town. It's completely gone by the end, which is why the plants around his house have started to grow again and why the Lorax was able to come back.
That's why he needed to wait for Ted. He needed to convince someone young and un-corrupted by greed that the seed was worth protecting. He couldn't plant the seed himself because it wouldn't have grown for him, and he couldn't have rallied the townspeople to get them to want to protect the seed after he had spent so long telling everyone to destroy it. He had Ted plant the seed far away from him so it would be protected until the 'curse' wore off, which it did as the first trees started growing back in town. It's completely gone by the end, which is why the plants around his house have started to grow again and why the Lorax was able to come back.
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* [[spoiler: Jossed, the Lorax is as sadly accepting of the Once-ler's behavior as he is in the book. But unlike the book, the story does not end there...]]
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* Could explain why the mother and grandmother acted a certain way once the oncler was brought up at dinner. Bitter feelings come from the mother because he left them, but grandma always had a soft spot for him.
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* Could explain why the mother and grandmother acted a certain way once the oncler Once-ler was brought up at dinner. Bitter feelings come from the mother because he left them, but grandma always had a soft spot for him.
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* The Once-ler was going to listen to the Lorax but then [[spoiler:the Lorax went and put his bed in the river causing the Once-ler to almost drown]] and the Once-ler won't care what he has to say and therefore the crapsack world.
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* The Once-ler was going to listen to the Lorax but then [[spoiler:the the Lorax went and put his bed in the river causing the Once-ler to almost drown]] drown and the Once-ler won't care what he has to say and therefore the crapsack world.
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* She does kiss him on the cheek at the end, but there's nothing else to confirm or disprove that they end up together.
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** Highly unlikely, unless they changed their names. Their names are given as Marty and McGurk.
[[WMG:The moral of the lorax is also the same one as "ThePrincessAndTheFrog"]]
About needing instead of wanting, Once-ler wanted his family's love and his success, what he **needed was to take care of the environment...unfortunately he learns that on late, and Ted wanted Audrey as his girlfriend what he needed was to care about the trees, only when they get taken "Part of the way."do they get what they need instead of what they want. Its how the Lorax's magic works, his magic can only take you part of the way, you have to find your own happily ever after.
[[WMG:The moral of the lorax is also the same one as "ThePrincessAndTheFrog"]]
About needing instead of wanting, Once-ler wanted his family's love and his success, what he **needed was to take care of the environment...unfortunately he learns that on late, and Ted wanted Audrey as his girlfriend what he needed was to care about the trees, only when they get taken "Part of the way."do they get what they need instead of what they want. Its how the Lorax's magic works, his magic can only take you part of the way, you have to find your own happily ever after.
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** They could be Brett and Chet's sons.
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[[WMG: [[CoolOldLady Ted's grandma]] was the girl to recieve the first thneed.]]
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[[WMG: When Once-ler chops down the Truffula Trees, [[spoiler: he inadvertently kills the Lorax]] ]]
Here's another theory that the fandom has pondered over. The Lorax is tied to the Truffula Valley as its guardian, so it would make sense that he's a personification of the trees since he speaks on their behalf. When the Once-ler cuts down the trees, the reason that Lorax's so upset is that it doesn't just affect the ecosystem and the animals, but [[spoiler: it affects him as well.]] Finally, as the last tree falls, he lifts himself up [[spoiler: and dies]] As Ted plants the final seed and trees come back, [[spoiler: The Lorax is reborn.]]
[[WMG: The Once-ler became "Corrupted" because of his mom]]
Here's another theory that the fandom has pondered over. The Lorax is tied to the Truffula Valley as its guardian, so it would make sense that he's a personification of the trees since he speaks on their behalf. When the Once-ler cuts down the trees, the reason that Lorax's so upset is that it doesn't just affect the ecosystem and the animals, but [[spoiler: it affects him as well.]] Finally, as the last tree falls, he lifts himself up [[spoiler: and dies]] As Ted plants the final seed and trees come back, [[spoiler: The Lorax is reborn.]]
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Here's another theory that the fandom has pondered over. The Lorax is tied to the Truffula Valley as its guardian, so it would make sense that he's a personification of the trees since he speaks on their behalf. When the Once-ler cuts down the trees, the reason that Lorax's so upset is that it doesn't just affect the ecosystem and the animals, but[[spoiler: it affects him as well.]] well. Finally, as the last tree falls, he lifts himself up [[spoiler: and dies]] dies. As Ted plants the final seed and trees come back, [[spoiler: The Lorax is reborn.]]
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[[WMG: The Once-ler became "Corrupted" because of hismom]]mom.]]
Here's another theory that the fandom has pondered over. The Lorax is tied to the Truffula Valley as its guardian, so it would make sense that he's a personification of the trees since he speaks on their behalf. When the Once-ler cuts down the trees, the reason that Lorax's so upset is that it doesn't just affect the ecosystem and the animals, but
[[WMG: The Once-ler became "Corrupted" because of his
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** He'll make the Thneed into something useful and use the fame and fortune he gets to promote environmentalism and protect other forests. He could also let people recycle their Thneeds; give them back when they don't need them anymore and use the material for old Thneeds to make new ones. Then he'd have another source of materials besides the trees.
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Think about it the Once-ler says "You don't have what it takes" to Ted when he first pauses the story and tells him to come back tommorrow maybe other kids have come to visit him but never come back after the first day. O'hare maybe found out about the visit and put a stop to [[NightmareFuel it.]] So the Once-ler thought the kids didn't care about the story so that's why he said that because he doesn't think Ted will come back.
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Think about it the Once-ler says "You don't have what it takes" to Ted when he first pauses the story and tells him to come back tommorrow tommorrow, maybe other kids have come to visit him but never come came back after the first day. O'hare O'Hare maybe found out about the visit visits and put a stop to [[NightmareFuel it.]] So the Once-ler thought the kids didn't care about the story so that's why he said that because he doesn't think Ted will come back.
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[[WMG: After the Lorax left, the Once-ler became (or at least thought of himself as) a WalkingWasteland.]]
That's why he needed to wait for Ted.
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** Isn't the whole point of CampStraight that he has all these traits but is still heterosexual? Also, how does the scene in which the animals invade his house indicate anything? I imagine most people, regardless of orientation, wouldn't exactly enjoy having a number of forest animals break into their home and empty their fridge during the night.
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** Isn't the whole point of CampStraight that he has all these traits but is still heterosexual? Not that there's any love interest, or really ''anything'' in the film to provide evidence of what he's sexually attracted to, so he's AmbiguouslyGay at best. Also, how does the scene in which the animals invade his house indicate anything? I imagine most people, regardless of orientation, wouldn't exactly enjoy having a number of forest animals break into their home and empty their fridge during the night.
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** Um, that's kind of ''the definition'' of CampStraight, or at least AmbiguouslyGay or something. Plus his mom may be disappointed in him only because she ''thinks'' he's gay because of his more feminine habits (Knitting, pink apron, etc.) Like you said, he was never given a love interest; he could be {{Asexual}} for all we know. Plus, how would the scene where the animals invade his house indicate anything? I think most people, regardless of orientation, would probably scream and freak out at finding a small, furry orange-man-thing with a huge mustache in thier bed and then try to get all the forest animals the Hell out of thier home. To my memory, there wasn't anything indicating of his orientation in there except that ''maybe'' he wasn't too thrilled at finding the Lorax in bed with him.
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** Um, that's kind Isn't the whole point of ''the definition'' of CampStraight, or at least AmbiguouslyGay or something. Plus his mom may be disappointed in him only because she ''thinks'' he's gay because of his more feminine habits (Knitting, pink apron, etc.) Like you said, CampStraight that he was never given a love interest; he could be {{Asexual}} for has all we know. Plus, these traits but is still heterosexual? Also, how would does the scene where in which the animals invade his house indicate anything? I think imagine most people, regardless of orientation, would probably scream and freak out at finding wouldn't exactly enjoy having a small, furry orange-man-thing with a huge mustache in thier bed and then try to get all the number of forest animals break into their home and empty their fridge during the Hell out of thier home. To my memory, there wasn't anything indicating of his orientation in there except that ''maybe'' he wasn't too thrilled at finding the Lorax in bed with him.
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[[WMG: How bad can the Onceler possibly be.]]
* Really bad, of course.
* Really bad, of course.
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[[WMG: How bad can the Onceler possibly be.]]
* Really bad, of course.
[[WMG: How bad can the Onceler possibly be.]]
* Really bad, of course.
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* She survived by faking senility - something she only stops doing when the only person around is Ted and all the windows are closed.
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* She survived by faking senility - something she only stops doing when the only person around is Ted and all the windows are closed.closed.
[[WMG: Everything is a historical analogy.]]
*The Thneedville Wall- Berlin Wall
*Knocking off the statue of O'Hare's head- Stalin or Lenin statues
*Kid with radiation- Chernobyl aftermath
*The creatures leaving(being sent away)- Trail of Tears
*Truffula tufts- Native Americans' land
[[WMG: Everything is a historical analogy.]]
*The Thneedville Wall- Berlin Wall
*Knocking off the statue of O'Hare's head- Stalin or Lenin statues
*Kid with radiation- Chernobyl aftermath
*The creatures leaving(being sent away)- Trail of Tears
*Truffula tufts- Native Americans' land
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Think about it the Once-ler says "You don't have what it takes" to Ted when he first pauses the story and tells him to come back tommorrow maybe other kids have come to visit him but never come back after the first day. O'hare maybe found out about the visit and put a stop to [[NightmareFuel it.]] So the Once-ler thought the kids didn't care about the story so that's why he said that because he doesn't think Ted will come back.
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Think about it the Once-ler says "You don't have what it takes" to Ted when he first pauses the story and tells him to come back tommorrow maybe other kids have come to visit him but never come back after the first day. O'hare maybe found out about the visit and put a stop to [[NightmareFuel it.]] So the Once-ler thought the kids didn't care about the story so that's why he said that because he doesn't think Ted will come back.back.
[[WMG: Grammy Norma is a survivor of some kind of covert purge of people who had seen actual trees.]]
* Grammy Norma and the Once-ler (who lives out of town) are the only people in the movie with gray hair.
* O'Hare has shown that he will do pretty much anything to keep his business running, and the movie handily demonstrates that people knowing that trees make clean air, or anything else about trees for that matter, is bad for his business, as when they're all ignorant, he can fool them that trees are bad.
* She survived by faking senility - something she only stops doing when the only person around is Ted and all the windows are closed.
[[WMG: Grammy Norma is a survivor of some kind of covert purge of people who had seen actual trees.]]
* Grammy Norma and the Once-ler (who lives out of town) are the only people in the movie with gray hair.
* O'Hare has shown that he will do pretty much anything to keep his business running, and the movie handily demonstrates that people knowing that trees make clean air, or anything else about trees for that matter, is bad for his business, as when they're all ignorant, he can fool them that trees are bad.
* She survived by faking senility - something she only stops doing when the only person around is Ted and all the windows are closed.
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* The problem with this is that you can't really make the Thneed really nature frienly. You could use the most environmental sound method in the world to harvest the tuft, make sure to replace every tree you may damage and use a totally carbon-neutral process to knit it, and it would still be a total waste of natural resources because it's a useless piece of junk that no one really needs and people buy only because of a fad. Remember "Reduce" (i.e don't use things you don't need) is the first of the three Rs.
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* The problem with this is that you can't really make the Thneed really nature frienly.friendly. You could use the most environmental sound method in the world to harvest the tuft, make sure to replace every tree you may damage and use a totally carbon-neutral process to knit it, and it would still be a total waste of natural resources because it's a useless piece of junk that no one really needs and people buy only because of a fad. Remember "Reduce" (i.e don't use things you don't need) is the first of the three Rs.
** Okay; well, he could still inherit the business but make things like actual clothes (which people do need to replace from time to time) from the tufts and foods from the Truffula Trees' fruits, hence having a business that's environment friendly.
** Okay; well, he could still inherit the business but make things like actual clothes (which people do need to replace from time to time) from the tufts and foods from the Truffula Trees' fruits, hence having a business that's environment friendly.
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* The problem with this is that you can't really make the Thneed really nature frienly. You could use the most environmental sound method in the world to harvest the tuft, make sure to replace every tree you may damage and use a totally carbon-neutral process to knit it, and it would still be a total waste of natural resources because it's a useless piece of junk that no one really needs and people buy only because of a fad. Remember "Reduce" (i.e don't use things you don't need) is the first of the three Rs.
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* Jossed, [[NeverTrustATrailer He Never Meets The Lorax]].
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*Jossed, [[NeverTrustATrailer He Never Meets The Lorax]].
*Jossed, [[NeverTrustATrailer He Never Meets The Lorax]].
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Whether the theory of Ted being Once-ler's grandson is true or not, it's clearly evident that they've grown closer, and I don't see why they wouldn't keep in touch after the movie and forge such a bond, since Ted's father is either dead or divorced from his mom. Once-ler still has money after his fall, and no doubt owns half of Thneedville's real estate, provided that he built it; If he wouldn't, how would he manage to live in exile for decades without paying his bills and getting food? He has no children (at least, none that he knows), presumably no living family and no friends to cut a share from his inheritance. It won't be too far off to assume that he'd leave it all (or a very large potion of it) to Ted. And it wouldn't be too far of a stretch that Ted, both realizing a good business opportunity and wanting to pay his respects to Once-ler, would rebuilt his Thneed empire, making sure to make it more nature friendly due to Once-ler's cautionary tale.
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Whether the theory of Ted being Once-ler's grandson is true or not, it's clearly evident that they've grown closer, and I don't see why they wouldn't keep in touch after the movie and forge such a bond, since Ted's father is either dead or divorced from his mom. Once-ler still has money after his fall, and no doubt owns half of Thneedville's real estate, provided that he built it; If he wouldn't, how would he manage to live in exile for decades without paying his bills and getting food? He has no children (at least, none that he knows), presumably no living family and no friends to cut a share from his inheritance. It won't be too far off to assume that he'd leave it all (or a very large potion of it) to Ted. And it wouldn't be too far of a stretch that Ted, both realizing a good business opportunity and wanting to pay his respects to Once-ler, would rebuilt his Thneed empire, making sure to make it more nature friendly due to Once-ler's cautionary tale.tale.
[[WMG: Ted isn't the first person to visit the Once-ler]]
Think about it the Once-ler says "You don't have what it takes" to Ted when he first pauses the story and tells him to come back tommorrow maybe other kids have come to visit him but never come back after the first day. O'hare maybe found out about the visit and put a stop to [[NightmareFuel it.]] So the Once-ler thought the kids didn't care about the story so that's why he said that because he doesn't think Ted will come back.
[[WMG: Ted isn't the first person to visit the Once-ler]]
Think about it the Once-ler says "You don't have what it takes" to Ted when he first pauses the story and tells him to come back tommorrow maybe other kids have come to visit him but never come back after the first day. O'hare maybe found out about the visit and put a stop to [[NightmareFuel it.]] So the Once-ler thought the kids didn't care about the story so that's why he said that because he doesn't think Ted will come back.
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Think about it, he did care about the tree's and animals before his mom pressured him into cutting them down, When he first arrived to the Truffula Forrest he was amazed at the beauty of it, but when his family arrived the first thing Aunt Grizzelda said was "What a dump" they weren't amazed by the beauty they thought it was garbage.
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Think about it, he did care about the tree's and animals before his mom pressured him into cutting them down, When he first arrived to the Truffula Forrest he was amazed at the beauty of it, but when his family arrived the first thing Aunt Grizzelda said was "What a dump" they weren't amazed by the beauty they thought it was garbage.garbage.
[[WMG: Ted will inherit Once-ler's fortune and re-invent the Thneed]]
Whether the theory of Ted being Once-ler's grandson is true or not, it's clearly evident that they've grown closer, and I don't see why they wouldn't keep in touch after the movie and forge such a bond, since Ted's father is either dead or divorced from his mom. Once-ler still has money after his fall, and no doubt owns half of Thneedville's real estate, provided that he built it; If he wouldn't, how would he manage to live in exile for decades without paying his bills and getting food? He has no children (at least, none that he knows), presumably no living family and no friends to cut a share from his inheritance. It won't be too far off to assume that he'd leave it all (or a very large potion of it) to Ted. And it wouldn't be too far of a stretch that Ted, both realizing a good business opportunity and wanting to pay his respects to Once-ler, would rebuilt his Thneed empire, making sure to make it more nature friendly due to Once-ler's cautionary tale.
[[WMG: Ted will inherit Once-ler's fortune and re-invent the Thneed]]
Whether the theory of Ted being Once-ler's grandson is true or not, it's clearly evident that they've grown closer, and I don't see why they wouldn't keep in touch after the movie and forge such a bond, since Ted's father is either dead or divorced from his mom. Once-ler still has money after his fall, and no doubt owns half of Thneedville's real estate, provided that he built it; If he wouldn't, how would he manage to live in exile for decades without paying his bills and getting food? He has no children (at least, none that he knows), presumably no living family and no friends to cut a share from his inheritance. It won't be too far off to assume that he'd leave it all (or a very large potion of it) to Ted. And it wouldn't be too far of a stretch that Ted, both realizing a good business opportunity and wanting to pay his respects to Once-ler, would rebuilt his Thneed empire, making sure to make it more nature friendly due to Once-ler's cautionary tale.
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Here's another theory that the fandom has pondered over. The Lorax is tied to the Truffula Valley as its guardian, so it would make sense that he's a personification of the trees since he speaks on their behalf. When the Once-ler cuts down the trees, the reason that Lorax's so upset is that it doesn't just affect the ecosystem and the animals, but [[spoiler: it affects him as well.]] Finally, as the last tree falls, he lifts himself up [[spoiler: and dies]] As Ted plants the final seed and trees come back, [[spoiler: The Lorax is reborn.]]
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Here's another theory that the fandom has pondered over. The Lorax is tied to the Truffula Valley as its guardian, so it would make sense that he's a personification of the trees since he speaks on their behalf. When the Once-ler cuts down the trees, the reason that Lorax's so upset is that it doesn't just affect the ecosystem and the animals, but [[spoiler: it affects him as well.]] Finally, as the last tree falls, he lifts himself up [[spoiler: and dies]] As Ted plants the final seed and trees come back, [[spoiler: The Lorax is reborn.]]]]
[[WMG: The Once-ler became "Corrupted" because of his mom]]
Think about it, he did care about the tree's and animals before his mom pressured him into cutting them down, When he first arrived to the Truffula Forrest he was amazed at the beauty of it, but when his family arrived the first thing Aunt Grizzelda said was "What a dump" they weren't amazed by the beauty they thought it was garbage.
[[WMG: The Once-ler became "Corrupted" because of his mom]]
Think about it, he did care about the tree's and animals before his mom pressured him into cutting them down, When he first arrived to the Truffula Forrest he was amazed at the beauty of it, but when his family arrived the first thing Aunt Grizzelda said was "What a dump" they weren't amazed by the beauty they thought it was garbage.
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Never, ever, EVER play in refrigerators, kids. [[AndKnowingIsHalfTheBattle Now you know]].
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Never, ever, EVER play in refrigerators, kids. [[AndKnowingIsHalfTheBattle Now you know]].know]].
[[WMG: When Once-ler chops down the Truffula Trees, [[spoiler: he inadvertently kills the Lorax]] ]]
Here's another theory that the fandom has pondered over. The Lorax is tied to the Truffula Valley as its guardian, so it would make sense that he's a personification of the trees since he speaks on their behalf. When the Once-ler cuts down the trees, the reason that Lorax's so upset is that it doesn't just affect the ecosystem and the animals, but [[spoiler: it affects him as well.]] Finally, as the last tree falls, he lifts himself up [[spoiler: and dies]] As Ted plants the final seed and trees come back, [[spoiler: The Lorax is reborn.]]
[[WMG: When Once-ler chops down the Truffula Trees, [[spoiler: he inadvertently kills the Lorax]] ]]
Here's another theory that the fandom has pondered over. The Lorax is tied to the Truffula Valley as its guardian, so it would make sense that he's a personification of the trees since he speaks on their behalf. When the Once-ler cuts down the trees, the reason that Lorax's so upset is that it doesn't just affect the ecosystem and the animals, but [[spoiler: it affects him as well.]] Finally, as the last tree falls, he lifts himself up [[spoiler: and dies]] As Ted plants the final seed and trees come back, [[spoiler: The Lorax is reborn.]]
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*** By that point, Thneedville was a fortress designed to not let anyone in or out without permission. Even if Norma would've been able to find the secret door, there isn't any indication she would've been able to make the trip at her age, given that the outskirts of the city are a polluted, toxic wasteland. And if she would've been able to reach Once-ler's house, the odds that he'd abandon his self-imposed exile and return to Thneedville with her are from slim to none. It would be more simple to send Ted, since he's younger and has a scooter, and as far as she knew, there wasn't anything wrong in venturing outside, since she didn't know about O'Hare's intentions to keep the city in lockdown - even if it would've required brute force and violence.
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[[WMG: The bear laying on the shelf of the refrigerator (as the Lorax closes it) with his tongue half out was ''dead''.]]
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[[WMG: The bear laying on the door shelf of the refrigerator (as the Lorax closes it) with his tongue half out was ''dead''.]]
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Looking at the Truffula tree in the film, you can see it's stringy - just like the memory tree in ''Avatar''. They have a force protecting them, and their removal removes the "spirit" from the land.
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Looking at the Truffula tree in the film, you can see it's stringy - just like the memory tree in ''Avatar''. They have a force protecting them, and their removal removes the "spirit" from the land.land.
[[WMG: The bear laying on the shelf of the refrigerator (as the Lorax closes it) with his tongue half out was ''dead''.]]
Never, ever, EVER play in refrigerators, kids. [[AndKnowingIsHalfTheBattle Now you know]].
[[WMG: The bear laying on the shelf of the refrigerator (as the Lorax closes it) with his tongue half out was ''dead''.]]
Never, ever, EVER play in refrigerators, kids. [[AndKnowingIsHalfTheBattle Now you know]].
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Already-existing source of running water. The cliff assured the town was built level and there was plenty of room to build in underground without having to dig.
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Already-existing source of running water. The cliff assured the town was built level and there was plenty of room to build in underground without having to dig.dig.
[[WMG: Truffula Trees form a planetwide consciousness, just like Eywa in ''Film/{{Avatar}}''.]]
Looking at the Truffula tree in the film, you can see it's stringy - just like the memory tree in ''Avatar''. They have a force protecting them, and their removal removes the "spirit" from the land.
[[WMG: Truffula Trees form a planetwide consciousness, just like Eywa in ''Film/{{Avatar}}''.]]
Looking at the Truffula tree in the film, you can see it's stringy - just like the memory tree in ''Avatar''. They have a force protecting them, and their removal removes the "spirit" from the land.