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21st Sep '16 5:03:51 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Fi is [[BatenKaitos Fee]]]]

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[[WMG: Fi is [[BatenKaitos [[VideoGame/BatenKaitos Fee]]]]
17th Jul '16 1:25:31 PM Jallen
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* Almost straight after worrying about the strain of carrying two people on her Loftwing she suddenly jumps on-top of Link's with no regard for the bird.
2nd Dec '15 10:46:53 AM dreamofwritting
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** [[TwoWordsObviousTrope Two Words:]] ColonyDrop.

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** [[TwoWordsObviousTrope Two Words:]] Words: ColonyDrop.
10th Nov '15 9:36:44 AM Sammettik
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** Wrong-o. HH only said they were based on the Zora, not related to them.
29th Oct '15 3:47:48 PM LEDbullet
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He is described as a demon by Fi and himself, which implies that he originated from the same world as Demise. In the introduction, one of the demons with Demise is depicted having two horns, like Batreux. He may have been a high ranking demon that stowed away on Skyloft in order to escape the sealing, but was more of an AntiVillain compared to the rest of the demons, so Hylia turned a blind eye to him.

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He is described as a demon by Fi and himself, which implies that he originated from the same world as Demise. In the introduction, one of the demons with Demise is depicted having two horns, like Batreux. He may have been a high ranking demon that stowed away on Skyloft in order to escape the sealing, but was more of an AntiVillain compared to the rest of the demons, so Hylia turned a blind eye to him.him.

[[WMG: Demise and His Demons Surfaced Originally From Death Mountain]]
The ancient story regarding the battle that saw Skyloft get lifted states that all was fine in the surface world until a great crack in the Earth opened up and monsters came forth. although there appear to be many deep voids in Hyrule, most of them all lead to rivers. However, Death Mountain's black chasms are still open to interpretation, and would explain why Ganon reigns from there in earlier games: A sensed connection with it.
23rd Oct '15 5:48:21 PM nombretomado
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** That outfit (at least in SkywardSword) is supposed to be the Skyloft Knight academy outfit in Link's year's color. For example, you meet a character who is stated to have graduated last year, with the same outfit... but in yellow.

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** That outfit (at least in SkywardSword) ''Skyward Sword'') is supposed to be the Skyloft Knight academy outfit in Link's year's color. For example, you meet a character who is stated to have graduated last year, with the same outfit... but in yellow.



* [[MoneySpider Fee]], [[SkywardSword Fi]], [[FoeYay Foe]], [[Literature/JackAndTheBeanstalk Fum]]...

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* [[MoneySpider Fee]], [[SkywardSword [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Fi]], [[FoeYay Foe]], [[Literature/JackAndTheBeanstalk Fum]]...
23rd Oct '15 5:26:01 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: [[TheLegendOfZeldaSpiritTracks Malladus]] is Demise]]

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[[WMG: [[TheLegendOfZeldaSpiritTracks [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSpiritTracks Malladus]] is Demise]]



* [[TheLegendOfZeldaSpiritTracks And]] [[EvilChancellor Chancellor]] [[PunnyName Cole]] is his descendant.

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* [[TheLegendOfZeldaSpiritTracks [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSpiritTracks And]] [[EvilChancellor Chancellor]] [[PunnyName Cole]] is his descendant.



For one thing, their themes sound surprisingly similar. Also, it seems that Groose has become one of the closest friends Link and Zelda have apart from each other; his descendents probably were among the royal attendants who are implied to be the predecessors of Tetra's crew.
* Gonzo is probably the most likely of the bunch to be his descendant; it certainly would create a nice thematic and familial connection between Groose and his Groosenator and [[SpiritTracks Alfonzo]] and his train.

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For one thing, their themes sound surprisingly similar. Also, it seems that Groose has become one of the closest friends Link and Zelda have apart from each other; his descendents descendants probably were among the royal attendants who are implied to be the predecessors of Tetra's crew.
* Gonzo is probably the most likely of the bunch to be his descendant; it certainly would create a nice thematic and familial connection between Groose and his Groosenator and [[SpiritTracks [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSpiritTracks Alfonzo]] and his train.
23rd Oct '15 5:11:52 PM nombretomado
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* What about the Phantom Sword from PhantomHourglass?

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* What about the Phantom Sword from PhantomHourglass?''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaPhantomHourglass Phantom Hourglass]]''?



[[WMG: SkywardSword split the timeline. Again.]]

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[[WMG: SkywardSword ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]]'' split the timeline. Again.]]
23rd Oct '15 4:56:35 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Hylia's power is the [[TheMinishCap Light Force.]]]]
The Legend in TheMinishCap was inaccurate. The Minish didn't bring the Light Force; they made the Hylians aware of Zelda's sacred abilities, which also explains why Ezlo, a ''sage'' of the Minish, didn't even know what exactly it was. The rest is self-explanatory.

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[[WMG: Hylia's power is the [[TheMinishCap [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheMinishCap Light Force.]]]]
The Legend in TheMinishCap ''The Minish Cap'' was inaccurate. The Minish didn't bring the Light Force; they made the Hylians aware of Zelda's sacred abilities, which also explains why Ezlo, a ''sage'' of the Minish, didn't even know what exactly it was. The rest is self-explanatory.
23rd Oct '15 4:10:01 PM nombretomado
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We didn't get the full backstory. In addition to Hylia, there were two other deities set to protect the Triforce. One embodied courage and one embodied power. The minor goddess of power's story was lost to history, but not completely: it is still known that she had red hair and golden eyes, and many desert civilizations worship her as the [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Desert Colossus]]. The minor god of courage's name was also lost to history. He is now known as the [[MajorasMask Fierce Deity]]. The Colossus was most likely one of the first divine casualties, but she managed to pass on some minuscule part of her into a human bloodline. This bloodline eventually bore Groose, then the Gerudo. The Fierce Deity's story, though, is more interesting. He was wounded, unprepared, by a sneak attack by the [[MadGod mad demon]] Majora and her high priest, known only by his rictus grin, chilling laugh, and ability to pull large musical instruments from the ether. Knowing that if he died, his power could be used by the demons, he asked Hylia for help. He needed some way to keep his power safe from the forces of evil without eradicating it altogether. Hylia, by this time, was already formulating a plan to become mortal and use the Triforce. She took out her harp and played the [[MajorasMask Song of Healing.]] The Fierce Deity's spirit -- the part that contained his power -- filtered into another human bloodline. His soul -- the part that made him who he was -- was sealed inside a mask, which eventually fell into Majora's hands, but could not be used to its full extent, as it did not contain the power. Link never remembers who he is because he does not have that soul, only the spirit, whereas [[spoiler:Zelda]] had both. [[spoiler:Zelda]] didn't tell him because that would be a stupid idea -- we've already seen [[EldritchAbomination what happens]] when a body of demonic origin attempts to form without its consciousness. The same situation, but of divine origin, would likely be worse. So when the Hero of Time put on that mask, he knew, just for a few minutes, what was really going on. It helps to explain why he looked how he did in [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]].

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We didn't get the full backstory. In addition to Hylia, there were two other deities set to protect the Triforce. One embodied courage and one embodied power. The minor goddess of power's story was lost to history, but not completely: it is still known that she had red hair and golden eyes, and many desert civilizations worship her as the [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Desert Colossus]]. The minor god of courage's name was also lost to history. He is now known as the [[MajorasMask [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Fierce Deity]]. The Colossus was most likely one of the first divine casualties, but she managed to pass on some minuscule part of her into a human bloodline. This bloodline eventually bore Groose, then the Gerudo. The Fierce Deity's story, though, is more interesting. He was wounded, unprepared, by a sneak attack by the [[MadGod mad demon]] Majora and her high priest, known only by his rictus grin, chilling laugh, and ability to pull large musical instruments from the ether. Knowing that if he died, his power could be used by the demons, he asked Hylia for help. He needed some way to keep his power safe from the forces of evil without eradicating it altogether. Hylia, by this time, was already formulating a plan to become mortal and use the Triforce. She took out her harp and played the [[MajorasMask [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Song of Healing.]] The Fierce Deity's spirit -- the part that contained his power -- filtered into another human bloodline. His soul -- the part that made him who he was -- was sealed inside a mask, which eventually fell into Majora's hands, but could not be used to its full extent, as it did not contain the power. Link never remembers who he is because he does not have that soul, only the spirit, whereas [[spoiler:Zelda]] had both. [[spoiler:Zelda]] didn't tell him because that would be a stupid idea -- we've already seen [[EldritchAbomination what happens]] when a body of demonic origin attempts to form without its consciousness. The same situation, but of divine origin, would likely be worse. So when the Hero of Time put on that mask, he knew, just for a few minutes, what was really going on. It helps to explain why he looked how he did in [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]].



** [[MadGod Majora]] said that. Besides, it all depends on how you define "evil." MajorasMask dealt with the theme of moral ambiguity a lot, especially towards the end.

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** [[MadGod Majora]] said that. Besides, it all depends on how you define "evil." MajorasMask ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]]'' dealt with the theme of moral ambiguity a lot, especially towards the end.



** Wait...[[TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask you don't mean...]]
** No, actually, this is confirmed. There is a prequel comic to Skyward Sword in Hyrule Historia. [[spoiler:There is a knight named Link who becomes Hylia's chosen hero; however, he dies before meeting Demise. After Hylia seals Demise away, she cries over Link's dead body, guilty that the human has been through so much suffering. But because of his courageous heart that fought to protect her people, she makes his spirit immortal, stating he will be able to be reborn time and time again, when her people will need their hero. And she, too, decides to shed her divinity to become a human when she is reborn; that way, she can be reborn time and time again, to help her hero protect her people that she loves so dearly.]]

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** Wait...[[TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask you don't mean...]]
** No, actually, this is confirmed. There is a prequel comic to Skyward Sword ''Skyward Sword'' in Hyrule Historia. [[spoiler:There is a knight named Link who becomes Hylia's chosen hero; however, he dies before meeting Demise. After Hylia seals Demise away, she cries over Link's dead body, guilty that the human has been through so much suffering. But because of his courageous heart that fought to protect her people, she makes his spirit immortal, stating he will be able to be reborn time and time again, when her people will need their hero. And she, too, decides to shed her divinity to become a human when she is reborn; that way, she can be reborn time and time again, to help her hero protect her people that she loves so dearly.]]



[[spoiler:Demise's]] curse specifically mentioned [[spoiler:the incarnation of his hatred]], but who's to say that was ''all'' that happened? The backstory of ''MajorasMask'' notes how alternate worlds such as Termina came into being when the Goddesses created Hyrule, and the residual bits and pieces slipped through the cracks of creation and coalesced into separate realms. So it's possible that [[spoiler:though Demise specifically created Ganon as the manifestation of his hatred, his death led to the birth of the ''other'' villains, in that his other attributes were given their own incarnations as well.]]

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[[spoiler:Demise's]] curse specifically mentioned [[spoiler:the incarnation of his hatred]], but who's to say that was ''all'' that happened? The backstory of ''MajorasMask'' ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]]'' notes how alternate worlds such as Termina came into being when the Goddesses created Hyrule, and the residual bits and pieces slipped through the cracks of creation and coalesced into separate realms. So it's possible that [[spoiler:though Demise specifically created Ganon as the manifestation of his hatred, his death led to the birth of the ''other'' villains, in that his other attributes were given their own incarnations as well.]]



After the Golden Goddesses left the world they had created, but long before the rise of Demise’s armies, several gods tried to seize the ultimate power. They would have used it to [[TakeOverTheWorld conquer]], [[OmnicidalManiac annihilate]], or [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans purify]] the heavens. One by one, they perished at the blade of Her Grace, the skilled guardian of the Triforce. However, and just like Demise would later promise an incarnation of his hatred, each passing god left a trace of its own. Ironically, one of Hylia’s opponents, known only as [[MajorasMask the Fierce Deity]], was the very source of the “spirit of the hero” the goddess would then manipulate into serving her plans.

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After the Golden Goddesses left the world they had created, but long before the rise of Demise’s armies, several gods tried to seize the ultimate power. They would have used it to [[TakeOverTheWorld conquer]], [[OmnicidalManiac annihilate]], or [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans purify]] the heavens. One by one, they perished at the blade of Her Grace, the skilled guardian of the Triforce. However, and just like Demise would later promise an incarnation of his hatred, each passing god left a trace of its own. Ironically, one of Hylia’s opponents, known only as [[MajorasMask [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask the Fierce Deity]], was the very source of the “spirit of the hero” the goddess would then manipulate into serving her plans.



* Addendum: Mattas was, like Hylia, a deity. [[MajorasMask A fierce deity.]]

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* Addendum: Mattas was, like Hylia, a deity. [[MajorasMask [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask A fierce deity.]]



[[WMG:Hylia is the [[TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Goddess of Time]]]]

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[[WMG:Hylia is the [[TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Goddess of Time]]]]
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