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** The physical differences could be a case of BizarreSexualDimorphism

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** The physical differences could be a case of BizarreSexualDimorphismBizarreSexualDimorphism

[[WMG: Thneedville was built where the waterfall came down.]]
Already-existing source of running water. The cliff assured the town was built level and there was plenty of room to build in underground without having to dig.
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* If that's the case, poor Ted will be friendzoned forever: not only is he of another species, Audrey's also really a male (although we could argue whether that means anything for Loraxes), Ted's also way way younger than "she" AND he lacks the 'tache.

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* If that's the case, poor Ted will be friendzoned forever: not only is he of another species, Audrey's also really a male (although we could argue whether that means anything for Loraxes), Ted's also way way younger than "she" AND he lacks the 'tache.'tache.
* Alternetivly she is A Lorax but not The Lorax.
** The physical differences could be a case of BizarreSexualDimorphism
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* Once they're both over 20 the age difference will matter not a bit. Provided she can see him as a potential love interest and not just a little brother.




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** Yeah, O'Hare could claim with a straight face that "photosynthesis" was something Audrey had come up with herself and no one argued.

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* Further proof: his moves in the beginning of How Bad Can I Be. Especially the one when he's facing the same way as the audience, if you get what I mean.



Well, she has orange hair, green eyes. She adores trees and would do anything to get to see one. She more or less speaks for trees and she knows exactly what they look like.

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Well, she has orange hair, green eyes. She adores trees and would do anything to get to see one. She more or less speaks for trees and she knows exactly what they look like.like.
* If that's the case, poor Ted will be friendzoned forever: not only is he of another species, Audrey's also really a male (although we could argue whether that means anything for Loraxes), Ted's also way way younger than "she" AND he lacks the 'tache.
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** There's also option two; they are her children, either Once-ler's dad died or his mom just betrayed his dad with his uncle; making Brett and Chet his half-brothers.

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**I think what the OP means is that baby bar-ba-loots are called "puppies" instead of "cubs." Like how baby skunks are "kittens." That particular one is named Pipsqueak, but he's a puppy. Like how you can name your pet cat Fluffy but it's still a kitten if it's young enough.
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[[WMG: Audrey is the Lorax.]]
Well, she has orange hair, green eyes. She adores trees and would do anything to get to see one. She more or less speaks for trees and she knows exactly what they look like.
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** But if she wanted him to meet his grandfather, why didn't she go out herself to bring him into Thneedville? Why have Ted do it?
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* I believe he's referred to as Pipsqueak twice.

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* I believe he's referred to as Pipsqueak twice.twice.

[[WMG: Audrey is related to the Once-ler.]]
She has long legs, a lanky physique, and freckles, all like the Once-ler. Her red hair, however, comes from his mother's side of the family; The Once-ler's mother has blonde hair, and Grizzelda, his aunt, has red, which is a mutation of the blonde gene.
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[[WMG: The people from the animated adaptation were wearing protective suits.]]
Since they seem to have a habit of heavily polluting wherever they go.

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* [[http://thesassylorax.tumblr.com/post/20114630454/just-one-little-moment-i-caught-then-snowballed-over As TheSassyLorax points out]], if Grammy Norma is old enough to remember when there were trees everywhere, why doesn't she simply tell Ted what happened to them? Why send him off into the dangerous wastelands outside of town? Unless she had another reason, such as sending him to meet his grandfather...
* On an interesting side note, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bqQGvOzS2Rc Betty White]] [[WordofDante supports Norma/Once-ler]]
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*The younger Once-ler had noticeable freckles. Ted's Grandma doesn't, but Ted's mother and Ted himself both have freckles as well.
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Thus explaining "Just look at me petting this puppy."

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Thus explaining "Just look at me petting this puppy.""
* I believe he's referred to as Pipsqueak twice.
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** Can't it be both?

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The animators obviously put in a lot of specific non-sexual kinks into the character that give his movements and design a really really slight but still present sexual turn to them. For example, his regular suit and green suit: both have a very obvious, to those who are familiar with it, suit fetish. From the plain vest/dress shirt/trilby combo to the full on tailcoat, which is very very popular with suit fetishists and the care given with the way the coat moved. Also, his posing and movements also have enough attention and affection in them to make him likable despite destroying the environment and being the bad guy. The camera angles that make him menacing, combined with his lankiness is enough to give him a really really appealing look to him. His nice movements are very smooth and relatable when he does anything silly or sad, looking often like a kicked puppy or a happy puppy, but he gets very adult and authoritative when he goes into megalomaniac Once-ler. This is why the Lorax fandom even exists; because the Once-ler's creators made him sexually appealing and the audience is picking up on it.

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The animators obviously put in a lot of specific non-sexual kinks into the character that give his movements and design a really really slight but still present sexual turn to them. For example, his regular suit and green suit: both have a very obvious, to those who are familiar with it, suit fetish. From the plain vest/dress shirt/trilby combo to the full on tailcoat, which is very very popular with suit fetishists and the care given with the way the coat moved. Also, his posing and movements also have enough attention and affection in them to make him likable despite destroying the environment and being the bad guy. The camera angles that make him menacing, combined with his lankiness is enough to give him a really really appealing look to him. His nice movements are very smooth and relatable when he does anything silly or sad, looking often like a kicked puppy or a happy puppy, but he gets very adult and authoritative when he goes into megalomaniac Once-ler. This is why the Lorax fandom Once-ler fandom-within-a-fandom even exists; because the Once-ler's creators made him sexually appealing and the audience is picking up on it.it.
* Are you sure you're not one of those crazy Once-ler fangirls?
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She mentions being around the see the trees, and it seems like the only people who spent any time in the forest were the Once-ler, his family, and the mob of people wanting to buy thneeds.

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She mentions being around the see the trees, and it seems like the only people who spent any time in the forest were the Once-ler, his family, and the mob of people wanting to buy thneeds.thneeds.
[[WMG: The proper name for a baby bar-ba-loot is puppy.]]
Thus explaining "Just look at me petting this puppy."
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[[WMG: Ted's grandma was the girl to recieve the first thneed.]]

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[[WMG: [[CoolOldLady Ted's grandma grandma]] was the girl to recieve the first thneed.]]
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The animators obviously put in a lot of specific non-sexual kinks into the character that give his movements and design a really really slight but still present sexual turn to them. For example, his regular suit and green suit: both have a very obvious, to those who are familiar with it, suit fetish. From the plain vest/dress shirt/trilby combo to the full on tailcoat, which is very very popular with suit fetishists and the care given with the way the coat moved. Also, his posing and movements also have enough attention and affection in them to make him likable despite destroying the environment and being the bad guy. The camera angles that make him menacing, combined with his lankiness is enough to give him a really really appealing look to him. His nice movements are very smooth and relatable when he does anything silly or sad, looking often like a kicked puppy or a happy puppy, but he gets very adult and authoritative when he goes into megalomaniac Once-ler. This is why the Lorax fandom even exists; because the Once-ler's creators made him sexually appealing and the audience is picking up on it.

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The animators obviously put in a lot of specific non-sexual kinks into the character that give his movements and design a really really slight but still present sexual turn to them. For example, his regular suit and green suit: both have a very obvious, to those who are familiar with it, suit fetish. From the plain vest/dress shirt/trilby combo to the full on tailcoat, which is very very popular with suit fetishists and the care given with the way the coat moved. Also, his posing and movements also have enough attention and affection in them to make him likable despite destroying the environment and being the bad guy. The camera angles that make him menacing, combined with his lankiness is enough to give him a really really appealing look to him. His nice movements are very smooth and relatable when he does anything silly or sad, looking often like a kicked puppy or a happy puppy, but he gets very adult and authoritative when he goes into megalomaniac Once-ler. This is why the Lorax fandom even exists; because the Once-ler's creators made him sexually appealing and the audience is picking up on it.it.
[[WMG: Ted's grandma was the girl to recieve the first thneed.]]
She mentions being around the see the trees, and it seems like the only people who spent any time in the forest were the Once-ler, his family, and the mob of people wanting to buy thneeds.
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* Yeah, while I was watching my guess was that they were his cousins, until Once-Ler's mother declared that Brett was her new favorite child. Then again, maybe that makes the sting worse: she's picking her nephew over her own son.
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** It does make sense for him to grey prematurely, between the pollution and his guilt.
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[[WMG:The moral of the lorax is also the same one as "ThePrincessandTheFrog"]]

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[[WMG:The moral of the lorax is also the same one as "ThePrincessandTheFrog"]]"ThePrincessAndTheFrog"]]
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Since they seem to have a habit of heavily polluting wherever they go.

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Since they seem to have a habit of heavily polluting wherever they go.go.

[[WMG: The people who made Once-ler's character design from the animated were sexually attracted to him.]]
The animators obviously put in a lot of specific non-sexual kinks into the character that give his movements and design a really really slight but still present sexual turn to them. For example, his regular suit and green suit: both have a very obvious, to those who are familiar with it, suit fetish. From the plain vest/dress shirt/trilby combo to the full on tailcoat, which is very very popular with suit fetishists and the care given with the way the coat moved. Also, his posing and movements also have enough attention and affection in them to make him likable despite destroying the environment and being the bad guy. The camera angles that make him menacing, combined with his lankiness is enough to give him a really really appealing look to him. His nice movements are very smooth and relatable when he does anything silly or sad, looking often like a kicked puppy or a happy puppy, but he gets very adult and authoritative when he goes into megalomaniac Once-ler. This is why the Lorax fandom even exists; because the Once-ler's creators made him sexually appealing and the audience is picking up on it.
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About needing instead of wanting, Once-ler wanted his family's love and his success, what he **needed was to take care of the environment...unfortunately he learns that on late, and Ted wanted Audrey as his girlfriend what he needed was to care about the trees, only when they get taken "Part of the way."do they get what they need instead of what they want. Its how the Lorax's magic works, his magic can only take you part of the way, you have to find your own happily ever after.

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About needing instead of wanting, Once-ler wanted his family's love and his success, what he **needed was to take care of the environment...unfortunately he learns that on late, and Ted wanted Audrey as his girlfriend what he needed was to care about the trees, only when they get taken "Part of the way."do they get what they need instead of what they want. Its how the Lorax's magic works, his magic can only take you part of the way, you have to find your own happily ever after.after.

[[WMG: The people from the animated adaptation were wearing protective suits.]]
Since they seem to have a habit of heavily polluting wherever they go.
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[[WMG:The moral of the lorax is also the same one as "ThePrincessandTheFrog"]]
About needing instead of wanting, Once-ler wanted his family's love and his success, what he **needed was to take care of the environment...unfortunately he learns that on late, and Ted wanted Audrey as his girlfriend what he needed was to care about the trees, only when they get taken "Part of the way."do they get what they need instead of what they want. Its how the Lorax's magic works, his magic can only take you part of the way, you have to find your own happily ever after.
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** Um, that's kind of ''the definition'' of CampStraight, or at least AmbiguouslyGay or something. Plus his mom may be disappointed in him only because she ''thinks'' he's gay because of his more feminine habits (Knitting, pink apron, etc.) Like you said, he was never given a love interest; he could be {{Asexual}} or {{Robosexual}} for all we know. Plus, how would the scene where the animals invade his house indicate anything? I think most people, regardless of orientation, would probably scream and freak out at finding a small, furry orange-man-thing with a huge mustache in thier bed and then try to get all the forest animals the Hell out of thier home. To my memory, there wasn't anything indicating of his orientation in there except that ''maybe'' he wasn't too thrilled at finding the Lorax in bed with him.

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** Um, that's kind of ''the definition'' of CampStraight, or at least AmbiguouslyGay or something. Plus his mom may be disappointed in him only because she ''thinks'' he's gay because of his more feminine habits (Knitting, pink apron, etc.) Like you said, he was never given a love interest; he could be {{Asexual}} or {{Robosexual}} for all we know. Plus, how would the scene where the animals invade his house indicate anything? I think most people, regardless of orientation, would probably scream and freak out at finding a small, furry orange-man-thing with a huge mustache in thier bed and then try to get all the forest animals the Hell out of thier home. To my memory, there wasn't anything indicating of his orientation in there except that ''maybe'' he wasn't too thrilled at finding the Lorax in bed with him.
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**Um, that's kind of ''the definition'' of CampStraight, or at least AmbiguouslyGay or something. Plus his mom may be disappointed in him only because she ''thinks'' he's gay because of his more feminine habits (Knitting, pink apron, etc.) Like you said, he was never given a love interest; he could be {{Asexual}} or {{Robosexual}} for all we know. Plus, how would the scene where the animals invade his house indicate anything? I think most people, regardless of orientation, would probably scream and freak out at finding a small, furry orange-man-thing with a huge mustache in thier bed and then try to get all the forest animals the Hell out of thier home. To my memory, there wasn't anything indicating of his orientation in there except that ''maybe'' he wasn't too thrilled at finding the Lorax in bed with him.

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[[WMG: O'Hare's goons are Bret and Chet]]

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[[WMG: O'Hare's goons are Bret Brett and Chet]]Chet]]
** Highly unlikely, unless they changed their names. Their names are given as Marty and McGurk.
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[[WMG: O'Hare's goons are Bret and Chet]]
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* He may actually not be that old. He was probably in his early 20s when the events of the Flashback took place, and the film shows O'Hare looking roughly the same as he did when the Onceler's factory went under. That would seem to indicate that only 25-30 years max have passed since then, which would make the Onceler roughly 50, and prematurely gray.
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[[WMG: The Once-ler isn't camp strait]]

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[[WMG: The Once-ler isn't camp strait]]CampStraight.]]

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