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* I'm [[Tropers/SlvstrChung slvstrChung]], and I approve this message. After posting my review, I got to thinking about how the Cthaeh can be woven into the ongoing tapestry of Kvothe's life. And, in rereading, I noticed that it segues over to Denna voluntarily. If what Bast says of the Cthaeh is true, it will deliberately try to hit Kvothe's {{Berserk Button}}s, whether Kvothe is ''aware'' they are Berserk Buttons or not. It mentions that Cinder did terrible things to Kvothe's mother, so evidently the forces of ChaoticEvil are best served by there being a blood feud there. And it mentions Denna's patron, so...
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* I'm [[Tropers/SlvstrChung slvstrChung]], and I approve this message. After posting my review, I got to thinking about how the Cthaeh can be woven into the ongoing tapestry of Kvothe's life. And, in rereading, I noticed that it segues over to Denna voluntarily. If what Bast says of the Cthaeh is true, it will deliberately try to hit Kvothe's {{Berserk Button}}s, whether Kvothe is ''aware'' they are Berserk Buttons or not. It mentions that Cinder did terrible things to Kvothe's mother, so evidently the forces of ChaoticEvil evil are best served by there being a blood feud there. And it mentions Denna's patron, so...
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* There's Fae blood through the entire race of the Edema Ruh. He's always being identified as Ruh by his eyes, so there must be something odd about them that's consistent with the rest of the Family. What's the most noticeable feature of Kvothe's eyes (that he shares with Bast)? [[MoodRingEyes Yup.]] Maybe it's stronger in his immediate family.
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* There's Fae blood through the entire race of the Edema Ruh. He's always being identified as Ruh by his eyes, so there must be something odd about them that's consistent with the rest of the Family. What's the most noticeable feature of Kvothe's eyes (that he shares with Bast)? [[MoodRingEyes Yup.]] Yup. Maybe it's stronger in his immediate family.
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The hermit mentions that he found his cave while he was chasing the wind, and it sounds just like Jax chasing the moon. Perhaps the hermit's story was similar to Jax's: he was once an earthly man who was chasing the wind, he met another old Listener at the cave, but made a different choice and agreed to stay and learn, eventually abandoning his earthly desires and becoming a new hermit.
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The hermit mentions that he found his cave while he was chasing the wind, and it sounds just like Jax chasing the moon.Moon. Perhaps the hermit's story was similar to Jax's: he was once an earthly man who was chasing the wind, he met another old Listener at the cave, but made a different choice and agreed to stay and learn, eventually abandoning his earthly desires and becoming a new hermit.
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The hermit mentions that he found the place while he was chasing the wind, and it sounds just like Jax chasing the moon. Perhaps the hermit's story was similar to Jax's: he was once an earthly man who was chasing the wind, he met another old Listener at the cave, but made a different choice and agreed to stay and learn, eventually abandoning his earthly desires and becoming a new hermit.
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The hermit mentions that he found the place his cave while he was chasing the wind, and it sounds just like Jax chasing the moon. Perhaps the hermit's story was similar to Jax's: he was once an earthly man who was chasing the wind, he met another old Listener at the cave, but made a different choice and agreed to stay and learn, eventually abandoning his earthly desires and becoming a new hermit.
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[[WMG: The old hermit wanted Jax to become like him]]
The old hermit invited Jax to stay with him for a couple of years to learn the art of Listening to help him fetch the Moon, and after Jax refused, asked if he would consider staying for just a month or two. Had Jax stayed for even one month and learned even a bit of Listening, it would have completely changed his outlook on life: he would have renounced his desire to capture the Moon, and instead desired to Listen to it while it's in the sky. He would have remained with the Hermit forever as his apprentice and eventually superseded him.
The hermit mentions that he found the place while he was chasing the wind, and it sounds just like Jax chasing the moon. Perhaps the hermit's story was similar to Jax's: he was once an earthly man who was chasing the wind, he met another old Listener at the cave, but made a different choice and agreed to stay and learn, eventually abandoning his earthly desires and becoming a new hermit.
The old hermit invited Jax to stay with him for a couple of years to learn the art of Listening to help him fetch the Moon, and after Jax refused, asked if he would consider staying for just a month or two. Had Jax stayed for even one month and learned even a bit of Listening, it would have completely changed his outlook on life: he would have renounced his desire to capture the Moon, and instead desired to Listen to it while it's in the sky. He would have remained with the Hermit forever as his apprentice and eventually superseded him.
The hermit mentions that he found the place while he was chasing the wind, and it sounds just like Jax chasing the moon. Perhaps the hermit's story was similar to Jax's: he was once an earthly man who was chasing the wind, he met another old Listener at the cave, but made a different choice and agreed to stay and learn, eventually abandoning his earthly desires and becoming a new hermit.
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[[WMG: The Loeclos Box contains the One Ring.]]
Maer Alveron believes the box contains something ''precious''. (Kvothe disagrees.)
Maer Alveron believes the box contains something ''precious''. (Kvothe disagrees.)
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Maer Alveron believes the box contains something ''precious''. (Kvothe disagrees.)
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** One hitch to that, Lanre spoke to Cthaeh before he made Selitos watch the destruction of the city before Selitos cursed Lanre to be Haliax.
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* A further theory: We are told Denna's patron beats her. Assuming that the Cthaeh is telling the truth and not lying outright, it could mean "beating" as in TrainingFromHell. Perhaps Denna is being trained by the Amyr, and the Cthaeh was putting it in the worst possible light. Which would be just like it.
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When recollecting the events of his stay with Ferulean, Kvothe compared her with Elodin quite frequently. The sound of their voices instil the same effect on people. They both speak in a similar nonchalant manner, and says things that makes little sense. In fact, Kvote described Ferulean as a "quieter, more attractive version of Elodin". Also, despite his supposed insanity, Elodin is said to have "perfectly sane eyes", and his strange quirks may actually be a form of BlueAndOrangeMorality rather than outright craziness.
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When recollecting the events of his stay with Ferulean, Kvothe compared her the faerie with Elodin quite frequently. The sound of their voices instil the same effect on people. They both speak in a similar nonchalant manner, and says things that makes little sense. In fact, Kvote described Ferulean as a "quieter, more attractive version of Elodin". Also, despite his supposed insanity, Elodin is said to have "perfectly sane eyes", and his strange quirks may actually be a form of BlueAndOrangeMorality rather than outright craziness.
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Badass Grandpa cleaning
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** Also, just a reminder that Kvothe is not old. We perceive him as a BadassGrandpa because he's wise and lived a very busy life, but it says straight out in the first chapter that he's still in his twenties(!).
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** Also, just a reminder that Kvothe is not old. We perceive him as a BadassGrandpa grandpa because he's wise and lived a very busy life, but it says straight out in the first chapter that he's still in his twenties(!).
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[[WMG: There will be no third book]]
Either Rothfuss became bored with the series, or overestimated his ChekhovsArmoury skills, and when it became clear he cannot live up to expectations, he quietly abandoned all plans, moving on to other goals.
Either Rothfuss became bored with the series, or overestimated his ChekhovsArmoury skills, and when it became clear he cannot live up to expectations, he quietly abandoned all plans, moving on to other goals.
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[[WMG: Kvothe is a Singer]]
The Chandrian mention the Singers as an enemy that Haliax is protecting them against, but we don't get a good idea of what a Singer is. However, we do know that Kvothe has a talent (or a knack maybe?) for naming things, and that when he does this naming, it tends to be described in a musical way (e.g. Felurian's name was described as four notes). What if the Singers are those who innately can tap into the musical nature of the world and sing out names, even names of things they have no right to know. You can tie this in to any number of ways Kvothe is skilled at naming.
The Chandrian mention the Singers as an enemy that Haliax is protecting them against, but we don't get a good idea of what a Singer is. However, we do know that Kvothe has a talent (or a knack maybe?) for naming things, and that when he does this naming, it tends to be described in a musical way (e.g. Felurian's name was described as four notes). What if the Singers are those who innately can tap into the musical nature of the world and sing out names, even names of things they have no right to know. You can tie this in to any number of ways Kvothe is skilled at naming.
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[[WMG: The Cthaeh's plan is to manipulate the Sidhe into committing genocide]]
As we know from Bast, the Sidhe will immediately kill any being that has been close enough to the Cthaeh to be influenced, and any beings it may have interacted with before they got there. As a matter of fact, he specifically mentions that if they knew of the story being told, they would kill everyone in the room and destroy it. That is exactly what the Cthaeh wants. The Sidhe may not be aware now, but Chronicler will almost definitely circulate it. Depending on the degree to which the Sidhe monitor the mortal world, they will likely only become aware of Kvothe's interaction with the Cthaeh once it has become public knowledge. This part of the story may even reach the point of entering the popular legends of Kvothe before they become aware, particularly since Chronicler, bound to give Kvothe's exact testimony, may not include the information he received in the frame story about the Cthaeh's malevolent omniscience, especially since he himself is skeptical of it. If this is the case, the Sidhe will be unable to reliably distinguish who has been influenced by the Cthaeh and, even if they knew for sure who had and who hadn't, would be unable to hide the removal of those who had been. Thus, they will be forced to wipe out all or nearly all of the human world causing either a near complete genocide of humanity or an impossibly destructive war between humanity and the Sidhe with potentially more devastating consequences.
As we know from Bast, the Sidhe will immediately kill any being that has been close enough to the Cthaeh to be influenced, and any beings it may have interacted with before they got there. As a matter of fact, he specifically mentions that if they knew of the story being told, they would kill everyone in the room and destroy it. That is exactly what the Cthaeh wants. The Sidhe may not be aware now, but Chronicler will almost definitely circulate it. Depending on the degree to which the Sidhe monitor the mortal world, they will likely only become aware of Kvothe's interaction with the Cthaeh once it has become public knowledge. This part of the story may even reach the point of entering the popular legends of Kvothe before they become aware, particularly since Chronicler, bound to give Kvothe's exact testimony, may not include the information he received in the frame story about the Cthaeh's malevolent omniscience, especially since he himself is skeptical of it. If this is the case, the Sidhe will be unable to reliably distinguish who has been influenced by the Cthaeh and, even if they knew for sure who had and who hadn't, would be unable to hide the removal of those who had been. Thus, they will be forced to wipe out all or nearly all of the human world causing either a near complete genocide of humanity or an impossibly destructive war between humanity and the Sidhe with potentially more devastating consequences.
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** I'd say it's more likely that rather than being part Fae being a powerful Namer comes with certain side effects that gradually make one more like the Fae, because the "Sleeping Mind" gradually becomes more awake in Namers, while the Fae are more awake by default, which is why they have their strange magics. Or something like that.
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* From Skarpi's story it almost seemed like Tehlu was KnightTemplar [[OurAngelsAreDifferent Angel]] instead of a god, who came to be worshipped because of his actions. Given what we learn in TheWiseMansFear about [[AGodAmI the creation of fairy]] and [[AndManGrewProud The Creation War]], both Skarpi and Tehlu could be [[AngelUnaware one of the ancient namers]] who set out to destroy the Chandrian. Or he could be with the Amyr, but Tehlu was still likely one of the ancient Namers.
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* From Skarpi's story it almost seemed like Tehlu was KnightTemplar [[OurAngelsAreDifferent Angel]] instead of a god, who came to be worshipped because of his actions. Given what we learn in TheWiseMansFear ''Literature/TheWiseMansFear'' about [[AGodAmI the creation of fairy]] and [[AndManGrewProud The Creation War]], both Skarpi and Tehlu could be [[AngelUnaware one of the ancient namers]] who set out to destroy the Chandrian. Or he could be with the Amyr, but Tehlu was still likely one of the ancient Namers.
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** Wise Man's Fear shows us that Tehlu and the others were created to dispense justice after the fact, and calling their names is what brings them to do so. People came to misunderstand that and started worshiping Tehlu as a god, though it still has the effect of calling him by name. We see this in practice when a terrified Martin starts praying to Tehlu, which is when Cinder gets worried and flees.
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* There's Fae blood through the entire race of the Edema Ruh. He's always being identified as Ruh by his eyes, so there must be something odd about them that's consistent with the rest of the Family. What's the most noticeable feature of Kvothe's eyes (that he shares with Bast)? [[KaleidoscopeEyes Yup.]] Maybe it's stronger in his immediate family.
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* There's Fae blood through the entire race of the Edema Ruh. He's always being identified as Ruh by his eyes, so there must be something odd about them that's consistent with the rest of the Family. What's the most noticeable feature of Kvothe's eyes (that he shares with Bast)? [[KaleidoscopeEyes [[MoodRingEyes Yup.]] Maybe it's stronger in his immediate family.
