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** ne of the possible storylines could be him facing the ethical same choice like Joel killing the Fireflies at the end of ''I'' and [[spoiler: Ellie breaking the CycleOfRevenge at the end of ''II''.]]
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** ne One of the possible storylines could be him facing the ethical same choice like Joel killing the Fireflies at the end of ''I'' and [[spoiler: Ellie breaking the CycleOfRevenge at the end of ''II''.]]
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** Alternatively... well it could be more than just killing someone she cared about that Ellie is looking for revenge for, if you catch my meaning.
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** Alternatively... well it could be more than just killing someone she cared about that Ellie is looking for revenge for, for if you catch my meaning.
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* Hammer lady: She’s got a six pack but Emily says she’s gonna cut the demon out of her while pointing a knife at her stomach. Could be in early stages of pregnancy. Could also have happened in the time jumps.
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* Hammer lady: She’s got a six pack six-pack but Emily says she’s gonna cut the demon out of her while pointing a knife at her stomach. Could be in early stages of pregnancy. Could also have happened in the time jumps.
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** [[spoiler: Confirmed. The two had an argument prior to the start of the game, and Joel sings for her and gives her a guitar he made as an apology. The TearJerker comes in as Joel is murdered shortly afterwards.]]
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** [[spoiler: Confirmed. The two had an argument prior to the start of the game, and Joel sings for her and gives her a guitar he made as an apology. The TearJerker comes in as Joel is murdered shortly afterwards.afterward.]]
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The motivation behind the Seraphites' religious belief is that the ZombieApocalypse was an "act of God" to wipe out the evils of humanity and dramatically decrease overpopulation. The Seraphites thus consider themselves "continuing God's plan" by wiping out the humans they find "sinful" or "unworthy", effectively seeing themselves as the good guys by doing so. Said motivation would also serve as a frightening parallell to real-life extremist groups justifying their killings in similar manner...
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The motivation behind the Seraphites' religious belief is that the ZombieApocalypse was an "act of God" to wipe out the evils of humanity and dramatically decrease overpopulation. The Seraphites thus consider themselves "continuing God's plan" by wiping out the humans they find "sinful" or "unworthy", effectively seeing themselves as the good guys by doing so. Said motivation would also serve as a frightening parallell parallel to real-life extremist groups justifying their killings in similar manner...
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[[WMG: Ellie will be driven insane by her obsession with revenge / hatred of the CrapsackWorld she lives in so she can become the BigBad of the the final game in the franchise]]
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Arguably, Joel proved to be the BigBad at the end of the first game, because he choose to kill all the fireflies whom were trying to make a cure for the pandemic, with Ellie's permission. History will repeat itself. Players will be helping Ellie slaughter and kill their way through the game, thinking they are getting justice for Ellie because she had been wronged. However, a plot twist will reveal that Ellie's actions are [[DisproportionateRetribution far too extreme]], the people she is killing aren't so bad after all, and the main one causing all the conflict and violence the whole time, is Ellie herself. At this point, players might take control of another character, who wants revenge against Ellie, and kills her before the end credits, highlighting the brutal cycle of revenge.
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Arguably, Joel proved to be the BigBad at the end of the first game, because he choose chooses to kill all the fireflies whom who were trying to make a cure for the pandemic, with Ellie's permission. History will repeat itself. Players will be helping Ellie slaughter and kill their way through the game, thinking they are getting justice for Ellie because she had been wronged. However, a plot twist will reveal that Ellie's actions are [[DisproportionateRetribution far too extreme]], the people she is killing aren't so bad after all, and the main one causing all the conflict and violence the whole time, is Ellie herself. At this point, players might take control of another character, who wants revenge against Ellie, and kills her before the end credits, highlighting the brutal cycle of revenge.
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* While searching for the Fireflies in Santa Barbara, Abby comes across a working radio and gets into contact with someone. However, the person she talks to never actually says anything that verifies they're actually Fireflies, as it's Abby divulging all of the crucial information in the conversation. She's the one who tells them first that she's a Firefly and is looking for them, and more crucially, she tells them her exact location. In addition, the person on the other end doesn't warn her about the presence of the Rattlers, who appear to have been active in the area for quite a while. Meanwhile, the Rattlers are already waiting to ambush Abby and Lev the moment they leave the outpost, suggesting that the rumors of the Fireflies regrouping in Santa Barbara is simply a honey trap set up by the Rattlers to lure in victims they can capture.
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* While searching for the Fireflies in Santa Barbara, Abby comes across a working radio and gets into contact with someone. However, the person she talks to never actually says anything that verifies they're actually Fireflies, as it's Abby divulging all of the crucial information in the conversation. She's the one who tells them first that she's a Firefly and is looking for them, and more crucially, she tells them her exact location. In addition, the person on the other end doesn't warn her about the presence of the Rattlers, who appear to have been active in the area for quite a while. Meanwhile, the Rattlers are already waiting to ambush Abby and Lev the moment they leave the outpost, suggesting that the rumors of the Fireflies regrouping in Santa Barbara is are simply a honey trap set up by the Rattlers to lure in victims they can capture.
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[[WMG: The dlc will have Joel as the main protagonist]]
* It will start off with Joel and Tess before the events of the original game while halfway through a time skip will happen giving us Joel’s POV during the flashback sequences of the second game with some new events added.
* It will start off with Joel and Tess before the events of the original game while halfway through a time skip will happen giving us Joel’s POV during the flashback sequences of the second game with some new events added.
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* This seems likely to me. [[spoiler: Dina likely went back to Jackson, and once Ellie explains what happened with Abby and how she was able to let go, they have a good chance at reconciling. Especially since if you look in the art room at the farm house when you return at the end, you'll notice that unlike the other rooms that one is mostly intact save for Ellie's portrait of Dina on the easel which is missing. That tells you that Dina still has feelings for Ellie and has not completely given up on her yet.]]
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* This seems likely to me. [[spoiler: Dina likely went back to Jackson, and once Ellie explains what happened with Abby and how she was able to let go, they have a good chance at reconciling. Especially since if you look in the art room at the farm house farmhouse when you return at the end, you'll notice that unlike the other rooms that one is mostly intact save for Ellie's portrait of Dina on the easel which is missing. That tells you that Dina still has feelings for Ellie and has not completely given up on her yet.]]
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** Personally, I find it unlikely Naughty Dog would kill off Ellie so unceremoniously, [[spoiler:considering the backlash over Joel's death. And while the ending is anything but uplifting, Ellie is shown walking off rather than breaking down into tears, which implies she'll soldier on]]. But it's gritty, cruel and emotional, which is the direction TLOU is taking.
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** Personally, I find it unlikely Naughty Dog would kill off Ellie so unceremoniously, [[spoiler:considering the backlash over Joel's death. And while the ending is anything but uplifting, Ellie is shown walking off rather than breaking down into tears, which implies she'll soldier on]]. But it's gritty, cruel cruel, and emotional, which is the direction TLOU is taking.
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** [[spoiler: One of the possible story lines could be him facing the ethical same choice like Joel killing the Fireflies at the oend of ''I'' and [[spoiler: Ellie breaking the CycleOfRevenge at the end of ''II''.]]
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[[WMG: Tommy will be the main atagionist]]
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* There's been sepeculation that Abby and/or Lev will be the main protagionists to ''Part III'', so it only makes sense that he, unlike Ellie, will attempt to seek out his own vengence especially as he lost his eye, use of his leg, '''and''' his marriage in a fruitless endevar for revenge.
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* Its revealed during one of the flashbacks that the Infected have begun to travel in herds and follow migration seasons like animals as opposed to mindless killing machines they were in the first game. It may turn into something similar to ''Literature/IAmLegend'' [[note]]The novel not the movies[[/note]] where there's the mindless infected and there are a group of intelligent ones who have begun to cobale together their own society and culture.
** Its possible that they'll also display some type of control over the mindless infected who will act as footsoldiers for the stronger more intelligent Infected.
** Its possible that they'll also display some type of control over the mindless infected who will act as footsoldiers for the stronger more intelligent Infected.
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[[WMG: A central theme in '’Part III'' will be identity and Lev will be the Protagonist]]
* [[spoiler: As a trans-man, Lev is the perfect person for this theme along with being a FishOutOfWater thanks to being a Seraphite/Scar now traveling through "the Old World" with Abby.]]
* [[spoiler: As a trans-man, Lev is the perfect person for this theme along with being a FishOutOfWater thanks to being a Seraphite/Scar now traveling through "the Old World" with Abby.]]
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[[WMG: The protagonist of ''Part III'' will be a black man/boy]]
* Just spit-balling honestly. Bonus points for a native African dude.
** Regardless of their race I’d imagine the next protagonist could end up becoming a darker, grittier reflection of Joel’s violent tendencies in the first game as an elaborate slap on the face to the fans
mad about his treatment in this game.
* Just spit-balling honestly. Bonus points for a native African dude.
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* I think the real reason Ellie is at the farmhouse is to finally lay her memories with Joel and her past to rest. Which is why she recollects her “forgiveness” memory with Joel.
* I think the real reason Ellie is at the farmhouse is to finally lay her memories with Joel and her past to rest. Which is why she recollects her “forgiveness” memory with Joel.
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Regardless of their race I’d imagine the next protagonist could end up becoming a darker, grittier reflection of Joel’s violent tendencies in the first game as an elaborate slap on the face to the fans
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** Regardless of their race I’d imagine the next protagonist could end up becoming a darker, grittier reflection of Joel’s violent tendencies in the first game as an elaborate slap on the face to the fans
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While searching for the Fireflies in Santa Barbara, Abby comes across a working radio and gets into contact with someone. However, the person she talks to never actually says anything that verifies they're actually Fireflies, as it's Abby divulging all of the crucial information in the conversation. She's the one who tells them first that she's a Firefly and is looking for them, and more crucially, she tells them her exact location. In addition, the person on the other end doesn't warn her about the presence of the Rattlers, who appear to have been active in the area for quite a while. Meanwhile, the Rattlers are already waiting to ambush Abby and Lev the moment they leave the outpost, suggesting that the rumors of the Fireflies regrouping in Santa Barbara is simply a honey trap set up by the Rattlers to lure in victims they can capture.
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* While searching for the Fireflies in Santa Barbara, Abby comes across a working radio and gets into contact with someone. However, the person she talks to never actually says anything that verifies they're actually Fireflies, as it's Abby divulging all of the crucial information in the conversation. She's the one who tells them first that she's a Firefly and is looking for them, and more crucially, she tells them her exact location. In addition, the person on the other end doesn't warn her about the presence of the Rattlers, who appear to have been active in the area for quite a while. Meanwhile, the Rattlers are already waiting to ambush Abby and Lev the moment they leave the outpost, suggesting that the rumors of the Fireflies regrouping in Santa Barbara is simply a honey trap set up by the Rattlers to lure in victims they can capture.
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Like the past couple of major [=NaughtyDog=] releases, this game will also have a DLC released in a future date. The additional content will mainly detail how Abby and Lev arrive on the Island where the Fireflies are possibly rebuilding, only to discover dangers they must overcome. At the same time, Ellie's fate will be shown either during the campaign or at the end setting up how the story for the final game will possibly go. [[spoiler: One give away is the title screen showing the Island after beating the game.]]
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* Like the past couple of major [=NaughtyDog=] releases, this game will also have a DLC released in a future date. The additional content will mainly detail how Abby and Lev arrive on the Island where the Fireflies are possibly rebuilding, only to discover dangers they must overcome. At the same time, Ellie's fate will be shown either during the campaign or at the end setting up how the story for the final game will possibly go. [[spoiler: One give away is the title screen showing the Island after beating the game.]]
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It will start off with Joel and Tess before the events of the original game while halfway through a time skip will happen giving us Joel’s POV during the flashback sequences of the second game with some new events added.
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** Alternatively it could be about Ellie post-game and her RedemptionArc ending with reuniting with Dina and J.J.
** Alternatively it could be about Ellie post-game and her RedemptionArc ending with reuniting with Dina and J.J.
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Ellie was devastated when she learned the truth from Joel about what actually happened in Salt Lake City. The thought of her immunity having the potential to cure the Cordyceps outbreak is likely heavy on her mind and if ''Part III'' serves as the series' GrandFinale, it's likely its plot will conclude with her entering another hospital, this time undergoing the surgery that will lead to the outbreak's cure.
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* Ellie was devastated when she learned the truth from Joel about what actually happened in Salt Lake City. The thought of her immunity having the potential to cure the Cordyceps outbreak is likely heavy on her mind and if ''Part III'' serves as the series' GrandFinale, it's likely its plot will conclude with her entering another hospital, this time undergoing the surgery that will lead to the outbreak's cure.
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As ''Part II'' focused on her fall from grace, Ellie will redeem herself through either one of the two above WMGs, depending on how the developers want to end things for Ellie.
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* Though this would require one hell of a TimeSkip, the game could be about his years as a teenager facing a world where humanity is almost completely gone and learning of Ellie's immunity will go look for her. The subsequent journey will play out like her and Joel's story. It can even be revealed that Dina told him stories about her in the faint hope she'll come back someday.
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[[spoiler:A shot of Catalina Island is shown in the opening screen after beating the game, meaning Abby and Lev were able to get there after escaping Santa Barbara. The Fireflies are regrouping and rebuilding, and it is very likely they will send Abby and Lev to conduct operations on the mainland. What their mission is and what their interactions with established and new characters will be like are yet to be seen, but it seems very likely that we haven't seen the last of the two.]]
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The plot involve [[spoiler:JJ]] returning to the farm to find Ellie, only to discover her dead. On the plus side, though, he's able to extract her blood to use in a vaccine.
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Given that Abby told her dad that if it was her that was immune that she would want her dad to go through with the operation, it would make perfect sense for it to be revealed that she too is immune. Ellie sacrificing herself for the cure would be all too predictable and Naughty Dog definitely does not do predictable, so it would be much more fitting if Abby, still guilt-ridden over her actions, to sacrifice herself for the good of humanity and giving Ellie a chance to live a normal life.
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* Given that Abby told her dad that if it was her that was immune that she would want her dad to go through with the operation, it would make perfect sense for it to be revealed that she too is immune. Ellie sacrificing herself for the cure would be all too predictable and Naughty Dog definitely does not do predictable, so it would be much more fitting if Abby, still guilt-ridden over her actions, to sacrifice herself for the good of humanity and giving Ellie a chance to live a normal life.
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** Its possible that they'll also display some type of control over the mindless infected who will act as footsoldiers for the stronger more intelligent Infected.
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* As a [[spoiler: As a trans-man, Lev is the perfect person for this theme along with being a FishOutOfWater thanks to being a Seraphite/Scar now traveling through "the Old World" with Abby.]]
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** [[spoiler: One of the possible story lines could be him facing the ethical same choice like Joel killing the Fireflies at the oend of ''I'' and [[spoiler: Ellie breaking the CycleOfRevenge at the end of ''II''.]]
** [[spoiler: One of the possible story lines could be him facing the ethical same choice like Joel killing the Fireflies at the oend of ''I'' and [[spoiler: Ellie breaking the CycleOfRevenge at the end of ''II''.]]
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* As a [[spoiler: As a trans-man, Lev is the perfect person for this theme along with being a FishOutOfWater thanks to being a Seraphite/Scar now traveling through "the Old World" with Abby.]]
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“As A black man”... I know you’ve heard that before from actual racists but I am black. Tweaked description. Also not all blacks are African American, there are blacks in japan, Britain and of course African countries.
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[[WMG: The dlc will have Joel as the main protagonist]]
It will start off with Joel and Tess before the events of the original game while halfway through a time skip will happen giving us Joel’s POV during the flashback sequences of the second game with some new events added.
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* This seems likely to me. [[spoiler: Dina likely went back to Jackson, and once Ellie explains what happened with Abby and how she was able to let go, they have a good chance at reconciling.]]
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* This seems likely to me. [[spoiler: Dina likely went back to Jackson, and once Ellie explains what happened with Abby and how she was able to let go, they have a good chance at reconciling. Especially since if you look in the art room at the farm house when you return at the end, you'll notice that unlike the other rooms that one is mostly intact save for Ellie's portrait of Dina on the easel which is missing. That tells you that Dina still has feelings for Ellie and has not completely given up on her yet.]]
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[[WMG: Abby will turn out to also be immune and will sacrifice herself for the cure]]
Given that Abby told her dad that if it was her that was immune that she would want her dad to go through with the operation, it would make perfect sense for it to be revealed that she too is immune. Ellie sacrificing herself for the cure would be all too predictable and Naughty Dog definitely does not do predictable, so it would be much more fitting if Abby, still guilt-ridden over her actions, to sacrifice herself for the good of humanity and giving Ellie a chance to live a normal life.
Given that Abby told her dad that if it was her that was immune that she would want her dad to go through with the operation, it would make perfect sense for it to be revealed that she too is immune. Ellie sacrificing herself for the cure would be all too predictable and Naughty Dog definitely does not do predictable, so it would be much more fitting if Abby, still guilt-ridden over her actions, to sacrifice herself for the good of humanity and giving Ellie a chance to live a normal life.
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Like the past couple of major [=NaughtyDog=] releases, this game will also have a DLC released in a future date. The additional content will mainly detail how Abby and Lev arrive on the Island where the Fireflies are possibly rebuilding, only to discover dangers they must overcome. At the same time, Ellie's fate will be shown either during the campaign or at the end setting up how the story for the final game will possibly go. One give away is the title screen showing the Island after beating the game.
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Like the past couple of major [=NaughtyDog=] releases, this game will also have a DLC released in a future date. The additional content will mainly detail how Abby and Lev arrive on the Island where the Fireflies are possibly rebuilding, only to discover dangers they must overcome. At the same time, Ellie's fate will be shown either during the campaign or at the end setting up how the story for the final game will possibly go. [[spoiler: One give away is the title screen showing the Island after beating the game. game.]]
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[[WMG: A later DLC release will be about Abby and Lev searching for the Fireflies in Santa Barbara]]
Like the past couple of major [=NaughtyDog=] releases, this game will also have a DLC released in a future date. The additional content will mainly detail how Abby and Lev arrive on the Island where the Fireflies are possibly rebuilding, only to discover dangers they must overcome. At the same time, Ellie's fate will be shown either during the campaign or at the end setting up how the story for the final game will possibly go. One give away is the title screen showing the Island after beating the game.
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[[WMG: The California Fireflies don't exist.]]
While searching for the Fireflies in Santa Barbara, Abby comes across a working radio and gets into contact with someone. However, the person she talks to never actually says anything that verifies they're actually Fireflies, as it's Abby divulging all of the crucial information in the conversation. She's the one who tells them first that she's a Firefly and is looking for them, and more crucially, she tells them her exact location. In addition, the person on the other end doesn't warn her about the presence of the Rattlers, who appear to have been active in the area for quite a while. Meanwhile, the Rattlers are already waiting to ambush Abby and Lev the moment they leave the outpost, suggesting that the rumors of the Fireflies regrouping in Santa Barbara is simply a honey trap set up by the Rattlers to lure in victims they can capture.
While searching for the Fireflies in Santa Barbara, Abby comes across a working radio and gets into contact with someone. However, the person she talks to never actually says anything that verifies they're actually Fireflies, as it's Abby divulging all of the crucial information in the conversation. She's the one who tells them first that she's a Firefly and is looking for them, and more crucially, she tells them her exact location. In addition, the person on the other end doesn't warn her about the presence of the Rattlers, who appear to have been active in the area for quite a while. Meanwhile, the Rattlers are already waiting to ambush Abby and Lev the moment they leave the outpost, suggesting that the rumors of the Fireflies regrouping in Santa Barbara is simply a honey trap set up by the Rattlers to lure in victims they can capture.
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Ellie was devastated when she learned the truth from Joel about what actually happened in Salt Lake City. The thought of her immunity having the potential to cure the Cordyceps outbreak is likely heavy on her mind and if ''Part III'' serves as the series' GrandFinale, it's likely its plot will conclude with her entering another hospital, this time undergoing the surgery that will lead to the outbreak's cure.
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[[spoiler:A shot of Catalina Island is shown in the opening screen after beating the game, meaning Abby and Lev were able to get there after escaping Santa Barbara. The Fireflies are regrouping and rebuilding, and it is very likely they will send Abby and Lev to conduct operations on the mainland. What their mission is and what their interactions with established and new characters will be like are yet to be seen, but it seems very likely that we haven't seen the last of the two.]]
[[spoiler:A shot of Catalina Island is shown in the opening screen after beating the game, meaning Abby and Lev were able to get there after escaping Santa Barbara. The Fireflies are regrouping and rebuilding, and it is very likely they will send Abby and Lev to conduct operations on the mainland. What their mission is and what their interactions with established and new characters will be like are yet to be seen, but it seems very likely that we haven't seen the last of the two.]]
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[[WMG: The protagonist of the next game will be [[spoiler:Dina's son JJ]]]]
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[[WMG: The protagonist ''Part III'' will focus on Ellie's redemption]]
As ''Part II'' focused on her fall from grace, Ellie will redeem herself through either one of thenext game two above WMGs, depending on how the developers want to end things for Ellie.
[[WMG: Ellie's surname, be it Williams or not, will be[[spoiler:Dina's son JJ]]]]
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[[WMG: Ellie's surname, be it Williams or not, will be
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** Personally, I find it unlikely Naughty Dog would kill off Ellie so unceremoniously, [[spoiler:considering the backlash over Joel's death. And while the ending is anything but uplifting, Ellie is shown walking off rather than breaking down into tears]]. But it's gritty and emotional.
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** Personally, I find it unlikely Naughty Dog would kill off Ellie so unceremoniously, [[spoiler:considering the backlash over Joel's death. And while the ending is anything but uplifting, Ellie is shown walking off rather than breaking down into tears]]. tears, which implies she'll soldier on]]. But it's gritty gritty, cruel and emotional.
emotional, which is the direction TLOU is taking.
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[[WMG: Should [[spoiler:Abby]] return, Ellie will end up killing [[spoiler:her]]]]
There's still [[spoiler:plenty of bad blood between the two, and Abby's been a rather divisive character among the fanbase]].
There's still [[spoiler:plenty of bad blood between the two, and Abby's been a rather divisive character among the fanbase]].
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[[WMG: [[spoiler:Dina's son JJ]] will be the protagonist of the next game]]
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[[WMG: ''Part III'' will reveal Ellie [[DrivenToSuicide committed suicide]] [[Despair Event Horizon in despair]].]]
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** Personally, I find it unlikely Naughty Dog would kill off Ellie so unceremoniously, [[spoiler:considering the backlash over Joel's death. And while the ending is anything but uplifting, Ellie is shown walking off rather than breaking down into tears]]. But it's
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it's gritty and emotional.
